My father in law was murdered the way my mother in law was crying , on the funeral day she collapsed, after 9 months after the death of her hubby she was arrested for the for hiring hitmen to kill my father in law. We were up in arms getting lawyers for her because we believed ukuthi bayamsukela until she was sentenced to life, we tried to appeal, for almost 7 years after she was sentenced. Guess what!! 10 years into her sentenced she confessed to her children that indeed she is the one who hired the hitmen to delete her hubby. Inasmuch as I believe that they are a lot of people who are sentenced for crimes they never committed
@@user-qd9dk7cq4x I am saying that don’t judge the book by its cover; we are seeing Ntanzi’s humbleness, soft spoken person and we think he is not capable of committing the crime. Singamphikela as we did with my mother in law, after 10 years she proved us wrong
Longwe was drunk nd drugged now his not althere upstairs. Mind got a hole in of all the drugs ate the sells. There is no mind available with longwe twala his father finished him lik many others with drugs
@@kamogelomoloi454Exactly Kamo, even when the evidence is put before in court they are still naive. They will say it’s Gininda who setup a phone at Vaaleria police station
Umsangano lo just a waste of time. Call the service providers of the numbers implicated prove Rica details prove calls and sms contents then case closed not this long waste of time information.
My point exactly. And it should be calls up to Oct 2014. How is 2015, 2018, 2020 calls helping this case? I feel sorry for Gouws. Who did sim swap on Senzo's cell after his death? That's what's important. That person must come to court
It's a shame that Mnisi is still attempting to create the impression that there was a genuine error in the data presented yesterday. Fortunately, no one, not even the defence team, is buying into his false claims.
Yesterday Gouse begged to adjourn because his cut & paste evidence got exposed… today Baloyi at 15 : 00 😮he asks to adjourn when on other days he doesn’t have a problem with leading his witnesses until 15 : 30 or 15 : 35. All because Mshololo exposed the cooked evidence. Baloyi has the section 205 but can’t refer to the specific sections in the 205. 😂😂😂
Someone, please help me to.understand, making call with the criminal is a sin in South Africa??? Or we are no longer allowrd to make calls to one another if you stand a chance if being arrested?
No it's not, but remember the accussed in court need to prove their innocence, by bring forward evidence brought against them. If you remember the accused said they do not know each other, that is why Baloyi is bringing forward the evidence that they know each other and have been calling each other, accussed number 5 deny being in the hostel with Zungu the Cell phone evidence proves that he was in Volso that why now they are denying their numbers, if you go back to the cellphone evidence you will know that some of these numbers they are denying they provided the bank and account store when opening accounts
@@user-wq1zf8ze8r u believe ma that. 2mrw rata gonna play drums and jive on his tervene moves. If defence on their legs ratatata jive like headless chicken. The joke is on rata defence for the state.
The analyst read jst what he see.there is still service provider who is going to give the exact information from those calls.nd remember service provider wont differ to gouws bt will say since gouws mentioned that number who called number who this is what said during the calls.immediately the defence allowed or agreed on some of the calls or deny them all ,the service provider is still coming to rescue us all.like ntuli said the other number phoned kelly was ndwandwe 's he is still going to be proven beyond reasonable doubt by the evidence from service providers .this will also answer questions of those who keep on saying how are the calls proofing the murderers which the answer is more simple "what was exactly said in during the calls
It doesn't make sense at all, Ntanzi moved from one police station to another with his phone he was with bo Mogane the whole day and night but they never caught him they only caught him when he is relaxing in his cell it doesn't make sense at all
Guys Ntanzi was naive, vulnerable and young. I think he was forced by these mgulukudu into conspiring with them to commit this crime. We can all be in defence of Ntanzi because we have a soft spot for him but the evidence is pointing to them and we can’t change it
No I don't think he does yazi Mosewa. She is a little disrespectful. I can only attribute it to her thinking that she's superior because she is the only female amongst all men. She needs to be humbled a bit; and she will suddenly be like: "I understand my lord" 🙄🙄 "Yes, that is correct my lord"🙄🙄🙄. We cannot deny how calm and respectful Baloyi is; despite all the other weird things and accusations. Even Ramosepele is a very respectful person.
don't forget that's 5 years after so its not a crime to know each other after that, albeit that these guys have crime record but that does not make them guilty of senzo's murder
My father in law was murdered the way my mother in law was crying , on the funeral day she collapsed, after 9 months after the death of her hubby she was arrested for the for hiring hitmen to kill my father in law. We were up in arms getting lawyers for her because we believed ukuthi bayamsukela until she was sentenced to life, we tried to appeal, for almost 7 years after she was sentenced. Guess what!! 10 years into her sentenced she confessed to her children that indeed she is the one who hired the hitmen to delete her hubby. Inasmuch as I believe that they are a lot of people who are sentenced for crimes they never committed
What do you want to say in respect of this case?
