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- The CTA bus tracker can sometimes show a bus coming that never arrives. These ghost buses are a major problem for commuters on a daily basis. abc7chicago.co... #news #chicago
Not to mention the buses, that deliberately pass up riders standing on the bus stop because the bus schedule is behind.
Right... that's so upsetting, they'll just drive past you. We experience that with the NICE buses in Long Island
Yes omg this is the WORST, waiting forever only for the bus driver to just ignore you
Same thing happens in L.A. Plus the drivers that speed up and refuse to even stop to pick up passengers with mobility devices.
Same here in Utica, NY -- and the drivers blame the passengers for being behind. SMH
I dunno if this how it is in Chicago, but the excuse here in Kansas City on why that stuff happens is "short staff", which is a bunch of BS. Because no matter how "short staff" they are, doesn't mean the current staff has to be half-ass.
Chicago isn't the only place this is happening, I live in San Antonio and it occurs here often as well, and what the bus company doesn't understand is a missed bus can cost someone their livelihood, their home, their life in certain cases. Bosses don't care, doctors offices don't care, if you are late no one will take the excuse the bus didn't arrive especially when the bus schedule shows there was a bus scheduled. It's a serious issue that is costing people lot's more than mere time. If they can't service the scheduled lines then decrease the scheduled runs, stop lying. Just stop lying.
This. My state always sends a back up bus. For some of the most fastest cities to just not care is crazy as hell. They can be silent on the cuts they are making for transportation. While also the company you worked for saves on these budget account because you got fired because of the bus. I wrote a comment about the women in City of Dixon, RITA A. CRUNDWELL, she was treasurer over the city. She stole $54million from the city. Which made production stop for new roads, new city projects and layoffs to be had. She’s only serving 20 years in prison. While the city is still underway. She’s one of the top horse owners in America. I had to write a paper on her in class. So yeah. The avg person still takes the hit. Hate this system.
Live in San Antonio as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is occurring more in the not so great areas.
When it really matters, take your car.
Same issue with SEPTA in Philadelphia...
@RoySATX - Absolutely. I live in MN and as if it isn't bad enough that they are late or a no-show, it's worse in the winter and sub-zero temps. I started taking the train which takes more than 2x longer, but it runs every 10-15 mins. The downside to that is homeless and drug addicts use the train in the winter as a place to sleep and do their drugs. Threatening passengers for money, defacing the inside of the cars etc. It's a lose-lose situation. Thank goodness I retired a few months ago and don't have to deal with them anymore, at least not every day.
that bureaucrat has never had to wait for a bus in his whole life,and the statement that "another bus is not far behind " is a crock
100% true.
Seemed just short of a puff piece to me. The reporter barely challenged that empty suit on anything he was saying. Way to keep the viewer mis-informed.
Most of the time the source of the delay also effects the next bus
exactly! These people are crooks
If I had a dollar for every bus that ghosted me I wouldn’t need to go to work.
FACTS!
Damn fr? Smh
Work?
This has been going on for as long as I can remember and I’ve been a Chicago resident for 35yrs. They’ve just given this a name now.
Very true 😆
We've been calling them ghost buses for years, the media just now got hip to it
The green line is horrible
@@ChrisWalker-wy7fy any line that serves the south side is horrible 😩
@@Malepical totally agree
These aren't ghost buses. These are drivers taking themselves off of the tracker when they are running late. That's when you get the "delayed" response.
You will see the adjusted times when they place themselves back on it. It's worse at night/early morning because there are fewer drivers at those times and the ones working get backlogged.
A CTA driver told me this during the pandemic. That's why my husband and I bought a car. When you have to be at work at 7am, you cannot rely on the CTA to get you there on time.
They also don't pay people good money to deal with the public and by hiring people with felonies on they're backgrounds they don't have to either, but the quality of service will suffer. If any drivers are manipulating bus trackers they are doing so at the command of the CTA spokesperson lying to the reporter in this piece.
No you can’t! Uber for me!
Good for you. That’s the one thing I’ve always said about the pandemic, besides losing countless loved ones (my mom/brother within 5 days of one another) the pandemic also magnified some issues that were already present & created new ones. Good for you that you got your transportation. Public transportation can be a mixed bag. I’m fortunate to work remotely to never return to the office until I retire.
...That driver lied to you. No way can a driver take him/herself off the tracker, That is a process that takes place at 120 S Racine and adjusting the schedule every time a driver goes "F" will not accomplish anything. By the time that run reaches its annulled update on the tracker, Passengers would probably have already gotten where they are going. Even if that where a position, Just imagine if that individual called-off just prior to signing in😅
@@customcalendars4u2...no "operating" employees are part of the second-chance program and the spokesperson actually told it like it is. Lot of people don't even go by tracker, They just wing-it😂😂😂
Its the worst. You’ll see 3 buses behind each other leaving people to wait for an hour for the same 3 buses to arrive.
