The Forum isn’t going anywhere. It has already been renovated. The Forum has the best acoustics of any mid size venue in the city. It will be around for a very long time.
forum used to have bad acoustics its better now. the rose bowl has to figure out the parking situation. was there for a coldplay show and it took an hour to get back to the car.
The Rose Bowl is officially recognized as a National Historic Landmark, so they are limited on what they can do with regards to appearance. With regards to UCLA, they should play their games at SoFi Stadium because it's much closer to campus. Playing in an NFL stadium isn't ideal, but there's no room and no money available to build an on-campus stadium at UCLA.
Inglewood may be closer to Westwood than Pasadena, but Pasadena is lovely area while Inglewood is still largely a s#it hole that is avoidable unless there’s a game or concert going on.
SoFi would be tough because it's got an NFL game almost every weekend on account of being shared by the rams and chargers. But maybe it wouldn't matter since they use artifical turf
The Forum is going nowhere. It's a world-renowned concert venue now. That was the whole point of the renovation 10 years ago by MSG. Its proximity to SoFi and Intuit are only going to make it a more attractive location for concert events, and that's saying so as it's already routinely hosting major, major artists on consecutive nights every month.
Honestly, your take that the Rose Bowl is even remotely in danger makes every other take you have diminished. There’s not one iota of truth to the Rose Bowl becoming the Cotton Bowl. UCLA issue is losing.
Your take is so wrong. They play non conference games at noon in September when it’s over 100 degrees at game time. There’s no cover or shade of any kind and there is never a breeze at that time of year. Then comes the drastic and complete opposite by November. They are now playing meaningful conference games at 7:30 at night. The temperature is now in the low 40’s high 30’s with a wind chill coming off the mountains making it feel like it’s in the 20’s. Now factor in that it’s 26 miles from the UCLA campus making it hard for students to attend games. Then factor in how hard it is to get in and out of the stadium because it’s in the middle of a neighborhood and you have the reason for the low attendance. Oh yeah and the Bruins are mediocre on good years.
What do people freaking expect from their sports facility. Why does everything have to be so shiny and new. My last Rose Bowl game was just great. Good sightlines comfortable seat. I say don’t change a thing. Despite if it gets a little scruffy. What is the big deal about having splashy venues. It’s just ridiculous.
There's a couple of issues at play with the facilities featured in this video, With regards the Rose Bowl, not only is it designated a National Historic Landmark limiting what changes can be made to the structure, the city of Pasadena and the surrounding community (which is extremely affluent and politically well connected), have a cap on how many events per year can be held at the Rose Bowl, aside from something huge like a World Cup or the Olympics, the UCLA football season and the Rose Bowl game take up most of those available events, so you will have the annual 4th of July celebration, a handful of top tier massive concerts or maybe a high profile international soccer match every year, but the city (who owns the facility) isn't going to pour large amounts of money into renovating a stadium that only holds a limited amount of events per year, plus any renovation would interfere with access and use of the park that surrounds the stadium itself, so Pasadena isn't going to limit access, and come out of pocket for a limited schedule and the residents will NEVER approve additional events to be held at the Rose Bowl. The Kia Forum was bought and renovated by MSG as a purely musical venue, it was bought by Steve Balmer the owner of the Clippers when MSG sued Balmer over the placement of his new arena next to the Forum, but that ended when Balmer just purchased the venue outright and as a "theatre in the round" arena it offers a unique experience that is extremely popular and a better alternative to arenas that do not have optimized concert specific acoustics. Yes, they will renovate slightly for the Olympics, but it still has a long useful life ahead of it as a concert venue as part of the Inglewood Entertainment district
I think you're overthinking things... in recent history, California and the cities are NOT playing the public money game much... Oakland showed the hurdles that the state has put in place and SoFi in LA showed that if you want to build it, you are welcome to do so but don't look for government monies... especially if it's baseball/football... Hockey/basketball is nowhere near the $$$ and they seem fine with it.. So I would be really slow in this... The coliseum and Rose Bowl.. college stadiums.. those are notoriously slow to change simply because they can't make threats to leave... and obsolete... To me, a stadium is obsolete when engineers condemn it for safety reasons.. or the turf is so bad you can't play on it.. Who cares if it's not "pretty"... people don't pay $$$$ for pretty.. they pay for the game... and a new stadium only helps revenues for about 1-2 years... then it goes right back to what it was before.. in-line with how good the team performs..
