George Lucas Reveals Power Levels of Luke Vader Palpatine Obi-Wan

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  • čas přidán 13. 02. 2021
  • In Star Wars, midichilorians were the closest thing we had to power levels. Anakin, as a 9 year old, were over 20,000, more than master Yoda himself. The prequels were the first time we entered a measurable state of the force, now while midichlorians aren’t to be mistaken for one’s full on power levels, they are an abstraction of one’s potential should they train in the force. Now back in the 80’s when esb was being written, George Lucas actually had devised a power ranking system out of 10 for obi-wan, Luke, and the emperor.
    So as we can see, Luke Skywalker, is a level 2, Obi-Wan with all of his training from qui-gon, Yoda and more is only a 6. This means during the prequels, he was probably a 4, considering the last 20 years he didn’t learn all that much more when it came to his training. Unless, of course, George completely abolished this level system in his mind, and just went straight to the midichlorians. The interesting thing about obi-wan is that he had the poorest connection to the force of all jedi, he was an embarrassment. Both in canon and legends. In fact, in Canon, Qui-Gon in the novel master and apprentice, talks about how Obi-Wan is so far behind compared to where he was at the same age. Basically calling Obi-Wan useless. So for Obi-Wan to be as powerful as the Emperor now, really is a testament to how hard he practiced and trained. Of course, these power levels shouldn’t be as theorized and analyzed as I’m doing now, as they are outdated and clearly something George established for the originals and possibly abolished going beyond that to the prequels, but it is interesting to know. Does this mean that Yoda in the prequels was a level 6, and Obi-Wan was a level 4? Meaning Anakin was also a level 4 while being so much younger, putting in the effect of his many thousands of more midichlorians compared to the rest? This would have given anakin more of a potential to reach a higher level faster than others. Like giving Anakin a higher iq, which wouldn’t necessarily mean he’s smarter than his masters, unless he studied, in which case if he did, he would destroy all of them. So we could assume the rate at which anakin developed his abilities were maybe 2 to 3 times as fast as others who were more average or slightly above even.
    With Vader being a 4, this is indicative, I think, of his lowered power state that George always talked about after losing to obi-wan. George said that once he lost to obi-wan he’d never reach his full power, and be only 80% as powerful as the emperor, who was a level 6, about to become a level 10.
    The massive jump to level 10 from 6 meant that he was about to learn some crazy new ability in the short time span from episode 4 to 6. What he could learn, well it’s never discussed I don’t think, but I could rule out the ability to learn lightning, as originally, George wanted Luke to use lightning against Vader, as well as Vader to use lightning against obi-wan in their fight. I think the idea of the emperor getting ready to jump to an immortal power level of 10 and the heroes had to beat the clock so he didn’t get there would have been a bit too comical for me. I like the idea that Sidious always harnessed the power of a 10 and it wasn’t his power that needed to be matched, but the power of love that Vader showed for his son which beat Sidious once and for all. To show that you can change your ways no matter how evil you have become and the horrible things you’ve done, that it’s never too late to change, and in the end, the power of love triumphs over all evil, no matter the power, which in this case it did. Vader saved Luke in a sacrificial last effort and fulfilled the Jedi prophecy of bringing balance to the force.
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  • @StarWarsTheory
    @StarWarsTheory  Před 3 lety +409

    Using George's system...What do you think the power levels of other characters in the prequels, were?

  • @darthnbl
    @darthnbl Před 3 lety +765

    Obi-Wan leveled up from 6 to 6000 the moment he said Hello There

    • @td-1105
      @td-1105 Před 3 lety +15

      My obi-wan won’t level up when doing hello there emote pls help

    • @MikoArkamei
      @MikoArkamei Před 3 lety +5

      big facts

    • @alterscenewow3588
      @alterscenewow3588 Před 3 lety +5

      “General Kenobi!”

    • @alexeiharp7676
      @alexeiharp7676 Před 3 lety +15

      Gets up to 1,000 instantly from having the high ground

    • @darthnbl
      @darthnbl Před 3 lety

      @@alexeiharp7676 yes

  • @Packers4life1512
    @Packers4life1512 Před 3 lety +539

    Man youtube is getting real comfortable with these double unskippable ads

    • @ryansilva4863
      @ryansilva4863 Před 3 lety +9

      Yeah

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      @qsnazer2584 Před 3 lety +17

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    • @jake12.48
      @jake12.48 Před 3 lety +20

      I didn't know people didn't use add blockers

    • @Gamerz2Gamerz
      @Gamerz2Gamerz Před 3 lety +15

      @@jake12.48 well I can’t use an as blocker on my phone lol

    • @qsnazer2584
      @qsnazer2584 Před 3 lety +9

      @@jake12.48 im not a pc badass sorry buddy

  • @OreoForRuario
    @OreoForRuario Před 3 lety +424

    Valentine's Day and I'm watching videos on Star Wars power levels. This is why I'm single

    • @shantoreywilkins651
      @shantoreywilkins651 Před 3 lety +3

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    • @applepie443
      @applepie443 Před 3 lety +12

      Well, we are many here...
      Not me tho...married...5kids...

    • @hoklavatbey
      @hoklavatbey Před 3 lety +12

      You are doing the best thing you can do, believe me. Star Wars is a key, a kind of guide for many things in life. The thing is to find a partner who is also into SW as much as we do.

