Thank you my good Sir… I was appreciative and impressed with your family (crew). We accomplished a lot of work in that week and since that time I’ve had about the same number in my shop but have not produced nearly as much. I really appreciated the opportunity in serving your needs.
Great video. I'm a true rookie to this and am preparing to build a small pond with a waterfall out of stryofoam and cardboard. This video made me hesitate until the end and then it made a lot of sense as I'm even close to working with SIPs. Keep up the great work, I have be watching your videos for hours and each one has "AHA" moment. Thanks again.
GREAT VIDEO!!! I’ve been researching alternatives for a long time. You’ve certainly added a lot of thought on this subject and I’ll have to send you my thoughts/questions. Great video, I’ll call before I email
Excellent explanations. And I am much more inclined to take your word over the others. The main reason is you know your s#!+. Another is you have nothing to sell/gain with sharing your views with us regarding products. Your a great teacher. I appreciate that you dont have a holier than thou attitude. Few things are more irritating than arrogance when watching a video. And I appreciate that you speak clearly and you explain in a way that I easily understand. Thank you for sharing. Rock on 🤘
I meant styro crete stuff, but i am curious what your take on AIRcrete is. would you be about to build your insanely amazing shower with it. (That shower is what got me into concrete anything it is nuts how awesome you did that.) Also, can you do the rock around the homes with it? I have not tried any experiments yet so you might be saving me a ton of headaches.
I want to insulate a shipping container interior and want to fill all the gaps in the corrugation. Seems like a good alternative to spray foam. I am willing to grind foam and have the space to store it.
you have a good point on the insulative issue. A styrocrete mixture can not have great insulative qualities because you have very small direct channels to the outside as compared to even one inch of pure EPS. Something for me to think about as I design my new dome balsacrete panels.
For insulation value it’s better to combined actual foam aircrete with the styrofoam regrind. A 6 inch thick wall has 26R value when you combine both techniques. Just use fabric or mesh on the outside/inside with stucco then paint with thermo barrier ceramic bead paint. It’s bulletproof, fireproof, hurricane proof, termite proof and if built round/dome shaped it’s actually tornado proof 😃. It has the highest survival ratings of any structure per FEMA 💕
i think a styro aircrete wall with a typical wood frame inside is a good bet but you are right, regrinding foam is labor intensive. It may be r3 per inch.
what would you suggest for like this style but like a fire brick because i am in the planing phase of making a custom rock-it stove and making with mold-able firebrick would be good idea
Amazing Work! New Subscriber. Two questions. How do they hold up throughout the Season's? Any way to prolonged material for feezing temperatures? Thank you in advance
Thanks for the positive feedback and I appreciate you watching my videos… Items that are made with styrofoam mixtures have zero problem with Severe hot or cold weather,as the air that’s in a bead of styrofoam absorbs the expansion and or contraction differential the weather creates
@@fauxrock Great to Know! Thank you for the quick response. I'm in the process of a 2year building pond 8'x20' includes three pools and 4 waterfalls. No matter where you live finding boulders that are good size are hard to come by. With this anything is possible. 👍👊
Can I use this same mix to make 10ft fence post with slots to put panels in 7ft high. I would like to make the panels out of the same material. Wondering if this idea is possible? Thanks ahead of time
Yes, you could use this mix but you’d have to reinforce your feature with steel or mesh and kick up the strength of Cement versus Foam. I wouldn’t do less than a two part Styrofoam to one part Portland and I would use acrylic glue as my liquid instead of water.
If you wanted to cast large boulder, something like Jersey Barriers -- a basic self-supporting triangular shape, how would you make the inside of the mold so that when the form was lifted off vertically it would resemble a large boulder? Want to make a mold to fill from the top, cast in place boulders at least 2' wide at the bottom x 6 feet long x 6 feet high that tapers down to 1' at the top. Want to end up something that looks like: DekoRRa Rectangular Faux Rock - Model 110. Any ideas appreciated. Thought of making some sort of cnc'ed wood panels with rock ledges cut out from glulam beams and coat them with some sort of anti-stick/release compound .
