Maggie Flashback Season 3 Daredevil

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  • @a-bomb3769
    @a-bomb3769 Před 5 lety +745

    In the 1st season, when Jack was talking to someone on the phone in the gym, turns out he was calling Maggie to tell her to look after Matt when he's away

    • @draxthedestroyer3384
      @draxthedestroyer3384 Před 4 lety +65

      Well, everyone knew that even before season 3.

    • @LetsPlayArcanium
      @LetsPlayArcanium Před 3 lety +39

      Drax the Destroyer actually no I didn’t figure it out till after. I’ve always been pretty slow at picking things up in shows lol

    • @Impersonal66
      @Impersonal66 Před 3 lety +54

      Well, she did a great job at looking after Matt LMAO

    • @a-bomb3769
      @a-bomb3769 Před 3 lety

      @@Impersonal66 yeah she did

    • @fgnnl4204
      @fgnnl4204 Před 3 lety +7

      I mean I figured it was his mom but I didn't think it would be maggie.

  • @cometmoon4485
    @cometmoon4485 Před 3 lety +679

    It's interesting that Jack decided to raise Matt as a Catholic, despite his nun mother not actually being present during his upbringing.

    • @thewave3603
      @thewave3603 Před 3 lety +149

      Jack wanted what's best for his son and raised him as Catholic so at some point in life he can reconcile with his mom in the future which worked. Aside from that Jack raised Matt in an unorthodox environment where he was surrounded by dealers and etc... Jack knew if Matt stayed in that environment he'd adapt to the worse so there the Catholic was the better option.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Před 3 lety +5

      Doesn't suprise me at all.

    • @HPGIRL1109
      @HPGIRL1109 Před 3 lety +54

      I mean I think Jack was irish catholic anyways

    • @unitedstatesofamerica9948
      @unitedstatesofamerica9948 Před 2 lety +21

      He was already Catholic himself

    • @Eraziels
      @Eraziels Před 2 lety +16

      I mean....Jack is an Irish dude in New York....he's probably Catholic lol

  • @galactic85
    @galactic85 Před 5 lety +684

    3 minutes! They show the audience everything we need to know about Maggie and Jack's relationship in the span of 3 minutes! Amazing storytelling!

    • @nicwtf
      @nicwtf Před 4 lety +23

      4 Minutes*

    • @sureyeah3678
      @sureyeah3678 Před 2 lety +6

      @@nicwtf Maggie agrees with Jack at 0:54 , where i think their relationship starts, and the flashback ended at 3:54
      So yeah, 3 minutes

    • @nicwtf
      @nicwtf Před 2 lety

      @@sureyeah3678 bro this was 2 years ago

    • @shade08538
      @shade08538 Před rokem +2

      @@nicwtf and the Odyssey was written 3 millennia ago, what else is new :P

    • @tylergalvez5033
      @tylergalvez5033 Před rokem +8

      BETTER STORY THAN TWILIGHT!

  • @lastlife0726
    @lastlife0726 Před 3 lety +372

    No one did anything wrong, but once she was stable Matt deserved better than to be thrown to the wind. He was right to be angry about this.

    • @PurpledaisyShasta
      @PurpledaisyShasta Před 3 lety +57

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the other nuns used her fragile state to manipulate her into rejoin the order. It wouldn’t be the first time churches manipulated fragile people

    • @Huhmasta
      @Huhmasta Před 2 lety +1

      Matt wasn’t thrown into the wind, he was just never told his mom was alive or who she was. Maggie and the priest in fact raised him ever since jack died

    • @CH-zc8qx
      @CH-zc8qx Před 2 lety +25

      ​@@Huhmasta He was raised as an orphan and never shown a mother's love despite her being right there. I get she has post-partum, but what about after she recovered and Jack died? Matt had always believed himself an orphan. Other people know him as an orphan and treat him like one. For all he knew, he was alone in the world. So yeah, he was totally thrown into the wind.

