Species Who Lost their Homeworlds (Star Trek)
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- It's been made clear that Romulus has been destroyed and we've delved into that in depth on this channel before, but the Romulans are far from the only Star Trek species to loose their homeworld.
Suliban, Trabe and all the victims of the Borg have had their home planet destroyed or had it denied to them in some other fashion.
This is a list of 5 such races and 2 mentions.
More on these Species:
XINDI Reptillian: • XINDI-REPTILIAN: Cultu...
XINDI Aboreal: • XINDI-ARBOREAL: Cultur...
Other XINDI: • XINDI AVIAN-AQUATICS-I...
VOTH: • VOTH: Cultural Index
Post-Hobus Romulans: • Formation of the ROMUL...
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You forgot to mention the Vaudwaar from Voyager (episode "Dragon's Teeth"). Their planet was rendered uninhabitable when they were at war with neighboring species. They decided to look for a new home by traveling through their system of sub-space corridors.
Damn; thanks for the deep cut.
The Romulan have a whole Empires worth of planets. You think they would just choose a new homeworld.
The problem is the Romulans split between the Imperials and Republicans. Either faction establishing a permanent capital can't happen until that civil war is settled because they risk losing it or, if motivated by security, establishing a capital unsuitable for peacetime (or even wartime in an external war). Then Republicans also have the added concern for democracy. A single dedicated capital is going to inevitably have more rights than other worlds. The Federation can get around this becuase while Earth is the capital, Humans aren't actually in control. The (Republican) Romulans however will likely have to settle for a space station or rotating capital.
@@davidkelly4210 If you are talking STO lore, it's not canon.
I do agree that while Romulus is a very important planet for them, you can't maintain security for just one planet over a whole empire. Though im sure there would be much chaos after the destruction.
While i am disregarding STO as canon(because its not) I do think that the Romulan story in STO is by far the best and most Star trek feeling story in that game. I would personally hope they take inspiration from that for the Romulans in Star Trek: Picard.
It's not just choosing a new homeworld, it's recovering from the massive loss in people. Regardless of how many planets have been colonized, the homeworld would still be the heaviest populated world in their territory. This also affects their economy and support. Each planet can come with its own limitations, requiring imports of goods and necessities, most which will likely come from the homeworld.
It would be ideal to move the capital to the next most established world in the empire, but that can likely also lend power to a specific faction as well, which others would disagree with. The Romulan Empire has a long history of changing Emperors and policies due to assassination and deposing thereof.
Look at it this way. Say Washington D.C. were to be obliterated by a disastrous hurricane and flood in 1850 when there was a strong schism going on between the northern and southern states. The northern states would be all for moving the capital to New York City or Philadelphia. The southern states would rather have it in Richmond or Charleston. More than likely this disagreement would spark the civil war several years sooner than 1860. Especially as the governmental infrastructure would be gone, with the likely loss of many congressional representatives in both houses, possible loss of the President or the Vice President, if not both, as well as the loss of so many experienced governmental employees as well.
If you aren't from the US, try to imagine what it would be like to lose your nation's capital or largest city. Might give you some cold chills.
@@samsonguy10k Nations change capitals all the time. If the leadership is intact then the city doesn't matter.
Not quite straightforward if you had your core government centralized in one spot. A spot that just got blast to smithereens.
It’s kinda hilarious that a species capable of changing shape would demand conformity.
I know right !?
Harry Lagom well yeah they got shit on in the past but now they’re the shitters...
Changeling would prefer to remain liquid all day everyday.
I always thought their story of being persecuted was a lie. They way it was describe in the story made little sense. Really only energy weapons, force fields, and advanced bio weapons could hurt them. Outside of that there was no way to cause them physical harm. And yet their legends make it sound like they were beaten and chased. But they can literally become fire, mist, and so much more.
A.A. V
How about we keep it civil. I didn’t come here for a political debate, and I’m willing to bet that almost no one else did, either.
