Who ACTUALLY Deserved The 2021 BALLON D'OR?
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- The 2021 Ballon D'or is in the books.
Lionel Messi was the big winner on the night and the footballing world immediately erupted with rage. This is the greatest player to ever live and people were not having it.
So what gives?
Was Robert Lewandowski robbed? Did Jorginho deserve to be on the podium? Does the Ballon D'or even matter at all?
Let's find out.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:20 - Ballon D'or: A brief history
08:53 - The 2021 Ballon D’or: Messi vs Lewandowski
14:01 - Does The Ballon D’or even matter?
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Messi: “Lewandowski deserved it in 2020.”
France Football: “Best we can do is a Ritz cracker.”
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Lmao
Lmao not even a full pack of crackers just one ritz 😢
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Lewa did deserve it in 2020 which Messi graciously asked France Football to give it to him. Shows his class. Who else would have done that? Not Ronaldo,for sure.
France football is a joke, should be Phil Jones. He's so good, you can't even see him on the pitch.
Factos 👀👍
Jones' stats this calendar year:
Dribbled past 0 times
0 goals conceded
0 errors leading to a goal
0 errors leading to a shot
@@FootballIconic Cry More 😉
LM7
BTW what did lewa ever win with his team ?
Yeah it's a joke when your fav player ain't winning shit 🤣🤣🤣
@@boombs7232 nine Bundesliga titles, four DFB Cup titles, six DFL Super Cup titles, 1 UEFA Super Cup title and 1 Champions League
Lewandowski definitely deserved the award in 2020 and I’m glad he picked up the “striker of the year” as a consolation. But why was there no “midfielder of the year” or “defender of the year”. Forward players are already favoured in the main award and they ADD another striker award? I’d be fuming if I was a defender!!
I think it's because even they knew it was a a bit screwy. Took from him the season prior and gave it to Messi this year.
There was no middlefielder and defender of the year because the only reason they created the striker prize was to give Messi the ballondor and try to give something to lewa, wich actually looked more like an humilliation than a prize, ridiculous award, ridiculous bias toward Messi, lewa was clear in 2020, and is still clear till this day.
@@LJGamers1 sure lewa deserved better last year, but what has he won this year to deserve the balón dor, other than the Bundesliga, and numbers less impressive than messi’s
@@JavierMartinez-il6od less impressive ? Lewa has 77 goal + assists this year, broke a legendary football Record held by Gerd Muller scoring 41 goals in 29 games in the bundesliga, and consistently played in a ballondor level trough all the year. He did that playing less games than Messi by the way, and Messi has 58 goal contributions, That's quite a difference. Messi won because of one Month where he scored against bolivia and his team gave him a Trophy while he ghosted against Brazil as usual. Only reason Messi won It was bias and he's a Lot more famous than Lewa. If you wanted to give the ballondor to who won the best trophies Jorginho WA your pick not Messi, Jorginho won the greatest club level tournament and the best tournament at a National team level in the year too.
The award was created to cover up the stupid stunt they pulled off by given Messi the ballon d'Or
I’m gonna be brutally honest, Fred 100% deserved the Ballon D’or
He should teach the likes of Kdk and Bruno how to properly assist goals😆
My man speaking fax 🤌🏽
No cap
FACTOS 👍👀
Bout time someone speak the truth
The problem is them scrapping the award last year which Lewandowski deserved to win hands down. If he won it last year and Messi this year, I don't think the outrage would be the same as it is now. And you're spot on when you said it affects the fans more than the players.
Can you people please shut up about canceling last year award show, do you really think that hosting an award show so that a bunch of rich fucker can enhance their egos in the middle of a pandemic while the rest of the world is still in the recovering is a good decision?
But why didn't they give him the award from last year, they just proved that they are not letting lewy get it cuz they said it and that's all
@@GarlicBread1210 bro but they could give lewy his award, if messy should've won it they would've five to him this year no matter what but its lewy and they for some fucking reason don't like him
@@mr.gunner241 French football and FIFA have always been corrupt just look at history one of the greatest players of all time Michel Platini who won 3 ballon dors himself turned out to be a fraud in FIFA.
Facts.
If it was awarded to Lewa in 2020 and to Messi in 2021,than I don’t think that people would’ve commented that much.
The biscuit award they gave Lewa was basically saying "you should win the Ballon D'or, but we are giving it to Messi anyway"
It was not given it was voted
@@lllll8449 And who votes? People. Journalists.
@@liampowell5014 this has always been an opinion basef award so you could basically say every player hss been robbed every 0year
Ballon D'or is a popularity contest, just remember what happened in 2018.