    • @jonathanjonsson3411
      @jonathanjonsson3411 Před 3 lety +8

      Do what you love

    • @Danny-xi2hb
      @Danny-xi2hb Před 3 lety +5

      im married and yet here i am

  • @Tech215Studios
    @Tech215Studios Před 3 lety +235

    I’m 37 and I always felt kinda ehhh about Star Wars, idk what happened but I fell in love with it just recently. I think the Mandalorian and this Channel really helped bring that out. These break downs are the best!

    • @GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs
      @GENGHISKHAN-hk3qs Před 3 lety +4

      I know right! Theory is the man.

    • @conor2878
      @conor2878 Před 3 lety +4

      Watch all the movies, original trilogy is best

    • @conor2878
      @conor2878 Před 3 lety +13

      @Dominic
      I like revenge of the sith out of the rest of the prequels, I also like attack of the clones but some scenes are boring and could easily be taken out of the movie imo

    • @conor2878
      @conor2878 Před 3 lety +2

      @3
      Ok

    • @conor2878
      @conor2878 Před 3 lety +3

      @Dominic
      Qui gon is my favourite jedi and if he lives the prequels would easily be a lot better for me, revenge of the sith is already quite good and I also don't like return of the jedi as much as the other ones in the OT, I just think some scenes like the ones with anakin and padme in episode 2 are just really awkward and unnecessary for the movie

  • @pinkgoergefloyd8340
    @pinkgoergefloyd8340 Před 3 lety +917

    Never though I would hear someone say “the emperor is a 10”
    Edit: I’m so sorry. My ignorance to Palpatine’s pure embodiment of sex was being clouded. He is a 10

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 Před 3 lety +506

    In the wise word of the Legendary Luke Skywalker "Talent without training is nothing"

    • @birdboy16
      @birdboy16 Před 3 lety +17

      If I ever get a job that involves teaching someone I’m gonna say that

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 Před 3 lety +3

      @@birdboy16 Can't blame you, the quote itself is very inspiring

    • @coachmikesfilmroom3111
      @coachmikesfilmroom3111 Před 3 lety +10

      That's not how I remember that line. It goes, " Talent without training is nothing....Rey!"

    • @thedistractedcanadian4355
      @thedistractedcanadian4355 Před 3 lety +4

      Would love for Luke to train me as a Jedi or maybe even anakin either would work🤷‍♂️

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 Před 3 lety +2

      @@thedistractedcanadian4355 Same or even Obi-Wan

  • @LukePearce911
    @LukePearce911 Před 3 lety +23

    “Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us.” That line from the Emperor in ROTS

  • @DiegoTheRebel
    @DiegoTheRebel Před 3 lety +123

    I like that Obi-Wan isn't the strongest in the Force but has his hard work, experience, and his wit to make him the better warrior than Anakin on Mustafar. I think they both knew Anakin was stronger in the Force, but Anakin had a tendency to be overconfident and Obi-Wan knew that. Obi-Wan had experience, clarity of thought, and knew Anakin better than Anakin knew himself. The fact Obi-Wan wins against someone much more powerful than himself, that he theoretically should have lost against, makes me like Obi-Wan that much more.

    • @Phoenix-pm2qr
      @Phoenix-pm2qr Před 3 lety +9

      Correct. While Obi is not super powerful, he is a very smart fighter, which is why PL alone do not determine a right. However, saying he was more powerful than Palp and Vader is just ridiculous

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe Před 2 lety +2

      Indeed.

    • @lonebanana6753
      @lonebanana6753 Před 2 lety +3

      overconfidence and arrogance is often anakins downfall. he overestimated his abilities and lost his arm to Dooku, and then later gets completely owned by Obi wan

    • @illsubtoeveryonethatsubsto4606
      @illsubtoeveryonethatsubsto4606 Před rokem +1

      @@Phoenix-pm2qr POV:You think Anakin isn't a genius

    • @T1Top
      @T1Top Před rokem +2

      BUT Anakin literally won against him on Mustafar, as you said his emotions got in his way, no one can defeat Anakin skywalker the only person that can defeat him is himself

  • @EntropiReality
    @EntropiReality Před 3 lety +117

    Obi-wan on level ground: Power level 6
    Obi-wan on HIGH GROUND: UNLIMITED POWAAAAAH

    • @AURON2401
      @AURON2401 Před 3 lety +4

      And when you strike him down, he shall become more powerful than you would ever be able to possibly imagine.

  • @naetoru9838
    @naetoru9838 Před 3 lety +281

    So Theory thinks that Anakin was a "4" as a nine year old...
    Ladies and gentlemen... we got him! *slams down door*

    • @IlIeven
      @IlIeven Před 3 lety +22

      i cant defend you on this one theory

    • @RoxDZoro
      @RoxDZoro Před 3 lety +2

      If luke was a 2 after his training with yoda this has double meaning lol (yes I understand the joke ) lol

    • @RoxDZoro
      @RoxDZoro Před 3 lety +5

      I would be far more concerned if he said he was a 10

    • @refugeehugsforfree4151
      @refugeehugsforfree4151 Před 3 lety

      CANCEL THEORY AHHHHHHH!

    • @GMonkey66
      @GMonkey66 Před 3 lety

      Oh no

  • @lpcaiser
    @lpcaiser Před 3 lety +42

    "It's ... it's over 9,000!"

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin Před 3 lety +225

    Luke was definitely a 10 in Legends. In the Mandalorian, I would say he's well on his way.

    • @sonofthechosenone4335
      @sonofthechosenone4335 Před 3 lety +13

      Facts

    • @gothamgoon4237
      @gothamgoon4237 Před 3 lety +11

      I would say a 6 there. It is 5 years after ROTJ but years before he set up his school so I'm guessing 6 in Mandalorian.