I have seen that in LA for 30 minute frequency buses.
You do know those buses can change their signs to do another route?
Get a car. Uber.
@BlueOvals24 not everyone can afford cars. Not everyone can drive. I love car drivers complaining that so many people are not supposed to drive. They complain a lot seniors should not drive. Well when you have terrible public transportation, you are forcing under qualified drivers to drive. Inlove the irony.
Oh, uber. The cost will add up that you can own TESLA.
Happens all the time in nyc.First bus is packed and when the other two or three buses come along they are empty and the driver is out for a sunday drive.Many times this is planned by drivers so they dont have to deal with the public.Its an age old problem
Thank you so much for bringing attention to this. I can't count how many times I've waited up to an hour for a bus that says it is arriving in minutes.
Here in Seattle, if the phone app says the bus is on time, I assume it's a ghost. If the app says it's late by any degree, it usually means I can trust that the GPS is actually seeing something.
Baton Rouge,New Orleans & Houston also...bus service is crap.
Happens all the time in upstate New York
There is another aspect: When I lived in San Francisco, back in the 90's, dispatchers on the Muni bus system would "prioritize" lines. That meant that they would actually pull buses/runs from lesser lines, to fill schedule holes in busier lines. It was not uncommon fro some neighborhood lines to be stripped clean, to fill holes in other routes. Folks would end-up waiting for a bus that would literally never come---all to maintain a 2-minute headway on one of the major streets.
Get behind the issue and don't rest until we have good jobs and dependable public transportation! Good luck.
This is used all over transit lines today as well. TTC buses, streetcars and subways all have this 'prioritizing' happen during the week.
In this story they reported that the 49 is one of the most busiest in the city. Maybe they diverted the buses to accommodate less diverse areas.
That's back when San Francisco was gay, now it's just a sh*thole
Same thing happens in L.A. The worst is when it's late at night and there actually aren't even that many passengers or traffic yet the buses are still quite late. That can make you miss a transfer to the last bus of another line and leave you stranded. Sometimes the last one will even be cancelled and you're left stranded.
Thankfully we have rideshares now. It's more money out of pocket but at least you can get home.
@@fiveoctaves It's a good life saver honestly. Though it shouldn't be relied on as it gets way too expensive in the long run
Stranding riders like that should be an offence for which the responsible employee is immediately fired. Issues like this is why many employers will not hire people who depend on the bus for transportation.
@@nunyabiznez6381so true
Nuny is right. Also, mass transit companies should be fined for every strand.
Plus, employers should hire those who depend on mass transit because there are plenty of good reasons that someone is unable to drive.
All these industries that say they are understaffed, but scrutinize the heck out a potential applicant is ridiculous. Credit scores, work history, and irrelevant things in one’s past are keeping Americans unemployable. The FMCSA is a joke!!!
Actually, things that DO Matter for bus drivers: Driving record, criminal history, and job history. Also, if you have a CDL, that helps but they can help you if you dont have that.
An average of 4% daily cancellation is not a small fraction.
Did you here small fraction
yes it is. literally. 4 out of 100 is literally a small fraction.
@@boofert.washington2499That stat was a lie. No way it’s only 4% lol
That’s not the math…. You weren’t paying attention
I don't know what you all are talking about. 4% is a big number if you use buses as a primary means of transportation.
It’s like that with septa. In Philly. They say they are short staffed. But I know people who applied at their job fair and they didn’t get hired. 🥴. When employees call out at septa they don’t replace them. They used to have bus drivers sitting at the depot just in case a driver calls out. They don’t do that anymore
Running skeleton crews
Luckily King County Metro (Seattle)'s bullpens (Metro's lingo for the areas at the bases where drivers wait for assingments) are filling up again. Which means that if a driver calls out, there may be someone to fill in.
Let me guess, no money to address the problem huh? Let's guess where it's going...
oh we have the money the cta leadership is just atrocious, nothing to do with migrants
Illegal aliens.😂😂😂
@V.P.N..... Right lol
That's always the excuse for incompetent management and total lack of oversight. "If you give us more money, we'll fix the problem." "Riiiight- just like you did the last six times you said the same thing?"
This happens far too frequently not just in Chicago but most of the USA has crappy public transportation. Stuff is too slow, often delayed etc. this is why so many people will opt to buying a car even if it's not financially viable to own one. Because it gives them that freedom of movement without compromising their schedule. I used to ride the bus but the ghost shit not just on buses but even on the train too. I then went out and bought 3 cars and I haven't used public transit in over a decade now, never again late for anything
As a kid in the 70's it took me YEARS to get my family to realize that if we've been waiting for a while and the subway is packed, the probability that the next one was just a minute or two behind was pretty high. Often I was right...and it was much less crowded to boot.