    • @boot5672
      @boot5672 Před 2 lety +4

      @@CH-zc8qx facts

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Před 2 lety +10

      @@PurpledaisyShasta The writers screwed up this story so much. Maggie wasn't a nun. She was a regular young woman married to Jack and both of them were Catholic though not devout. This is why I hated the series' depiction of Maggie. In the comics, Maggie suffered from post-partum psychosis and was going to harm Matt when in a moment of clarity realized what she was doing and fled before she could harm her own baby. Maggie lived in the streets and didn't want to go back. She was found by the Church, taken in, cared for, and sent to a therapist until she was well enough to go back home. People don't understand the stigma that women with post-partum depression and psychosis went through in those days. Maggie's guilt prevented her from going home to Matt. Not the nuns interfering or the Church and it's sad that this series chose to depict it that way when that wasn't what happened in the comics. Maggie's fear of harming her son was just too much and so she joined the Church, hoping that she would seek penance for her failings. She became an activist--diverting all her efforts to help women in her situation and etc. In the end, Matt and Maggie did reconcile in the most beautiful way. When Maggie asked for forgiveness for failing her son, Matt said: "Oh. Failing. Right. You mean by pulling yourself up out of a suicidal depression by faith and sheer force of will to become a force of good on this planet? We should all fail so tragically."
      This was such a brilliant story in the comics that I don't know why this was bungled so badly by the writers. The title of the comics is "Original Sin" and from the Mark Waid run of DD (2014).

  • @VaneWalker
    @VaneWalker Před rokem +71

    The age gap is intentional. The nun Maggie, a pious naïve young Woman, became seduced by a bringer of violence. A boxer, Jack a matured and well weathered Man whose life subsist of brutish bloodsport. He asked for help and she, in her good nature, helped him. Its a relationship you're not supposed to feel comfortable with. Maggie wasn't, she felt like she abandoned god and committed horrible sin. An angel, seduced by the Devil and raising his son. This family would have never worked and that's part of what makes up the tragedy of the life of Matt Murdock.

    • @Farhankazmi.06
      @Farhankazmi.06 Před rokem +8

      You get it.

    • @magallanesagustin4952
      @magallanesagustin4952 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Best explanation ever! 👏 👏 👏 👏

    • @Jay-cy3wt
      @Jay-cy3wt Před 3 měsíci +3

      Love it. That’s why I love this show. Matt Murdock is literally the child of an Angel and The Devil. And it was the Angel who left while the Devil stayed to raise him. And he raised him in the (mostly) right path.

  • @gaylordmacmillis5728
    @gaylordmacmillis5728 Před 3 lety +163

    For some reason, Jack was a better father. He told Matt to make good decisions and didn’t stare at a wall all day

  • @adityathakur8481
    @adityathakur8481 Před 3 lety +89

    This symbolises how Matt and Fisk are different. Fisk's mom supported him because they both knew what they did, they knew that they killed a person and had no pain in it. While Matt's mother left him which troubled her for her whole life, she could never bring herself to see or talk to her son again because she felt pain.

    • @NJohnsonProductions
      @NJohnsonProductions Před rokem

      I wouldn't say the men characters, per say, are different because of the women characters, but the moms are different and the trauma/importance of both influential people in their lives helped them grow to be the same, better men.

  • @theintunity
    @theintunity Před 3 lety +268

    Maggie looks 16 and Jack Murdock looks like 32. This episode made their relationship feel really weird to me.

  • @13jonash
    @13jonash Před 5 lety +239

    0:05 I could swear someone yells “Spider-Man!”

    • @redram7252
      @redram7252 Před 5 lety +39

      Holy Shit!!! You're right, I hear it now too Lol 😄.

    • @ig-1161
      @ig-1161 Před 4 lety +24

      Director didn’t say it but this scene was filmed in the same ring but bevor the cage fight in the first Spider-Man. Next thing you know the cage comes down and tobey beats this punk up lmao

    • @mr.dystopian5554
      @mr.dystopian5554 Před 4 lety +30

      It's the Human Spider. You got it all wrong.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Před 3 lety +4

      Well Charlie Cox did film his scenes for No Way Home already.

    • @moegamadebraheemfredericks6557
      @moegamadebraheemfredericks6557 Před 2 lety

      Scene really

  • @gozerthegozarian9500
    @gozerthegozarian9500 Před 2 lety +85

    Poor woman! Post-partum depression is absolute hell, and even today, help is hard to get. How much harder was it back then? I feel for her, for Jack and for little Matt.

  • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
    @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Před 4 lety +269

    2:30 God must've told her that child would become the Devil. She misunderstood what that meant.