    • @xrstevenson
      @xrstevenson Před 3 lety +22

      @@gothamgoon4237 no, there's a major gap in skill and power when it comes to RotJ Luke and Mandalorian Luke

    • @82dorrin
      @82dorrin Před 3 lety +9

      @@xrstevenson Probably a 6 in Mandalorian. On par with Palpatine.

    • @koklyo8201
      @koklyo8201 Před 3 lety +5

      I think anikin was a 10 and darth Vader was 6 and Luke was a 4

  • @bevindennett
    @bevindennett Před 3 lety +287

    IT'S UNFAIR

    • @yrgrobotics7474
      @yrgrobotics7474 Před 3 lety +17

      IT’S TREASON

    • @GH1LLIE
      @GH1LLIE Před 3 lety +12

      It’s outrageous

    • @whytho1534
      @whytho1534 Před 3 lety +4

      How can you __________ (insert whatever you want)

    • @yrgrobotics7474
      @yrgrobotics7474 Před 3 lety +13

      @@whytho1534 How can you be a level four and beat obi wan

    • @birdboy16
      @birdboy16 Před 3 lety +4

      @@whytho1534 eat that hot dog without ketchup?

  • @leonchristou1702
    @leonchristou1702 Před 3 lety +39

    I don’t think you’re counting Vader’s rage. That shit would make him so much more powerful than the emperor

    • @funanakin5168
      @funanakin5168 Před 3 lety +5

      I agree.

    • @eldritch6234
      @eldritch6234 Před 3 lety +2

      You arent counting the emperors hate.

    • @jannijamn7054
      @jannijamn7054 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 Před 3 lety

      You’re forgetting that rage failed him as Anakin against a weaker Obi-Wan back in RotS.
      The Emperor had basically written Vader off after Luke defeated him. And years of hiding his true emotions from the Emperor, now blind with his own hate and anger, helped Anakin to finally overthrow and cast down his (Vader’s) Master.

    • @leonchristou1702
      @leonchristou1702 Před 3 lety +4

      @@eds1942 you’re forgetting a Anakin and Vader are two different people, personality at least anyway.

  • @stokilo18
    @stokilo18 Před 3 lety +22

    Theory definitely practices his Palpatine voice during his free time. That "Now young Skywalker... You will die..." was way too good lmao

  • @elimercado4208
    @elimercado4208 Před 3 lety +50

    After a long hard week in school of tests and assessments it’s good to watch your videos, thanks

  • @brad4492
    @brad4492 Před 3 lety +1118

    Who else will spend Valentine’s Day watching Star Wars spiraling into a state of depression? 👆🏻

    • @quinnhilligoss9498
      @quinnhilligoss9498 Před 3 lety +27

      I will be spending it doing homework

    • @DLR24
      @DLR24 Před 3 lety +17

      Imma force my gf to watch it with me for my Valentine’s Day present

    • @leme3082
      @leme3082 Před 3 lety +13

      Nope f'it. I'll watch youtube stuff but I'm done with Disney star Wars.

    • @tatters6623
      @tatters6623 Před 3 lety +1

      Already watched the OT so far hahahaha

    • @yefeaoi5521
      @yefeaoi5521 Před 3 lety +1

      My birthday bro

  • @jorgelizaso978
    @jorgelizaso978 Před 3 lety +137

    Then Disney came and gave Rey a 20 out of 10 they first day she knew that the force exists.
    - Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Gender Politics.

    • @DIGtotheIT
      @DIGtotheIT Před 3 lety +1

      I mean she did defeat palpatine. That makes her 10+ at the minimum

    • @thegoat4238
      @thegoat4238 Před 3 lety +9

      @Mryeast 5999 V2 I'd say the only person who would really be able to beat palpatine would be grandmaster luke

    • @timmm2214
      @timmm2214 Před 3 lety +4

      @@thegoat4238 no I'd say mace, and yoda could

    • @parkercrossland410
      @parkercrossland410 Před 3 lety +2

      @Mryeast 5999 V2 “if Darth Vader wasn’t retarded”😂

    • @payjay4386
      @payjay4386 Před 3 lety +3

      @@timmm2214 youd say mace could? He almost did if it werent for Anakin mot having any common sense

  • @starkodinson9757
    @starkodinson9757 Před 3 lety

    I make it to the end of all your videos. Iv always loved Star Wars but I just recently in the last few months started going down this Star Wars lore rabbit hole and your channel is my number one source of info.

  • @jerichamesclammay3107
    @jerichamesclammay3107 Před 3 lety +219

    Padme's a 10
    Leia's an 8
    Rey's a 1

  • @RonaldMcfungletoe
    @RonaldMcfungletoe Před 3 lety +138

    Obi wan: hard work his everything
    Anakin: uh, uh

    • @RandomComicEnjoyer
      @RandomComicEnjoyer Před 3 lety +18

      i mean anakin did work hard tho

    • @abbaskazmi2558
      @abbaskazmi2558 Před 3 lety +2

      @@RandomComicEnjoyer Not as hard as Obi-Wan.

    • @sonofthechosenone4335
      @sonofthechosenone4335 Před 3 lety +10

      @@abbaskazmi2558 Obviously but he still worked really hard

    • @abbaskazmi2558
      @abbaskazmi2558 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sonofthechosenone4335 Anikain = Robby's pure talent for Karate. Obi-Wan = Demetri who had to take it slow.

