I am not basing my purchase on this video. He did not explain if he had both vacuum and sander on same circuit. Another CZcamsr explained having the exact same issue and tested it by plugging into another outlet and problem solved. It seems the DA needs a certain amount of power to run smoothly.
I think he shares the circuit from the vacuum itself. Some vacuums are designed or built with an outlet for sanders to plug in to vacuum. This can cause issues because some vacuum comes with horrible plug 🔌 outlet. I used it 4-8 hours a day. Share same outlet coming out of wall as vacuum. No issues. I think is not the sander it’s his electrical having issues.
Yeah this is important. The way it 'dies' and then resumes at 100% capacity for a few seconds before 'dying' the same way doesn't seem like tool motor death at all.
@@user-ce7on9ts9t I have mine almost a year now. I use it daily. I build high end cabinets. I ran circuit for these sanders separately from all other tools. My 2 helpers ran both sanders at same time. Some days 6-8 hours of sanding. No issues at all when u ran them on its own circuit. I love them they are as good as 3m sander or even better in my opinion
Hey, thanks for watching! I ended up going with the 3M sander. It’s quite a bit more money but I’ve been using the hell out of it and it’s never failed.
The customer service is absolutely Phenomenal. I had a similar issue. They sent me the LED pad.... Wrong diagnosis. The sent me a new mother board and paddle. I installed it, rewired it, it works. But we will see for how long. MaxXT is a definite Not Recommended tool. Unfortunately I can't return it. My return wind has closed. Lesson learned. Stick to name brand. 3M, DeWalt, Festool. Just gotta save more so I can afford it. Aloha. Thanks for sharing this video.
Dewalt, Festool is also our goal to achieve. We also produce powertools for dewalt brand. We believe we have enough ablility to slove customers' problems. We will keep improving. Sorry for incovenient and thanks for your feedback. It is because of all the feedback you have given us that we have room to improve and get closer to dewalt, festool again. 😀
Thanks. I was about to pull the trigger. Reminds me of my Porter Cable 6". My friend who is a full time woodworker told me to make sure I bought the replacement plan, which I've done many times, often not even needing to use it, as the sander would die before a week or a month was out. I honestly lost count after 5 or 6 of them. I'm buying another 6" this weekend or next week, and am just going to have to suck it up and spend the big bucks. I often have to sand for hours on end, so no way would that work.
Thanks for watching! I ended up spending the money to get a 3M sander and so far it’s been great. I’ve got quite a lot of time on it and it’s still running great.
My maxxt sander has been great so far. 6 months in with almost daily sanding. Though I'm not doing big furniture and gets used for about 5 minutes at a time multiple times throughout the day.
It appears that the source of the problem affecting the sander maybe due to sensitivity to changes in voltage. A couple of reviewers have noted that if the sander and the dust collection runs off the same circuit, you can run into situations where the unit shuts off. If the sander is plugged into a circuit that is different then what is powering the dust collection, the sander does not experience the same power issues. Before giving your ultimate thumbs down, I think it's worth testing this theory. In reality, it's very easy for us to start overloading our circuits in the shop. It's just not something we normally think about. The more power we draw, the more we risk damage to our tools. Additionally, we don't really have any way of knowing just how clean the power is in the shop, without the use of some advanced diagnostic tools.
Hello, thanks for watching! Whether that’s the cause or not I can’t speak to. I sent it back. I can say that I switched to the 3M Xtract sander. I’ve been using it a ton for the last 10 months with no issues.
I have the 6" version, and used it for one project. It was running more than 30min, but not continuously. This sander makes me not hate sanding as much, but I still hate sanding in general. If I can't hand plane, I scraper. Sanding is the last option for me. It would be a great product test with a fixed amount of weight on it and find out how much down pressure is enough and how much is too much.