  • @pepehorhae
    @pepehorhae Před 5 lety +241

    That last part with lantom and jack staring at each other, to me that was symbolic of 2 sides of the same coin for matt. The supposed angels (lantom and maggie) left matt with a demon (or THE devil which is his father) and all this time matt struggled growing up as what hell was supposed to be. His own devil grew but his part of being an angel also grew (when he was in the school with lantom). He saw his dad doing the devil's work and so he did daily grinds at school and fighting other kids but deep down he has this conscience of which angels give him at the end of the day.
    Father figures too play parts in his life. His dad taught him to have heart and keep on going, Lantom taught him to have a conscience and fight his inner self and Stick taught him to fight and toughen up and beat enemies up.
    Its sad to think that one would really turn up as the devil when you come from a tragedy just as the biblical devil did too. Its good matt took up the mantle and be our favorite guardian devil

    • @jaystonwilliams9370
      @jaystonwilliams9370 Před 3 lety +3

      Since when did the biblical devil come from poverty?? That’s 🧢 Lucifer wanted to be like God after already having been made the best and brightest ángel. He rebelled against his Creator and got kicked out of heaven with the other fallen angels who followed him. He knows he loses in the end. He knows he’s destined to eternal damnation and he wants to take as many with him as possible. Let’s not trick ourselves into thinking that Satan should be sympathized with. He’s a spoiled entitled diva brat who doesnt want to burn alone. He snd all his followers deserves what’s coming to them why? Because they denied the free gift of salvation that God gives through Christ’s sacrifice. Let’s not believe Satan’s lies friend.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Před 3 lety +3

      Perhaps she went into shock because God told her that Matt would become the Devil. She had no idea what he meant.

  • @kingolo97
    @kingolo97 Před 3 lety +82

    Never read the comics but when I watched the Daredevil movie, I always wondered what happened to Matt's mother. I'm glad they explained it in the show

  • @DreSama336
    @DreSama336 Před 2 lety +34

    Matt get’s his stoicism from his mom. She kept Jack in the dark about her postpartum like how he kept Foggy and Karen about Daredevil.

  • @captainsilver9165
    @captainsilver9165 Před rokem +14

    At the very least jack took responsibility for Matt and raised him the best he could

  • @rumblefish9
    @rumblefish9 Před 2 lety +21

    The writers screwed up this story so much. Maggie wasn't a nun. She was a regular young woman married to Jack and both of them were Catholic though not devout. This is why I hated the series' depiction of Maggie. In the comics, Maggie suffered from post-partum psychosis (the worst kind) and was going to harm Matt when in a moment of clarity realized what she was doing and fled before she could harm her own baby. Maggie lived in the streets and didn't want to go back. She was found by the Church, taken in, cared for, and sent to a therapist until she was well enough to go back home. People don't understand the stigma that women with post-partum depression and psychosis went through in those days. Maggie's guilt prevented her from going home to Matt. Her fear of harming her son was just too much and so she joined the Church, hoping that she would seek penance for her failings in other ways. She became an activist--diverting all her efforts to help women and others in her situation and etc. In the end, Matt and Maggie did reconcile in the most beautiful way. When Maggie asked for forgiveness for failing her son, Matt said: "Oh. Failing. Right. You mean by pulling yourself up out of a suicidal depression by faith and sheer force of will to become a force of good on this planet? We should all fail so tragically."
    This was such a brilliant story in the comics that I don't know why this was bungled so badly by the writers of this show. The title is "Original Sin" and from the Mark Waid run of DD (2014) if anyone is interested. This issue was praised by Psychology Today for its depiction and handling of postpartum depression and psychosis.

    • @anon9060
      @anon9060 Před rokem

      Except that wasn't in Frank Miller's run of DD Born Again which was where we learn about Maggie being Matthew's mother. Waid's run was just an addition onto something that the show wasn't adapting.

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Před rokem +2

      @@anon9060 The show has taken inspiration from all the runs of DD, not just Miller's run. In Miller's run, Matt had an inkling that Maggie was his mom but the full story was never revealed until 30 years later in Mark Waid's run.

    • @anon9060
      @anon9060 Před rokem

      @@rumblefish9 it's fairly obvious that she was his mother though.

    • @Oskar0424
      @Oskar0424 Před 10 měsíci

      Maggie explains to Karen later in the episode "that she was a danger to Matthew"

  • @trevturp7687
    @trevturp7687 Před 5 lety +88

    Maggie didn’t say goodbye to Jack and decided not to take her son with her, until Jack was murdered and Father Paul Lantom and Jack didn’t say anything to her.

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA Před 2 lety +14

    Matt never asked to be born and was abandoned.
    Fisk was a killer and his mother covered up for him.

  • @dr.s8972
    @dr.s8972 Před rokem +5

    Damn Maggie was a snack back in the day

  • @shauna.a8701
    @shauna.a8701 Před 2 lety +11

    1:23 Looks exactly like Matt

  • @gaylordmacmillis5728
    @gaylordmacmillis5728 Před 3 lety +16

    And yes, Jack was 28-29 during the time

  • @Impersonal66
    @Impersonal66 Před 3 lety +95

    Mother of the year:
    1) abandon your child
    2) never show up even after his single father dies
    3) when he gets critically injured saving the city and gets a skyscraper dropped on his face, act sarcastic and cynical af towards him
    4) never apologise

    • @lastlife0726
      @lastlife0726 Před 3 lety +19

      She had a mental disability and was being expected to carry the emotional burden of not only herself but another human being. It's getting your leg cut off and being asked to run a marathon.