    • @zilari3662
      @zilari3662 Před 3 lety

      @Amarthya Gupta Rey.... the clone daughter granddaughter with the forgotten memories of using the force of clone (grand)daddy Sidious......

  • @StannisHarlock
    @StannisHarlock Před 3 lety +17

    George is a bit funny with power leveling.
    During the Episode 3 director commentary, he said something like Obi Wan was an 8 and Anakin was a 9.

    • @thewarner2139
      @thewarner2139 Před 3 lety +6

      That was Nick Gillard and he was referencing their prowess as lightsaber duelists. In RotS, Anakin was closing in on Yoda, Mace and Palpatine's level as a fighter, but he still lacked the experience and emotional control, which is why he ended up losing to Obi-Wan; who was one rank lower.

    • @illsubtoeveryonethatsubsto4606
      @illsubtoeveryonethatsubsto4606 Před rokem

      @@thewarner2139 yea,not iq,or power,or skill,just EMOTIONAL CONTROL

  • @19captainmorgan96
    @19captainmorgan96 Před 3 lety +15

    That last bit about Starkiller being a representation for Luke's powers blew my mind. Starkiller was CRAZY strong. I wish we got different sequels 🙁

    • @alexmason2659
      @alexmason2659 Před rokem

      Well Legends Luke was far more powerful then that of Starkiller

    • @ClipsAndTracks
      @ClipsAndTracks Před rokem

      @@alexmason2659 yeah bro could replace black holes

    • @Crimsrn
      @Crimsrn Před rokem +1

      @@ClipsAndTracks well that's just stupid

  • @EntropiReality
    @EntropiReality Před 3 lety +44

    Palpatine gets a hidden boost to power level 10 when he's fighting in the Senate

  • @danjordan1
    @danjordan1 Před 3 lety +143

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

    • @ForeverRonnyx
      @ForeverRonnyx Před 3 lety +14

      ITS UNFAIR

    • @texaszubes3650
      @texaszubes3650 Před 3 lety +3

      This is unfair

    • @NeonVictor
      @NeonVictor Před 3 lety

      @@ForeverRonnyx Thanks for telling me that my bad

    • @umya9971
      @umya9971 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ForeverRonnyx Take a seat, young Skywalker.

    • @jor1456
      @jor1456 Před 3 lety +2

      @@umya9971 sorry, my Master

  • @WedgeOfSpite
    @WedgeOfSpite Před 3 lety +170

    Also, according to George, Luke was supposed to be the strongest Force user, attaining the power Anakin could have had, and thus more powerful at his peak, than Sidious at his peak. Which is why I scoff at those who say Luke is OP in Legends, when that's just what he was supposed to be. Not the lame wuss who got beaten by Rey, who had ZERO training, and who later died from a Force holo.
    Judas priest I hate the ST films.

    • @countryman032
      @countryman032 Před 3 lety +12

      I don't like TLJ either but Luke didn't lose to Rey. He was in control and backed down to deflate the situation. He tagged her with the staff quite easily. Luke was fearful of Rey's mental state and where that could lead her, not of Rey being a direct danger to him.

    • @WedgeOfSpite
      @WedgeOfSpite Před 3 lety +6

      @@countryman032 She surprised him, and knocked him down, because he's such a loser in the Force by that point.

    • @dialga4688
      @dialga4688 Před 3 lety +4

      Do not invoke Judas Priest's name in vain

    • @dragonstone9270
      @dragonstone9270 Před 3 lety +2

      Why does everyone assume that he Died? From what I remember he managed to sit up after he collapsed then he simply disappeared with a smile on his face after watching the sunset which doesn't necessarily mean that he died, he could have simply chosen to merge himself with the force.

    • @dragonstone9270
      @dragonstone9270 Před 3 lety +4

      @@WedgeOfSpite He was plenty powerful enough to play with Kylo Ren at the end and made him look like a complete tool where as Rey could barely beat Kylo in every encounter. the whole plot was absolute Crap. Bye the way Luke did not fall when Rey was attacking him he cushioned himself using the force if you look carefully. Lukes mindset was not that of a person looking to win a fight with a Rookie he was simply disinterested up until the very end.

  • @pimpsalutegeneral17typeawa20

    Of course we made it to the end. Ur the goat, gotta watch every second of every video

  • @thekingofthefat6424
    @thekingofthefat6424 Před 3 lety +123

    with all the shit that's going on now it's nice to sit back and watch a star wars theory video.

    • @luke_vk
      @luke_vk Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah

    • @Kyle-xw2xr
      @Kyle-xw2xr Před 3 lety +6

      Gina carano?

    • @Brodie0298
      @Brodie0298 Před 3 lety +1

      what’s going on bro? you all good?

    • @thekingofthefat6424
      @thekingofthefat6424 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Brodie0298 well you know the the whole gina corano thing like I'm so conflicted like what she said was terrible but at the same time I loved her character in the mandalorian and it's just I don't know how to feel like whenever there is controversy in the star wars fandom i look to him for what he thinks and so far he hasn't said anything about the incident

    • @Brodie0298
      @Brodie0298 Před 3 lety

      @@thekingofthefat6424 oh yeah i heard about that

  • @ElectricProductions12
    @ElectricProductions12 Před 3 lety +44

    Hey man, can you do more videos on Darth Plagueis? I’m reading the Darth Plagueis novel and it’s amazing. I’ve watched all your videos on him.... I want more 😂 Also a few Qui Gon vids would be nice, love your channel man :D

    • @noordeenaltammimi6416
      @noordeenaltammimi6416 Před 3 lety +20

      How did you read it i thought that its a story the jedi wouldnt tell you?

