Why Hikers have been getting Hadrians Wall Wrong?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 05. 2024
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0:00 The Problem With Hadrians Wall Walk
1:15 Start of the Walk
2:59 Arriving into the city
5:39 Hadrian's Wall in the City Centre
8:22 Shield's Road and The Fossway
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this walk shows the true route of Hadrians wall from Heddon-on the wall to Wallsend. The official tourist route takes you down to the river Tyne. which is hundreds of metres away from the actual route of the wall.
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Love your channel, the abandoned building on West Road was the General Hospital nurses home which was accessed from the hospital via a tunnel which ran under the West Road
then it turned into shelter for asylem seekers me and my mum was placed into that building in around 2003 when we first moved to newcastle and it was enormous and you could get easily lost in it so easily, I was deffo convinced it was haunted when I was a kid
It was called Angel Heights.
you missed out a major part of the wall hidden at the bottom of the street opp the mast behind the old dole office, you also missed the temple which is also behind the dole office but at the top of another street.
Indeed the Temple in Benwell is worth a visit X8GQ+F3 Newcastle upon Tyne, UK also the area know as the Vallum is named after the massive earthwork which ran alongside the wall through most of it's length. At the Vallum crossing you can see the remains of the crossing and and a re-excavated section of the Vallum
I live on The Roman Way, the street you walked down parallel to the A69. Hadrianâs Wall runs underneath my living room.
You missed out "Denhill Park" Vallum Crossing and 'Boomridge Avenue' temple. Another great video Jordan
Thanks Michael, didnât realise I missed out those things. Cheers for pointing them out
There's also a small section of the wall in the petrol station at Denton burn - easily missed đ great video!!
You are a godsend. I will be visiting the UK in September 2022, and I have struggled to find information on how to see Hadrian's Wall. Newcastle looks beautiful, and I will definitely try to get there and walk through the city on the wall route you outlined. Thank you. Excellently done.
Glad you enjoyed the video mate! Newcastle is a beautiful city. Although I didnât visit the riverside in this video. Itâs definitely worth checking out
Hi Jordan, there has been a bit of a hoo haw at the moment as NCL councillors have said the route should be remapped to include the Westend and Byker as the âofficialâ route doesnât actually follow the true route of Hadrians wall! Sad but true as people will miss the temple and gateway will be missed by walkers!
Itâs a difficult one as the walk down by the river is more scenic but misses a lot of historic value
Insightful and informative Jordan......well done for compiling and putting the content together.
Thanks Graham
Great Video, There is an area of the wall that I don't think has been mentioned on this route. It is just outside the Miners Institute, next to the Lit & Phil, on Neville street
Thanks for pointing this out, I realised I missed this part
The abandoned building on West Road is Angel Heights. Was nurses accommodation serving the old general hospital, and in more recent years was used to house asylum seekers
You Are Correct.
đ thanks was wondering myself
Yep Nurses quarters and as a young man it was my dream to somehow get in !!!
I walked the national trail with friends this summer and I actually did eschew the "official route" to follow the line of the wall through Newcastle just as in this video, so you could say we did it properly! In fact this very issue was debated in parliament earlier this year after Newcastle Central MP Chi Onwura managed to secure a debate on the topic.
I have lived in wallsend all my life and the Roman wall continues further on than the fort at the end of your video. It actually goes on into wallsend park and I dnt know if it still there but as a kid when I used to play in wallsend park the wall was always exposed and you could see the remains of the wall . As they have done all of work in the wallsend park over the years I dnt no if they have covered the Roman wall back over and buried it back . I know this as a kid I found 3 Roman coins there years ago sitting by the wall . Great stuff loved your documentary. Brill đ
It's quite common for defensive walls to have been removed and replaced by a boulevard. In fact, the word boulevard comes from the old French word which means a defensive embankment. That's why cities like Paris have concentric roads in the city. When the city would outgrow its walls, they would tear them down and build a new defensive wall further out and make the old wall into a road. Hadrian's wall being turned into a road follows that same idea.
Thatâs a real interesting point Lance, Iâve heard they did the same in Vienna
Having lived in Newcastle previously for 30 years recently I decided to undertake the Hadrian's Wall trial - Wallsend to Solway What I would tell you is, knowing the area, wild horses would not drag me to walk the actual route over the track of the wall in Newcastle center and surrounds. The trail route is much better and more interesting in reality.
Nice video... Good idea to show that the " official route " is NOT on Hadrians Wall... IMO, if people REALLY are interested in the Wall, then they should do their homework properly, and make sure that they are aware that the Wall runs next to the A69, and along Westgate Road, and then along to Wallsend... NOT along the Riverside !!!!... I cannot believe that many Wall walkers are being misled by this nonsense... Keep up the good work, Jordan...