    • @ethanharmer5151
      @ethanharmer5151 Před 3 lety +48

      @@lastlife0726 That doesnt apply to 3 and 4 though. I understand why she left Matt, but the way she treated him when he returned is pretty despicable
      She never once apologized to Matt for leaving him. Fuck, she had plenty of opportunities to actually show love to him when his father died, but she chose not to. Postpartum depression does not explain or justify anything she did decades after she gave birth

    • @sunritroykarmakar4406
      @sunritroykarmakar4406 Před 2 lety +2

      Mother of the series

    • @davidthirugnanakumar7888
      @davidthirugnanakumar7888 Před 2 lety

      @@sunritroykarmakar4406 😂 cersei have more compassion to her incest children than her

    • @dhilipans5412
      @dhilipans5412 Před 2 lety +5

      @@davidthirugnanakumar7888 I hate the fact that your right

  • @Mythical.History
    @Mythical.History Před 3 lety +21

    God I love this show

  • @ethanharmer5151
    @ethanharmer5151 Před 3 lety +55

    I think Jack was a decent father to Matt, but winning that fight was fucking selfish. He would rather look like a hero to his son then actually be a father to him

    • @jordanquill8079
      @jordanquill8079 Před 3 lety +53

      I think if I remember correctly he did it because he was gonna get alot of money and had it go to Matt so he kinda did it so his son could have a better future because he wouldn't be able to provide much for Matt later on when he gets older

    • @ScopeSource
      @ScopeSource Před 3 lety +19

      @@jordanquill8079 The most noble thing he could've done. RIP Jack Murdock

    • @jordanquill8079
      @jordanquill8079 Před 3 lety +8

      @@ScopeSource Agreed RIP Jack Murdock

    • @TherealeduardoN
      @TherealeduardoN Před rokem +1

      He did that thinking that Maggie would look after Matt

    • @ethanharmer5151
      @ethanharmer5151 Před rokem +1

      @@TherealeduardoN cool so he abandoned his son thinking the mother who literally already abandoned him first would take care of him? That makes it better

  • @trevturp7687
    @trevturp7687 Před 5 lety +165

    Jack didn’t do anything wrong.

    • @underworld323
      @underworld323 Před 4 lety +35

      No one did.

    • @ajitter89
      @ajitter89 Před 4 lety +70

      Neither did Maggie, no one really knew what Postpartum Depression was or how to diagnose it, when she gave birth to Matt.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 3 lety +16

      @@ajitter89 that’s no excuse to not tell him 30 odd years later, none at all

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Před 3 lety +7

      Jack abandoned Matt on purpose, he was selfish

    • @trevturp7687
      @trevturp7687 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ninjanibba4259 Not to mention, stupid.

  • @TherealeduardoN
    @TherealeduardoN Před 3 lety +21

    the Murdocks are honestly cursed bruh...

  • @marygracedipasupil4466
    @marygracedipasupil4466 Před rokem +3

    Depression was the most difficult to cure it I hate how Jack ignores her

    • @magallanesagustin4952
      @magallanesagustin4952 Před 8 měsíci +4

      He probably didn't notice it and had no idea what post-partum depression was.

    • @Catarssis347
      @Catarssis347 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Matt was born in the 1980s and PPD was not known at that time.

  • @Kev24
    @Kev24 Před 3 lety +27

    matts dad looks too old to be with her they shoulda had a younger actor

    • @Catarssis347
      @Catarssis347 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Jack looks mid 30s and Maggie looks early 20s (in my opinion)

  • @thebigstinker334
    @thebigstinker334 Před 3 lety +16

    bro why did sister maggie look so young compared to jack

  • @shadowspidey7327
    @shadowspidey7327 Před 2 lety +1

    Was really sweet of Jack to help Maggie and father Lantom and her sisters even came to help still she could have asked how Matt was even when he lived in the Catholic Orphanage she didn't tell him who he was I still remember in The Defenders when one sister said get sister Maggie I'm like oh Matt get's to see his mother again. Like how in ep 9 nice she admitted to abandoning Matt at least she didn't try to kill Matt like in the OG story just gave her the depression and anxiety of being a mother and not waiting until marriage to have sex and a baby. Glad Matt forgave her and they are trying to patched things up she took him being a vigilante Blind Superhero rather well too I may add I mean she didn't freak out at all just gave him a lectures.