Another good example of a species that lost their homeworld is the Vaadwaur from the delta quadrant. Even though the planet itself still exists, it's so irradiated the task of restoring it would be monumental. By the 25th century their weapons & ships have been upgraded(thanks to the Iconians)but it's hard to say whether or not they have terraforming systems.
Well depends how far back you go wouldn't Vulcan be the Romulan homeworld?
aaand I should have waited before commenting.
And now it is once more
And there is the Iconian Race.
If you are considering alternate timelines then there are the poor Vulcans too who lost there home.
Well, he talked about the destruction of Romulus, which is in alternate timeline.
@@mrsamaritan6881 The destruction of Romulus is prime, the destruction of Vulcan is Alternate.
@@psal8715 True, how and why it happened is explained in STO.
@@Fish1701A Unfortunately nothing from STO is canon so prime we don't know beyond what happened in the Star Trek Movie.
@@psal8715 Well, atleast we know that the destruction of Romulus is Prime and it should be canon because of the new Picard show. But you are right the explanation is STO only and not canon.
You've been, you are, and you will be--Rick! Thanks for your vids.
No Tarellians? You know, the plague-bearing species who had to abandon their homeworld looking for a cure? TNG Episode "Haven"?
Really wish they keep some of the sto story arcs specially the whole Romulus story arc about sela and the reason Why the Star went supernova definitely the best story in all of STO.
Some of it out landish to.
You mentioned those displaced by the Borg but not the fact that the Borg themselves are without a home world.
Perhaps they have a Homeworld!
Does Unimatrix Zero or the Unicomplex count? Admittedly "Home" and "World" became concepts to the Brog.
As to their actual planet of origin, it is long lost to a forgotten (or at least untold) history
the Borg out grew their home world where ever it might have been many hundreds of centuries ago
@@christopherdalan8124 We find out about their home world in one of the Star Trek books written by William Shatner though not considered canon it explained quite a bit about the borg that the shows don't and expands on connections that people have wondered and theorized about. Basically we find out that their are multiple different factions of borg all on their own unique paths to what they each view as perfection and each group totally ignores the others also some are far more advanced then the borg we are familiar with some of them having rejected flesh entirely becoming completely artificial while also becoming so advanced that they were borderline gods while at the same time they could no longer understand or see that organic creatures had intelligence or sentience. Sound familiar? Well we also find out that the planet V'Ger landed on was in fact the borg homeworld and the faction the probe encountered was likely one of those that was entirely artificial hence the thinking of organics as an infection of the enterprise also why it had such a massive and overpowered ship that could put a cube to shame as the ones that helped it were basically artificial gods.
Really should of been made canon as it was well written and connected well to two of the movies and explained why V'Ger was so powerful.
They may have one, it just wouldn't matter.
I could see the Klingon Empire trying to Snuff out the Star Empire(maybe even a plot point of picard?) and I am not really sure how the federation would react too that
Agreed. I could see some Klingon houses trying to setting old scores with what remains of the Star Empire.
they would put the entire Klingon Empire in Galactic Time Out for being Naughty
Zero Cool, Star Trek Online answers some of those questions the Klingon's did take some territory in the confusion but the United Federation of Planet's chastised them (this was before Martok was deposed) and returned some world's to the Romulan Star Empire but they did retake Kitomer.
Very happy to hear that Guinan with be appearing in season 2 Star Trek Picard! Looking forward...
Fascinating thank you. More Star Trek species I had forgotten or never heard of!
In the tabletop strategy game Starfleet Battles, Tholians had a similar backstory to the Trabe, driven from their home galaxy by a violent slave revolt - although they used their highly advanced tractor beam technology to bring their entire planet with them
"Federation would not let that happen." Oh, how wrong we all were about Picard.
Oh how painfully correct you are, sir.
@@mushdamma In fairness to Picard, the Federation WAS trying to help. The Zhat Vash literally fucked over their own people by doing that shit on Mars.
Technically the romulan homeworld is Vulcan since that is where their ancestors came from.
Technically most Americans are European, that's where their ancestors lived.
@@Paul_The_Spaceman Very true for the european half of the population. :P
@@Paul_The_Spaceman Technically all humans originate from Africa
@@limiv5272 wouldn't that make us all related. If we all evolved from 1 tribe.