    • @darthnbl
      @darthnbl Před 3 lety +12

      @@noordeenaltammimi6416 😳 this person is smart at a whole new degree

    • @StarWarsTheory
      @StarWarsTheory  Před 3 lety +22

      Sure man 😊

    • @ElectricProductions12
      @ElectricProductions12 Před 3 lety +6

      @@StarWarsTheory Thank you so much bro, I can’t believe my favourite CZcamsr responded, thanks for taking the suggestions 😊

  • @bradleydorton1026
    @bradleydorton1026 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the content brother, keep pushing forward!

  • @charlescross3428
    @charlescross3428 Před 3 lety

    I made it to the end of it, your videos calm me down and help me distress after a long day, so thank you!

  • @beyedoc
    @beyedoc Před 3 lety +42

    The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite Star Wars movie

  • @acegabrielcruz3687
    @acegabrielcruz3687 Před 3 lety +21

    If Anakin killed Obi Wan in revenge of the Sith then He would have been Level 20 by the time of the Originals

    • @stormbringer2840
      @stormbringer2840 Před rokem

      Actually since he has the ouble of potential of palpatine and palpatine was a 6 on his way to become a 10 in the OT , I guess anakin would be a 12 on his way to become a 20 ?

  • @KosMik_Skul
    @KosMik_Skul Před 3 lety +1

    Oh hell yeah I me it all the way to the end of the video. This is going in my Star Wars favorites playlist (I have several SW playlists lol)
    I love the behind the scenes writers workshop talk in the beginning first half n I love your artistic emotional perspective n intpretation of this classic story. I'm a romantic n humanist at heart so I'm a sucker for this stuff.
    Great video man!

  • @mrwibbles235
    @mrwibbles235 Před 3 lety

    Made it to the end, great vid!

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 Před 3 lety +24

    Palpatine was so high on killing Luke heh

  • @LordSesshomaru86
    @LordSesshomaru86 Před 3 lety +10

    After all we've seen of the emperor in movies, shows, comics, to say Obi-wan is on the same level is just insane

    • @ethanedwards422
      @ethanedwards422 Před 3 lety

      @jaba literally everything. Kinda crazy to think that all of events in star wars was orchestred by papa palps. Besides, I think that not seeing Palpatines true power is more mysterious than seeing it.

    • @halloweenjack95
      @halloweenjack95 Před rokem +1

      Well he became a force ghost. In a fight he couldnt last a minute against palpatine tho.

  • @michaelloftis2349
    @michaelloftis2349 Před 3 lety

    Made it to the end. Loved every minute

  • @barryboi7029
    @barryboi7029 Před 3 lety +1

    Your videos are just great to watch when I want to chill and they remind me how much I love Star Wars

    • @davidordaz5251
      @davidordaz5251 Před 3 lety

      Same here love Star Wars with a passion 💕

    • @barryboi7029
      @barryboi7029 Před 3 lety

      A passion with a flame that will never burn out

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 Před 3 lety +8

    Speaking of Obi-Wan, Reath Silas is currently facing the same problem: fighting twice as hard as anyone else to become a Jedi, despite his weak connection to the Force

  • @dylanm6335
    @dylanm6335 Před 3 lety +6

    One of the things I love about Disney canon is that they gave Vader a huge buff

  • @BrodiacStudios
    @BrodiacStudios Před 3 lety

    Mad it to the end! Love all the work you do, I would love the opportunity to meet you one day.
    My dad was born in a extremely regressive family and at the age of 56 he finally watched all of Star Wars and loved it. Your videos sparked his interest and for that I thank you.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing all of this.

  • @johnathanflannagan2407
    @johnathanflannagan2407 Před 3 lety +5

    That’s a really cool thing about Starkiller and Luke. I never played those games, so to hear he would be of equal power to Luke is impressive.

    • @alexmason2659
      @alexmason2659 Před rokem

      That's actually kinda a false statement while starkiller was insanely powerful his midi-chlorian count was only 22,000 which is slightly over Palpatines Luke's was 40,000 being the same as Anakin's in legends Luke has done some insane shit from pushing and moving a black hole to Force projecting an entire Battleship fleet and becoming one with the force while still alive to defeating Force Demi Gods and powerful sith entities

  • @southergerman7085
    @southergerman7085 Před 3 lety +29

    If obi wan was a 4 during the prequels and dooku EASY clapped him and anakin and hold up against yoda... what the hell is dooku?

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, that’s confusing. Because Dooku dispatched Obi-wan pretty easily in both fights during the prequels. Anakin held up better, even though he got his forearm chopped off in the first fight.

    • @spencerhansen8374
      @spencerhansen8374 Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe that's why Obi-Wan took so long to power up: he never sacrificed his forearm. Everyone else who did seems to have made massive jumps in power afterwards. Dooku has trouble with Anakin later and Vader with Luke the second time around.

    • @robp5141
      @robp5141 Před 3 lety +2

      @@nate8604 obi wan is used as a plot device in both dooku fights, he’s so easily dispatched because the story needs Anakin on his own with dooku both times to progress anakins story. I put it down to bad writing and directing. Obi wan is much better than the dooku fights would have you believe. IMO.

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 Před 3 lety +1

      @@robp5141 maybe, Obi-Wan did beat Darth Maul a couple of times. At one point, he killed him the first go around, which I thought was bad writing since we first got introduced to him in Phantom Menace. And Obi-Wan did kill General Grievous. So he does have some unique kills under his belt.