Not true. Sacramento Kings, 49ers, Padres, Giants and Lakers all got some public funding to make their stadiums happen. Oakland fans and politicians were inept but they "gave up" on sports. Something that will effect them later. But no...California is not exempt from public dollars.. pay attention to the Sharks..Angels and 49ers they are coming hard for the public cash next
Have you ever been to Angels Stadium? You always want to pack on the Angels alot on this channel. It's one of the nicest park in the majors. The bathrooms could use a renovation, but the stadium itself, location and parking, everything about it is perfect for Orange County. They aren't leaving. If they leave Orange County, they'll flounder and lose most of their fanbase
If it's a Michigan or Ohio State game, the LA Coliseum will be packed no matter what time of day. If it's Minnesota, Indiana, or a Rutgers, Angelenos will find other things to do.
Not being a sports venue isn’t the right gauge. The Oakland arena is the most profitable it’s ever been because they don’t have to work around 41 games. That’s going nowhere.
You don’t do much research. The Oakland Arena hosts shows and concerts weekly. It’s the only Arena on the East Bay side of the Bay Area. It’s not in danger.
While the Oakland Coliseum is likely going to get imploded as there isn't any future for it outside of Dirt Events, Rodeos, or whatever else that Stadiums host when not used for it's main purpose - the Oakland Arena will likely go the way of Kia Forum where it'll get renovations to become a premier indoor Concert venue.
It will be interesting to see how being in the Big-10 affects attendance at the Rose Bowl. As someone who grew up in LA with lots of family in the Midwest, my relatives were quick to jump on any excuse to come out to Cali.
Your comments about Angel stadium are no longer valid. Up until a few years ago the Anaheim city council was very anti development. They since have changed and have since green lit the expansion of the Disneyland resort. Also renovations outside of Honda Center have already begun, and it should ultimately improve not only Honda Center but Angel Stadium as well. Lastly, you do realize they do more than just football at the Rose Bowl? It is a highly popular concert venue as well. Coldplay played 2 sold out nights in a row several months ago.
Agreed...drove by Honda Center yesterday and they are already constructing the exterior areas. Remember..these are his 'opinions'....not rooted in any merit....just what he thinks. I agree with ur take
Honorable Mention/ Already lost: Auto Club Superspeedway in Fontana, despite plans of selling some property off and converting the track to a smaller short oval. NASCAR hasn't revealed any updates and construction photos show the majority of the track was demolished and new development right up to the remaining grandstands.
Auto racing is my favorite sport. NASCAR sold the property for the money The organization is run by.morons. They won't build a new smaller track there. Won't want to spend the money to do so.
The Oakland coliseum is not endangered... it's dead man walking.... the Oakland Arena is maybe a bit safer for other events, but agree it's on the endangered list... Then again the cow palace is still doing it's thing.
A long time before FedEx Field had it’s pipes spew sewage on fans during a game - The Oakland Colosseum had a worse, rather ‘Brown’ leakage in one of the dugouts.
I don't think it's a guarantee that the Oakland Arena gets demolished. It's on the edge of the property so it's not out of the question that it stays as part of whatever happens next to the Coliseum site. Plus, they just had their most profitable year ever in 2023 despite not having an NBA tenant.
No mention of the California Memorial Stadium, a stadium that’s built on a fault line in a state that is known for Earthquakes and is over a 100 years old. Yeah try again DG
I've been to the Oakland Coliseum, on the way there there's a ton of homeless people. Why don't they instead of demolishing it they use it to house the homeless? They can put those small bedroom pots and it'll help the homeless crisis a lot.