In Tokyo every bus would be on time every time.
Could demographics have something to do with that? 🤔🤔 Of course, the question is purely rhetorical.
I'm an Orlando city bus driver. That is total BS. There are so many variables. Breakdowns. Accidents. Medical emergency on bus. Wheel chairs. Road construction. No way every bus is always on time.
fuck even suburban chicagos bus system is regularly on time
Complete different world
What a much better system. Lucky.
Anyone who lost employment because of this should be compensated by the CTA
It's not just Chicago it's happening here in Kansas City too. Local governments are perfectly fine with understaffing due to low pay. I consider bus drivers to be an essential part of a city. The work of an NFL player, an actor, or a rapper doesn't really contribute to society, yet we'll pay them more than bus drivers and teachers?
Thank you for acknowledging us bus operators! We serve an essential role in taking you guys to your destinations safely. It’s stressful at times dealing with the public, avoiding accidents because of bad drivers, keeping ourselves AND customers safe, while having to maintain our schedules.
I agree. There is no incentive to work that job. The pay would not be good enough and the people you have to deal with.
I wonder how many drivers want to work and are not given the hours? Our bus company here in Central NY hires a lot of part timers. In a country that does not offer universal healthcare, most companies don't offer it to PTers.
Your comment doesn’t make sense. Commercial/Entertainment jobs versus Public sector jobs are 2 separate categories.
Commercial & Entertainment jobs are funded purely by the market and they can literally end the moment people decide they no longer care to be entertained. So the pay will be higher because there is a lot more work to keep people entertained to make them give up their hard-earned money for it.
However, with Public Sector jobs they literally take years or decades to end due to being legislated into existence. Public sector jobs for the most part NEVER go away. They are cheap and abundant and easy to get, which is why they pay so low.
You sure you aren’t from Chicago? Man anywhere a Democrat lives is a democrat. They get paid excessively for not doing their jobs, that’s why they don’t give a damn about anyone else. I have met these morons boasting about the pay for doing nothing then they go on tv putting on a show spewing the same garbage you just said to convince the taxpayers to give up more green. But people like you love buying into it because you don’t understand or are in on it.
APPS are real time stats, not based on Schedules. The buses are Live, the Drivers are just dickin around
It's more to do with how CTA sends out the data. They should not send out real time data unless they know the bus is running. I'm pretty sure the driver has nothing to do with it.
I haven't road the bus since 2014 and it's always been a issue especially in the winter time n then when the bus will show up it would be crowded I'm glad people are speaking up especially after cta still want to increase fare.
I don't think the word "road" means what you think it means.
@@danieldaniels7571 Thank you for caring so much that nobody else including me don't give a sh!t go catch a ghost bus bro. 🤣
@@jeremymurry7011 you gave enough of a shit to write back. I hope you learned something today.
@@danieldaniels7571Many are only marginally educated and do not know how to or care about spelling, it is not necessary to be fully literate in their line of work.
@@valeria-militiamessalina5672 literacy is necessary in all lines of work. It’s also necessary to communicate effectively in a text-based forum like this. And he spelled a “road” correctly. But as I said, I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means.
My recent experience with CTA as a visitor was weird. Taking Route 66 there was terrible line bunching, buses going 2 at a time in the other direction and then 3 came back to back at in the direction I was waiting. First two standing room only, 3rd one went around at my stop with only 3 people onboard even though we were trying to flag it down. We boarding the 2nd bus which had 5 seats taken up by two guys nodded off into the aisle the entire ride and another two seats taken up by someone’s daughter laying across 2 seats.
666
Yeah, the bus drivers are trifling and weak. They're not supposed to allow people to sleep on the bus.
👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
@@thedynamicd85pass da blames. Thats what theys do bess
@@thedynamicd85pass the blame is what blacks do over and over to where things don't function
They deliberately do this in impoverished neighborhoods. They also deliberately pay these people less than they deserve. Im willing to bet bus driving doesnt pay for a 1, 2 or 3 bedroom home/apartment and car note/auto insurance. They know what they're doing. Then they have the audacity to just blame the bus drivers who "call off". Its sick.
So this happens because a bus driver 'calls off' last minute? People are allowed to just not show up at work last minute? And no one does anything about it?
Chicago Illinois 😂
they are union they do what they want
Emergency happens...
@@DanMeyer80 Specifically, unionized Government employees. You practically have to (end) a coworker in front of multiple witnesses to get fired. And then an arbitratir will probably give you your job back. However- if a unionized Government employee happens to piss off a politician, they're done. And the Union will throw up their hands and say "Sorry, nothing we can do." In my bitter experience over a 30+ year career in State Government, when an employee screwed up and legitimately deserved to be disciplined or fired, the Union had their back. But if an innocent, hardworking employee was getting screwed over by management, the Union was suddenly a paper tiger.