    • @wealku1288
      @wealku1288 Před 3 lety +1

      I think this is not a representation of power level necessarily as it is styles. Dooku's blade skill is simply that much higher and is a great counter for Obi-wan's defensive saber arts. That's why Anakin holds up a bit better but yes it is still a good question of what Dooku would be considered, probably a 5 closer to the older obi-wan and emperor if I had to guess

  • @enchainedprometheus
    @enchainedprometheus Před 3 lety

    Great video and informative one thanks.
    (left the auto subtitle option on, from an other video and it is just funny how youtube algorithm subbed Obi-Wan as ob1... now I'm loughing without pause for almost 3 minutes )

  • @ThomasMuehler
    @ThomasMuehler Před 3 lety

    I made it to the end. Keep up the great work my dude. Love your content.

  • @jorgecarbajal8076
    @jorgecarbajal8076 Před rokem +3

    1:45 It’s really crazy to hear that George Lucas originally considered Obi-Wan and Palpatine to be on the same power level during The Empire Strikes Back. However, Obi-Wan did say he would become more powerful as a Force ghost.

  • @darthnbl
    @darthnbl Před 3 lety +16

    Me in RPG’s. OMG I leveled up. In a level 3 Jedi!

  • @zer0sinder
    @zer0sinder Před 3 lety

    I'm always here till the end of your videos baby! 🤣

  • @funkmoses9488
    @funkmoses9488 Před 3 lety

    I made it to the end, of course! Love this channel, just found you recently and super cool and fun stuff!

  • @LordPiddlington1912
    @LordPiddlington1912 Před 3 lety +6

    I remember in the behind the scenes of Revenge of the Sith, Nick Gillard was referring to a level system of relative power for each of the Jedi.
    This isn't verbatim, but I remember that Anakin was referred to as having gone up a level during the course of the film, from 8 to 9, which Nick described as basically being the dark side and that he had surpassed Obi-Wan in raw power.
    How this works for everyone else like, Mace Windu, Palpatine, Yoda etc. is a bit unclear, but we can assume that Palpatine is a 9 and Mace and Yoda are both 8s.

    • @elfather2045
      @elfather2045 Před 3 lety

      Yes, but I think he was referring more to the ability with the lightsaber rather than the power of force.

    • @robp5141
      @robp5141 Před 3 lety

      Yes I remember this too. Anakin and obi wan are level at 8, with Anakin moving up to a 9 just due to the influence of the dark side. Anakin wasn’t that much more powerful than obi wan in their fight, if any.

    • @thewarner2139
      @thewarner2139 Před 3 lety

      @@robp5141 Correct. The boost Anakin got was minimal and due to his inexperience with the dark side, he remained evenly matched with Obi-Wan.

  • @wolfgangfrostmourne5900
    @wolfgangfrostmourne5900 Před 3 lety +4

    I really wish they would turn the force unleashed into a movie. I love it!!!!

    • @maxwest6595
      @maxwest6595 Před 2 lety

      Not until Disney sell tge rights to a studio with a clue.

  • @killercobra17
    @killercobra17 Před 3 lety

    I made it to the end, great video. Hopefully we’ll get some more vs videos soon

  • @ryanhague9025
    @ryanhague9025 Před 3 lety

    Just want to say i absolutely love watching your videos. I've been binging some of your old videos again the past week or so. I also watched return of the jedi again yesterday. That and revenge of the sith are my two favourite films!!!

  • @sommojames
    @sommojames Před 3 lety +5

    When a power 4 meet a power 6: "your power are weak old man". Yes sure...

  • @darthwars237
    @darthwars237 Před 3 lety +7

    So basically:
    - young Obi was 4 (based on the Duel on Mustafar); old Obi is 6
    - Palpatine was 6 but on the way to 10
    - Yoda was also 6 in the Prequels (based on his duel vs Palpatine), and possibly achieved 10 later (based on his powers seen in The Last Jedi).
    - Anakin/Vader was 4 but was potentially 12 (based on George Lucas stating he was potentially twice as strong as Palpatine)
    - Luke was 2 when he faced Vader on Cloud City but arguably achieved 6 in Return of the Jedi (based on 1. the fact that he is able to hide his presence from Palpatine's perception 2. the fact that Palpatine said in Empire strikes back that young Skywalker could destroy the Sith 3. his badass hallway scene); he possibly achieved 10 later (based on never seen before Force projection through the galaxy in TLJ). But he was potentially 11 or 12 (based on George Lucas stating that with Luke, Palpatine would have had a more primo version of Anakin).
    What do you guys think?

  • @VelkasConsort93
    @VelkasConsort93 Před 3 lety

    I always make it to the end of every video Theory, thanks for all the hard work bro love your content

  • @FellVoice
    @FellVoice Před 9 měsíci +1

    Excellent video!

  • @ace360
    @ace360 Před 3 lety +6

    So Anakin's power level is over 9000!!!⚡🐉

  • @jerrysoof6140
    @jerrysoof6140 Před 3 lety +10

    Happy Valentine’s Day theory!

  • @stayhydrated-v1
    @stayhydrated-v1 Před 3 lety

    Fool, I always get to the end of your videos. Keep the good stuff up :)

  • @topdog5252
    @topdog5252 Před 3 lety

    You show true great understanding of Star Wars here. Soo cool

  • @darthnbl
    @darthnbl Před 3 lety +5

    Hey, do you know when the idea of Vader and palps being called sith came in?

