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5 things that will prevent you from mastering Biblical Greek (ft Dr. Rob Plummer)
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- Before students give up on Greek they often fall into traps that prevent them from making progress. The lack of progress is often what causes them to give up and eventually quit working on Greek. So if you could avoid the traps that prevent you making progress, then you're less likely to quit Greek and more likely to continue to develop. That's what this video is all about.
In this video, we're going to look at 5 traps students of biblical Greek fall into that prevent them from making progress. To help me with this, Dr. Rob Plummer from the @Daily Dose of Greek has provided his own reasoning and thinking.
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The down-to-earth nature & practicality of this video is astoundingly good. Keep it up.
Thank you again for ALL your service! I am at the beginning stages of learning Greek and am a self taught type of individual. At the moment I keep connected with others by YOUR videos and Daily Dose of Greek. I don't understand most of what DD is saying BUT the why he slowly reads the Greek helps me to learn how to pronounce the words as a sentence. Having a sheet of accountability helps drives me each day. I have 4 sessions throughout the day, each session has, study/parsing, vocab, listening to Greek being spoken. Note: I am working 9 to 11 hrs a day at my software programming job and have been for decades. Years back I used the same accountability sheet that helped me get a Belt Belt in Karate after 7 yrs of extremely work practice ( greater than 15hrs a week).
Thank you for having Dr. Rob.
Thanks Dr. Darryl and Dr. Plummer great to see you in partnership again!
Thanks! I'm very thankful for Dr. Plummer's support!
The Daily Dose of Greek has brought me back a need to study the Greek NT.
The “Tyranny of the urgent”, what a great way to put it.
It's certainly memorable!
Should be in your comments Darryl: www.amazon.co.uk/Tyranny-Urgent-Booklets-Charles-Hummel-ebook/dp/B00HEKKSG0 Have read this short booklet 20+ times as part of Navigators 2:7 Course and Billy Graham Association gives it as follow up material for new believers. It is on Logos as part of Navigators material.
Thank you brother! Greetings from Honduras
Welcome!
I'm so disappointed that you rolled in stock footage of the Shire instead of filming on location.
Haha! Very good idea - real life lacks the excitement!
Thank you for the challenge of where my desire really lay
You’re welcome! We all need that challenge!
Thank you for your channel! You are a reminder to refresh my greek! :D
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
May I say that your points are all valid. A little long winded though .
5 things that will prevent you from mastering Biblical Greek
1. Bad Models - join an online community
2. Tools make it easy to cheat - you need to know the text to properly use the tools
3. Failure to prioritize - Just because you finished beginning Greek doesn't mean you're finished. "Tyranny of the urgent"
4. Not aware of good resources - "The greatest hindrance is distractions, not intelligence or bad memory."
5. Competing Desires - Greek is valuable to help you grow in Christlikeness and make you grow in the knowledge of Christ.
This is precious:
"Not continuing in Greek and Hebrew is a revelation of a flawed system that is valuing other things above mining down deep into the treasures of God's Word." ~ Dr. Rob Plummer
this waffles on too much
What do you think I should have cut?
@@bma I think there was too much repeating yourself. Time is premium and when people don't get to the gist of what they are wanting to hear they move onto the next video. JMHO.
I think what you said, springboarded off of Dr Plummer's comment, i.e. who you hang around either encourages or discourages the attention that studying Greek deserves, at its ❤, is what Paul the apostle meant saying "bad company corrupts good character", i.e. one's environment is contagious.
As Paul often does, he appeals to nature or the Mosaic Law, both of which have God's laws and intent for those designed in God's image. So like a good apple tossed in a bushel of bad apples, it soon goes bad too.
If we want to soar with eagles, we must not hang with pigeons.
Great advice.
Thanks for watching!
If you have access to tools like Logos, you would have to work hard at missing the main point of the text. Knowing Greek will neither help or hinder you in avoiding this error.
Are you saying this as someone who knows Greek?
What do you think about finding a text to read, learning the vocabulary and grammar associated with that reading, finding another text to read, learning the vocabulary and grammer associated with that reading, and so on?
It depends on your starting point and how you're doing it. If you use something that walks you through the grammar of a text it might work, but generally this is a hard way to learn. The benefit of following a grammar is that it is based on countless hours (and experiences) walking students through the grammar so that they learn it well. Bypassing that means you have to figure it out yourself as a learner. Not many have the time or intellect to do that.
@@bma Thank you for your response. What do you think of a grammar like Athenaze? Every chapter has a short story that is relevant to the grammar that was taught.
I haven’t looked at that one. A lot of grammars have an exegetical discussion based on the grammar so it would probably be helpful.
I listen to you on video. I am going through Learn New Testament Greek by Dobson. I started off by listening to some free lectures on Mounce's, "Greek for the Rest of Us."
Great! Let me know how you go!
@@bma Can you speak on this new way of learning Koine Greek? By this I mean, learning it as a living language. I would appreciate your thoughts and it would make a great talk.
@@michellesnyder4514 I can do that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Great suggestion, thanks!
@@bma Thank you for your consideration.
It's great that you and Dr Plummer are encouraging people to use their Greek, but to be honest, citing the titles of books or pamphlets one has not read in full (or at all) doesn't really add to one's credibility...
Like any language, "use it or lose it". Just using tools, deceives us into not realizing we are no longer using the language much... and so that knowledge muscle atrophies.
Well said 😀
Two websites I enjoy, Biblical Language Center, KoineGreek.com. There is a renewed attempt to teach Koine Greek as a living language
Thanks for this, Michelle!
@@bma Your videos are informative.
"Tyranny of the urgent."
"Urgent" = Pastoral ministry
That is certainly understandable!
Ok, you lost my interest the moment you began using The Lord Of The Rings as your word picture to describe something biblical.
I assume you are intending Christians to be your target audience. Try using something less demonic and less fantasy based to explain real and eternal concepts. Or is this mentality the reality for “Christians” today? (Gen. 6:5, Romans 1:21, II Cor. 10:5).
Greek is not a worthless enterprise. It's just not necessary for the non-academician pastor.
Do you think it would be beneficial for a pastor? Also, what do you mean by non-academician pastor?