Cotton Fire Roll (No Filler) 1st Success After 10 Years
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Fire rolling unfilled cotton is an exercise in futility for 2 reasons. First, they are very difficult to ignite. It took me 10 years and 100s of cotton balls to achieve my first success.
Secondly, when you finally do get it to ignite, you still only have a very weak ember to work with. Cotton embers do not intensify very well so you'll really struggle to make normal tinder go to flames. You’re going to have to add a coal extender to your tinder bundle. LOL!!! The best way to have used that coal extender would have been to put in the cotton fire roll first. It makes an easier ignition, produces a viable very hot ember, and then can easily make your tinder bundle to flames.
This video demonstration will prove these issues. By The Way, later that day I tried more with this technique and only got 3 ignitions out of 20 tries. It's just not worth the effort and wasted materials.
Boggycreekbeast is the best fire roller on the planet. I’m sure that he can ignite unfilled cotton and utilize the ember much easier than Ican. DO check out his channel for amazing fire roll combinations that he has discovered and developed, and for his many other incredible fire making demos!
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Fire rolling unfilled cotton is an exercise in futility for 2 reasons. First, they are very difficult to ignite. It took me 10 years and 100s of cotton balls to achieve my first success.
Secondly, when you finally do get it to ignite, you still only have a very weak ember to work with. Cotton embers do not intensify very well so you'll really struggle to make normal tinder go to flames. You’re going to have to add a coal extender to your tinder bundle. LOL!!! The best way to have used that coal extender would have been to put in the cotton fire roll first. It makes an easier ignition, produces a viable very hot ember, and then can easily make your tinder bundle to flames.
This video demonstration will prove these issues. By The Way, later that day I tried more with this technique and only got 3 ignitions out of 20 tries. It's just not worth the effort and wasted materials.
Boggycreekbeast is the best fire roller on the planet. I’m sure that he can ignite unfilled cotton and utilize the ember much easier than Ican. DO check out his channel for amazing fire roll combinations that he has discovered and developed, and for his many other incredible fire making demos!
Please follow the LINK below and SUBSCRIBE. Thank You!
Rudiger Roll, Fire Roll Playlist
czcams.com/play/PLkoXX8XsMW3kLMA7kY_LznhzK5nOrA3Wd.html
Doesn't matter, in the end you did it. A journey of 10,000 meters begins with a single step. You did it! Very happy to see it is possible. Now I'll have to try.
Thanks William!
Just made my first bow drill fire at 62 yrs. old. This is the best channel on tv, not just CZcams. Watch him every night! Thanks for your work David West.
It's a fun hobby. Thank you!
Outstanding! I'm glad that I was able to witness your first success!
Meee too!
Congratulations from Canada, I've been watching your videos for years!
I’ll remember you. Thanks friend!
Congratulations on your perseverance!!
Well done! It's amazing the difference it makes when you add a bit of ashes to it like you do. Now I know why. Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
David you really are the master of fire. Learned a LOT from your hundreds of videos. I suspect the filler in the cotton roll aids to keep it from getting too tight around the ember? Your 'picking apart' technique is genius. A couple of experimental techniques I wanted to share with you that I've stumbled upon in recent weeks that you may or may not have tried before: "Green Wood Scrapings Tinder Bundle".. If you peel the bark off a rolling pin thick section of LIVE green wood and scrape the freshly exposed wood, the moisture present makes long, thin shavings that have a puffy, foamy texture. It's possible to make a softball sized ball of shavings in under a minute, especially if you use the edge of your mora at a 90 degree angle as opposed to the spine. These shavings dry out in minutes in the sun and can be used as a great, high volume, low effort tinder bundle. If you loosely reverse wrap these shavings into a thumb thick cord, the end will smolder for a long time when lit and then blown out. Hung so the ember is on the bottom, a foot will smolder for an hour and a half! Great for fire transport and also as a moveable bug repellent. I also found that the charred end, extinguished in aluminum foil, will take a spark from flint and steel and can be used like char cloth with the rope lying on the flint. I used willow for my test but I've tried several woods and they all seem to make good long puffy shavings. Hope you find these experimental techniques as intriguing as I do! We'll catch you on the next one, God bless
That’s interesting, but I’ve got lots of other things I’m more interested in. Make a video about such. I will surly watch it.