@@Paul_The_Spaceman We ARE all related
what about the Skrreean and Yaderan from ds9? they lost their home worlds to the Dominion.
Then there's the Asgard who's homeworld was... Oh shit! wrong universe! My bad! 😁✌
They lost their homeworld twice!
Are you talking MCU or SG?
@@derianvandalsen stargate sg-1
No mention of the Hirogen - we don't know what happened to their homeworld, only that they simply don't have one, and are a race of entirely space-borne hunters with space station "hunter's lodges" that they dock at occasionally to refuel and rearm and show off their trophies - they all seem to be vaguely aware that they don't know what became of their homeworld, but none of them seem to care.
The Demons of Air and Darkness see the Romulans and say, "Oooh, willing pawns."
Humans lost earth in the alternate future enterprise episode "twilight" s3ep8
Alternate Earths do not count. :P
@Cellphone Dave They are alternate realities.Universes where quirks in history have made for different outcomes.They have no bearing on other realities.Unless people in alternate realities cross over.But aside from Star Trek and comic books that is pretty rare. :P
In alternate realities, everything has happened.... so its always irrelevant to point them out, lol
@@Nemoticon True but it is fun to entertain the possibilities.Although I don't think anyone really explored " what if " the empire won the Galactic Civil War though.
@@stevengreen9536 Only with context.
You *might* want to add the Klingons to that list. Though AFAIK TNG and other series never mentioned what ultimately happened to Qo'noS after ST:TUC, the movie was pretty clear that the planet had only a few decades left. For all we know, the Qo'noS from TNG may actually be a different planet.
Except they settled and had a new homeworld.
@@Janoha17 True, but losing your homeworld is not a minor thing, even if you find a new one.
But that was just the forecasted path. Perhaps some scientific application was put into place (whether as help from the Federation or not) to have made the situation not nearly as bad as it played out to be. If we infer from the Picard series what kind of massive undertaking it is to evacuate an entire planet of an advanced civilization, it seems improbable in the course of canon history that such a thing happened to the Klingon homeworld after all. Not just the amount of resources and ships, but the fact that it is unlikely the Klingon government would have remained unified. The entire Klingon structure is based upon blood enemies of feuding houses going back centuries. There's no way they would have held hands together in determining their destiny. No, it would have splintered much more so than it did with the Romulan evacuation.
This needs to be a continuing series, of extinct and displaced species.
I think the Skrreeas from the gamma quandrant in the episode "sanctuary"(DS9) also lost their planet
@Nikolai zazzoslki it pretty much says they left by the time the dominion control their planet. Another race had conquered their planet before. 1 million were at ds9. This is why I agreed with bajoran government on accepting so many people. Governments cant take in such large groups of people.
@@Shadothecat Especially since they were so antagonistic
This Is Mindbending I Cant Even Imagine Our Planet Earth Too Which We Love Being Taken Over By Hostiles Entent On Wiping Us Out Or Enslaving Us To Make Our World Hospitable For Them This Is Truely Scary On Any Level Star Trek Is The Best Sci-Fi Series Ever Created.
You don't need to Capitalize Every Single Word, It Doesn't Make It Any Easier To Read.
I say that's true about Romulans enduirng another loss (good point about vulcan civil war) However I think it's very likely it's over for the Romulans, they survived exile and rebuild but that mitigating factor was time and isolation. At the current time in Trek every major power in the Alpha Quadrent knows about them and have the tech to reach them.
If anything the Romulan empire should have lost it's entire system given it was a supernova so it's signficantly worse, and the possible scenario in 'all good things' of the Klingon conquest could likely happen.here are other groups such as the Breen and the Tholians who will have interest in this collapse.
The Romulan Star Empire may be gone, but the Romulan people will survive
What about the Talaxians? Their homeworld was destroyed by a "metrion cascade" WMD or at least rendered uninhabitable which is the whole reason why Neelix was a wanderer before getting involved with Kess
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The guardians weren't a species they were actually a branch of the species that left to use manipulation of time to destroy the federation.