The first step would be to build your prototype rock so that you could then take a mold off of it. From there you could begin casting copies thereafter. If I were contemplating doing this I would make three prototype boulders and make 3 molds from them so that I could have an 18 foot span before my rock image reproduced.
I'm wanting to pour a 2" pad for a 22' across firepit area & top it with pea gravel. What is your recommendation for the mixing in doing this project? I need your help please if you have any suggestions 🙏
Normally a slab like that I would pour with concrete that would normally be at least 3 1/2 inches thick you say you wanna go to 2 inches which if you reinforce it with increased amount of Steel and you kick up the comprehensive strength or the PSI strength you could do it 2 inch pour.
Yes, styrocrete is all the rage. I wonder if most people really comprehend the mess, and storage space that would be required to shred enough styrofoam to build a structure of any size. Also, not much is known about how long a structure made out of homemade aircrete or styrocrete will last.
I built a Rastra block house about 15 years ago ( styrofoam concrete block) no problems with the envelope yet , stucco hasn’t cracked , and very energy efficient Year round. Pumice is a local lightweight material used around here too but it’s about 1/2 the insulation value of styrene cement block . Pumice Crete walls are typically formed and poured 16” thick in this climate (3b) . Rastra has been thoroughly tested for R-values , same with The Perfect Block , extensive industry standard, lab rated r-value , fire rating and compressive strength testing. For any material to become a certified building material it is required to undergo extensive testing . If you build any wall thick enough it will be effective , even rammed earth above grade can be energy efficient .
One thing I don’t hear mentioned from any individuals building with their own materials online is the importance of having the material lab tested ( whatever composite/blend it may be ) It’s possible to end up with some insurance issues ( not being able to get insurance or having higher insurance rates) building without a lab tested material . A solid independent building material test goes a long way regardless what you choose to build with , but can take some time for the results and approval to come back.
@@SumFugaziSalt Yes, we may not be able to get insurance with the opt out permit we have, but we are doing everything pretty inexpensively, and are willing to take the risk. We were considering aircrete, but after we conducted our own (non scientific) testing, we backed out. We crunched the numbers, and found that a more traditional build is going to be less expensive anyway.
I'm confused. If "styrocrete" doesn't have any R-value, why do you use it to insulate with in your own projects? Not being snarky, just thought that's what I've heard you say, both in this and other vids. (Which are great, btw!) Thanks!
I think I was trying to differentiate between using the Styrofoam mix for building structures. Where in you don’t achieve any real significant R-value. As I said, in my videos I typically will use the Styrofoam mix for two reasons one I will put it underneath a pool or a spa or a water feature that’s going to be heated because it is a thermal break so that I don’t lose heat to the ground. And I also use it to fill areas that are void and that’s about the best I can see using it for.
Using the ingredients Styrofoam and or air cream or virtually the same thing with respect to both or air oriented in other words they produce air bubbles in the mixture I personally have used air Crete and don’t think much of it but to each his own I guess as the old saying
@fauxrock structuraly stronger, or stronger R value? I know what you think of styrocrete for building construction, but at you confident on using these posterior perelite sip panels for houses? I plan to do a timber frame, as I have a sawmill, and I'm vetting the wall options now. I'm not worried about insurance, and code enforcement is non existent where I am for the most part, and I won't be bringing any banks or lenders into this, therefore I have an advantage of extreme flexibility in material and method.
this guy did R value testing on styro-aircrete, aircrete and styroconcrete. Basically the styroaircrete did the best R=3.3, and the other 2 were about 2.3R value. czcams.com/video/6U4JAop0dTY/video.html watch around 19:00 in.
I have dealt with this guy within the last year. Nice enough guy but the other values he obtained were far from laboratory conditions. There are many certified labs out there that have done the test on the Styrofoam mud and not you’ll anywhere near those numbers. People will believe what they wanna believe and that’s the right I personally don’t see any significant insulation in the Styrofoam mixtures if I’m going to insulate it’s not gonna be with Styrofoam cement mixtures
@@fauxrock even if not lab values, the relative comparison is what is most interesting. adding foam to the cement/Styrofoam mixtures increases insulation effectiveness by about 50%. fiberglass insulation is used in many homes and is only about R3 so to get something close to that is decent. nothing to write home about but given the extremely cheap cost, it's a win in my book.