It's not as it sounds. People get sick. Emergencies happen. Another thing that happens is drivers work different schedules because transit is a seven day a week job. If you're driving a route that carries 5 people per trip every 30 minutes and another route that youre qualitfied on that carries 60 people evey 10 minutes, has someone on vacation or whatever, that driver is probably running the other route if he or she is qualified. And now the earlier route has no operator.
I’m not a bus driver but I see how they get treated and understand why people are flocking away from the job, the shit they have to put up with..smh
@V.P.N.....It's the passenger's responsibility to not be a dickhead while on the bus. I know this is a hard concept for you to understand, but bus drivers are people too and don't like being treated like dirt.
@V.P.N..... it's everyone's job in life to be happy and if being a bus driver sucks because of dickhead passengers or whatever, then it's everyone's job to avoid doing it ...same goes for teaching...
@V.P.N..... Don't piss of American warehouse worker or cop....they will end you if you ruin their bad days
@@mali-cat it hard not to be a dickhead when the drivers are dickheads to passengers having been a bus passenger waiting for buses been treated like dirt
It's the same here in Las Vegas. While we aren't as large as Chicago and the surrounding area, our bus system is doing the same thing. I take 3 busses to and from work, unless the first bus going home takes more than 30 minutes to arrive, then it's 2. When I head to work in the morning, I can deal with the first bus being a little late because it's normally no more than 5 minutes, but sometimes the second bus will take 45 minutes and that makes me late especially when I have to wait for a third bus that takes more than 15 minutes. And they have the nerve to us to "Please plan accordingly".
Also I saw news report of drivers wanting more security because of assaults.a lot of those assaults the drivers bring on themselves.they talk to people rudely and snap as if you annoying them if you ask them a question.
The way it works is like this, certain routes are undesirable so people call out. Since these routes are undesirable when guys see the open work available they don’t pick it up. In my agency they split the work as overtime so you can do someone’s first half and someone else can pick up the second half depending on when you’re done or when you report. Other things to consider are traffic, routes running late due to odd occurrences like construction etc.. they also can get cut short and turned around midway through the route to supplement for the other portion of the route not getting service. There’s many variables that people don’t understand especially if an agency is understaffed. Also remember if there are new hires on the road they’re going to 1000% be late. It’s not always the bus operators fault, trust me we want to be on time. Supervision doesn’t do their job half the time and just lets the route go to crap. That’s why you see buses bunching after waiting 30 minutes for one. Can’t forget the co workers who will refuse to go around the bus in front of them because they don’t want to pick anyone up! Lol
Usually, as a rider, I've gotten the impression that those drivers not wanting to pick up more passengers are most likely at the end of their shift and don't want to be waiting around too long before they can drop the Out of Service sign and head to the depot. (Usually I've found that at one station here in Toronto, they tend to stop at the furthest bus bay from the station itself, which sucks for those with mobility issues.)
Troof! lol. I do wonder if safety regs. forbid drivers from overtaking? Either way it was annoying to see it happen. Now I just forbear and ride on two wheels.
Using the bus is as bad as a toxic relationship.
The CTA should be sued. This is ridiculous
Why should they be sued, that makes no sense
Yes they should. Taking our money and no service or horrible service.
@@SEXPOTHELLION8 they don't take your money until you're on the bus lol lol, stop
@@rondas7772😂😂😂 wtf
They're talking about tax payers money
Not even from the US but this applies to everywhere. Public transit should be a priority. The more reliable and frequent the service is, the better it is for riders and the more riders you will gain. If it's easier to take the bus or other alternative than driving and it's relatively quick, more people will stop driving, which lowers traffic and speeds up service of buses, and it just keeps getting better. Quieter cities, better air quality, fewer car accidents, the benefits go on.
C'mon, man! Just move to one of their brand new fancy 15 minute cities where everything is within 15 minutes so long as not a single solitary thing goes wrong ever. XD
This has been an issue for years. I remember this being an issue in 2008 and it hasn't changed at all, probably gotten worse.
@V.P.N..... Which some drivers probably absolutely hate.
It should be pointed that these problems affect the less wealthy, the more vulnerable. That is a problem by itself!
Funny how even Democrat run cities and states seem to tread down the downtrodden even more. The "working poor" are the most abused and mistreated group in the country, no question. They work two, three, or more jobs, for the privilege of enjoying a lower standard of living than the Welfare class. And illegals now have a higher standard of living than the Welfare Class.
You can steal a car, get caught, serve your time, and still have time to get a snack before your bus shows up.
