The NEW KING OF PORTRAIT LENSES? Hands on with the Nikon 85mm F1.2
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You cant see effects of aperture blades when the lens is wide open because the blades are fully retracted. They'll come into play as you stop down
Yep, you see the roundness at f2.
Yeah Mee too just came to write this
Yeap....at 1.2 it doesn't matter 9 or 10 or 11 blades
A complete waste of money
@@johnflannery9401 LOL
I been following Manny since this channel started because I came during the end of the pervious channel . I can't believe your almost at 700k . the leap of faith paid off .
I still use my old 85mm 1.8 G with FTZ in my z6 II
My clients still like very much.
I like your reviews over JP. You always have good pros and cons and never appear biased or hypocritical. Thanks for your channel.
Nice Nikon ! Like in dslr era at the end Nikon will always be superior even if it’s late lol
Nikon for the win!
The Sigma 85 1.4 DG DN for e Mount has 11 blades as well. Portraits come out fantastic with that lens
Jared Polin has confirmed on his video that he is having the same "Eye lashes" auto focus issue with the Canon. This is not a specific issue on a Nikon and can be found on Canon and Sony cameras, too.
^ Correct 👍🏻
Hey Manny thanks for the honest quick look at the 85mm 1.2. I'm on a waiting list for the lens. Keep it going brother. Chuck
Thank you Manny for that insightful, and thought through preview of this lens. I think you made some excellent observations and comparisons and did justice to both Nikon and Canon on this one.
I am a Nikon guy and have been for over 30 years, and am admittedly biased (a little - I try to stay objective). I think this Nikon lens will be spectacular and I already pre-ordered my copy from NPS this morning.
In general, I like that Nikon takes care to go the extra mile with their optics: controlled focus breathing (in the lens - not the body like Sony), more aperture blades (this is subtle, but I think it the right direction for a lens of this type and price), kept the weight down and maintained a great balance in the hands, and kept the lens more silent - the Z lenses are doing the best job of providing high end pro lenses for both stills and video of the three big manufacturers in my opinion - and I have used the Canon system as well. This new Nikon 85mm 1.2 s lens is a shining example of this fact.
That said, there are no flies on the Canon version of this lens, and I have no doubt that as a portrait and wedding shooting either would crush the job.
Thanks again for your down to earth, common sense approach.
-PD
Great summary of the Nikon lenses. I wish more reviewers would point that out like you.
I wish Canon and Nikon made 1.4 lenses like the Sony's 35mm 1.4 GM and 24mm 1.4 GM. Small size with great quality.
Nikon seems to have made their f/1.8 S lenses as good at the f/1.4 G lenses, fulfilling your "small size with great quality" wish. It's likely that the next expensive (over $2k) Z lens will be the 35mm f/1.2, but that will be as big as the 50mm and 85mm f/1.2 lenses. I think you'll get your lens when Nikon uses the Tamron design for it, or lets Tamron make those Z lenses.
it's marketing strategy. Sony had a huge head start with the lens lineup. One way to catch up is to release F1.2 lenses instead of 1.4s. Looks better on paper.
@@j5daniel182 Nikon and Canon also have f/1.4 lenses in their previous mounts for anyone who really wants to use that. Nikon, in particular, made their f/1.8 S lenses at least as good as their f/1.4 G lenses.
I agree about the camera updates, and my guess is that the next three things Nikon releases in 2023 which are over $2k will be the Z6III, the Z7III, and the 35mm f/1.2. Hopefully the AF issues you found when close will be fixed in the firmware before the full production release.
Also another update for Z9
@@ADNZ5442 A Z9II seems most likely in the first half of 2024, with the upcoming Olympics.
@@UnconventionalReasoning maybe. I do believe they’ll stick to updates till 2025
@@ADNZ5442 that would be unfortunate. Have a Z9II for the 2024 Paris Olympics is very important.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Flagship camera have usually a 4 year cycle life. These cameras take a lot of time to design for durability etc. So I don't expect a new one until 2025. They will still update firmware for better autofocus etc. But it is already a formidable machine.