@Fusion_Woodworking probably because I was replying to someone else? Basically the person says they try to only plane or scrape in order to avoid sanding. A plane doesn't replace sanding. 🤷
@@rustic35 that’s also my account. I now have a second account dedicated for woodworking. My original statement is my preference, yet I never claimed one replacing another. I can see reflections in my planed white oak surface. I do not think 320 grit sand paper can give me that kind of result, not even 3M cubitron mesh on a festool sander.
Hi 👋, Thank you for the territorial, as they say you pay your money and get what you pay for, I no that they are expensive but I would’ve gone for a Festool or Maffel sander , I have got Festool, which I have had for approximately 15 to 20 years the only thing I’ve ever had to replace is brushes new leads occasionally and bass pad, Good luck with your adventure, PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN FRANCE
I bought the same sander, during the first try I felt slight electric shocks in my hand and after a few hours of use, it no longer works, insulation fault which triggers the differential circuit breaker on my electrical installation, I sent an email to the manufacturer who responded very quickly certifying me that they took my problem into account and that they informed their engineering department, Amazon sent me a voucher for the return of the sander and the total reimbursement of the sander, I am buying one again but given the unreliability of this equipment I don't know if I will buy the same one again, it's a shame because this sander has very good ergonomics, a light weight and power, it's a real shame that MAXXT has not resolved these malfunctions to date, my purchase was recent December 31, 2023, it was used for around 10 hours, that's not a long lifespan for a sander!
I had the same problem with the second sander. I ended up going with the 3M sander now. I’ve had it for about a year, I use it alot and have had no issues.
@@jeremyhelias5450 I haven't ordered the second sander yet, I'm wondering, should I get the same one again and I have big doubts about this brand, I think I'll opt for another brand, maybe 3M
Dynabrade makes industrial grade sanders that are made for production lines. I think that if they are made to run all day in aircraft factories...well you fill in the blanks. Made in USA. Slightly less than a Festool sander. Mine has had no problems (it is pneumatic btw which reduces overheating issues if adequately lubricated). I suggest to anyone looking for a durable sander that can be abused....DYNABRADE!
This sander need a constant voltage and when plugged into a vacuum, you share the same circuit and can see voltage drop where the sander will stop. Just plug into a different circuit and you'll be fine. This guy isn't too perceptive on problem solving.
Well, actually, the sander and the vacuum were plugged into different circuits. However, If that’s necessary for it to operate that’s just further proof that it’s not a good sander. I’ve been putting a ton of hours on my 3m sander with no concerns of plugging into a different circuit than the vacuum and I’ve had no issues.
Bello vedere esista ancora qualcue youtuber che non faccia marchette(I mean it's really nice to see some youtuber doesn't play as a prostitute sharing true feedbacks on rewiewed products)
I’ve been in discussions with Maxxt it’s a static issue that shuts the processor down and they are working on this minor issue. I have two of them and have had no problems and it’s been reliable.
Several reviewers have identified that running and sander on the same circuit as the dust collector may also contribute to the sander turning off. Given that the manufacturer is looking at a possible static issue as a root cause, my guess is that this is electrically related and not mechanical. It may be worth trying to run the sander on a circuit separate from the dust collector.
I can't speak about the Max as I don't have one, but since it's a Mirka Deros styled sander I can speak about the Deros. In the manual for the Deros it states if using a interface/protection pad to keep it in the 7k rpm range as a max. Most everyone who buys the Deros will be using net abrasives and in turn a interface/protection pad. So if running maxed at 10k rpm it could possibly account for the dreaded control module fault that people experience with the Deros. As I imagine most don't read the manual and run it balls out. It's just a theory and could be bullshit, but through the Mirka App I set my paddle to max out at 7.6k rpm. Time will tell for me and the Mirka I suppose, but I can add that in my just under a year with the Mirka, I've gotten a lot better run time than your 30 minutes with the Max.
The Mirka was one that I was also looking at, heard a lot of good things. I ended up going with the 3M Xtract after sending this one back. I’ve got quite a few hours on it and so far so good. 🤞 Thanks for watching!