Hilarious lol.
we can use public buses for migrants but not for the homeless this is slap to citizens face im disgusted by this county overall. When I become millionaire watch how i make sh*t happen for my folks this county alone is so backwards
America has the most millionairs and billionaires of ANY country 🇺🇸
Atta girl... seriously the politicians are beyond corrupt.
You have to be part of the “club”. Old money from old money families. New millionaires don’t have that kind of pull.
@@lauralarrabee7870 not true
@@flickboogers9325 There’s only 13 families that have clout. The rest of us are peasants compared to the kind of power and money these people have.
I'd be on time as a bus driver I drove for a delivery company 9yrs I was always on time and never missed work. Being on time is my model 🧑✈️
As a person who used to be a bus driver. You will absolutely not always be on time. Virtually impossible during the day.
This actually happens in Milwaukee too! I wonder if its a nationwide issue? 🤔
We seem to not have that problem here in Texas....
Same in my city
Happens in NJ all the time. The buses to NYC
It's notably worse in Phoenix
B lacks ruin everything and pass the blame. Nobody would want to work in those areas with those people not even their own
pace needs to be on the news too because these drivers be taking naps
CTA too.
I’m confused 🤷♀️ why they can’t take naps??
And they run every 30 mins. to a hr. if you miss those buses you f***** and they stop running early what about the peoples who get off of work late?
@@keepingupwith_moebecause it's cold as fuck and they inconvenience others on their way to work. They get paid to DRIVE, they need to drive them bitches.
Yes I just said the same thing that this not a CTA only problem, it's pace too, and pace is worst in my belief. And the drivers have attitudes with us when they pull up as if we're not the ones about to be late for work because of their delays. 🤦🏽♂️
i'm so glad they made a video on this. cta needs to be cracked down on. they so desperate for workers that they're hiring irresponsible people who frequently are late or don't show up for work. meanwhile the riders suffer by waiting vulnerably in the cold.
Like if we were in New York or somewhere warmer I’d be fine but Chicago is fuckin torturous
Yup. These irresponsible drivers show up to work high or drunk and they often drive past your stop when you ring the bell to get off.
@@DiscreteNature yes and be having attitude problems and are never courteous and apologetic about delays (or them just being late as sh*t).
I've been a commuter for 30 years, and have lived in multiple cities. This happens in every single one of them. It's frustrating, and there has to be a solution.
I'm not from Chicago, but I ride the bus in my city, and that IS annoying! Imagine the people that have been late getting to work, or picking their child up from school cause of this. I hope they get it fixed ASAP.
Over here in Utah, same issue. The drivers don’t care about the schedule, and yes they deliberately get behind schedule too just to spite riders. Hence why I stopped using as much as possible. Got an electric bike, got a closer job. 😡🤬public transit and yet the state keeps funding their incompetent service to no end. 😡🤬
Not just CTA! PACE TOO!!
Oh goodness. I hate pace
When I was in Hong Kong in the 90s. If you go to a bus stop, the bus comes right away. If the bus is to full, usually you can see the next bus coming. They also had many other modes of transportation that were all very dependable. Chicago needs lots more buses so there’s a constant stream of them and no one would have to wait more than 10 or 15 minutes. If there’s not enough passengers, use smaller buses.
That sounds like a problem here in Detroit Michigan we've been having that problem for years
Probably like the trucking shortage, garbage pay / working conditions and a drug test that tests for THC metabolites in ur system that goes back 30+ days all in a state where it’s legal, taxed, and prescribed 😂😂
If your a non smoker Chicagoan and a bus driver I know your stressed out.Such a pity you not allowed to smoke it off
No but you can slam liquor the night before ur shit and be a hungover nightmare the next day 😂😂
Been this way in my town in New York for YEARS. And it ensures that people in this town CAN'T LEAVE to find work. An excellent trap for the low income families. And a great way for companies to keep screaming "Nobody wants to work"
All those no show busses have been drafted by the city and are now warming busses.
Warming bus for immigrants,
We don't need a name for it..we need it fixed. It's unfair
It’s crazy that they never fail to collect taxes but when it comes to providing the services that the money is supposed to go to it like🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
Most goes to the po po to babysit to peoples and folks yo
You're starting to figure it out. Keep going.
Those busses look old af.. Damn Chicago, what are you spending the money on?
$$ going to support your sanctuary city status that you voted 4.😅
Immigrant
Nothing important
@@winnhill3736 Clown I don't even live in Chicago, and I'm not a Democrat. Got anything original?
Liberal bullshit.
26, 6 and 71 routes are also pretty bad. 30 minutes or more for a bus. I leave 2 hours early for a 1 hour commute because I know the commute will take so much time and half the time is for waiting on the bus. Its especially bad at night. I have had to let job opportunities go because I just can't rely on the CTA or Pace to get to work
Exactly. I'm seriously considering letting my job go. Maybe look at work from home. It's horrible out here
One time the #5 night bus never came. So Im just sitting at 69th red line looking dumb at 12am-1am in the morning.. Had to call a lyft home. Me saying I was infuriated would be an understatement. Never did that one again.