I totally agree that what Nikon should do now is to launch a Z6 III. They need just add the Z9 processor and autofocus to the Z6II, and we would get a very nice camera. I would buy it directly.
Good Call - Probably not possible to the current sensor Z6 - possibly in Z6 III see a derative to Sony A7 IV sensor (33 mp) and the Z7 III / Z8 use a dervative to Sony A7 R IV sensor (60mp)
THIS!!! We want Z6III that has AF in level with R6II, A7IV, S5II, etc... :)
@@unique93obr We also need a Z70 DX (R7) and then updates to Z50, Z30, ZFC, etc
Truth is clients don't give a toss about any of this stuff, they just want lovely flattering images and it doesn't really matter what lens or camera you use at all!
Daaang. This popped up on my feed and freakin' glad it was your video man. I've been looking forward to the Nikon 85 1.2S for such a LOONG time. Good to know its lighter than Canons. Great review as always, even though it's the pre-production model, was great to see what the 85 1.2S can do! :D
Coming from the Canon 1Dx series I left Canon for the Nikon Z9 and although it was a learning curve for me I am so happy with that very very customizable camera
Wow Manny you've done it again brother! Another great video content. Your knowledge base on all these types of lenses is incredible 👏
I have followed you for a couple years now and I've always appreciated your deep influences of photography, which convinced me to buy gear and get into photography myself. But unfortunately time got away from me when I got diagnosed with cancer and now all I do is spend every minute with my daughter, my little twin because life is short and never promised 💔
Born and raised in Chicago in Logan Square, I take time with my daughter and show her all the beauty of Chicago and try my best to build as much memories of us together ❤️
I thought of doing a photo shoot or video of some sort of us but never took the next steps to learn. Hopefully one day! 🙏 Thank you for devoting your time and sharing your knowledge and experiences to the world 🌎
Blessings to you brother 🙏
If Nikon released a Z8 and Z80 at CP+, that would be awesome. Not sure where it would leave the Z6 II (and to a lesser degree, the Z7 II) but I got a feeling this might be the right thing to do.
great review (as always)
so if you had to pick between the 85 1.2 and the 135 1.8 which would it be... primary use non-studio portraits
Kind of weird how Nikon does everything right and people still hate on them.
They have the best lenses out there by a wide margin.
Hate mostly from Canon and Sony users.
Great review, Manny! I'm on the waiting list for this lens - it will go on my Z9. I also agree with you about the camera updates. Nikon NEEDS to push out the Z6iii, Z7iii, and Z8 soon (all with phenomenal AF). Keep up the great work, brother! - Jon
Now after 11 months, we have Z8 and Zf - they are so great that we actually don’t need Z7 iii or Z6 iii
As a Nikon/Canon shooter I completely agree with you. Canon lenses are noisy, but take excellent pictures. Nikon lenses are almost dead quiet and take excellent pictures. The auto-focus does miss occasionally with shooting basketball for example, but it has such a high frame rate that it makes it kind of a moot point. Thanks for showing Nikon some love with an unbiased review.
Thanks Manny for it! What about focus breathing? My strenght are parades and there were many reason for chosing Z system for it. Sealed body (For heavy rain and salty air), no overheating issues (I do video 4K with Z9 and Z6II), no focus breathing is somelike key cause I compose close and away within 2 shots simultaneasly, Balanced system (no injuries on arm). All this at extreme low light conditions where I use ISo 2000 to 12500. Thousands of people pass through me and my focussing accuraccy is higher than 90%. A whole month of february at full action. Was imposible to to this with R5 and R6, they just shut down. So everytime I hear complain on Nikon, my experience as a professional photographer differs like you say.
According to Ricci Talks and Adorama this lens has no focus breathing. This is also important if you want to stack several images together with focus stacking. Thanks for your feedback. We need more people like you and not some CZcams guys that work mainly with Canon and Sony gear and have no experience with Nikon at all. By the way: Is the Canon R5 still overheating? This was a main issue with that camera on video recording. Just see how Canon has fixed this with the additional R5C model by applying a huge fan with lot of ventilation holes on the body.