FYI: I have performed extensive ASTM laboratory testing on many different formulations over the last 20 years. Also a lot of field testing on top of that.
You have not considered styro aircrete which has very good r value. New home grinding systems for styrofoam are virtually mess free. look up sytro aircrete if you want great r value and a fantastic building material. this has not been considered here by this guy.
Great info. Thanks also for spending that week with me. You offer great training. It was worth every penny.
Thank you my good Sir… I was appreciative and impressed with your family (crew). We accomplished a lot of work in that week and since that time I’ve had about the same number in my shop but have not produced nearly as much. I really appreciated the opportunity in serving your needs.
Great video. I'm a true rookie to this and am preparing to build a small pond with a waterfall out of stryofoam and cardboard. This video made me hesitate until the end and then it made a lot of sense as I'm even close to working with SIPs. Keep up the great work, I have be watching your videos for hours and each one has "AHA" moment. Thanks again.
Glad to be of service… Thanks for watching my videos
GREAT VIDEO!!! I’ve been researching alternatives for a long time. You’ve certainly added a lot of thought on this subject and I’ll have to send you my thoughts/questions. Great video, I’ll call before I email
Thanks for the great feedback. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my video
Thanks for some great advice buddy, while each to their own, structural size and strength is a very flexible and fluid topic. Great video.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my video
What a great lesson. Function before 'fashion'. Got it.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I appreciate you watching my video
Excellent explanations. And I am much more inclined to take your word over the others. The main reason is you know your s#!+. Another is you have nothing to sell/gain with sharing your views with us regarding products. Your a great teacher. I appreciate that you dont have a holier than thou attitude. Few things are more irritating than arrogance when watching a video. And I appreciate that you speak clearly and you explain in a way that I easily understand. Thank you for sharing. Rock on 🤘
Thanks again for the continued positive feedback. I really appreciate you watching my videos.
This is very eye-opening as I have not heard the other side of aircrete. thank you very very much
I meant styro crete stuff, but i am curious what your take on AIRcrete is. would you be about to build your insanely amazing shower with it. (That shower is what got me into concrete anything it is nuts how awesome you did that.) Also, can you do the rock around the homes with it? I have not tried any experiments yet so you might be saving me a ton of headaches.
Well, thanks again I appreciate your kind feedback and the time you spent watching my video.
You’re welcome. I’m glad to be of service. Thanks for watching.
I want to insulate a shipping container interior and want to fill all the gaps in the corrugation. Seems like a good alternative to spray foam. I am willing to grind foam and have the space to store it.
Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my video.
you have a good point on the insulative issue. A styrocrete mixture can not have great insulative qualities because you have very small direct channels to the outside as compared to even one inch of pure EPS. Something for me to think about as I design my new dome balsacrete panels.
Thanks for the feedback… I appreciate you watching my video
For insulation value it’s better to combined actual foam aircrete with the styrofoam regrind. A 6 inch thick wall has 26R value when you combine both techniques. Just use fabric or mesh on the outside/inside with stucco then paint with thermo barrier ceramic bead paint. It’s bulletproof, fireproof, hurricane proof, termite proof and if built round/dome shaped it’s actually tornado proof 😃. It has the highest survival ratings of any structure per FEMA 💕
If that’s what works for you then that’s great. I respectfully disagree with a ton of experimentation and experience
Someone should make styroaircrete SIP panels...
Hello Nice video ,keep up thé good work.
I'll used styrocrete too level wall's before tiling .light weight and quick for thé thickniss i neded.
Thanks for the positive feedback and I appreciate you watching my video
i think a styro aircrete wall with a typical wood frame inside is a good bet but you are right, regrinding foam is labor intensive. It may be r3 per inch.