That happened to me years ago, I got off the Red line at 55th St. waiting for a bus to come at 12am. The police pulled up and said the bus stopped running and offered to take me home.
The dysfunction of Chicago and the complete incomptetence of the people in charge is nonstop entertainment :)))
Makes sense to me.
Sounds like texas power grid
Sounds like someone who is obsessed with a city they don't live in
Do you live in a rural area, or a N.I.M.B.Y. suburb? It's not as if housing projects, Section 8, homeless shelters, cheap apartments, etc., are evenly spread out, right? We can't all live in splendid isolation, right?
Are you just as entertained by "dysfunction" in Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Newark, New Orleans, St. Louis, East St. Louis, Cleveland, K.C., D.C., L.A., Inside Job City, Philadelphia, Little Rock, Milwaukee, Oakland, Gary, Mobile, Jackson, Camden, Birmingham, Flint, Louisville, Cincinnati, Atlanta, Buffalo, etc.?
What state do you live in?
He’s just jealous that until very recently we had a way that to get around that was extremely reliable to the point you didn’t need a car.
I have waited for that 22 forever, even though I am not a regular commuter !! My experience says, I have waited more than 20 minutes each time I tried to take that 22 and the surprising thing is, its soo unplanned, that after 20 / 30 minutes, 2 of the 22 comes back to back together
In NYC we experience the same. The US's public transit system is a joke😑😤
Sounds like they can hire drivers, they just can't keep them. The new drivers probably didn't realize how much abuse they get from the riders every day. Maybe build a plexiglass cage to protect the driver.
Obviously u don't live in Chicago, they have plexiglass, they've had it for years, there's a driver shortage bcz drivers can't pass the background, theyre always hiring
Nah. That little shield ain't gonna get it. They need an enclosed area for the bus operators to sit. Just like the motor cab the the train operators sit in. Some cities have started an enclosed area for bus operators.
@@ricosuave3565 they do have it
Also but drivers like the mail man have some of the highest state government protection for being just an every day guy. The courts will throw the book at u if u so much as even touch them. Any harassment to them is literally a felony of many years in jail, it's like coming at a cop the wrong way except u don't get shot😂
*Channel 7 should do a story on PACE too because their buses run about one per hour so when a bus is canceled it's a 2 hour wait and, since the pandemic started, the Touhy 290 bus is the WORST!*
There is a shortage of drivers which is the main reason why they don't run. However they shouldn 't appear on the app unless they are actually on the road. Then short of an accident or something they will turn up.
But, actually showing the true status of the buses would make the managers look bad, CTA look bad, and the politicians who theroretically oversee CTA look bad. So, you game the numbers to make the service look like it's running fine, when it's actually a train wreck. Orwell, Heinlein and Rand are all sitting in the Afterlife going "Told ya so!"
15,000 trips a day x 20 months = 9.1 million trips. 360,000 is 4% of that. 4% cancelled trips is not insignificant.
it sure is, if it’s cold outside and you’re standing there waiting for an hour.
Chicago CTA is a dumping ground for politicians family members who lack any type of work ethic.
Bullshit but maybe at the main office that might apply 😂
i feel bad for the drivers just trying to do their jobs leadership just doesn’t want shit to happen
This is true!
@@cassidy_c half these drivers are bums and so are their leadership who allow them to stay employed.
Dump is right. 👎🏿
I just want to thank the reporter for explaining right away what ghost buses are, that's the only reason I clicked on the video
University student in Ohio. I rely on our COTA bus line for transportation.
The number of times buses just don't show up causes my anxiety to skyrocket. Students and everyone else have classes to be at. Work to get to. Places we can't afford to be late to. Sunk-cost fallacy keeps me waiting often times, hoping the bus miraculously appears when I could have just walked to my destination by the time the bus pulls up an hour later.
It's so bad, that the first time I got to work late and simply say "COTA", my manager told me he'd calculate that in for the future, and me being late wouldn't be an issue so long as I gave him a heads up. It's late so often, everyone knows its unreliable. But we still rely on this broken system...
hunh? When I foolishly relied on govt. transit I left up to an hour earlier to compensate.
You're in a toxic relationship. Find alternatives.
People are tired of working in unsafe conditions.
Rude and unruly passengers.
Low wages.
When you get workers who are tired, that trickles onto their performance.
The burnout is real!!
The small fraction happens enough to be a problem..