When we get to choosing a lens based on the zooming noise, you know the difference in output between all these brands is really slimming down. Now you can pick a lens based on brand preference as opposed to so many distinct differences 5 years ago.
Nikon is killing it with the lenses. They are quiet and have no focus breathing unlike Canon.
Unlike Canon AND Sony which is the worst of all. Sony needs diigital in-camera corrections for everything on their lenses and correcting focus breathing is altering the focal length.
True and Sony has very noticeable breathing as well.
Nikon glass it's been real quiet for over a decade though.
Nikon really needs to reset people's expectations for good imaging equipment. For the past 3-5 years, there has been a singular focus on eye-AF (pun intended). Nikon images look great sooc, so any post work is enhancing rather than 'fixing'. Nikon photographers talk about 'color science' less than C/S because we have to worry about it less. Ergonomically and operationally, these cameras simply work. And the lenses...
@@UnconventionalReasoning I've been a nikon shooter since the D2H and colour science it's been amazing from the start, even though when they moved away from CCD to CMOS skin tones were kinda cooler. Sony colours are awful and Canon pushes the reds too much. As for Nikon we could deliver those jpg straight from the memory card.
85 is by far my favourite lens for work, unless there's no space for me to take a couple steps back, it's 85 all day long.
The Nikon also has an overlaa of the barrel infront on the front lens element which may help protect it.
Thanks for the great unbiased review Manny
Of course it’s worth it to buy the 85mm f1.2 no matter where you are shooting. I have both the Plena 135mm f1.8 and the Z85 1.2 and I cannot decide which of those two are the better even though I know that these are different focal lengths
Good stuff man. I have the Z9 and the z50 1.2s and look forward to adding the z 85 1.2 to the collection. Love that they both have the same filter size too.
You should spend your time testing the lens and not constantly comparing it to Sony and Canon. It's called a Nikon review. Just review the lens for Nikon shooters...
We Nikon shooters only need to compare it to the 85mm 1.8s
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I think the thing with the Canon RF f/1.2L glass (50mm and 85mm) is that they have some really hefty glass inside and some of that is moving while focusing. Canon has a better focusing system already (Nano USM) that they use in other lenses, but for those two, I think the focusing element(s?) are just so big that they had to use the older conventional USM focus motors. The RF 24-70 f/2.8L focuses much faster and quieter than the 50mm prime, but its aperture just isn't as big.
Hello Manny excellent content as always!!!I love the unfiltered honest reviews that you always give here on your channel keep them coming, also in your video you have a modifier that has 6 round openings. Did you make that or did you purchase somewhere ??
Thank you Manny for the video. I sooooo glad you said it!!! Nikon give us a Z6III, Z7III, Z8 or something. Glad you did the review of the 85mm 1.2 and I respect your opinion.
Gotta wait at least 2 years for the z6iii, the mark II was just a quick response of the lack of dual memory slots.
You said it bro, I've been using the Z6 since it's release and have been dying to get my hands on a Z6iii.
9 vs 11 blades and you can't see the difference? Of course you won't see it at f1.2. The difference will be noticeable when you stop the lens to f2, or even better to f4.
Nikon keeps assuring me that I made the right choice by not selling my Z lenses when I switched to Sony A7iv. Camera is ok wasn't what I expected but good enough to use till a Z6iii or Z8 is released. Thanks Manny great video.
Looks like a Brilliant Portrait lens. I can't afford it but I can see it working magic in the hands of a Professional.
Knocking on the Z9 af is splitting hairs especially at 1.2
At this point the big 3 (Nikon Sony canon ) are all pretty good and have pros and cons with each system.
I'm a nikon shooter and if I knew how good the Z9 would be I'd saved myself from getting the z6ii and just drop another 3k for it.
I can't say from direct experience but it seems from all major reviewers, the Nikon AF is a step behind Canon and Sony. Maybe it's not a big step, but definitely a step.