Thanks for the positive feedback and I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my video.
what would you suggest for like this style but like a fire brick because i am in the planing phase of making a custom rock-it stove and making with mold-able firebrick would be good idea
If you live near a brick plants they sell the fire brick material that you can make your rock with
Amazing Work! New Subscriber. Two questions. How do they hold up throughout the Season's? Any way to prolonged material for feezing temperatures? Thank you in advance
Thanks for the positive feedback and I appreciate you watching my videos…
Items that are made with styrofoam mixtures have zero problem with Severe hot or cold weather,as the air that’s in a bead of styrofoam absorbs the expansion and or contraction differential the weather creates
@@fauxrock Great to Know! Thank you for the quick response. I'm in the process of a 2year building pond 8'x20' includes three pools and 4 waterfalls. No matter where you live finding boulders that are good size are hard to come by. With this anything is possible. 👍👊
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would the styro stuff work ok for a stucko? looking to use it as a modernized version of daub for willing in wattle walls.
Not sure, I understand your application, but this makes can be used for many applications
Can I use this same mix to make 10ft fence post with slots to put panels in 7ft high. I would like to make the panels out of the same material. Wondering if this idea is possible? Thanks ahead of time
Yes, you could use this mix but you’d have to reinforce your feature with steel or mesh and kick up the strength of Cement versus Foam. I wouldn’t do less than a two part Styrofoam to one part Portland and I would use acrylic glue as my liquid instead of water.
If you wanted to cast large boulder, something like Jersey Barriers -- a basic self-supporting triangular shape, how would you make the inside of the mold so that when the form was lifted off vertically it would resemble a large boulder? Want to make a mold to fill from the top, cast in place boulders at least 2' wide at the bottom x 6 feet long x 6 feet high that tapers down to 1' at the top. Want to end up something that looks like: DekoRRa Rectangular Faux Rock - Model 110. Any ideas appreciated. Thought of making some sort of cnc'ed wood panels with rock ledges cut out from glulam beams and coat them with some sort of anti-stick/release compound .
The first step would be to build your prototype rock so that you could then take a mold off of it. From there you could begin casting copies thereafter.
If I were contemplating doing this I would make three prototype boulders and make 3 molds from them so that I could have an 18 foot span before my rock image reproduced.
@@fauxrock Thank you, let me meditate on this.
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I'm wanting to pour a 2" pad for a 22' across firepit area & top it with pea gravel. What is your recommendation for the mixing in doing this project? I need your help please if you have any suggestions 🙏
22 feet or 22 inches across. I wanted to make sure before suggesting a mix for you
@@fauxrock firepit deck area is 22 feet with a 5 foot fire ring. Approx 310 sq ft area.
Normally a slab like that I would pour with concrete that would normally be at least 3 1/2 inches thick you say you wanna go to 2 inches which if you reinforce it with increased amount of Steel and you kick up the comprehensive strength or the PSI strength you could do it 2 inch pour.
Yes, styrocrete is all the rage. I wonder if most people really comprehend the mess, and storage space that would be required to shred enough styrofoam to build a structure of any size. Also, not much is known about how long a structure made out of homemade aircrete or styrocrete will last.
It has its Applications but I just don’t see it being used to build structures of any size.
I built a Rastra block house about 15 years ago ( styrofoam concrete block) no problems with the envelope yet , stucco hasn’t cracked , and very energy efficient Year round. Pumice is a local lightweight material used around here too but it’s about 1/2 the insulation value of styrene cement block . Pumice Crete walls are typically formed and poured 16” thick in this climate (3b) . Rastra has been thoroughly tested for R-values , same with The Perfect Block , extensive industry standard, lab rated r-value , fire rating and compressive strength testing. For any material to become a certified building material it is required to undergo extensive testing . If you build any wall thick enough it will be effective , even rammed earth above grade can be energy efficient .
One thing I don’t hear mentioned from any individuals building with their own materials online is the importance of having the material lab tested ( whatever composite/blend it may be ) It’s possible to end up with some insurance issues ( not being able to get insurance or having higher insurance rates) building without a lab tested material . A solid independent building material test goes a long way regardless what you choose to build with , but can take some time for the results and approval to come back.
@@SumFugaziSalt Yes, we may not be able to get insurance with the opt out permit we have, but we are doing everything pretty inexpensively, and are willing to take the risk. We were considering aircrete, but after we conducted our own (non scientific) testing, we backed out. We crunched the numbers, and found that a more traditional build is going to be less expensive anyway.