Exactly
What they're not telling you: the UNIONS are the ones causing the problems. The constant call offs are defended by the union, the 'full time positions' are held by people with higher seniority, meaning only 50-100 of those 700 drivers will have a dedicated run. The rest are on the 'extra board', which means they have to cover the run when a regular driver calls off, which creates this situation. It takes an average of an hour to get a new driver in the seat. Those extra board people are also paid peanuts compared to the regular drivers, and are worked to the point where its an abuse of the 11 and 14 hour rules. Some of them are never home and spend most of their time working for half the pay of the regular drivers, which is why so many of them quit and leave rather than wait around for 20 years for the older seniority people to retire or die.
Then you have the traffic problems, and the problem of the people you pick up. Each stop takes 15 seconds on average. If each passenger pulls the handle on every street corner or bus stop, that time adds up, which leads to delays. The bus should stop at designated stops only, which would save time. But people are lazy and dont like to walk. And if you dont drop them where they want to go, theyll complain to the head office, resulting in possible termination. Only the worst of the worst drivers are allowed to remain on board as well. None of the good ones make it past the 5 year mark. And the union board is usually made up of a group of people who are friends or in a long standing group.
And Europeans still go: “Why don’t Americans use public transport more often than using personal cars?”
This. This is one reason why.
I'm originally from Cleveland and the CTA/Pace systems are a major part of why I moved here.
Many busses in Cleveland and suburbs run every hour outside of rush hour and on weekends. And you have to walk a distance in certain pockets just to get to where you want to go.
CTA and Pace have been ok for me so far and I've be all over the Chicago area for over 12 years.
you ever catch pace in the south suburbs youll see that same 1-2 hour wait for the bus
@@Kuttdogwhy would anyone go to the south suburbs 😂
@@blackcherry6877 my mom moved us out there when I was 16 needless to say I moved back promptly when I was 18 😭😭😭
@@Kuttdog Yep! My mom did too and I moved out of the south burbs as well when I became an adult, I feel you.
You are delusional
The sad thing is they have a black man in charge doing such a disservice to his people. There is no way you can wait an hour for a bus and then the head of CTA tells a reporter that there is usually another bus within 3 minutes. If you hear the people, you would fix the problem. It couldn't be that many employees calling in sick on a daily basis. They are not fixing the problem because, CTA is profitting and the areas affected are predominately Black Americans. I have been riding buses all of my life, and I have seen how the system makes immediate when White Americans report an incident verses Black Americans regarding transit. To say it is only a small fraction of buses late is saying it is in urban areas and we don't care. What a pathetic excuse from one Black American to another.
I don't think he cares at all.
Unfortunately... Money Talks!! The more a Zip Code contributes to the Tax base... the more services they get... such as Public Transportation... even though it isn't a Service they need that much!! Live in a Rich part of Toronto (though I'm broke as a Joke)... and see it all the time from Overnight buses running like Clockwork (even when the Ridership is Homeless People) to bus lines running as much as needed to make sure everybody is seated during their Trip... such is the Power of a Zip Code! Heck even a Food Bank from an illusive Zip Code... gives u access to an abundance of food! First time I went... expected 1... maybe 2 bags or Rice... they gave me a $400 haul... with Fresh fruits and all!!
Faxs 😔
Another reason to avoid big cities and relying upon government officials to fix or improve anything!!
This is why public transit is deemed not a reliable source of transportation for employers. We need to fix the transportation system.
This morning my commute was 2 hours because i guess two drivers on the 28 "called in" ... I'm an hour late for work. Thanks CTA
Pace specifically needs to work on this as well.
Had something in my gut not told me to check my usual time to get to work just to realize my everyday bus was canceled for whatever reason, I would've been late.
The fucking 386 bus lmao
That happens here in Arizona too, with valley Metro ...
The worst are 22/ Clark and 55/ Devon and 49B /Western
Many times the drivers like to run 2-3 buses in the same time.
They don't care !
The transportation system in the USA is a disaster. 100 years behind Europe and Asia
Good reporting.
I think this happens nationwide. Also occurs here in San Francisco.
It was literally faster walking from Pulaski to Harlem down Archer. Took the walk as I was waiting til I found out I already made it home with not 1 bus in site. It was more reliable to take a bike through the snow to get to work, I even made it from Harlem to downtown faster than the bus surprisingly. Bus drove passed me 2 minutes into Chinatown. That’s the 62nd bus btw on archer. Not everyone can ride a bike or even afford a car from all the state taxes, hope from all the taxes were being charged with will finally fix this issue.
Nah CTA got bunch of lazy bus drivers
Or maybe they just tired of dealing with ignorant Mfs 🤔
It's not that, they don't have enough drivers
The buses are keeping the illegals warm😂😂😂
Aren't they using them to warm up migrants? They're taking millions and just sending a few buses
I asked the CTA about this last year and basically I followed their advice. I use public transport Mon-Fri days but Sat-Sun or any time after hours I drive
This has been happening for years in my experience while on the south side of Chicago
How many bus drivers have been shot and killed. Are YOU ALL LOOKIMG FOR NEW DRIVERS?