Newcastle has some beautiful architecture, I'm cycling the route 72 but one day I will do the walk on foot to be closer to the wall and I shall be taking your route through the City, thanks for this Jordan
you didnt show the end of the wall which can be seen from the old railway line which runs behind segadunum and is now a walk way.
Cant help but think something is waiting to be discovered on that big roundabout before Newcastle shopping park. It's such a commanding view it would be crazy not to hold it!
Hi Jordan really enjoy the channel. I was born in Garth heads (The Dwellings) most of my family where local to the battlefield, Shield field. I remember from research a long while back that the Wall runs right along the back yard of Garth Heads.
They is one more you missed out over the road from Wallsend Fort is a bit of roman wall cheers
Thanks for pointing this out Philip !
I have to admit. Anything other than the original wall walk is just fake and shouldnât be allowed. Thanks Jordan
Well, allowed, be my guest, whatever floats people's boats. But should it be promoted by the city? Absolutely not.
Smashing channel mate . The tower is in the shape of a Roman helmet
Thatâs a great fact!
You missed the Vallum behind the west Road in the housing estate
I was part of the team working on the Hadrians Way project and st the time there was a lot of discussion about the route and it's departure from Hadrians wall. Basically the project was a tourism initiative incorporating railway reclamation funding from the EU rather than a purely archaeological one. Also I think there were safety concerns around funnelling large numbers of pedestrians along routes used by heavy traffic. Another point that came up was the fact that the riverside and railway route was much easier to use as it avoided the steep hills of the actual wall route though this was not a critical point. Personally i see no problem with signing the split so the more historically minded can choose to plough straight through the city centre. It's been more than 20 years now so maybe it's time to revisit the original concept? No EU funding anymore mind you.
I appreciate the response Graeme, I totally understand the choice to go down the river as it is a much better route away from heavy traffic. Even today I think it would be a hard argument to change the route to westgate road. However saw it best to make those not aware of the route being diverted away from the wall to go and experience this part of the route
there is part of the wall thats visable in the burn just opp the farm on other side of water
It's ridiculous that the official route misses so much of the wall remains, the A69 followed the original line from Heddon when we used to travel it in the 60s/70s.
Strange thing is hadrians wall at Wallsend shoots down to and into the river Tyne and supposedly had a temple and statue to neptune on it
what you are not saying is if you go into Wallsend shipyard you will find the last roman fort that belonged to the wall check it out.
Good film Jordan, as usual.
You, and others, might be interested in an event at the Lit & Phil on Thur evening 21st July:
"Ganninâ Alang the Wall: The Real Route of Hadrian's Wall from Segedunum through Central Newcastle." 30min film and informal discussion afterwards.
Sorry don't seem to be allowed to post a link.
Thanks for the recommendation, I was looking at attending this but tickets appear to be sold out
@@JordanReeve Hopefully they'll repeat it sometime. Or its probably worth phoning or calling in to ask if they have a waiting list for tickets that might become available thru cancellations.
That was a fascinating historic document. For some reason I always imagined the wall as being the actual border between England and Scotland and am surprised to find how it runs directly through Newcastle. So I'm now the wiser, ta. PS: the music bits could have been a bit longer.
Presumably, the Romans were also a bit allergic to Geordies.
Thanks noted about the music parts, will increase them in future
The route is *probably* going to be switched to this reasonably soon. When it was first designed they didn't want people walking through Scotswood & Elwick for obvious reasons.
I personally pronounce Segedunum as Seg-a-done-um but its probably wrong. The way you first pronounce it is well.... how do i put it...
Very interesting video.
Thanks Alfie!
Did you not stop for a pint in The Milecastle on Westgate Road?
Looking at the official route map, the wall near enough ran beneath my back garden. Better get the metal detector out!
The wall is apparently just below the surface by a few metres. So would be interesting to check with a metal detector
Interestingly, the piece of supposed Wall foundation next to the roundabout on Shields Road, behind Edinburgh Bike Coop, is in fact a fake and not the real thing (it fooled me the first time I saw it but I know a guy who knew the guy who craftily built it!).
You missed several bits......đ still on view!
Its sad the buildings we used to make where so much more beautiful than the modern throwaway crap we put up these days. The Town Hall in South Shields is a great example of how unskilled our builders and architects have become over the decades.
I can see my house đ
best keep the route as is, if you go west gate road you will think your in pakistan, or deli etc.youl get robbed, are best get dropped off at heddon on the wall and skip wallsend and ncle, i drive that route military road heddon on the wall to chollerford
you missed two bits out
The abandoned building you passed was originally the residential property for the medical staff of newcastle general hospital . Most of which is now demolished . Then it was used for immigrants housing whilst awaiting their applications for residency into britain . The CLOSED it after the immigrants rioted and demolished the internals , because they wanted more rights and money . . You also missed the roman temple which was to your right on the brow of the hill , beside the tower you pointed out further back up west road . The swing bridge now stands on the exact straight line as the original roman bridge . . Pons ailias . .