The Sphere Builders is actually the racial name of the species in English.
I never understood the Romulan plot in New Trek 2009 or in Picard. They have an entire Empire... once they noticed there was a potential of the planet being destroyed - relocate the populace and government to another one of their worlds in the Empire....
Picard handled the idea so badly. I can see the destruction of Romulus causing chaos and civil wars, rebellions by subject races, etc. That might cause some Romulans to flee to Federation territory but not the whole population even assuming many died when Romulus was destroyed. The Romulan Star Empire going through a French or Russian Revolution style period of political upheaval, multiple factions civil wars, rebellions by conquered species striking for independence and foreign intervention (I don't see the Klingons missing an opportunity to gain territory at Romulan expense and the Federation can't sit back as a major border area descends into near anarchy) had so much story potential. You could have the Federation facing the problem that not all Romulans coming into their territory are on the same side and that causes problems especially if the Federation has an imperfect understanding of a very chaotic and fluid situation in Romulan space.
Very fascinating video! Thank you!
Trillians
In the early 21st century species known as Cryptic, denied the access to their homeworld Trill or Trillius prime, by destroying all docking ports and jamming teleportation signal stranding all known Trills outside of their home system. Blocade continued into 24th century and it is unknown will they ever be able to visit their home planet again.
That's pretty funny, but accurate. Plus the ferengi can't go home either..
@@TIME_LORDS cant play as ferengi, but i really wish my Trill toon can visit his homeworld.
8:00 It's weird to be watching this after the episodes of Star Trek Picard.
Suliban are probably my favourite ENT recurring alien. Really cool creature and technology design, slightly hampered by really hit-you-over-the-head 9/11 allegories. But then again, so was most of ENT.
There's also a TNG episode where Worf's brother Nikolai transports people on to the Enterprise without anyone knowing and violates the Prime Directive. Because their home planet was soon to be uninhabitable.
Hey Rick,Are you going to continuing doing Robotech lore with Invid or the Robotech Masters?
Wasn’t Vulcan destroyed in on of the Star Trek movies?
Welp i guess you can add Pakled to that now
You forgot about the talaxians
I thought a moon blew up then some left. Did the whole planet die?
@@thod8820 ; I am not entirely sure, but I do think that the Talaxian homeworld is for the most part uninhabitable.
The Talaxians still have their home. It's just under Haakonian rule. Most Talaxians chose to leave due to the repressive occupation of their homeworld.
really found it funny how the changelings hated solidity, but in the end thought just like them in order to protect themselves.
The Romulan system was the only planet in the Romulan Star Empire. I don't see the problem here for the Romulans. There should be planets all over their controlled space that they could settle.
The colonists who were displaced first by the settlement of the Americas, then by the yielding of territory to the Cardassians.
The whole maquis thing was bs. They choose to stay then get piss at the federation for the treaty.
Is the Xindi avian skull a giraffe skull?
I don't know if the Federation would be able to help the Romulans without breaking it's own laws
It was mentioned that the Avians decided not to leave the Xindi homeworld before it exploded. I think Degra said it!
You forgot the species that Voyager found that the Talaxians called foolish and the Talaxians themselves.
Vaadwaur
Add the Maquis colonies - they officially seceded from the Federation, being an independent free state, and fought a promising conflict until the Dominion signed a treaty with the Cardassians and subsequently wiped them out.
Sadly, you're wrong about the Federation not letting them fall, and I suspect Section 31 had something to do with the synth attack on Utopia Planetia and Mars.
No everything a section 31 conspiracy.
What about the talaxians?
the guardians look like the founders or is it just me
How about species that went extinct?
It seems in ST that most home-worlds are named from the dominant species like Vulcans/Vulcan, Romulans/Romulus, Zindi/Zindus etc unlike Humans/Earth, Kingons/Kronos etc. What are the odds that would happen naturally? It would seem like to me, the name of the home-world would most likely NOT be named after the dominant species.