@@magivkmeister6166 i thought ronaldo is the most popular footballer having most instagram followers
I think Fundamentally there's a large problem with WHEN the votes are submitted already. If it's supposedly the award for the best player in a year, then why does voting close 2 months and 6 days BEFORE the year is even finished, it's like deciding on the NBA MVP when there's still 20 games left to the season or awarding the Oscars before the year is finished, there's a whole 2 months that can change ALOT even if just slight and can't be ignored. This year shows just that, as even though Lewandowski and Messi so far have 74 and 59 G/A in 2021 respectively, by the time voting closed on October 24th Messi had 56 and Lewandowski had 62, that's a combined 15 G/A from both players added to their tallys that the votes DIDN'T account for and there's probably even more to go considering there's still another MONTH to go after the Ballon D'or has been awarded, that's alot to ignore
Tbf it always seems to me that the ballon d’or is always based on seasonal performance rather than annual performance with the ballon d’or just being delayed to around the end of the year, based off how highly/lowly ranked certain players are at the end of the voting and how it always seems to favour the first half of the year more than the second half
This is wrong. If the voting closes by late October every year, it essentially makes the award consideration to start from that October to the next October
@@danielthomas284 but that'd completely defeat the purpose of declaring the winner the best player of a given year, if your vote for the Ballon D'or will be considered from October 2020 to October 2021 then you can't call it the 2021 Ballon D'or. At that point you might as well just make the Ballon D'or a seasonal thing rather than an annual thing
@@danielthomas284 no for some weird reason it's 01. january to 24 october
The same reason why someone could be born in January and they still have to wait until January the following year and not December to celebrate their b day. The voting ends at the time it ends because the votes are only for a single season of play plus any other international tournaments or games
Crazy how everyone complains about Messi winning but no one says anything about Benzema being fourth.
Fair enough
Because the honest truth is nobody cares about runners up.
thats the most bullshit of bullshit
i am mad jorginho came third like what did he do
werner was not as invisible as jorginho lol
For the guys who are mentioning the 2013 and 2019 Ballon D'or
2013 Ballon D'or :
Ronaldo didn't win any major trophy and won whereas Ribery won the Treble (UCL, League and League Cup) and still finished 3rd in Ballon D'or Voting.
Ronaldo and Ribery were both wingers/wide players that year. Ronaldo scored 59 goals for Madrid that year and Ribery scored 16 goals for Bayern. In the 2012/13 UCL, Ronaldo was top scorer with 12 goals whereas Ribery only scored 1 goal. Ronaldo was without a doubt the best player at Madrid in the 2012/13 season and the only one keeping them competitive. I agree Ribery was the best player at Bayern during the 2012/13 season but was Robben, Lahm and Neuer that far from him. They were also as important as Ribery to that Bayern team's success.
2019 Ballon D'or :
Van Dijk won the UCL, finished runner's up in the Nations League and runner's up in the League (1 point) but still finished 2nd to Leo Messi who had only won La Liga that year.
Messi scored 51 goals from 50 games for Barca in 2018/19. Was the Top Scorer in the League and UCL. He was by far the best player at Barca and the only one who was keeping them competitive on all fronts right till the end. I do agree Van Dijk had one of the best seasons a defender has had in recent memory but was Van Dijk carrying that Liverpool team like Messi carried Barca? Was the likes of Sadio Mane, Mo Salah and Allisson that far from Van Dijk during that season? They were also as important as Van Dijk to that Liverpool team's success.
When Messi and Cristiano retire, we all will truly realize how great they were season after season for such a long time...
But you're justifying those wins, Ronaldo in 2013 and Messi in 2019, by thrm having better goal scoring statistics than their rivals. This, and last, season Lewandowski has been the better goal scorer and won everything there was to win at club level. Lewandowski was to 2020 and 2021 what Messi was to 2019.
@@samuelkelly7227 yes but lewa is not carrying bayern single handedly on his back like messi with barca, he has a world class team around him that have been winning the league consecutively for years, whereas messi dragged barca to top 3 in la liga and the copa del rey, and without him they are mid table. Its not a top scorer award its the best individual
@@kony1414 Ter Stergen was also pivotal at barca
@@kony1414 If this would be that important, then only Players at Bad Teams could win. Ist not really a good argument.... Messi & Ronaldo also won the ballon d'or with world class Players around them....
There is a lot flawed argument in your comment but the most important one. VVD transformed Liverpool and Made them to one of the best Teams. Just Look how good they are now, scince He is back. To say he didnt deserve the Ballon d'Or because the Players around him were too good ist just stupid (i am Not saying he was robbed, IT IS a porsonal opinion, just your argument ist stupid) VVD and Messi were the best Players in 2019 as Lewi amd Messi were the best in 2021. Difficult to say who had the better year.
The Ballon D'or lost all it's credibility when Diego Milito wasn't even nominated in 2010...
