Argentine 1909 Cavalry Carbine
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In this video we take a look at the Argentine Model 1909 Cavalry Carbine. DOn't let this little rifle fool you, she's a shooter. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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Lots of people use Mausers here in Argentina to hunt with either surplus ammo, Norma or reloads. Those cavalry models are not cheap and pretty hard to find
I love my 7mm Mausers, great shooting beautiful and lots of great history
I lived in Argentina for 2 years and grew to love the country. It would be way cool to have one of these.
My first deer rifle was a Cavalry Carbine. I paid $75.00 for it at a feed and seed store in my home town and tracked down some JSP ammo for it at hardware store elsewhere in town. "The Little Mule" as it is/was also known in some circles (and still is today) was very accurate and served my purposes from the mid 1960s to about 1971 when I traded it for a new Winchester '94 in .30-30 not because I liked the .30-30 more than the Mauser's chambering but because it became almost impossible in those pre internet days to find hunting ammo for it. I especially enjoyed this video because of the fond memories I have maintained for that fine little carbine! Keep up the great work you do!
Nice to see you reviewing a gun from my contry, i used to shoot the full lenght model,they are extremelly accurate rifles. Cheers from Argentina
Please more MILSURP!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Let’s see that 1909, I got mine over the summer.
I love the 1916 Calvary carbine I have from Argentina. It's in 7X57 and the gun just brings it sadly I have to RE-barrel. But none the less a cool piece of history that I was immediately attracted to and knew what it was before I knew what it was.
Sorry to contradict you, James, but 7x57 NEVER was used by our (Argentine) Armed Services. Ours is the 7,65x53 which is magnificent caliber, even Winchester built their Mod 70 in our caliber Unluckily it was not vey popular. Belgium did use it, so did Iran, Peru and Bolivia and some other South American Countries.
7x57 I believe was used by Chile, they had very good Steyr Mausers
@@ruge48 not a problem I rather know then not know. Thank you for correcting my miss information.
Guys, thou art awesometh . That thing was handled by conscripts for forty nine years ('58 is when Argentina adopted the F.A.L.) and even longer than that, federal police was still using them into the seventies, and is possible to think those kids weren't always careful with them rifles. 1400 meters was for plunging fire, like trench to trench or charging cavalry, it wasn't wishful thinking, but a military doctrine adopted by many militaries around the world. Love the sabre, the infantry rifle came along with an impressive bayonet to. Guys keep those milsurp videos coming. Love to see a review of the carb and the full size one side by side. Again, you Georgia boys are A.W.E.S.O.M.E
If you think the Cavalry carabine mod 1909 kicks, you have to test the 1891 model. She has a shorter barrel, 18 inch, it shoots magnificently but she was nicknamed the "mulita" or little mule. Was my first ever big bore rifle which I sold some years ago. I had mount a Mauser peep sight and was obtaining 1,5 in groups at 150 meters. I was training in those times (1980s ) and we had good ammo. The problem with our service rifles was obtaining consistent ammo. I just bough anothe mulita a couple of months ago, just for the sake of having sux a sexy weapon. The caliber can be compared with the 30.06 favourably. We have resorted to reloading nowadays feeling grateful that America is selling .312 and .311 bullets for the British .303
Magnificent job. I was delighted to see you firing one of ours guns!!!
Many years ago. (1972) while home on medical leave I found a few small country stores that were going out of business. Back then if you had a milsurp we were limited to NORMA ammo for 7.65, 6.5 Italian or Swede, 7.5 Swiss, 303 British or 7.62 x 53R. All loaded with soft points for hunting. Having a couple of years of back pay, I bought every box of Norma ammo I could find. A long with a few mil-surps and a few Win M-70's NIB.
Norma ammo makes 7.7 x 58mm arisaka ammo
Very cool that you did this video, the 1909 Calvary dwm arg is one of my first guns, and definitely a favorite gun. Very cool that it's built in same place as the lugers.
The history of development you provide, along with the technical details, make these mil-surp videos a pleasure to watch. Your enjoyment of those mil-surps is important to me because it's not a game I'll ever get to play in. Thanks again.
I love watching you guys having so much fun shooting. I love taking people who have never shot shooting. Seeing people smile like you guys when they start hitting is just a joy. Great video as always guys.
Hi guys, Argentina Fabricaciones Militares manufacture that ammo (7,65 mm Argentino), and for sporting uses (soft point).
I’ve got a Modelo 1913, rebarreled in ‘61 to 7.62Nato M1A barrel. It holds 2&3/4” pattern @ 300yds on a 10shot group. Bought it for 150ish
thank you so much Eric and Chad. Another great show
Now that was a great vid. Absolutely my favorite when You and Chad blow the dust off an old and very cool rifle made right after the dinosaurs went extinct and just blast away. What an beautiful and classic rifle. Can’t beat those German/Argentine rifles. The 1891 was one of my favorite videos too. That 1909 is definitely on my “must have” list. Thanks again guys.