Another good one from Trek would be the Fabrini and their asteroid arc Yonada. Also the Betelgeusians but most everything on them is from Beta content.
I always wondered if you could swim in the great link.
Well the Vulcans might not even be from Vulcan ether, having also come from somewhere else long ago.
Yep. This is always ignored. Vulcans and romulans were once on a planet together as one people. They split off into their own directions romulans would split again.
In TOS, it's implied that Vulcans may have descended from Arretans, or have worshipped them ( S2E22 "Return to Tomorrow" )
Awesome video!! What about the Talaxians (STVOYs: Jetrel), Hirogen (no known homeworld STVOYs: Prey), Ocompa (STVOY's Caretaker and Cold Fire), Hierarchy (STVOY's Tinker, Tiner, Doctor Spy) and others I can't remember. I'm getting old lol
Ocampa still live on their homeworld. Talax still exists but is under Haakonian occupation. I thought of Species 116 but they're included under casualties of the Borg.
@@CelticVictory that's right. I forgot Neelix mentioned their enemy does control his people.
And just because the Hirogen's homeworld hasn't been shown doesn't mean they don't have a home planet. Same for the Hierarchy.
For a high tech race, getting a new home isn't too tricky..
The Trabe for example, could avoid the Kazon easily, space is big and full of hiding places..
Nebula and rogue planets make good hidden bases of operation
Romulans have top notch power generation tech, they can replicate their way out of a nasty pickle.. :)
Are you sure? I was pretty sure that the founders created the vorta.
They created the Jem Hadar, the Vorta were an existing species that was heavily modified by the Founders
what if the UFP are the bad ones in the time war?
Poor poor balls of Futurama
There are also the Boraalan
s, (although they dont know about it) and the Skrreeans
I wonder if the Vulcan/Romulan schism was also the Iconians’ doing, and the Iconians intended the Romulans to be a nomadic species always on the run......
like that theory very much
Didn't know Founder's logo is a sink.
Why haven't the Vulcans ever mentioned those other Vulcans, that left and didn't purge their emotions?
Poor Na'kuhl dont even get a mention.
You should note this as being canon only through STO, JJ Abrams films, Star Trek Discovery and potentially ST Picard. The principle Star Trek Universe and Timeline has no loss of Romulus. That timeline is currently paused at the end of the TNG film, Nemesis.
The 'lost a homeworld' complaint is a good reason to ask Kirk why they don't get a 'Starbase Yorktown', alright.
They lost their planet and this channels author will never lose his virginity.
My character in Star Trek Online also lost his homeworld but it was the Iconian's that devastated his homeworld in the Andromida Galaxy.
those Iconian's were a self serving bunch...always putting their needs ahead of others...no wonder the galaxy as a whole unfriended them eons ago
Guinan....I always assumed she was part of the Q.........but they ( el-Aurians ) must be in quite close contact with the Q-continuum.......
Max Noerenberg I remember from a TNG episode Guinan telling Picard that her species had many encounters with the Q in their past. I didn’t think they were part of the Q continuum, but perhaps competitive rivals or crossed neighbors so to speak.
The el-Aurians are NOT Q, but Q does describe Quinan as an "imp".
a sister race that developed in parallel and only deviating slightly prior to contact with the Borg and the Nexus
Slightly lower step in evolution seems a reasonable idea.
But what about Zaphod Beeblebrox?
I like experiencing new things.
lets not forget the Quarians, they have to live on ships too.
Daniel Martinez yes how foolish of him to omit a Mass Effect species from a Star Trek video. 🤦🏻♂️
Didn't the Xindi-Avians opt to remain on Xindus when it popped?
that's left somewhat vague probably intentionally so...it's suggested that the extinction event happened a very long time ago but the details are not specific as to why only the Avians were targeted or if any othe the other Xindi did anything to prevent the genocide or took an active part in seeing it play out...
the Romulans did it, N'ivar you knew it 👍🏼
Did the Voth encounter the Borg?
The Xindi had a Homeworld it was Called Xindus and it’s where all 6 Species of Xindi Evolved and The Guardians did nothing for the Xindi except Make them think The Federation was gonna invade Xindus
Why dont you offer them a nice comfy spot in Uranus.. Heard they visit often.