Diego Milito won 5 trophies with Inter in 2010 (Seria A, Copa Italia, UCL, Club World Cup and Super Copa) . He was arguably their best and most important player during the 2009/10 season. He was Inter's top goal scorer and he scored 30 goals that season (14 more than any other Inter Milan Player) which included 22 in the league and 6 in the UCL. Was 2nd top scorer in Serie A and 3rd top scorer in UCL. Diego Milito scored the only goal in the Copa Italia final against Roma and also scored in the Semi Final against Fiorentina, scored the winning goal in the last match of Serie A that won Inter the league, Milito bagged a brace against FC Bayern in the UCL final and also scored in the round of 16, QF and SF of the UCL against Chelsea, CSKA and Barcelona. He also scored several other decisive goals that season. Despite doing all this, Diego Milito wasn't even nominated for the Ballon D'or in 2010. ( Was he not even among the top 23 players in the world? )
He was better then Sneijder in that team.
whoo?
@@jakescourage stick to golf mate
@@jakescourage what? You don't know him?
The award has lost all his value since ronaldo have 5 of them
For me both messi and lewa deserved it, yes lewa scored more goals but he also plays in arguably the best team in the world, and definitely the best team in Germany as a striker. On the other hand messi carried an underperforming barcelona and significantly contributed to Argentina's Copa America win, we are all seeing what is happening to barca now that he is gone. I do believe that lewa should have gotten the 2020 ballon dor, he deserved it more than anyone. For this year i don't care either way
So that means the year Modric won the award CR7 deserved to win the award. Real Madrid became absolutely garbage after he left.
@@sylvinkabongo174 cr7 or messi, either of them would have been fair
Underperforming Argentina ? Are you blind ? Or did you Just didnt watch the games ? Argentina won against BRAZIL, with Messi ghosting the whole game in a final. How in the world is that underperforming ?
@@LJGamers1 I meant to say underperforming Barcelona not Argentina I'll edit it
@@PMAV oh ok, im Sorry If i was rude skakslkajabsksk
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I think what hurts the most is the fact that history will see Robert as "one of those guy". What I mean by this is that he'll be in the league of greats, no doubt. But for the generations after us, he'll only be "one of the legends", maybe cherished by Byern or Poland fans, some DEEP football fans, but that's it.
Players like Alan Sheera, Cantona, Patrick Viera, etc. These guys are, legends, no doubt. But realistically, most of the fans around the world only got to know about them when they got deep into football, especially the fans from my generation. Sure, they gained my respect, but when a guy like me, who started watching football in 2012, when I was 10, I'd say legends for me are Zidanes, Ronaldo Naz, Maradona, etc.
The reason these guys are in my list is because they dominated football, and history recognises them as huge legends with massive accolades. Part of the reason why they were, and are huge is cause they won a Ballandor.
As a kid, hearing about this award, you just think it's the only assessment for greatness. I mean sure, over the years, you become more objective with the assessment of best player, but in your subconscious, Ballandor always clouds you.
That's why players like Raul, Henry, etc.etc., I'll always never have them in my bests, cause they never won one.
Robert not winning the Ballandor will put him with them. That doesn't make him a bad player, but I can see kids 20+ years later seeing Lewa and just going "hmm, one of the legends cool". He deserves to be up top with Ronaldo and Messi for sure.
Salah, Benzema, Robert, Kante, etc. Will become the new Henry's and gang and Ronaldo, Messi, fuck, even Modric will join the Maradona and gang, because of this fucking stupid award.
I hope what I was trying to articulate made some sense.
Yeah so as you can see, I wasn't really bothered by Messi winning 🤗
That's some deep shit.... wonderfully described or as a legend said
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Yeah, it's very sad but I think there won't be Messi and Ronaldo competing for this award. Lewa, Salah, Benzema and others will be on contention, and it would be great to one of them getting awards.
For sure not. Lewandowski never up there with Messi and Ronaldo
Lewa plays in farmers League and has only half of the goals Messi and Ronaldo have. Also Messi and Ronaldo contribute more to their team. Messi is also a Playmaker, Assist giver and Ronaldo leads his team.
Lewandowski does none of that, hasnt even scored half of the goals these guys have while playing in a team that is dominating their own League for years because they are richer than the other clubs
@@karesz23 You gotta be hella deluded to think Lewandowski doesnt take part of the build up of his team man just look at his games
Ballon d'or is a subjective award and not statistical award, unlike the Golden boot. We simply can't measure the winner of ballon d'or based on statistics as there are different positions in football and each contribute differently. I am more surprised, why they didn't make more statistical awards for each aspect of the game. Then there would be no debate. Golden boot is the major award for goals. But there isn't a major award for most assist made by a midfielder, most saves made by a keeper, most successful tackles and interceptions made by a defender in a particular season. That way we could recognize the quality if players in each positions. Well, in olden days it was difficult to collect these data's so they decided to give the ballon d'or based on votes. But now in modern football they should introduce more statistical awards like these to recognize the deserved and true winners.
its statistical thats why messi won it this year
Yeah because Lewandowski did not have the netter stats... Oh, and before you make fun of the Bundesliga, there hasn't been a striker in the Bundesliga, nearly as dominant or prolific as Lewandowski in the last 40 years. That has nothing to do with "Farm League" or stuff like that. His stats were out of the world while Messi's in that year were not so much unique from other players' abilities.