  • @plasma1109
    @plasma1109 Před 3 lety +5

    I love the way Star Wars is and has turned out, but I would really love to see what Vader's power would be if he didn't lose to Obi Wan has Vader is my favourite character in Star wars (also Anakin but he is technically Vader)

  • @Ingeronic
    @Ingeronic Před 3 lety

    Love all of your content, the sequels brought be back into Star Wars, I wasn't happy with them, but since then I have been a SWT subscriber. Your fan films are probably the best I have seen, I hope for many more. Would love to see you interview or work with Favreau and Filoni one day. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @mikel3373
    @mikel3373 Před 3 lety

    Love these long ones

  • @RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X
    @RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X Před 3 lety +6

    Vader is my favorite sith because unlike the others, his hatred was focused on the only thing in the universe that he couldn’t destroy, himself. Every day he had to live with the knowledge that he was responsible for the death of his wife and presumably his children, of course this was nothing more than a lie from Sideous to wrack him with guilt but it worked. Obviously because his anguish was endless his anger was endless too, i believe this led to his longevity.

  • @broganwalsh3294
    @broganwalsh3294 Před 3 lety +6

    When luke died in ep 9 he reached level 10?! Gives a bit more meaning

  • @jeffsargent3072
    @jeffsargent3072 Před 3 lety

    I love these videos and your voice is awesome to listen to

  • @Ravel327
    @Ravel327 Před 3 lety

    Great video 👍🏼

  • @ForeverRonnyx
    @ForeverRonnyx Před 3 lety +4

    Subscribing to theory will make a fine addition to his collection

  • @WR288
    @WR288 Před 3 lety +4

    My personal rankings:
    Yoda - 10/10
    Palpatine - 10/10
    Mace Windu - 9/10 (10/10 w/Vaapad amp)
    Count Dooku - 9/10
    Anakin (ROTS + Vader) - 9/10
    Obi Wan (ROTS) - 8/10
    Quinlan Vos - 8/10
    Maul (TCW) - 8/10
    The average Jedi - 3/10

  • @rebeldropper8933
    @rebeldropper8933 Před 3 lety

    Awesome explanation...how palps was so entranced in the darkside "ether", he couldnt even see it coming even as a level 10!!! Love will triumph!!!

  • @geraintowen2947
    @geraintowen2947 Před 3 lety

    Super interesting video. Thanks SWT

  • @arc5410
    @arc5410 Před 3 lety +3

    Honestly when the originals came out you thought that Vader was more powerful then The Emperor. All you knew was that The Emperor had force lighting.

    • @maxwest6595
      @maxwest6595 Před 2 lety

      No. Vader asked Luke for his help to overthrow the Emperor, implying Vader was not as strong as the emperor.
      The fact he serves under Tarkin in ep. 4 also shows he is not as powerful. He is given his fleet in TESB but that is his task set by the Emperor. To find the rebels and then trap Luke. Clearly the Emperor already sees Luke as Vader's replacement, and Vader probably knows this as well.

  • @CC-Tau
    @CC-Tau Před 3 lety +3

    A new Star Wars Theory!☺️

  • @tjersero2150
    @tjersero2150 Před 3 lety

    Love the passion always

  • @rolandnew4676
    @rolandnew4676 Před 3 lety

    Of course I made it to the end of your video! They’re all awesome lol. But I’ve never heard that exact explanation with that much detail as to why Palpatine died so easily. But it always made sense to me and now it’s makes even more.
    Edit: I miss Starkiller so much man, he’s a great character. I’d love him back to some extent.

  • @buckanderson3520
    @buckanderson3520 Před 3 lety +7

    I would like to see a version of Star Wars where Anakin still became Vader but didn't get burned up and instead reached his full power. Or at least a comic.

  • @tw2147
    @tw2147 Před 3 lety +3

    Quick Question:
    Why do people with lightsabers spin while fighting? It completely exposes their back.

  • @3shar1byak3rinn
    @3shar1byak3rinn Před 3 lety

    Thank you for sharing this. I like the idea of power levels as well in terms of knowing more about these awesome characters. I will say that I am glad that they didn't go with this in movies as well. I agree that the concept of having them "beat a clock" to stop the Emperor from powering up would have video gamed it. I've always liked the concept of midi-chlorians since they were introduced in Phantom Menace, and I wish that it had been fleshed out a little bit more and talked about with other characters throughout the series. I like coming up with fanfiction of my own and I have toyed around with the concept of midi-chlorians and how they affect character's growth in the force. One of the things that I enjoyed most about the Darth Plagueis novel was how midi-chorians were talked about in much more detail. The Force is with you, and I thank you for your devotion to it.

  • @canzer1692
    @canzer1692 Před 3 lety

    Good vid and explanation

  • @adambrown3918
    @adambrown3918 Před 3 lety +3

    05:44 - "Vader" has ALWAYS been in Anakins body. LOL!