Thank you for your honest thoughts, especially at the end of the video. A lot of Nikon loyalists like saying everything is fine in the Z6ii and Z7ii, but as a Nikon shooter myself I could REALLY use what Canon and Sony have in their bodies. Like R6ii, R5, A7iv, A7RV, all amazing..... Z6ii and Z7ii? They're alright... I really want to use the full extent of Nikon's stellar glass!
I woldn't call myself a loyalist, but what do they have? I'd love (just some) of the Z9 video specs in the Z6ii successor but I really don't have any critiques of the Z6ii performance. Low light monstrosity, the AF is very close to perfect once you learn how to drive it properly... can't really fault it. Would definitely love a Z8/step up though
I love learning from your videos to help studio work. You should consider doing some more videos about the entire process of lighting your subject correctly, Maybe showing something wrong as well. I look forward to learning! Thanks legend.
Your getting eyelash AF because you are using auto area plus auto subject detection, select human and 3D tracking and you will be good to go. 3D is better at depth when using eye detection. It's not a bash its something I have noticed while using my Z9 trying to shoot erratic children lol.
Really? Good to know.
You as a Canon shooter have a look on Nikon gear. That's fine. I like it. Thank you for the comments on the Nikon S 85 mm f/1.2. Popular or not let me say: Pentax released two years ago its full frame D FA 85 mm f/1.4, which is so far away from the recent Pentax reputation (APC-C, small budget, entry level cameras in all colors etc.). I use it myself. It really performs superbly, fast AF. What about having a look on this stuff from time to time beside the main stream gear?
I like the little peek in the studio and the set up you have. Gives me ideas as I'm just a hobbyist photographer.
Manny, you forgot to list the adapter mounting the GoPro. Where do I find it?
You hit the nail on the head about the depth of field vs autofocus.
What a difference in skin tone????? WTF? amazing, well done Nikon, much more natural!
In regards to the lashes, if you change your focus to Wide plus people instead of using the whole frame and maintaining the box on her head you'll more often than not remove this issue.
You are so correct, a Nikon Z6 III and Z7 III is what everyone is waiting for. The Z6 ii and Z7 ii are being discounted now the Z8 is here, so maybe those new cameras are just a few months away.
Spot on about Z6iii. I have my Z9, but need a Z6iii to replace my Z6ii.
A good photographer would nail focus on a 1.2 aperture on manual mode. It's not the Z9, it's user error.
Powerful and to the point, Manny you are no hype, all substance!
I tested this out at the b&h event here in NYC and my GOD it's amazing.
Thanks Manny for the great review and pleading to Nikon to release or at least make a new body announcement already. Canon and Sony have released like 10 cameras since the z6ii came out. What are they waiting for, we need a light at the end of the tunnel.
Thank you for mentioning it to nikon for all of us that are still waiting on camera upgrades. I shoot z7ii and I can't rely on auto focus when you have subject moving in or out and especially when back-lit. Been shooting nikon 20 years, 85mm is my favorite focal distance but until I see what z6iii or z7iii does I won't get this 85.
It is the second review that I see of the Nikon 1.2 and my order is in. What I saw in the Canon vs Nikon is that the Nikon is more flattering. It is as if the Canon adds a pound or so to a portrait. Biased? 😊
That z9 body looks dope af i dont think you were front focusing you were just too close and ran into the maximum focus distance
It's good to hear a more balanced view and not the biased Nikon reviewers out there
I would like to see a comparison with the 105 1.4 f mount yes its not a z mount but to see if its worth to finally let my 105mm go
2:21 you can see the nikon looks a bit smoother and rounder it really comes into play as you stop down the lens a bit
That pic at 2:08 is dope!🔥I love seeing shots that you can't get with an iPhone.
Phone? I would never use a phone for more advanced photography. Colors, tones, depth, selective focus, low light capabilities, dynamic range, details, resolution, flash photography, long or multi exposures, filter systems with polarizer, nd filter and so on. Everything is on another level than on a phone. But i review my images on a very good 27-inch monitor from Dell.
lol u basically cant get any photo that a proper camera can on a freaking phone. Phone cameras are okay for daily use but not anything serious regarding photography.