@@SamWinchester000 Ok, so what!
Dude you are my favorite CZcams right now. Just binged so many videos. Entertaining and you tell the story well. If you haven’t yet, can you make a video on whether Neymars time at PSG is really a failure
Finally someone decided to upload i was holding my breath.
2020 will always be Lewa's even tho he does not have it in his house.
Funny how Messi won it with the same stats he had in 09 when he won it for the first time i have no doubt if Messi was not kicked out of barca he would solidify his stats from August till voting ended for me Messi did enough it was not just his goals it was his level of performance and all round contribution to the attacking play to that dead barca team and in the his antics in the fight club of a competition copa America
Factos 👀👍
Lewa deserved it in 2020, and this season its not that lewa didn’t deserve it, its just that Messi deserved it a bit more
If Brazil had won the Copa america, would Neymar win the ballon d'or? No. The fact is that nobody gave a shit about the copa america until Messi won it.
@@JorgeMiguel147 but if Messi won it, he would cuz he was already having a great performance at barca and was a a strong contender already and copa america just increased his chances
@@JorgeMiguel147 if Neymar had the stats that Messi have this year? Yeah, of course he would. Everyone actually pay attention to Copa America. The tournament was full of great teams and superstars. And they were actually going all out on the tournament.
It's sad to see many people discredit Messi for his achievements. He deserved the award, the stats factually said so. And I'm not even Messi fan, just a football fan in general.
I think there should be a balon d'or for every third of the pitch. But it's just not as sensationalized as the current iteration
I honestly agree with you. There should be one for every position so that the players that aren't strikers can be acknowledge for there effort on the team.
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I feel sorry for Barcelona on Wednesday . Lew is going to finish them
Oof
Yep. Gonna be honest and say I'll enjoy it immensely
You never know
That's rough
Fantastic video as always my friend
Cheers!!!
@maqwell suprised to see u here
Why are everyone complaining about Salah finishing 7th? The Ballon D'or voting got over around mid Oct. Salah didn't win anything with Liverpool last season and barely made it to the Top 4. Harry Kane who performed better than him last season (Top scorer + Most Assists in the League) and also reached the Euro's final, still ended up at 23rd position. I do agree that Salah's been fantastic for the last 2-3 months and that will make him a contender for the next year's Ballon D'or (2022). Kindly stop making his current form the argument for him finishing higher in a Ballon D'or whose voting ended 2 months ago.
Yeah him and Benzema shouldn't have been in top 10
@@kaizenryan3390 Benzema does won nations league and carried his club last season. Same as messi last season career with his Copa America if you ask me
What does Liverpool's position have to do with anything? Kane was pretty awesome last season but better? We'll agree to disagree. Kane finishing in 23rd though was a travesty and doesn't prove that Salah should have finished 7th at all. Liverpool were terrible last season, Salah was pretty much the only on form player. He did so well considering the rest of the team were flat.
@@febrianr8578 Benzema lit only before a few months,messi did it frok start of the season
This argument of not winning anything is really dumb, Messi only won Copa America and that's hardly a big deal when it's a competition isolated from the rest of the world, i respect his performance but a single player definitely can't carry a team and it's not like Argentina isn't one of the best national teams in the world, let's not act like Messi was the only reason why they won the title when they have multiple quality players.
I feel like there was some bias because he's widely considered the goat and since he had a very good year they decided that they might as well give him another ballon d'or while he's still around, just like how in 2020 it should've been Lewandowski but covid things and well they would give it to Messi simply because he's Messi at this point, there's way too much bias imo.
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I'm gonna be brutally honest, Lingard 100% deserved the Ballon D'or
AM NOT CAPPING BUT THE WAY LINGARD PLAYED AT WEST HAM 🤤
Dude are u trolling or are u being serious
@@Magpiez06 the fuck do you think 😂😂
@@pullthatupjamie3537 I think they are trolling.
@@Magpiez06 he is obviously being serious, don’t disrespect lord lingardinho like that
My main issues with the recent ones were Modric winning in 2018, and the 2020 cancelling of the ceremony where Lewandoski should've won.
This channel is incredibly good. Everything is backed with data
Lovely detailed content as always, waiting for a detail videos of ronaldo
Maguire robbed
The right answer
Now, that you said it, i actually think it is insane that an award was made only for Lewandowski. I mean it is bigger than winning a old award when you can create a new award for yourself. It only states that Balon D'or this year was just a runner up trophy this year because Lewandowski wanted a new award for himself this year. Truly a GOAT.