@@user-qd9dk7cq4xku obvious because babe muphikela at the end boom uye owaqasha I hitman qondanisa nawe about this case ukt uqonde ukuthini
@@user-qd9dk7cq4x I am saying that don’t judge the book by its cover; we are seeing Ntanzi’s humbleness, soft spoken person and we think he is not capable of committing the crime. Singamphikela as we did with my mother in law, after 10 years she proved us wrong
Eish sorry about it bra
Only 2014 calls , and sms plus contents will send the accused to jail . Kwamanje 😂😂😂 just people abusing taxes .
High profile criminal arrested with phone how
Tell us the contents of the conversation. Calling someone the last time I checked is not a crime.
Sure, but he deny calling the number. So the question is why deny if the call was innocent?
They Also deny knowing each other
Gninda also lie about investigating but 0%of yhe spaza ppl
Longwe was drunk nd drugged now his not althere upstairs. Mind got a hole in of all the drugs ate the sells. There is no mind available with longwe twala his father finished him lik many others with drugs
The way this letagwa is calm wait til its defens legano la gagwe tlebe le atlhame jaka sehene sa 🐓 le utlwala ko Botswana🤮
Tlhogo yahao hae bereke
@@kamogelomoloi454hahaha le ya gago
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@@GerBot_hahahahaha siras
@@kamogelomoloi454Exactly Kamo, even when the evidence is put before in court they are still naive. They will say it’s Gininda who setup a phone at Vaaleria police station
What is d next date for AKA trial pple
Kushubile manje ongaboni ngeke aphinde abone noma uyazenzisa
@simphiweinnocent778: You can say that again
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Iyooo the state is so confused, check out @4:57!!!!!
Accused number 5 looks like he was coordinator he is the one who arranged everything
Gouws said 205 given to him by the service provider ? Earlier he said he would get everything from the investigating officer? Who is fooling who?
Nothing was arranged they didn't kill Senzo this boy are innocent
To hear court proceedings
First time seeing Maphisa abambelele eshlathini nd uNtuli ngapha noMncube 🤔ngathi bayaz kwenzekan so stressed on their behalf😢
Uyazi kodwa why kuze kufiwe la
HAYKHONA NGEKE ISENGU GOUW KWAKHONA? HAYGEKE LET ME LISTEN TO BREAKDOWN OF SELF APPOINTED EXPECTS. TIRED OF CORRECTIONS YAKA MR VASELINE
The reading of these phone records is boring, it leads me to confusion..... I see why the judge thought the same
Ohhh gosh
2 days of calls information no Kelly Khumalo, makhumalo and longwe twala
Unfortunately state only have 3 witnesses left😢😢
@@ZEEH406Gininda and who?
@@lubabalotshitshi2106 Ms Pinky, Gininda and Magena
Defence 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Defence working as team now
Umsangano lo just a waste of time. Call the service providers of the numbers implicated prove Rica details prove calls and sms contents then case closed not this long waste of time information.
Clearly, you are better than Baloyi 👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿
My point exactly. And it should be calls up to Oct 2014. How is 2015, 2018, 2020 calls helping this case? I feel sorry for Gouws. Who did sim swap on Senzo's cell after his death? That's what's important. That person must come to court
Ratha oba shebile
Gazanation ❤️
Judge is preparing to be a witness during x examination
why can't they link accused no1,2,3,4,5...
@prospersibanda: Which court case are you watching kanti
@@Wele1012 there is no evidence that links 2345,0r 12345 on calls?
Because they are cooking
All the days that the jugde and state were postponing. They wanted gous to go Prepare.. last time he rad numbers withiout the device names..