@@ThatNorma Oh I know that. But the reality is, smart phones have been eating to sales of prosumer cameras for a while. I increasingly see them used in situations where it should be a pro camera. I think photos like the one I pointed out make a good case pro photography for those who might not be as knowledgeable on the subject.
@@AllgoodthingsTv mate I will agree with u that phones take a lot of market from cameras but not prosumers, just regular casual people. Been in photography for 20 years and never in my life seen a phone replace a camera for professional work. And i mean real professional work not some youtube recordings. If you see people using phones for professional jobs then those people are just downgrading the quality of their work. Heck even smartphone/tech youtubers still use professional grade cameras for their videos instead of the phones they praise so much.
@@ThatNorma Check out the 2022 Vanity Fair article "How The Iphone 14 Could Upend The High-End Camera Market"... It's discussed on plenty of YT channels as well. I agree that the top, top photographers are not using iPhones for pro shoots, but I'm talking about people who might've been hired by someone to take their grad pics just 10 years ago. Now, they just get a friend to snap shots with a smartphone using that fake bokeh look. That's a big part of the prosumer market - the casual hobbyist. And that's where I see smartphones eroding prosumer sales. But photos like the one at 2:08 cannot be replicated by a smartphone (at least not yet)
I think I'll keep my 50 1.2 which I find above every lens of that aperture, to date I use it a lot in fashion shots and it has never disappointed my expectations as well as those of my clients.
I can't wait for the Z6iii or Z7iii.
Once Nikon gets the AF ironed out.. they're gonna be a problem.
Impressive, Coming from a Canon shooter that love his RF85 f1.2.
You nailed at at the end of the video before anyone knew, “Nikon, give us a Z8!” Foreshadowing?. ❤🎉😅 Great video, BTW.
Its a lens that i have longing for, now i shoot the most with the Nikon 105f1.4 on my Z9 but 85f1.2 is what i need. Its just one sick thing with it in Sweden, its like 1000$ higher in pricing than the U.S
We have been waiting in vain for that new camera body from Nikon. Let's hope it drops this year.
I personally think I still own the king... 105 F1.4... LOVE IT!
08:50 This section, where you look at it from a non-youtuber perspective, thinking about our pockets. Thanks for that. Too many youtubers try and sell us on the latest and greatest. So it's good you are coming from a much more grounded angle. I would suggest only go for a 1.2 if I were shooting paid professional or high level creative work. Amateurs who spend their hard earned cash on a 1.2m thinking it will improve their photography could be in for a disappointment, if they don't know what they are doing.
I prefer my Viltrox 75mm 1.2 ;) it becomes a 112,5mm focal on the APSC Z system and also provides beautiful 21MP portraits on my Z8 for a fraction of the 85mm 1.2 price 😊
Speaking of 85mm, for Fuji shooters... GF 110mm f/2 is the ONE!! For Fuji X, well everyone is lusting on the new Viltrox 75mm f/1.2!! 🥵
Totally agree with the Z8
5:54 I guess canon feels pretty good as you can’t stop grubbing it 😊
You can't see difference at all between aperturesl blades if you are shooting wide open because the blades don't come into play until you stop down. You have made this mistake before and I mentioned it to you but looks like you didn't read my message.
Hey Manny. Thanks for this video. Where can I get that bracket that holds your GoPro fit recording the screen on your Nikon?? What model is it? Thanks man!🙂
I’m so confused several months ago you said Goodbye to Nikon, now you are doing a review on Nikon
Great review. I would love your opinion comparing 105mm 1.4 to the 85 mm 1.2 Nikon. I would also love your opinion waiting for 135 1.8 on the roadmap. I love bokeh and the 105 is magical (like the 200 f2). I also love the look of compression. So I’m wondering if you would wait for 135? Do you think the 85mm 1.2 has a more clinical feel than 105 1.4 f mount Nikon? I really respect your opinion and I watched your previous video that compared similar lenses in the past so I would love your opinion based on the above criteria on this lens it’s a very expensive option and I am professional portrait photographer, so I would love this lens, but I would like to invest wisely. Thanks for your perceptive review.
