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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2015
- Why I don't use my voice when in public with Deaf friends. This episode is not for the faint of heart ... in more ways than one ;-)
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Love this perspective! I have been sharing your videos with my ASL classes on the down time. My students enjoy it, thanks!
I disagree with Robert. Your decision was based on your experience, and it was your decision for yourself, which you had every right to do. And you informed the group beforehand. Deaf people have been ordering for themselves at restaurants since before you were born. Since when is signing "pretending to be deaf"???? If I speak Spanish am I pretending to be from somewhere else, or am I simply speaking another language? I love the analogy-- I use the phrase "their brain falls down"... Your analogy is perfect:)
Dang... I never though of it that way. And now that you bring it up, it makes perfect sense. I like this idea of not speaking when I'm out with my Deaf friends.
When I'm out with my Deaf friends at a restaurant and we're ready to order, they always order for themselves at the server/waiter's attention - as do I. From what I observed each time I'm with my Deaf friends at whatever restaurant or bar we're at, the waiter (already knowing that I'm hearing) rarely ever ask me to reiterate what my friend said cuz the waiter could understand them clearly by the gestures. Unless my friends ask me to send a message or request to the waiter for something, I'll relay (not interpret) that message to the waiter. Most restaurant workers have the understanding that Deaf people (and everyone else) can fend for themselves, and it's just common courtesy & workplace protocol to have face-to-face contact with the customer they're interacting with.
Robert made the comment below that signing only makes it look like hearing people are "pretending to be deaf". That is not true. When hearing people sign with a Deaf person in the presence of other hearing people, it's a form of respect to the Deaf individual, and it shows the acknowledgement that the hearing signer has for his/her Deaf peer. ASL is a language like any other language in the world, and if I use another language with my friend who is a native speaker of that language, I'm not pretending to be their nationality...I'm communicating with my friend. I'm giving my time & attention to my friend.
And in Austin's case (I hope I'm not speaking out of turn Austin...), that is totally his choice whether he wants to sign only or not. Granted he is a CODA, so for him, it makes sense. He was in circumstances as a child where he had to mediate between Deaf and hearing people in outings which in turn displaces him from the atmosphere of that event....again as a "child". I could only imagine how frustrating that would be. I'm not a CODA myself, but I can draw this explanation back to one situation at my church conference last month. One church brother got a new tablet and he's not that tech savvy, so he asked me if I could show him how to work is way around the device, and I was willing to help him out. Keep in mind that this was during service and the preacher was giving his sermon. He wanted to record the preacher's message, so I showed him how to get the camera app, and he went on to record. For about 5 minutes into the sermon, he called me and asked me to record for him, and I wasn't too pleased but I figured I'd help him since he doesn't quite know his way around the tablet. So I did, and this went on for over a half hour (and this sermon was intense & really good). And towards then end of the sermon, the preacher did an alter call and the congregation went to the front and got prayed for & were prophesied to, and so did the brother I was recording for. And he asked me to record that as well. So while everyone was getting prayed for and prophesied to, I was stuck having to not only record the entire message but the alter call as well. That made me absolutely frustrated because although I was physically present at the service, I couldn't be engaged as much as I would've like to be because I was asked to do a favour for someone instead of being a participant in the service which is was I came to church to do. And although this was only a one-time scenario, having to be put in a situation like that continuously can be perpetually frustrating, and to be in a place where I can actually engage in something where I don't have someone relying on me all the time is almost like ultimate freedom. So I do kind of get where Austin is coming from.
So again, I do like the idea of only signing. It is a good way for new signers & ASL students to be immersed in the Deaf community. In my ASL program we had a month-long semester of ASL immersion. During that month, once we set foot on the college ground, we did classroom activities and went on real-world excursions with Deaf community members and we were to only sign; we were not allowed to speak to each other or any hearing person at the college. That really helped our language acquisition a lot.
So I said my piece. I think I inadvertently created an essay here... What's the word count? lol :P
I worked as a deaf waiter in Denver for a few years. The hearing people loved it because they could point out in the menu what they wanted to order rather than speaking out their order and hoping they got the right order.
If the order called for degree of doneness, type of cheese, sauce or dressing, I have small cards that they can point out how they wanted their meat cooked, what sort of cheese they wanted on their hamburgers, etc.
As always Awti you bring such an incredible prospective to everything you are such a gift loved it.
You are the best, AWTI !
amazing revelation you've presented.
Ahhhhh! SO true!
I agreed with you. Once someone speak then everything will focus and depend on that person who speak, just same thing with waiter/waitress giving out the receipt in one group and who would get the receipt? That!
Very good, thanks bid hugs from Barcelona of Spain ;)
You're a intresting guy ;) Keep going
Lol very true and funny.
LOOOOOOOOL
My wife hearing and I am deaf. Next time we go out eat. I want to make sure she signs without using voice. Tell you what happen...everytimes when she ordered meal for me and when waitress left a check and I paid with card. That waitress returned and gave my card back to my wife instead me. Really?
P.S. That said, I love turning my voice off when I'm with other deaf people (I'm deaf and use Cued Speech + sign, but mostly SEE), so I understand the allure and I commend you for following your own desires.
thank you very much. very helpful. Beautiful. Hope to meet you one day. Hancock
+John Hancock Likewise, my good man!
It's so true -- since 27 years old - I quit voicing much to all hearing family & friends' dismay. I wish more Deaf people would quit voicing too, not only just hearing... we'd make a greater impact to the non-signers.
Interesting.
Nice perspective. I think it goes back to the idea of being a good friend to the Deaf community, and that involves not taking center stage and speaking on behalf of Deaf people. Us hearing people should not take the easy way out or only try to communicate with hearing people about Deaf people, they are capable of handling their own conversations if we make the effort to "listen".
The idea that a word, because it is voiced in the presence of other deaf people, "blows the brains out" of a hearing waiter, feels quite hyperbolic. I fully understand that speaking while with a group of deaf people who are voice-off can feel awkward and forced, but come on-- it's no catastrophe. Different people communicate differently. Words sounded out won't hurt anyone, and they certainly won't blow anyone's brains out.