Angel Stadium is not a top-tier park but it is still in great shape. They maintain the place so well. There is no thought of it being junk like Oakland is. No fans I know comment on the stadium. The concern is all about ownership.
The location of Angel Stadium is absolutely fucking perfect. It’s so easy to get in and out and I do enjoy the view and I’m not a fan either. I think it’s a great ballpark to go see a game.
The Rose Bowl needs major work.. probably would be best to kick UCLA out for a couple of years move the Rose Bowl for a couple of years. And tear down the stadium and build a new Rose Bowl stadium on the same site.
You forgot the former San Diego Sports Arena (now the Pechanga Arena). Stan Kroenke is now an investor in of the group looking to redevelop the home of the San Diego Rockets, San Diego Clippers and for a few games the Golden State Warriors.
I know its probably like an illusion but the Rose Bowl looks so small, its surprising unbelievable that it has a capacity of almost 90 thousand people.
The answer to the Rose Bowl????? Look at playbook when rebuilding the Hollywood Bowl and Yankee Stadium (and in a small sense, the new A trains on the MTA here in New York City).
This whole video could've been just about the the ballpark in Oakland. 99% of the stadiums talked about you yourself said that it wasn't really endangered. I don't think anybody in Southern California thinks that any stadium down here is in trouble of being "endangered".
The Rose Bowl’s primary tenant is the Tournament of Roses…if the festival stops having the football game…Pasadena will knock it down…Leaving UCLA football homeless.
They are very limited with what they can do at the LA Coliseum. It's a California state historical landmark. You can't change the existing structure very much if at all.
I used to have season tickets for UCLA at the Rose Bowl. The stadium is just old and has an historic name. Quite simply, it sucks. It needs to close. It is a pain in the ass to get to and there is zero mass transit near it. Yes, there is a shuttle, but it’s an ordeal and it takes an eternity to get to the metro from the shuttle after games. The area around the stadium where the concessions are is awful and absurdly crowded. UCLA needs to move to SoFi. SoFi is 15 minutes from campus and the Rose Bowl is 45 minutes away.
@@Luke.Cooking It will forever be the most hallowed ground in all of American sports, end of story. UCLA record and attendance has nothing to do with it.
The Rose Bowl stadium sucks. And the actual game itself even has lost its luster with college football championships and now an actual college football playoff.
The Forum isn’t going anywhere. It has already been renovated. The Forum has the best acoustics of any mid size venue in the city. It will be around for a very long time.
When the new arena in Inglewood opens, the forum would be in danger.
Yep Forum was renovated to be a top music venue
@@jordanking6939 no it won’t
forum used to have bad acoustics its better now. the rose bowl has to figure out the parking situation. was there for a coldplay show and it took an hour to get back to the car.
@@jordanking6939not it won’t. It’s a great music venue.
The Rose Bowl is officially recognized as a National Historic Landmark, so they are limited on what they can do with regards to appearance. With regards to UCLA, they should play their games at SoFi Stadium because it's much closer to campus. Playing in an NFL stadium isn't ideal, but there's no room and no money available to build an on-campus stadium at UCLA.
Inglewood may be closer to Westwood than Pasadena, but Pasadena is lovely area while Inglewood is still largely a s#it hole that is avoidable unless there’s a game or concert going on.
@@gabrielsandoval7331 No question Pasadena is a nicer place than Inglewood.
SoFi would be tough because it's got an NFL game almost every weekend on account of being shared by the rams and chargers. But maybe it wouldn't matter since they use artifical turf
It's younger than Dodger stadium. The only way I see it being demolished if they do move but who knows. It could be sold to the UFL.
@@TheMrPeteChannel What's younger than Dodger Stadium?
The Colosseum is on the national register of historic places, and isn't going to be demolished
The Forum is going nowhere. It's a world-renowned concert venue now. That was the whole point of the renovation 10 years ago by MSG. Its proximity to SoFi and Intuit are only going to make it a more attractive location for concert events, and that's saying so as it's already routinely hosting major, major artists on consecutive nights every month.