@@Idealwoodworksmost people on CZcams seem to get on well with their 3m sanders. Are replacement pads readily available? And do the Mirka pads fit the 3m?
@@Fictitious_Character I’m not really sure how readily available they are. I’ve only had the sander a few weeks so I haven’t looked into replacing the pad yet. I haven’t looked into the Mirka pads, not sure if they work with the 3M. Hopefully it will be awhile before I have to replace the pad… that sander was expensive enough I’d rather not have to spend more money 😂
Looking to buy one of those sanders too but from which brand. TBH the reviews on the 3m sander are just bad maybe worse. One CZcams channel had a difficult time getting a replacement with Mirka. Getting a tool from one of those expensive brand names should be Lifetime Warranty IMP. 🛠🗜🧰🍻😎✌🏽 ✌🏽
I have mine without any issues for over a year! I do not overused it like crazy so like it a lot!
I am not basing my purchase on this video. He did not explain if he had both vacuum and sander on same circuit. Another CZcamsr explained having the exact same issue and tested it by plugging into another outlet and problem solved. It seems the DA needs a certain amount of power to run smoothly.
I think he shares the circuit from the vacuum itself. Some vacuums are designed or built with an outlet for sanders to plug in to vacuum. This can cause issues because some vacuum comes with horrible plug 🔌 outlet. I used it 4-8 hours a day. Share same outlet coming out of wall as vacuum. No issues. I think is not the sander it’s his electrical having issues.
Yeah this is important. The way it 'dies' and then resumes at 100% capacity for a few seconds before 'dying' the same way doesn't seem like tool motor death at all.
no, I did the tests on two different electrical circuits and on my vacuum cleaner and the problem is the same in all cases.
@@user-ce7on9ts9t I have mine almost a year now. I use it daily. I build high end cabinets. I ran circuit for these sanders separately from all other tools. My 2 helpers ran both sanders at same time. Some days 6-8 hours of sanding. No issues at all when u ran them on its own circuit. I love them they are as good as 3m sander or even better in my opinion
That about settles it. Was so keen on buying a few for our shop :(
THANKS!! You saved me from buying this sander! I was this close to pressing the "buy it now" button. Wow! Thanks again!
Hey, thanks for watching! I ended up going with the 3M sander. It’s quite a bit more money but I’ve been using the hell out of it and it’s never failed.
Well at least the customer service was on point. That river table is going to look gorgeous btw.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
The customer service is absolutely Phenomenal. I had a similar issue. They sent me the LED pad.... Wrong diagnosis. The sent me a new mother board and paddle. I installed it, rewired it, it works. But we will see for how long. MaxXT is a definite Not Recommended tool. Unfortunately I can't return it. My return wind has closed. Lesson learned. Stick to name brand. 3M, DeWalt, Festool. Just gotta save more so I can afford it. Aloha. Thanks for sharing this video.
Dewalt, Festool is also our goal to achieve. We also produce powertools for dewalt brand. We believe we have enough ablility to slove customers' problems. We will keep improving. Sorry for incovenient and thanks for your feedback. It is because of all the feedback you have given us that we have room to improve and get closer to dewalt, festool again. 😀
I would also add the Flex brand, in particular Flex ore 5-150
Thanks. I was about to pull the trigger. Reminds me of my Porter Cable 6". My friend who is a full time woodworker told me to make sure I bought the replacement plan, which I've done many times, often not even needing to use it, as the sander would die before a week or a month was out. I honestly lost count after 5 or 6 of them. I'm buying another 6" this weekend or next week, and am just going to have to suck it up and spend the big bucks. I often have to sand for hours on end, so no way would that work.
Thanks for watching! I ended up spending the money to get a 3M sander and so far it’s been great. I’ve got quite a lot of time on it and it’s still running great.
@@Idealwoodworks probably what I’ll get. Where did you buy it if you don’t mind me asking.
@@deanaoxo I ordered mine from Amazon.