Hawuh yehheni postponed because of ama lowyer
It's a shame that Mnisi is still attempting to create the impression that there was a genuine error in the data presented yesterday. Fortunately, no one, not even the defence team, is buying into his false claims.
Yesterday Gouse begged to adjourn because his cut & paste evidence got exposed… today Baloyi at 15 : 00 😮he asks to adjourn when on other days he doesn’t have a problem with leading his witnesses until 15 : 30 or 15 : 35. All because Mshololo exposed the cooked evidence. Baloyi has the section 205 but can’t refer to the specific sections in the 205. 😂😂😂
Bcz he denied it fist. Now he use part of mkubos 375 docket. The part he must arrested in 375 he stil hide but defence got hold of it. Check mate
Someone, please help me to.understand, making call with the criminal is a sin in South Africa???
Or we are no longer allowrd to make calls to one another if you stand a chance if being arrested?
No it's not, but remember the accussed in court need to prove their innocence, by bring forward evidence brought against them. If you remember the accused said they do not know each other, that is why Baloyi is bringing forward the evidence that they know each other and have been calling each other, accussed number 5 deny being in the hostel with Zungu the Cell phone evidence proves that he was in Volso that why now they are denying their numbers, if you go back to the cellphone evidence you will know that some of these numbers they are denying they provided the bank and account store when opening accounts
Its cooked no 205. Baloyi was stuttering when msholo ask rata he ratlle than that is from a liar
The accused lied. They said they don't know each other. Now the state is using phone calls to prove that they know each other.
@@user-wq1zf8ze8r u believe ma that. 2mrw rata gonna play drums and jive on his tervene moves. If defence on their legs ratatata jive like headless chicken. The joke is on rata defence for the state.
Rata is the joker of the year high 5 for ratatata.
The analyst read jst what he see.there is still service provider who is going to give the exact information from those calls.nd remember service provider wont differ to gouws bt will say since gouws mentioned that number who called number who this is what said during the calls.immediately the defence allowed or agreed on some of the calls or deny them all ,the service provider is still coming to rescue us all.like ntuli said the other number phoned kelly was ndwandwe 's he is still going to be proven beyond reasonable doubt by the evidence from service providers .this will also answer questions of those who keep on saying how are the calls proofing the murderers which the answer is more simple "what was exactly said in during the calls
Tell them. They think remetśhamekong mo!
I don't think tapping a phone is allowed in South Africa. Therefore i don't think they will say what was said but i stand to be corrected
How do you know what the expert will say? These witnesses are always contradicting each other nje.
Service providers do not record phone calls, therefore, no recordings will be played.
@@outclasstours1342then who records?
Why Mogane foubd the phone where was Valeria police? Ayaxoka amapolisa
it does not make sense
@@prospersibanda8526 not making sense at all
It doesn't make sense at all, Ntanzi moved from one police station to another with his phone he was with bo Mogane the whole day and night but they never caught him they only caught him when he is relaxing in his cell it doesn't make sense at all
@@ZEEH406 nothing make sense at all mntase Ntanzi has been hold in hostage the whole time water has been poured on him so his phone survived all that
Guys Ntanzi was naive, vulnerable and young. I think he was forced by these mgulukudu into conspiring with them to commit this crime. We can all be in defence of Ntanzi because we have a soft spot for him but the evidence is pointing to them and we can’t change it
lisakhona lecala eluwumsuzo🤣🤣🤣
This so called Ratha can't even hide hatred towards mshololo
No I don't think he does yazi Mosewa. She is a little disrespectful. I can only attribute it to her thinking that she's superior because she is the only female amongst all men. She needs to be humbled a bit; and she will suddenly be like:
"I understand my lord" 🙄🙄
"Yes, that is correct my lord"🙄🙄🙄.
We cannot deny how calm and respectful Baloyi is; despite all the other weird things and accusations. Even Ramosepele is a very respectful person.
For people who claim not know to each other they sure call each other like bf nd gf.
Is that a LINK TO MURDER ?????
udom shame@@sarahmelodingvirginia2043
But the state is proving that this guys know each other and why would you deny that you know someone if you know that you are innocent?
@@sarahmelodingvirginia2043100%
don't forget that's 5 years after so its not a crime to know each other after that, albeit that these guys have crime record but that does not make them guilty of senzo's murder