  • @musicislife012193
    @musicislife012193 Před 2 lety +3

    Is it just me or did they get a really really young looking actress to play Maggie

  • @wimjud8887
    @wimjud8887 Před 5 lety +37

    2:28 what happen to her pls explain

    • @thewarlock539
      @thewarlock539 Před 5 lety +120

      post-partum depression, its a real thing that happens to some women after childbirth. In her case she felt like she betrayed God, hence her apathy to her child.

    • @galactic85
      @galactic85 Před 5 lety +66

      Post Partum depression. It's common for women to experience after childbirth. Maggie left the order for Jack, so when she got it she believed she was being punished by god for betraying her vows. So she returned to the order.

    • @trevturp7687
      @trevturp7687 Před 5 lety +3

      galactic85 What did she get?

    • @ricardoramos1059
      @ricardoramos1059 Před 4 lety +27

      While yes she had post partum depression she rationalized it as gods punishment for quiting her vows, but jack genuinely loved her that's why he called father lathom to take her to the order because Maggie wasn't even able to take care of matt(whom she perceive at the time the embodiment of her sin) which ultimately ended with Maggie leaving and jack to raise there son the best he could. Which lead to Matt's eventual future both literally and metaphorically

    • @osc-oldschoolclips5204
      @osc-oldschoolclips5204 Před 4 lety

      Ozy G lmfao

  • @8440k
    @8440k Před 5 lety +34

    Did Maggie abandon Matt because she was underage or was it because it was against her belief ??

    • @alysondavy2485
      @alysondavy2485 Před 5 lety +141

      She thought she was failling God, since she was a novice but abandoned that to pursue a relationship with Jack, which she interpreted as a grave sin. But she really abandoned Matt due to having postpartum depression.

    • @Williamlongsword-l2c
      @Williamlongsword-l2c Před 4 lety +33

      She had post partum depression.

    • @foolslayer9416
      @foolslayer9416 Před 4 lety

      @Ozy G Worse, she's a nun.

    • @anonymousdante2499
      @anonymousdante2499 Před 4 lety +14

      @@foolslayer9416 I think the further this comment section gets, the more idiots start replying. I end that streak here.

    • @m2s745
      @m2s745 Před 3 lety

      @@Williamlongsword-l2c What it is ?

  • @user-nb9wh7ln2h
    @user-nb9wh7ln2h Před 3 lety +6

    which actress plays young maggie?

  • @moneyscope7
    @moneyscope7 Před rokem +2

    She is really pretty, what is her name in real.

  • @robertsanchez2334
    @robertsanchez2334 Před 4 lety +6

    What episode is this ?

  • @roshinvarghese6879
    @roshinvarghese6879 Před 7 měsíci

    I’m a man and going through what she’s going through but don’t have a kid yet. I don’t want to make a choice and end up leaving a child because I should’ve gone to religious life.

  • @benicioreis3694
    @benicioreis3694 Před 3 lety +3

    She is mother ' Matt Murdock ?

  • @vicman3122
    @vicman3122 Před 2 lety +3

    Did she have a post-partum depression right?

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 Před 2 lety +3

      In the comics she had postpartum psychosis and tried to harm Matt.

  • @spidey0842
    @spidey0842 Před 3 lety +2

    What ep. is it?

  • @Bergen98
    @Bergen98 Před 2 lety +1

    She was in the end - coward, if you look at this. Of course it wasn't her fault for having Post-partum depression, but when Jack was murdered (and she was already healed) - she should have stepped up and helped Matthew. But she did not.

  • @howardstern9764
    @howardstern9764 Před rokem +2

    People like to excuse her, but I won’t. She had time to heal, time to get her act together, time to take the responsibility God gave her when Matt was born. He needed a mother not a Nun.
    All that vainglorious prayer amounts to absolutely nothing. She prays to God but she is an utter stranger to him and his love. Otherwise Maggie would have known that’s not what God wanted.
    That entire Catholic community is also very much guilty for aiding her in abandoning her responsibility.

  • @impersonal6650
    @impersonal6650 Před 2 lety +2

    It usually happens the opposite in real life. The girl gets pregnant and the guy leaves lmao

  • @Doggo4520
    @Doggo4520 Před 2 lety +4

    She looks like a kid

    • @yaneisyrodriguez2266
      @yaneisyrodriguez2266 Před 2 lety

      How old is she supposed to be ?

    • @Doggo4520
      @Doggo4520 Před 2 lety +1

      @@yaneisyrodriguez2266 hopefully older then 17 since jack looks like he’s in his 20s