Honestly, your take that the Rose Bowl is even remotely in danger makes every other take you have diminished. There’s not one iota of truth to the Rose Bowl becoming the Cotton Bowl. UCLA issue is losing.
Your take is so wrong. They play non conference games at noon in September when it’s over 100 degrees at game time. There’s no cover or shade of any kind and there is never a breeze at that time of year. Then comes the drastic and complete opposite by November. They are now playing meaningful conference games at 7:30 at night. The temperature is now in the low 40’s high 30’s with a wind chill coming off the mountains making it feel like it’s in the 20’s. Now factor in that it’s 26 miles from the UCLA campus making it hard for students to attend games. Then factor in how hard it is to get in and out of the stadium because it’s in the middle of a neighborhood and you have the reason for the low attendance. Oh yeah and the Bruins are mediocre on good years.
Oakland Arena is staying around for years. Surprisingly it made its most profitable year last year
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Used to be called the Los Angeles Forum when the LA Kings played there.
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What do people freaking expect from their sports facility. Why does everything have to be so shiny and new. My last Rose Bowl game was just great. Good sightlines comfortable seat. I say don’t change a thing. Despite if it gets a little scruffy. What is the big deal about having splashy venues. It’s just ridiculous.
Yep, reduculous.
There's a couple of issues at play with the facilities featured in this video,
With regards the Rose Bowl, not only is it designated a National Historic Landmark limiting what changes can be made to the structure, the city of Pasadena and the surrounding community (which is extremely affluent and politically well connected), have a cap on how many events per year can be held at the Rose Bowl, aside from something huge like a World Cup or the Olympics, the UCLA football season and the Rose Bowl game take up most of those available events, so you will have the annual 4th of July celebration, a handful of top tier massive concerts or maybe a high profile international soccer match every year, but the city (who owns the facility) isn't going to pour large amounts of money into renovating a stadium that only holds a limited amount of events per year, plus any renovation would interfere with access and use of the park that surrounds the stadium itself, so Pasadena isn't going to limit access, and come out of pocket for a limited schedule and the residents will NEVER approve additional events to be held at the Rose Bowl.
The Kia Forum was bought and renovated by MSG as a purely musical venue, it was bought by Steve Balmer the owner of the Clippers when MSG sued Balmer over the placement of his new arena next to the Forum, but that ended when Balmer just purchased the venue outright and as a "theatre in the round" arena it offers a unique experience that is extremely popular and a better alternative to arenas that do not have optimized concert specific acoustics. Yes, they will renovate slightly for the Olympics, but it still has a long useful life ahead of it as a concert venue as part of the Inglewood Entertainment district
I think you're overthinking things... in recent history, California and the cities are NOT playing the public money game much... Oakland showed the hurdles that the state has put in place and SoFi in LA showed that if you want to build it, you are welcome to do so but don't look for government monies... especially if it's baseball/football... Hockey/basketball is nowhere near the $$$ and they seem fine with it.. So I would be really slow in this... The coliseum and Rose Bowl.. college stadiums.. those are notoriously slow to change simply because they can't make threats to leave... and obsolete... To me, a stadium is obsolete when engineers condemn it for safety reasons.. or the turf is so bad you can't play on it.. Who cares if it's not "pretty"... people don't pay $$$$ for pretty.. they pay for the game... and a new stadium only helps revenues for about 1-2 years... then it goes right back to what it was before.. in-line with how good the team performs..
Well put. A new stadium attracts a lot in the first few years - after that - it's back to where it was.
Not true. Sacramento Kings, 49ers, Padres, Giants and Lakers all got some public funding to make their stadiums happen. Oakland fans and politicians were inept but they "gave up" on sports. Something that will effect them later. But no...California is not exempt from public dollars.. pay attention to the Sharks..Angels and 49ers they are coming hard for the public cash next
Have you ever been to Angels Stadium? You always want to pack on the Angels alot on this channel. It's one of the nicest park in the majors. The bathrooms could use a renovation, but the stadium itself, location and parking, everything about it is perfect for Orange County. They aren't leaving. If they leave Orange County, they'll flounder and lose most of their fanbase
If it's a Michigan or Ohio State game, the LA Coliseum will be packed no matter what time of day. If it's Minnesota, Indiana, or a Rutgers, Angelenos will find other things to do.