Could Romulans go the route half way to the route of the Vulcans....
The books of the Department of Temporal Investigation shows us the shadowy benefactor is operating from the 28th century. They're called faction Omega. Yes he has vulcaniod traits plus several species not yet known.
I thought it was captain archer like an injoke as he was in quantum leap
Is that alpha canon or beta canon? Either way that conflicts with who the shadowy benefactor is according the "Future Proof" story arc in Star Trek Online.
@@occultatumquaestio5226 at the time the books were alpha cannon. Now beta?? Online isn't anything to me.
Television and movies are canon. Books are ancillary material and would be considered beta canon. Games are considered gamma canon at best.
@@CelticVictory all books after Nemesis were cannon until paramount changed it in 2018. Now was that retroactive?? I don't know.
Top of the list with bones to pick are as follows.
The Remans
The Klingons
Any race that was enslaved
Section 31
Need i go on?
The Changelings do have a Homeworld That’s where Odo returned to at the End of The Changeling War with the Alpha Quadrant
It’s not their original homeworld
Did they ever directly say that I always took it to be a World they randomly Picked so as to Ambush The Cardassian & Romulan Fleets
The Romulans have since rejoined the Vulcans ;)
i thought 99% vulcans died out at hand of romulans in 2016 movie
You said you were going to list 5 races, there were only 4. And how could you leave out the TALAXIANS!?
and Talaxians?
If we recall correctly, it was a colony that was destroyed. It was the Talaxians largest colony, but not the home world.
Romulus was never destroyed. So I don't care about the Picard Show, or any other of this new woke crap.
Edit: "In the reboot film, titled Star Trek and released in 2009, the planet Romulus is destroyed by a supernova in the year 2387."
Ergo Kelvin-timeline and thus not canon, and so is the Picard show: not canon.
It is canon deal with it..🤷♂️
@@stevenyia2778 It parts of the Kelvin line to have a plot for the first movie. But you fanboys can say what you want, and watch what you want. But I won't watch it as long as it is non canon => Kelvin time line.
Last one, humanity. In a galaxy far, far away.:V
Screw the Romulans I feel bad for all of the reemans on Remus
What happened to Remus, after Romulus was destroyed? Always good to have a spare world. In the TNG timeline Romulus is still around though. So the destruction of Romulus was averted, so Vulcan's destruction would also not have happened. So the Kelvin timeline became a dead end, it didn't happen.
Romulus was destroyed after the events of TNG.
the proximity of Remus to its sister world would not have saved it from being equally decimated...being a largely underground based society, evacuating the planet would have been more difficult (probably) and who's to say that massive chunks of Romulus did not crash into Remus when it was destroyed...just guessing at that one
Given their history, I very much doubt the federation would go that far to try to support and/or protect the romulans
So the Borg did exist in Shatner's time. Well, I believed V'GER was Borg, but heh.
Shatner wrote a book where V'Ger was tied in to the borg also learned that not all borg chose the same path to perfection as the group we are familiar with as different groups had different ideas on how to reach perfection. Hinted that the ones V'Ger encountered may of been the most advanced ones as while the description of the various factions was limited some had rejected flesh entirely and become so advanced that calling them artificial gods wouldn't be inaccurate based on the limited description.
what about the Rikers kid in imperfect future
Ah, Sulibans. The grainy rice faced aliens.
Changlings
I know you have been hunted for so long
But This cannot occur anymore
Its time to let change flow through us all
Let go of this hate for the solids and i will give you a home in my dimension safe From all forms of hate
Whaaaa, no Talaxian??
Depressing episode.
Does the Kazon hair make anyone else uncomfortable for some reason?
Klingons and Romulans et al all lived on Krypton.
Where are the Scrians?? Guess no frosted flakes for breakfast 😣
Missed out the vulcans
Daniel we’re talking about the prime Timeline here. The “Kelvin” timeline is the one where Vulcan gets sucked into a black hole.