Congratulations David, thanks for sharing YAH bless !
😮 nice work Dave.
Good job David! A lot of moisture in those leaves and probably even the concrete since it is so humid.
True, a lot of factors in play with all fire making techniques.
Thanks David for the tutorial. Congratulations as that was pretty amazing. As for me, think I'll try something simpler; like waiting for lightning to strike a nearby tree.
While you’re waiting, don’t forget to bring an umbrella! 😄
Hi David! It is so hot that the blue jay is blowing on the worm before he eats it!
In the sun's fierce glow, a blue jay's delight,
He blows on the worm to cool his bite.
Oh now you’re just showing off! LOL Well done!! Thanks for sharing this with us.
I’m attracting attention by conspicuous behavior, again.
LOL
What a amazing video Mr west I truly appreciate you sharing that one 👌👍🔥
My pleasure!
Good for you David! I am one of those on the planet that has tried and have given up. Pretty sure my friction technique is what I would use. It's amazing how much filler material makes the difference. It makes sense though....physics and science at play. Hats off to you Mr. West!
Yes friction and chemical reaction.
fine video, Mr. fire roll
Thank you kindly!
Just seems like the right conditions 🔥😂😂😂😎🇨🇱❤
Seems so, but everything in every way has been tried by me over the last decade. I didn’t realize that I needed to use the “tear into the fire roll” technique more than I had already done.
I think you would love a pocket bellow (retractable straws) and explore bellows in general. Box bellows are pretty cool.
I get that recommendation a lot. I don't want to use them.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl I was wondering if it was the origin of native flutes. Just wanting to blow from a distance and eventually making a note. May I ask why you don't want to? Just extra items/steps?
David....have you ever played around with dandelion seeds and cut tail pods. Both do pretty well as fire material when taking a spark.
No.
wow, congrats sir that is awesome. do you think the fire roll has any validity in a real lost in the wilderness scenario if you only have a knife, for example picking a bunch of cotton lint from your socks/other cotton clothes and splitting a log so you have 2 flat boards? if you were hypothetically in a lost wilderness scenario with just a knife i assume a hand drill method would be your go to, or would you cut a strip from your shirt to try to use as a bow drill string?
There is no situation where I wouldn't have my pocket knife, ferro rod, wallet Fresnel Lens, and BIC. THAT's the whole point and why it's called EDC. Thanks friend.
Hello David.
Until now I had always believed that commercial cotton (sanitary or for human use) could not be used without any additive for the production of fire by the "fire roll" system. I think I should retract some of my statements in this regard.
A few years ago I turned to cotton flower (natural flower, not industrially processed) and it really worked without additives, which seemed to reinforce my theory: "The processing that cotton undergoes for sanitary use is the cause of its uselessness to light a fire through this system".
This is the video:
czcams.com/video/6SfUPDDxFrI/video.htmlsi=PEm1Vpzr8lCitD
Today I see that I was wrong.
Good video. You have achieved what I thought impossible.
Greetings
Not a reliable technique. After 20 more tries, I only got 3 ignitions.
You made that look too easy - Like you've been doing just like that for years.! Do you suppose it's because of the ambient temp being so high (not sure what your temp was at the time of the video). Do you suppose it would've worked on a cooler day..?
I needed to figure out and make better use of the “tearing into the fire roll” technique.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Desperation efforts sometimes succeeds, congratulations on persistence. Was that table completely clean?
Not insanity. People I believe have made videos of it working. Clean table.
Funny thing about concrete.I just tried in concrete now and then i saw your video..i didn't manage to make the cotton hot enough..I tried with ash and also with iron oxide.. It's obvious ash it's better but still no succes ..Seems easy .Not so easy .
Cat tail....not cut!
No, everything logical has already been tried.