I like your optimism bro 👍🏻
Well when your bias wins over talent it does matter but when talent annihilate your biases it doesn't matter ...simple as that
Been waiting for this vid
Lewa deserved it in 2020
Messi deserved it in 2021
Check the stats.
Check the reasons why past winners won.
Understand that its an individual award first.
Goals - Lewba > Messi > Benzema > Jorgi > Kante
Assists - Messi > Rest
Trophies - Jorgi > Kante > Messi > Lewba > Benzema
Importance to the team and individual contribution to the team's success - Messi > Rest
Remember what Argentina is without Messi
Observe what Barca is without Messi
Name one player from the top 50 who is so important to the team.
Lewba plays in a league with only one team, The second best team Dortmund-RB can't even win Europa or make the semis.
England / Germany / France routinely put 8 - 12 goals in Euro or World cup qualifiers, Ever seen that happen in South American qualifiers? Fewer teams in that continent still you will see Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Columbia regularly make the later stages of the World Cup.
As for popularity contest allegations.. How do u become popular? By paying? By putting hot pics on insta? Rap fashion videos?
You get 'popular' by on field performance.
tldr; Messi wins for the same reasons Modric won it and Messi has more assists and goals than him.
PS - Fabio Cannavaro won the award in 2006 for the same reasons.
Lol
Finally someone understands
Factos
100%
"League with one team" Bayern is the best team but other German teams have had sucesses in Europe.
Fun fact Neymar is the only player who played outside Europe and made the top 10 for the ballondor in 2011
Messi?
Oh nvm u said played
Romário won it by playin for Brazil lmao
How on earth does this channel not have like a million subs??
Nice one, had no much information, but important
I would like an award for the best striker, the best midfielder, the best defender and goalkeeper of the year. They actually made an award at UEFA and I liked that system because there is better comparison since players are divided in their roles in a team and certain stats for their respective role can be easier figured out. This would also help more players to be recognized. But if we want to award just one field player or overall player of the year, I do think this video is right in saying that we have to find out who had the biggest impact on the team and the teams success.
Messi has been leading the power rankings since June. I hate how ppl act shocked when Messi won. Truly it was the right pick
I think it's sad that people don't aknowledge the significance it was that the Gerd Müller record was broken by Lewandowski. Messi won the Copa but this record was thought to be impossible to beat. It feels wrong to even say that the most goals in one season weren't scored by Gerd Müller.
Factss
Good God! why your subs is so low while your content is such a pure bliss to watch
A journalist award shouldn't be an argument on who the best player is
Hi mate do you think you could do a vid about Roberto Baggio, he’s such a underrated player and it would be a really good vid, if not keep up the good work (:
It's in the pipeline man! Cheers!
Honestly, I like the Ballon d'Or. It's a good concept. Like you stated in your video, it has its pros and cons. I think the Ballon D'or should have a designated for each position in football. I believe that Ballon D'or is a prestigious award. Still, my only concern is that most people don't realize that you have to have a good midfielder squad, defender squad, and most importantly, an excellent goalkeeper to have a great striker. I think midfielders, defenders, and goalkeepers aren't getting the credit they deserve. I feel like to make it more meaningful to have one for defenders, midfielders, goalkeepers, and strikers to decrease the bias towards that award. Now, I know that some people might think that it's dumb to do it that way. As stated in your video, most Ballon D'or winners are primarily strikers. I believe this has been a significant bias towards this award because it always focuses more on the states than player effectiveness on the team. Van Dijk and Luka winning the award was controversial, but these two made a significant impact at least one time in a major tournament (Luka mainly the 2018 World Cup and Van Dijk in EP and Champions league). That's where I stand with the award. Come to think of it there's should be one the club as well. At this point I might be over steping this part a little. I would like to anyone opinion on where I stand with the award.
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The ballon dor will always matter. Other than goal, assist and titles with club and country, when its this tight they have to calculate the individual player movement on the pitch in terms of dribbles, chances created, passes and those other stuff that makes midfielders have a chance in making top 5 in nominees. And Messi was the man
Not gonna argue with your reasoning. But at the same time, I'm fairly certain the people that decided on the award didn't compare those factors😂
Messi edged it for me. After winning the Copa, I was confident he was going to win it. Seeing the Barca side he was playing for, it's hard to ignore his brilliance and efforts. Not just looking at the stats but also paying attention to the quality he showcased.
Then why didn't Iniesta win it in 2010 when he won World Cup.
@@mlungzak5818 Messi in 2010 was playing out of his mind. Iniesta won WC but he wasn't WC Best Player.