My maxxt sander has been great so far. 6 months in with almost daily sanding. Though I'm not doing big furniture and gets used for about 5 minutes at a time multiple times throughout the day.
110v or 220v?
@@arbit3r 220v. Australia. It's still working great
so sorry you had this experienc myself and a frien each have 2 of these which we have been using for over 40 hours and have not had a single issue
To save a few bucks I went with the 6” sander from M3. Has been working just as good as my 6” Festool that burnt out.
After I sent this one back I debated between 3M and Festool. I ended up going with the 3M. So far it’s been great! Thanks for watching!
It appears that the source of the problem affecting the sander maybe due to sensitivity to changes in voltage. A couple of reviewers have noted that if the sander and the dust collection runs off the same circuit, you can run into situations where the unit shuts off. If the sander is plugged into a circuit that is different then what is powering the dust collection, the sander does not experience the same power issues.
Before giving your ultimate thumbs down, I think it's worth testing this theory.
In reality, it's very easy for us to start overloading our circuits in the shop. It's just not something we normally think about. The more power we draw, the more we risk damage to our tools. Additionally, we don't really have any way of knowing just how clean the power is in the shop, without the use of some advanced diagnostic tools.
Hello, thanks for watching! Whether that’s the cause or not I can’t speak to. I sent it back. I can say that I switched to the 3M Xtract sander. I’ve been using it a ton for the last 10 months with no issues.
Very unlucky , I’ve had one for sanding walls had it about 5 months use it for hours a day had no problems at all ..
I have the 6" version, and used it for one project. It was running more than 30min, but not continuously. This sander makes me not hate sanding as much, but I still hate sanding in general. If I can't hand plane, I scraper. Sanding is the last option for me.
It would be a great product test with a fixed amount of weight on it and find out how much down pressure is enough and how much is too much.
No amount of planing will replace sanding.
@@rustic35 I am not sure what kind of planing you have in mind.
@Fusion_Woodworking probably because I was replying to someone else? Basically the person says they try to only plane or scrape in order to avoid sanding.
A plane doesn't replace sanding. 🤷
@@rustic35 that’s also my account. I now have a second account dedicated for woodworking. My original statement is my preference, yet I never claimed one replacing another.
I can see reflections in my planed white oak surface. I do not think 320 grit sand paper can give me that kind of result, not even 3M cubitron mesh on a festool sander.
Hi 👋, Thank you for the territorial, as they say you pay your money and get what you pay for, I no that they are expensive but I would’ve gone for a Festool or Maffel sander , I have got Festool, which I have had for approximately 15 to 20 years the only thing I’ve ever had to replace is brushes new leads occasionally and bass pad, Good luck with your adventure, PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN FRANCE
Hi Phil, thanks for watching and commenting! I just ordered the 3M sander. Hoping it works better than this one did! 😂
@@Idealwoodworks Please let us know!
Just got the 3M sander delivered today. Put a couple hours on it. So far so good 👍
@@Idealwoodworks 3m is a stunning sander , enjoy mate
I bought the same sander, during the first try I felt slight electric shocks in my hand and after a few hours of use, it no longer works, insulation fault which triggers the differential circuit breaker on my electrical installation, I sent an email to the manufacturer who responded very quickly certifying me that they took my problem into account and that they informed their engineering department, Amazon sent me a voucher for the return of the sander and the total reimbursement of the sander, I am buying one again but given the unreliability of this equipment I don't know if I will buy the same one again, it's a shame because this sander has very good ergonomics, a light weight and power, it's a real shame that MAXXT has not resolved these malfunctions to date, my purchase was recent December 31, 2023, it was used for around 10 hours, that's not a long lifespan for a sander!
I decided to go with the 3M Xtract sander. It’s a bit pricey but I’ve put a ton of hours on it and it’s great!
same issue for me !
And now how is the second sander you received ? same problem or not?