I am going to be controversial. As someone who has owned some of the best portrait lenses available for Nikon and Fujifilm. For the vast majority of photographers 85mm f/1.2 isn't worth it. Yes, you are getting more bokah but the odds are the people who a view a printed image are not really going to notice the difference, unless you put 2 images, one shot at f/1.2 and one shot at f/1.8 next to each other.
I will be even more controversial, you could probably use an old Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D and most people (apart from the photographer) wouldn't really care, when viewing an image.
Owning super expensive portrait lenses is in many ways a massive vanity exercise, to boost the ego of the photographer, who is going to pixel peep the hell out of an image. The public, really don't care about lenses, they just like a good portrait. I am not saying people shouldn't buy a lens. It is fun owning expensive lenses, knowing that you have less purple fringing, a slightly sharper image or a less vignetting than an older lens.
Fully agree with this.
10:50 what about for 50mm? Can you share the review lens? I guess 28mm make distortion right?
Nikon = NiKING :) we back baby, all we need is that Z8!!!
That 85 on the Z9 crushed that Cannon, YIKES!
Hey Manny, I need your help. I bought an Atamos for my Nikon Z9. How do you record the evf while shooting pictures. Every time, after I shoot 2 pictures, the Atamos stops recording. How can I make the Atamos continually record the evf even if I shoot 100 pictures ??? Thanks man!😀
Nikon KILLED THIS.
So glad I got rid of all me new gear envy years ago! I make fantastically easy crazy money doing studio portraits with the exact same camera and lens for the last 7 years! Canon 1DX original and 24-105 f4. That's all I need. Money pours in a nd people gush all over the image quality even thou its only 18MP sensor. Absolutely no need for an upgrade.
But this here is about Nikon - not old Canon gear.
Good Documentary - think that with further F/ware updates on Z cameras may improve operation between Z Camera and Z lens - only think that Z9 will be really enhanced for this lens and its 2nd Gen AF. Fingers cross for Nikon to pull its socks up and Get Z7 III / Z8, Z6 III and a Z70 (R7 rival) out of the door in 2023.
You can't see difference between 11 and 9 blades at f1.2! LOL. It's wide open. Stop it down to 2.8 or 4... 11 blades will make more rounder bokehballs and more rays in sunstars (22 vs 18)
what's that bracket you're using for the gopro?
Bro 105 mm 1.4 sigma art ! with sony a7iv is the king ! ;) Im rocking 105 mm .14 art on Nikon d750 + Sony A7iv aswell ! ;)
Yes and I am still waiting for the Z6III Z7 III or Z8 for a longgggg timeeeee now........
haven't got a reliable Z series mirrorless, only won a Z50 from photo competition, and the focusing is a hit or miss....
Thank you for addressing, with such candour, whether it's worth buying 85mm f/1.2 over 85mm f/1.8. By the way, may I know what devices you had on your Z9 in this video?
Your follower from Iraq, my friend, I hope to try the lens in outdoor photography and not in the studio. I love you
1:34 great shot
How does it compare to the Sigma 85 1.4?
Wait I thought you sold your Z9(?). Great preview on the 85, thanks!
Thanks for the review. I will stick to my Z85mm f/1.8 for now.
Remember your "Good bye Nikon" video some time ago? That was not a clever or good idea in retrospect for your credibility.
Not really. He just said he didn’t use the Z9 as often as the others that’s why he sold it.
@@MichaelAres CZcams creators always blow into the direction which makes them the most money. For example affiliate links to Amazon.
There's no excuse for lens noise since ultrasonic "wave motors" were developed in the 90s(by Canon!).
What is the name of the mount called your usings with the Gopro to fit to the Nikon please? 🙏🏿
Nikon worked well that is user error in selecting what to focus