@@draza9000Exactly lewa was out of this world too having 20 more goals than messi😐And the ball n dor is based on the whole year before 2022 so lewa actually had 69 goals and messi had a few more g+a than he actually did,lewa still had 20 g+a more than him.And still scored more international goals with poland.If messi doesnt win the journalists come to his aid.Honestly messi is the goat and deserves 6/7 awards but like I dont know why journalists favour him because he is humble...The award is based on performance not charecter
@@uzairalam5725 Let's be honest once for all. If the award is based on performance (individual performances since it's an individual accolade) as you claim, Messi would already have at least 10 ballon d'or. The only aspect the two players are compared is the GOALs scored. And it stops there. Goals scored aside, there's no way we compare the two players. What really upsets me about the likes of you is your tendency to confuse being goalscorer and being best player. The ballon d'or should recongise the best player not the topscorer. This huge confusion is the reason today, players like midfields, defenders or goalkeepers are missing in the ballon d'or shortlist(top 3). Only scorers are praised and in the spotlight. Everyone seems to be obsessed with goals
All the comments in a nutshell
I'm gonna be brutally honest, ________ 100% deserved the Ballon D'or
For me Zlatan 100% deserved ballon D'or this year😌
I'm gonna be brutally honest, Phil Jones 100% deserved the Ballon d'or
Everybody knows that Goatwaite got robbed .
Hahahaha Lord Bendtner all the way! Take my like already!
Quite frankly it's ridiculous to say Messi DIDN'T deserve it, he didn't rob anyone. Lewa was robbed last year ofc, but both of them would've deservedly won this year. Messi had another stellar year, so his win isn't some crazy conspiracy, I do believe they should award Lewa with 2020's Ballon d'Or though, that was a stupid call.
Your content is goat level
I see what you did here and i like the video,
Can we Have a Video about How Edouard Mendy was Robbed , and how Donnarumma made top 10 when his GK stats are not up the the Standard of mendy.
Again love the channel
I mean he did have a good Euros so it's a tight one
Lewandowski has been outrageously good for the entire year whereas Lionel Messi has been embarrassing and invisible by his own standards for the last 3 months. Therefore Lewandowski should win it. Its not even debatable.
So the last 3monthd is gonna determine who wins it... what you smoking man
Look we can get mad about Messi for 2021 but Jorghino in 3rd is actually a travesty
Really u should make a detailed good long video on guardiola fcb. Later also on MSN ITS A REQUEST
The ballon D'or has become a popularity contest other than the best player award
I think both Messi and Lewa deserved it, but I'm a Messi fan, so u know... However, this video is what I want, a valid argument between subjective view and personal preference, not like those people who got mad whether for Lewa or to defend Messi.
Lewa should have gotten it
Like, I mean that Lewa deserved it more than Messi, mot that didn't deserve it
Messi deserved it. He won Copa for Argentina - first year in 20 years. Munich wins Bundesliga every year.
Should have been given his 2020 one but not 2021
@@ahmedzakikhan7639 So what? It shouldn't be awarded based on emotion
Lewa deserved it in 2020
@@ahmedzakikhan7639 Poland hasn’t won anything since they can’t win they have lewandowski one one else
Come on, the man banged 26 MVP awards. Lewy is playing in the best team in the world.
Messi has a talent that no one else had in the past 12 years of the ballon d'or and this makes some people want to make him look like the best player of all time and they see this award as something that future generations can use as reference and that's unfortunate for lewa, snjeider, and van dyk who had better seasons than him and were more important for their teams and win more impressive silverware but again the voters are probably like us either ronaldo or messi fans who will use a good year by either one of them to reward it the award over the other players who had a better year, ribery, snjeider, van dyk and robert lewandowski paying the expense of this fandom.
Lewa more important to his team to messi who literally carried barca and argentina on his back? And in 2021 he won more importanr silverware too?
RL should have gotten for 2020 tho imo that was a great year for him too
in 2018 they were sick of Messi & Ronaldo winning the Ballon d'or, now they're sick of voting for who actually deserved it for the year
at 5:50 I got an ad that started out with “Mr. Clean” and I was so wildly confused for a second
This award lost its credibility a long time ago when in 2010 messi was awarded the ballon d'or instead of Sneijder because of most goal contributions. So I am not even remotely surprised. Same goes with Ronaldo in 2013 and 2014, messi in 2019 by robbing Van Dijk, a defender.
Yep agreed that was the year the true value of the award was lost. Sneijder or Diego Milito, what more can you ask for from a season. It just is widely taken as having little meaning since then.
Totally agreed
I thought Ramos should of won it in 2017. Real Madrid won la liga and became the first team to successfully defend the Champions League. Yes Ronaldo was the top scorer, but Ramos regularly played as a centre-forward for the ast 10minutes of games when Real were struggling to get a winner - or even needing an equalizer!! Ronaldo scored multiple goals in easy games but he wasn't the player winning them the points in tougher matches or getting them through the Champions League knock-out stages.