I had the same problem with the second sander. I ended up going with the 3M sander now. I’ve had it for about a year, I use it alot and have had no issues.
@@jeremyhelias5450 I haven't ordered the second sander yet, I'm wondering, should I get the same one again and I have big doubts about this brand, I think I'll opt for another brand, maybe 3M
Festool all the way baby !!!
Dynabrade makes industrial grade sanders that are made for production lines. I think that if they are made to run all day in aircraft factories...well you fill in the blanks. Made in USA. Slightly less than a Festool sander. Mine has had no problems (it is pneumatic btw which reduces overheating issues if adequately lubricated). I suggest to anyone looking for a durable sander that can be abused....DYNABRADE!
Btw...Amazon sells Dynabrade.
Any pneumatic sander, even cheap Chinese ones will last forever.
It’s called a duty cycle.
This sander need a constant voltage and when plugged into a vacuum, you share the same circuit and can see voltage drop where the sander will stop. Just plug into a different circuit and you'll be fine. This guy isn't too perceptive on problem solving.
Well, actually, the sander and the vacuum were plugged into different circuits. However, If that’s necessary for it to operate that’s just further proof that it’s not a good sander. I’ve been putting a ton of hours on my 3m sander with no concerns of plugging into a different circuit than the vacuum and I’ve had no issues.
Bello vedere esista ancora qualcue youtuber che non faccia marchette(I mean it's really nice to see some youtuber doesn't play as a prostitute sharing true feedbacks on rewiewed products)
I’ve been in discussions with Maxxt it’s a static issue that shuts the processor down and they are working on this minor issue.
I have two of them and have had no problems and it’s been reliable.
Several reviewers have identified that running and sander on the same circuit as the dust collector may also contribute to the sander turning off.
Given that the manufacturer is looking at a possible static issue as a root cause, my guess is that this is electrically related and not mechanical. It may be worth trying to run the sander on a circuit separate from the dust collector.
What if you plug your sander in via the dust collector?
you are old enough to know buy cheap buy twice
Well, I'm never buying any MAXXT garbage after watching this. Thanks
I can't speak about the Max as I don't have one, but since it's a Mirka Deros styled sander I can speak about the Deros.
In the manual for the Deros it states if using a interface/protection pad to keep it in the 7k rpm range as a max. Most everyone who buys the Deros will be using net abrasives and in turn a interface/protection pad. So if running maxed at 10k rpm it could possibly account for the dreaded control module fault that people experience with the Deros. As I imagine most don't read the manual and run it balls out.
It's just a theory and could be bullshit, but through the Mirka App I set my paddle to max out at 7.6k rpm. Time will tell for me and the Mirka I suppose, but I can add that in my just under a year with the Mirka, I've gotten a lot better run time than your 30 minutes with the Max.
The Mirka was one that I was also looking at, heard a lot of good things. I ended up going with the 3M Xtract after sending this one back. I’ve got quite a few hours on it and so far so good. 🤞 Thanks for watching!
@@Idealwoodworksmost people on CZcams seem to get on well with their 3m sanders. Are replacement pads readily available? And do the Mirka pads fit the 3m?
@@Fictitious_Character I’m not really sure how readily available they are. I’ve only had the sander a few weeks so I haven’t looked into replacing the pad yet. I haven’t looked into the Mirka pads, not sure if they work with the 3M. Hopefully it will be awhile before I have to replace the pad… that sander was expensive enough I’d rather not have to spend more money 😂
Seems like maybe they aren't supposed to run forever without a break. Curious how they hold up under less stress
30-40 minutes is not very long. I run my makita sander for hours at a time.
Looking to buy one of those sanders too but from which brand. TBH the reviews on the 3m sander are just bad maybe worse. One CZcams channel had a difficult time getting a replacement with Mirka. Getting a tool from one of those expensive brand names should be Lifetime Warranty IMP. 🛠🗜🧰🍻😎✌🏽 ✌🏽
The sanders should just work.