  • @Sillybilly-qf3vc
    @Sillybilly-qf3vc Před 3 lety +23

    Like if the prequels r underrated

  • @buffcanuck83
    @buffcanuck83 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. 👍😄

  • @sirlaugholot
    @sirlaugholot Před 3 lety

    Your video was verbally articulate and interesting enough to watch till the end and by your request I as a viewer and leaving you a note via a speech to text program {period}

  • @supremeleaderfokou5693
    @supremeleaderfokou5693 Před 3 lety +35

    I am sorry but I believe vader was more powerful than Palpatine in the force

    • @xsh.ak29
      @xsh.ak29 Před 3 lety +4

      i agree

    • @eldritch6234
      @eldritch6234 Před 3 lety +3

      I- Sorry what

    • @cameronroberts5461
      @cameronroberts5461 Před 3 lety +2

      Just because we see more carnage enacted by Vader, does not mean that he is stronger. How much strength would it take to mask all your power and fool thousands of worlds to become emperor? Even in the face of supposed jedi masters? Palpatine is clearly much more powerful. The dude sith mind tricked the whole galaxy. Like bruh

    • @supremeleaderfokou5693
      @supremeleaderfokou5693 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cameronroberts5461 that not the force. It is called politics

    • @patrikarnic
      @patrikarnic Před 3 lety +1

      I mean it was confirmed that if he didn't lose his limbs he would have been the dominant force

  • @Bonyevangelisti
    @Bonyevangelisti Před 3 lety +33

    I think in the mandalorian Luke he's a 8

  • @starrellington7942
    @starrellington7942 Před 3 lety

    You have a very cool story telling voice I enjoy all your videos

  • @redjulius33
    @redjulius33 Před 3 lety

    Made it to the end and commenting as you asked. Good video, I like the idea but agree that it seems like a video game that way. But it does give context to their actual power levels compared to each other.

  • @StannisBaratheonOTK
    @StannisBaratheonOTK Před 3 lety +3

    "It's over Anakin! I have achieved level 5!"

  • @Hoigwai
    @Hoigwai Před 3 lety +6

    Well, in Legends we know Luke left all the others behind in total power.

  • @perceptionpoet4136
    @perceptionpoet4136 Před 3 lety

    Made it bro to the end 💯

  • @MrDJGoode
    @MrDJGoode Před 3 lety

    @SWTheory66
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    I just wanted to right this tweet to show my appreciation, and how much your SWT channel on CZcams, has helped me so much.
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    But when I watched your content, and see the passion, the love, and care you put into every video, every live stream, it helps me get through all the bad times.
    Your content gives me what I want and love which is all the star Wars information and content I could want.
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    Never stop what you're doing, you bring so much joy to so many people.
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  • @Mago.-
    @Mago.- Před 3 lety +7

    Nah, lets be clear and honest here. Palpatine and yoda both where top of the notch for sith and jedi standards overall.
    If we take full potential... well anakin hit that on mortis, and we know he is an 20/10, 10 being palpatine and yoda, AT least twice as powerfull (stated by sidious himself "vader will become twice as powerfull as any of us" when he battles yoda)
    Now, without mortis conection to the force, Anakin has no way to unlock his full potential without the right amount of training (who knows, may be he has no limits, if he trains all his life he might have been able to achieve REAL inmortality and UN LIMITED PAWAAAAAAAAAAR)
    Still, anakin managed to defeat easily Dooku, who fodderized obi wan, not once but twice, in seconds. Anakin on aotc lasted longer than Obi wan, when he was just a padawan. Anakin as a jedi knight left dooku with no chance in elegance. Dooku himself, being 2nd or 3rd (depends on each one criteria for the matter) best lightsaber duelist in the galaxy, being able to spar with yoda and windu to stalemates, daily. So anakin stomping him, leaves him AT LEAST 3rd best jedi lightsaber duelist. Now, if we count sidious, master of all forms and the strongest sith that has EVER BEEN, Anakin is 4th, being equal to windu, and a little weaker than yoda and sidious.
    Anakin is comfortably saying, a 8/10 in revenge of the sith. Obi wan is likely a 6.5 but this 6.5 has a trump card, knowing everything about anakin, and Soresu, designed to outlast any other form as long as the user has a better shape and mental state than the enemy. Which, he had vs anakin. Buffing him to anakins 8, and anakin being mental fucked up, well... he tryed, and we all know what happened.

    • @xdevilxx-_-demons3263
      @xdevilxx-_-demons3263 Před 3 lety

      No Anakin is a 10 so as Sidious 10 is the highest.

    • @Mago.-
      @Mago.- Před 3 lety +2

      @@xdevilxx-_-demons3263 And yes, i asume u refer to ros anakin, because if u say mortis anakin is equal to sidious, is straight up wrong. Sidious, is a 10 on a scaling on dueling abilities at that time. But to say that sidious is MORE powerful than the son and the daughter together, is just wrong. The son is the embodiment of the dark side, i think that the embodiment of the dark side is stronger than its strongest user.
      And anakin tamed both, child and daughter. Its natural to say that this potential unlocked anakin (even if it lasted 30 seconds or so) is the strongest character we know of in the whole verse, sayd the father, who was equal to him.

    • @mufasosends6116
      @mufasosends6116 Před 3 lety

      Great argument

    • @Mago.-
      @Mago.- Před 3 lety +1

      @@mufasosends6116 thanks mate. Glad that someone actually took his time to read it.

  • @darthnbl
    @darthnbl Před 3 lety +3

    Hey, love all your vids. Can you do a theory sometime tho since it’s your name.

  • @theanc316ientone
    @theanc316ientone Před 3 lety +2

    When I was younger, vader was my favorite, then I got older and yoda was my favorite, but now looking back, the best one has always been Obe. He has always been the underdog, stayed on the right path, and overcame critical points in his path. Obi is the most overlooked force user.

  • @archangel2427
    @archangel2427 Před 3 lety +1

    My favorite nuggets of star wars backstory and lore always ends up coming directly from George Lucas. I love hearing him talk about his own story.