The Ballon d'Or is constantly seeming more and more rigged by the sponsors and story writers.
Henry should have won it instead they gave Nedved
@@rodgerjohnson297 the season your talking about Arsenal only won the FA cup. Juventus won Serie A, the Supercoppa Italia, and reached the Champions League final. Nedved was key too all of that, and Juventus would've had a stronger chance in the final against A.C. Milan if Nedved hadn't been suspended.
The previous year Henry possibly deserved it more than Brazilian Ronaldo, since Arsenal had won a League and Cup double, while R9 won the award based on the world cup - which is only 7matches played.
That said, Henry didn't even get the PFA award in 2002, van Nistelrooy got it that season... then Henry got it the following season despite Man Utd winning the Premiership and van Nistelrooy scoring more than he had the previous year.
Henry possibly deserved it more than Shevchenko in 2004 considering Arsenal went undefeated in the Premiership. But I'd say Nedved deserved the 2003 award as much as anyone.
Many say lewa did bad internationally bcz of his bad team yet messi was able to carry a dying barca. Lewa had most goals but messi had most assists, key passes, dribbles, chances created.
Lewa is the perfect striker today… but messi can’t be categorized as a striker he plays like a midfielder yet he’s able to keep up with goals of players who play like pure number 9s.
For me lewa must get his 2020 one way or another but messi deserved 2021
The Ballon D'or is all about POLITICS and MARKETING. Ronaldo said as much in his recent statement.
This shouldn’t even be a debate.
Yes lewandowski deserved it
Fun Fact : Messi and Ronaldo have the 18% of the Ballon D'ors ever given
Lewa did deserve it last year. But honestly, I think that this year, the fans are just with the sentiment that he is owed a Ballon D’Or. he was a no show for Poland in the euros. And you can only judge a player from what you see on the pitch. Messi had a stellar year which is kinda normal from his standards, he added a copa América which he completely dominated.
I think the award going either way would have been fair and I also believe it outrageous to say Messi did not rightfully deserve it.
wdym no show for Poland in the euros, in 3 games there he still managed to score 3 goals, in a match vs Sweden he was quite literally playing alone, this argument that Lewandowski didn't do anything exceptional on euro 2020 is stupid for me 'cause he did,
it's just Polish national team who sucks while Messi in Argentina has players like Dybala, Martinez, Di Maria etc.
@@donkey2293 Bruv, do you even watch football? Dybala wasn't even on Argentina squad. And also you're argument that if only Lewa had a good team like Messi can be used with the Barcelona team too like do you not think Messi would win everything with that Bayern squad? Plus the Copa America is an international trophy and it's competition is tough but of course you didn't watch the Copa America so you're gonna say that they didn't have to face tough European sides but instead they faced shitty opponents from Countries that are not Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, or Colombia.
@@narrow3601 first of all i didn't say copa america is easy but it's surely easier then euro also i am absolutely sure you don't watch football as well if you're comparing Polish national team to fucking barcelona, of course it's not the same barca as it was in 2015 but still it is a good team
@@donkey2293 I'm not f*cking comparing a sh*t Polish team to Barca I'm saying that Barca is trash and it just shows and how is Barcelona Right now a good team?
Lewy defo deserved it. Messi had a great year for sure, but Lewy was simply insane
We need a ballon d’ or for attackers, midfielders, and defenders
The man who helps his teams more deserves to win the D'or.
By: Simple As That
Wilfred Zaha deserves the ballondor for helping his team to most.
Source: Andre Smalls
@@ajanthony1356 😂😂😂
How has pele not won the award he is still scoring against his grand children in his garden and is top scorer.
By the time the voting ended:
Stats:
-Messi: 40 goals, 14 assists.
-Lewy: 54 goals, 8 assists.
Awards:
-Messi: 4
-Lewy: 3
Trophies:
-Messi: Copa America, Copa del rey
-Lewandowski: Bundesliga, German supercup & CWC
I am not sure why y'all surprised. The winnner is very deserving according to the criteria. He has that international trophy that is hugely valued, compared to supercups and CWCs which are not very important in the criteria. France Football values trophies a lot, and having more prestigious trophies won Messi the award. If there was a problem (which there is), it's in the criteria not in the award. It's been shitty like this for 66 years. Y'all should stop considering the Ballon d'Or as a "best player of the year award" because it simply isn't.
Ok lewandowski still deserved it tho
@@King-qr1ck for 2020
"He has international trophy that is hugely valued" but Iniesta's World cup wasn't valued. So why now? Also Modric won without winning any international trophy.
(Btw I do agree with you on that last statement)
Bro can you make a video about reus that would be cool, just a request
Bruh!! Killed me at farmers ligue 1😂😂😂😭😭
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Messi deserved it. He won Copa for Argentina - first year in 20 years. Munich wins Bundesliga every year.