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Burnas noche.me gusto mucho la idea de la mezcla y quero saber puedo obtener los ingredientes debla mezcla
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@@fauxrock how can you provide information about training? para aprender las mezcla cemento etyrofon:
Just give me a call, I have several different training programs that specifically deal with the objectives you might have. 971-237-2957
I'm confused.
If "styrocrete" doesn't have any R-value, why do you use it to insulate with in your own projects?
Not being snarky, just thought that's what I've heard you say, both in this and other vids.
(Which are great, btw!)
Thanks!
I think I was trying to differentiate between using the Styrofoam mix for building structures. Where in you don’t achieve any real significant R-value. As I said, in my videos I typically will use the Styrofoam mix for two reasons one I will put it underneath a pool or a spa or a water feature that’s going to be heated because it is a thermal break so that I don’t lose heat to the ground. And I also use it to fill areas that are void and that’s about the best I can see using it for.
Styrofoam is generally R5 per inch of thickness.
Great… You can believe whatever you’d like. I don’t argue…
there are different densities and types of styrofoam made, most is only around R3
Again not Very significant
What about Styrofoam aircrete? Cheers mate.
Using the ingredients Styrofoam and or air cream or virtually the same thing with respect to both or air oriented in other words they produce air bubbles in the mixture I personally have used air Crete and don’t think much of it but to each his own I guess as the old saying
Are your formula ratios done by weight or by volume sir?
I always use a volume measurement for the foam mixtures
@fauxrock thank you so much. I am sure I'd have figured it out by experimentation but your shared knowledge is very much appreciated!
Thanks, no worries. It’s a pleasure to be of assistance to you!
Can you economically make cement perlite SIP panels?
The answer insurance of course… Yes you can.
So how do these perelite cement panels stack up to Styrocrete/Styroaircrete in terms of insulative properties?
They’re actually stronger than using Styrofoam, certainly more than aircrete
@fauxrock structuraly stronger, or stronger R value? I know what you think of styrocrete for building construction, but at you confident on using these posterior perelite sip panels for houses? I plan to do a timber frame, as I have a sawmill, and I'm vetting the wall options now. I'm not worried about insurance, and code enforcement is non existent where I am for the most part, and I won't be bringing any banks or lenders into this, therefore I have an advantage of extreme flexibility in material and method.
@johnadams3800 structurally speaking… it wouldn’t have as much insulation value as would Styrofoam
Are you still available to take quick calls?
Yes… 971-237-2957
this guy did R value testing on styro-aircrete, aircrete and styroconcrete. Basically the styroaircrete did the best R=3.3, and the other 2 were about 2.3R value. czcams.com/video/6U4JAop0dTY/video.html watch around 19:00 in.
I have dealt with this guy within the last year. Nice enough guy but the other values he obtained were far from laboratory conditions. There are many certified labs out there that have done the test on the Styrofoam mud and not you’ll anywhere near those numbers.
People will believe what they wanna believe and that’s the right I personally don’t see any significant insulation in the Styrofoam mixtures if I’m going to insulate it’s not gonna be with Styrofoam cement mixtures
@@fauxrock even if not lab values, the relative comparison is what is most interesting. adding foam to the cement/Styrofoam mixtures increases insulation effectiveness by about 50%.
fiberglass insulation is used in many homes and is only about R3 so to get something close to that is decent. nothing to write home about but given the extremely cheap cost, it's a win in my book.
We all have to choose what we feel is best for ourselves…
Why are you stats not rank up to someone else who actually tested his mixes?
What is his channels? I might be able to speak to your question after doing an overview of his content.
FYI: I have performed extensive ASTM laboratory testing on many different formulations over the last 20 years. Also a lot of field testing on top of that.
Hey, I just wanted to follow up and see what channel you were talking about. Let me know
You have not considered styro aircrete which has very good r value. New home grinding systems for styrofoam are virtually mess free.
look up sytro aircrete if you want great r value and a fantastic building material. this has not been considered here by this guy.
I made styro aircrete more and 20 years ago… You know what they say when you assume. I can assure you this isn’t my first rodeo.