Estimados colegas: mi humilde experiencia dice que es posible que no estén pegando por el caño encobrado ( lo que hace que disperse mucho) también si es que hace poco que lo tienen deberían revisar la boca del cañón que no esté afectada por alguna pequeña deformación por algún golpe; ya que aquí no se los cuidaba mucho. Un fuerte abrazo desde Argentina 🇦🇷🇺🇸👍
Excellent video guys I've always passed up old milsurp guns when I had chance to buy them. As of now I own 3 because you've sparked my interest in these old guns. Thanks again
Non scrubbed crest on the 1909's are pretty common and they were also left in the white from the factory. The 1891's are hard er to find with the crest. Wonderful rifles! Great video!
Thank you so much for doing this a video on this rifle. I have a 1909 Calvary rifle too, and I love it.
Terrific video! I believe Norma still offers a load in 7.65 soft points in 180 grains, you can find those down here in Argentina (no cheap stuff though)
Do the modelo 1909 infantry rifle please(full scale). Greetings from Argentina
It’s awesome when you guys post this early, get to watch your stuff between pt hours and work call
That is a very potent hunting round. I killed a caribou out at 378 yards with the 91 Argentine Mauser in 7.65
Love when you bring out the old firearms that shaped this country. These firearms are so reliable and they knew how to make firearms last back then. Thank you for showing me this and now i want one, but i have to get another gun safe, decisions, decisions so difficult. You rock IV8888
I love the Milsurp .I have one Mauser which is the 1891 Argentine.I found it in a local pawn shop.I guessed it to be from an estate sale. Every number was maching.The only thing gone was the ramrod. Even had a sling . I got it with a two gun buy.Ended up with about $ 150 in it.
Love the Mauser,.My next to collect is the Mosin,I hope..
I do appreciate all your videos Eric & Chad. God Bless America again.
Awesome video guys
I love to hear that steele ring! I love the old weapons! I'd love to put my hands on one!
Richard Tibbetts gives you a whole new level of respect for modern day weapons, some disgust tho lol
The theory is sound. As the barrel heats it expands. Touching almost anywhere differently the barrel can be sprung up, down, left, right or a combination there of. Indeed the barrel also gets longer and Mauser cut stock reliefs in the rifles with stepped barrels to counter this issue.
Man Eric stacked those first 5 on top of each other at 300!
"Modelo, not the beer I guess" had me dying 😂😂😂. Great video as always boys!
Great video my friends!
TOP! Looove the 600yrds vids!
I really like your guy's show keep it up. And wanted to say thanks on the knowledge you guy's have taught me over the years of watching the show. P.s. you guy's should come to Idaho and make a video we have a lot of open range to shoot some insane distances especially with a 338 lapua or 50.
Great video I actually just finished building a rifle from a 1909 action I had laying around.
Saludos desde Argentina 💙💛💙
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Gents, I just love your MILSURP contributions. I really enjoy how you demonstrate that we know nothing new in the 21st century. They had it completely squared away in the late 1800s. Really cool guys.
I've got an all matching argentine 1909 infantry rifle that's practically immaculate. Even has fire bluing on it like on the bolt release, screws, and rear sight. Would love to see you shoot one also. Most beautiful mauser i've ever seen/owned.
Great video Eric
No bayonets for cavalrymen; their main weapon was still the sword or the lance.
Nice vid-LOT of good info-picked mine up at a local pawn shop bout 4 years ago for $165-Crest marking still intact-
Amazed that I found some people that really appreciates our guns,thanks guys
please do the full sized 09 i would love to see that there are some of the best mausers
Cool. I find old Mauser cavalry carbines to be great fun to shoot. Wood shrinks with age. It is possible the nose cap or barrel band is shifting a little with each shot.
AWESOME GUN!! Thanks for sharing this ouystanding video!!
Back at CST in the 80s the 1909 Argentine was like gold for our custom builds even to 458 Winchester,
That's a really cool little milsurp and I'm liking that caliber quite a bit. I bet with some dialed in hand loads, you guys could get that elevation variation dialed out a little more and be on the gong 95% of the time. I may have to try to find me one of these little carbines! Speaking of carbines, I wanna see you guys do this very video with a Spanish fr8, my dad had one back in the day and I never got a chance to see what it was capable of. Always loved the look and handiness of that .308 carbine and it had a little recoil to it as well. Would be a neat comparison to this rifle, at least full power carbine wise
Fun stuff! Thanks for sharing :)
I absolutely love my Calvary carbine. Ours look exactly alike. Intact crest as well.
Love watching vapor trails!
I love old surplus guns
Norma is cranking out 7.65 Argentine, too
Love the old milsurp videos keep them coming
Thanks guys!
Finally!!! I have this same rifle! I'm having trouble finding ammo for it that's not too heavy tho! What I've found lately is too heavy and keyholes. Even so, I LOVE this rifle it also has an intact crest and I have the bayonet for it too!