Props on you for giving a diplomatic answer.
Edit: i still do believe that Messi didnt deserve this years and last years award, because Lewandowski did produce better numbers, and his flair was pretty stellar.
When you compare all the numbers, example the carrying of BARCa, passes, vision. I first thought it was ridiculous messi won but when I saw the detailed stats, I realised messi had a small edge
@@liodoesmc1298 Lewandowski had him beat in goal involvements
@@bleh4352 wait, I'll link you the video
TBH I always thought the award was given out to top goal scorer
but now I just remembered that's what the golden boot is for as I was typing
The Copa America is all well and good, but not a determining factor imo. Despite the precedent that has been set. I can't see any other reason for Messi to be in the frame.
It's all about reputations. The records will reflect what Robert Lewandowski achieved over the last few seasons, regardless. It's a crying shame. People abusing their power.
Factos
Can you do a video on Fran Kirby?
MESSI deserves the Ballon d'Or.
Both of them are deserving candidates.
It’s an utter joke they didn’t give Lewandowski the award for 2020.
Yeah like is it that hard to give the man his rightfully earned 2020 Ballon D'or?
I'm gonna be honest I think Messi did deserve the Ballon D'or this year and everyone who won it deserves it but I'm gonna be honest I never saw any value in this award because at the end of the day this award is just an opinion, it's a bias created by Journalist to please themselves with really no other goal and while I do think Messi and Ronaldo were the best players in the world from 2008-2019 and absolutely deserved each of their Ballon D'or wins I still have never and I don't think I ever will see what the Value of the Ballon D'or is or if it holds any at all
Yep agreed
Messi and Ronaldo didn't deserve all their ballon dor
@@siduarah3911 okay you can argue 2010 and 2013 but what other year did they not deserve their Ballon D'or
@@narrow3601 dont sweat it pal, he been growing watching mbappe
Lol let's see even fifa will give Messi their award at January...
more footballer profiles pls
i never seen that striker of the year award before its like they were saying you know who deserved it lew
I’m gonna be brutally honest Odegard deserved the Ballon D’or
No Cristiano deserved this year . He should get 10 ballon Dor's and pele should get 50 ballon Dor's because they scored most goals in history
@@rome316ae3 r/soccercirclejerk
No Ibrahim Sangare deserved Ballon Dor because he's a legend of Tifo Football
@@rome316ae3 lol🤡
Shit jokr
I'm really curious as to why are there awards for Best Strikers, Best GK but no awards for best Defender or Midfielder? Can someone explaine?
Lol I don't think anyone except France football can explain
As long as Messi is playing, he deserves the award. They just need to have two awards and give one to Messi and the player that had the best year.
The most prestigious award given to a footballer many players wish to even get 1 and now it loses it value coz of just cr7 his just a player in 20 to 30 yrs they will be even better players whoever has more is the best player.
Great video as usual my guy, and as is tradition that like button is getting smashed today.👌
I know you know that's not what I meant so don't even.😑
Thanks 😂
Short answer : LEWANGOALSKI
Right now it seems it doesnt matter cause messi and ronaldo have been splitting it the last 13 years but trust once they retire its gonna get important really quick
This is a really good point actually
@@FootballIconic thanks bro
Is it time to make a video about Kaka? I'm desperately want to see this video. He was a magical player
hey tinashe i was hoping you would make a video about lev yashin sometime, ik he’s really old but whatever info you can provide with your wonderful articulation would be lovely
thank you :)
Lewandowski robbed twice in a row....that has definitely tainted the rest of credibility this award had left.
FFS they gave him a cardboard trophy as consolation 😂
Already lost its credibility when Ribery was robbed in 2013
@@haridj8532 messi was seen crying after some random guy on the internet said that ballon d'or has lost its value. So sad
The thing is we have advance stats that were made to pointing individual impact on the game more accurately than just saying 'he has more goals, he has more assists'. And Messi was indeed on top of Lewandowski for every major category except Goals per 90, while at the same time having literally half the score of Messi in "GCA". Which stands for "Goal-creating actions".
This wasn't the best year Messi have had for sure, but you can acknowledge this while comparing him to himself, he has made people so accustomed to win by a big margin, that when he wins by a little bit people go nuts.
I agree people hold him to a higher standard. But my point was that even with all of that, comparing them on stats when their roles, positions, leagues and surroundings are different is not concrete at all.
@@FootballIconic I get your point, and I'm also aware that even if stats and numbers are objective, the voter's interpretation of them as which category is more important than other, is subjective. That said I think the award could have been given to any of them two.
@@MrMMAJER only one
If messi didn't win I would have lost faith cause I have been following this year so closely
Do you know what the Gerd Müller record was?
This video would have been appropriate in 2013, when someone won the Bdor without having won zero trophies.