Yes they're hiring all the time, no drivers have been killed
Thank you so much for taking the phrase "ghost bus" and not letting clay higgens take and use it for silly conspiracies
There are a lot of the issues that most ppl r not willing to drive the bus because of how the public acts...towards the driver...and most cases, the pay isn't worth the hassle.
When a driver call off it affects the ppl that depends on transportation.But unfortunately things happens unexpectedly n their lives 2.
yes, but that’s why you don’t have minimal staffing (like 24 bus routes and 24 drivers)
@@jeanesingsjazz
I agree 💯
BRUH THIS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE BUS TRACKER FIRST CAME OUT TF ARE YALL TALKING ABOUT??? Smfh 🤦🏾♂️
😂😂😂 Same thing happens here in kansas city. I have a car now but ride the bus every now and then just to do it. Same problems still happening.
Although public transit is free here still would irritate me if relied on the bus to get to work. Which i have in the past.
All over the city , cta almost made me lose my job recent. I lost the one before this one i got written up 3 times because cta employees found a loop whole to make us wait. Never a bus behind!!! They are not listening the problem is not short staff its the active employee that is messing up the system all over the city ard
This is why I started using the Uber scooters in the summer because of these constant delays and I just rather pay that extra 2 dollars for the same ride than be late to work and be fired! Wake up early or just plan ahead if the same thing keeps happening we all know that same driver that calls off will continue to do it until fired so find another route even if you have to walk the next block for another bus that runs the same direction you are planning.
So when are we going to be like Japan and china and just have an amazing robust subway,/ metro system that comes every 10 minutes?
The average American’s work and school ethics wouldn’t make a pimple on an Asian Person’s ass! 😂😂😂
When they get rid of you know who
@@Maaaatttttt no ? Who ? Why ? How does that make sense
That must have been a ghost bus when I was at the Midway. Good thing someone from Chicago called and SNITCHED!!!! But we had to wait two and a half hours for a bus to arrive. Other than that, Chicago wasn't a bad experience. Keep it classy Chicagoland!!!!
I ride the bus now that I don't have a car and the Transit app is pretty decent at keeping track. But there have been a couple times when the bus said it was a couple stops away (or arriving) and never did. Frustrating to have to wait to guess if another will come or not..
its a self-defeating problem. US public infrastructure is so bad that when people start to make more money they would rather buy a car. This in turn causes the transit service to lose out on much needed revenue to improve the system.
WRONG!
@A_Chicago_Man how so? i have family members who drive buses and they tell me the same thing.
@@thanosianthemadtitanicthey have plenty of money.
Runs are mostly cancelled due to no Relief drivers, or believe or not no buses! My cousin has worked for the CTA for 19 years, folks they still need to fill a 902 driver shortage, please be patient… CTA is doing everything that they can.
They are going to have to change the system. They need to provide a safe working environment for their drivers. A bulletproof glass box for protection.
That is an unacceptable answer. If they are having a driver shortage, they need this to be reflected on the app. Live tracking means nothing if it's not accurate 100% of the time. It's literally a huge guess as a rider if you will get to where you are going on time. Not ok
This is a problem in Cincinnati as well lol. It’s reallyyyy bad in the Winter season. We don’t really have this issue throughout the year until like Oct - March. I couldn’t imagine dealing with ts year round
Similar problem where I live in BC Canada. 💀 you get more luck in the downtown areas, but if you live in the suburbs it’s torture. There was one right in front of my old highschool that was notorious for this.
Sounds like the blueline.
Sounds like my old ride also.😊
Get ready for RoboBus
How many people have lost their jobs because this transit service just can’t do the bare minimum??! Sickening
And they wonder why we want to keep our cars.
Sounds like they need to enhance their drug and alcohol testing.. And include management..
“ rules for thee not for me “ - management
What about owner is he the Presidentvwho used to be on Cook County Board. All put relatives or sons get voted in & never like the father parent some so much worse even if better nothing seems to matter to who is in power forget where one came from get $$ & run or hide cause not much changed in last few years except more crime, less police, ppl who care & try ignored so ppl born here are destitute & ppl bussed here do not need to suddenly get jobs to drive cta bus especially if using alleys , drugs, throwing diapers garbage to point residents by 8thnprecinct can even get their garbage picked up for emptying theirs & then cars riding around picking up girls for prostitution. Who are the guys in cars?... whole mess.... wasnt all wonderful before 10000 ppl bussed here now overcrowding . All I wonder so terrible in Countries ppl do anything get here & suddenly we give all away. Wheres pride, help.....only so much then where are parents or No parents of young doing all these shootings robberies....go to jail come out do again..... not sure of answer but here 70yrs plus....definately changed South side.