Beautiful carbine, great video. Steyr M95 long rifle next, I have one I can supply for the video.
Love it! Nice rifle keep it up!
I too have a full size 1909 and use PKU ammo. Numbers match, as well as the cleaning rod. Crest is about 30%. Would love to see you do a video on this rifle.
Thanks guys, that looks like fun
Can you get an AR500 dart board for a game of 300 yard 301 with a 303.
Lol
love it!!! I have the other calvery M1909 Argentina, A series, 1 of 10000 made in Berlin.
Awesome! Hey, please do a video on the full sized 1909!
Can't you put a wind sock down there to help you read the wind?
no wind socks in combat
@@brandonboelter5953 No benches or stationary targets either. Don't be an ass.
I have the full length 1909 .wood love to see a video on that to
I have one of these. It's my favorite centerfire bolt gun when it might be elk in the dark timber.
That 1909 will still take care or business!
I started shooting big bore rifles with the infantrey Máuser Modelo 1909,some years ago when I was 16,an AWESOME LY ACCURATE rifle with Iron sights!!
I saw on one of your old five guns videos a H&R 755 Sahara .22 single shot. Could you get please do a range video on that? Many thanks.
Some of these 1909’s were actually made in Argentina. I have one with a gorgeous striped walnut stock. The quality of these is second to none.
wow guys great shooting!!
fuck you
Lee Enfield SMLE/No 4 lets make it happen!
It's a shame that you can only get 7.65mm Mauser ammo from one manufacturer. FM Beltran in Argentina used to manufacture the cartridge, mostly because there're a lot of Argie Mauser in civilian hands in-country. I dunno if they ever exported ammunition to US. I do know that the old weapons plant in Rosario (FM FMAP or FM Domingo Matheu) used to export semiauto only metric-pattern FAL rifle to US, either fully assembled rifles, or just receivers (they were even ATF aproved), misc parts. Fun trivia: argentine gun enthusiasts nickname the argentine Mauser carbines (either 1891 and 1909) Mauser Mulita, that is literally "Little-mule Mauser", because, in comparison with the fullsize infantry rifle, it kicks like a mule, probably not as much as, let's say, a M44 Mosin-Nagant.
I love waking up to the fresh smell of gunpowder
Just impressive !!
These and the Engineer's carbines were really closer to short rifles vs carbines especially when you compare the 1891 carbine with the 1909 carbine.. Calling these 1909 carbines "stumpy" is kind of silly. Got to love the Argentine 1891/1909 battle rifles and carbines. Kind of a late response from me. Better late than never 😀 The scrubbed receivers were more likely with the 18991 battle rifles and occasionally an 1891 carbine.. It is rare to find a 1909 battle rifle or carbine without a crest unless they were a Peruvian variant. Speaking of the variations around countries with Mausers, this 1909 Cavalry carbine had a ton of variations within it's model unlike any of the other Argentine rifles. For sure very collectible. The Ejercito's are my favorites.
MJ SOKOLIK Nice videos , both of you sound like you have fun .
I see you have discovered the coziness that is the military issue fleece jackets :D
very nice rifle! i've got the 1909 infantry rifle and its a cherry! I definitely got lucky with that. do you have a Brazilian M954? love to see some shooting with that!
Good info as always. English fan
Do a video of the M1893 Spanish Mauser pls
I would like to see another video on the Turkish Mauser
You should do a video on the h&k m416
How about trying out some .30-30 and .35 carbines just to see what can be done
First thing i noticed when i shot mine was how hard it hit them targets!!
When you bring out the full length rifle please bring this carbine so we can see the difference.
Keep doing what you are doing.
You guys should do a video on CCW facts. Including info on how to carry safely and legally. CCW insurance. How to CC in a car etc.
Very hard to do with variances in state laws.
Do the full size please. I use the the 1909 full size but it has a straight bolt unlike the carvery bent bolt and I plan to take it hog hunter later this week and I would love to see how you like yours.
Can you handle another meltdown video? Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 Pro. I would expect that the rifle would hold up pretty well but I would also like to see if the reputation of the rifle matches its price tag.
I'm considering buying one in the next 3 weeks.
Keep up the good work and the awesome videos.
That old girl refuses to retire.
Gracias por el video.
I love taht u use this guns,
me encanta q haya agarrado la mulita, genial hermoso rifle, que pena q ya no se pueda usar casi
Good video like to see a ppsh41 or stg44
Well done
I personally own the infantry version of this rifle and use the same brand of ammo just in soft points for hunting deer
The M1909 was made well into the 1950s. Would be a great companion for my Ballester Molina!!!
Looks lovely be a joy to shoot and hunt with if only ... great vid. Happy shooting
I am a long term .308 fan. I have several 1891 Mausers. I want one of these Argentines!!!!!!!!!
Fun video... I have both the 1891 Cavalry carbine and a 1909 Cavalry carbine and for some reason my 1909 looks shorter than the one shown here