Kia Forum is essentially going to be a concert venue from my understanding.
It has been for the last 15 years.
Angels will continue to be a S#!TSHOW as long as Arte Moreno owns them
They still bring in around 20k in ticket sales per game .
Just like the A,s owners !
Not being a sports venue isn’t the right gauge. The Oakland arena is the most profitable it’s ever been because they don’t have to work around 41 games. That’s going nowhere.
Rose Bowl is a historical landmark. It will continue to exist, but may end up only hosting The Rose Bowl/Tournament Of Roses, and nothing else
You don’t do much research. The Oakland Arena hosts shows and concerts weekly. It’s the only Arena on the East Bay side of the Bay Area. It’s not in danger.
While the Oakland Coliseum is likely going to get imploded as there isn't any future for it outside of Dirt Events, Rodeos, or whatever else that Stadiums host when not used for it's main purpose - the Oakland Arena will likely go the way of Kia Forum where it'll get renovations to become a premier indoor Concert venue.
‘You don’t do much research.’
And with that sentence, you’ve summarized most of this guy’s videos.
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@@Anim3GamerJohn Fisher owns half the Coliseum land. He still has something over Oakland
what's with my buddy's hatred of Angel Stadium? Dude, have you been to the stadium? No one here wants a new stadium. The stadium is just fine.
No its not fine it's old and decrepit
It's awful. I've been to 15 MLB Stadiums, and Angel Stadium is easily one of the worst.
That stadium is not "just fine".
It needs a face lift but far from the worst in the league
@@widk2decrepit? No. Old yes
It will be interesting to see how being in the Big-10 affects attendance at the Rose Bowl. As someone who grew up in LA with lots of family in the Midwest, my relatives were quick to jump on any excuse to come out to Cali.
Nebraska fans would go to a third tier bowl bowl game on Mars
You said cali ha ha ha ha.
The Kia forum was renovated as a concert venue by MSG right before balmer bought it from them
Your comments about Angel stadium are no longer valid. Up until a few years ago the Anaheim city council was very anti development. They since have changed and have since green lit the expansion of the Disneyland resort. Also renovations outside of Honda Center have already begun, and it should ultimately improve not only Honda Center but Angel Stadium as well. Lastly, you do realize they do more than just football at the Rose Bowl? It is a highly popular concert venue as well. Coldplay played 2 sold out nights in a row several months ago.
Agreed...drove by Honda Center yesterday and they are already constructing the exterior areas. Remember..these are his 'opinions'....not rooted in any merit....just what he thinks. I agree with ur take
Honorable Mention/ Already lost: Auto Club Superspeedway in Fontana, despite plans of selling some property off and converting the track to a smaller short oval. NASCAR hasn't revealed any updates and construction photos show the majority of the track was demolished and new development right up to the remaining grandstands.
Auto racing is my favorite sport.
NASCAR sold the property for the money
The organization is run by.morons.
They won't build a new smaller track there.
Won't want to spend the money to do so.
The Oakland coliseum is not endangered... it's dead man walking.... the Oakland Arena is maybe a bit safer for other events, but agree it's on the endangered list... Then again the cow palace is still doing it's thing.
A long time before FedEx Field had it’s pipes spew sewage on fans during a game - The Oakland Colosseum had a worse, rather ‘Brown’ leakage in one of the dugouts.
I don't think it's a guarantee that the Oakland Arena gets demolished. It's on the edge of the property so it's not out of the question that it stays as part of whatever happens next to the Coliseum site. Plus, they just had their most profitable year ever in 2023 despite not having an NBA tenant.
With regard to the Big 10, a 92000 seat Rose Bowl is not considered to be too big. Just wait until Michigan and OSU fans pack that place.
These rich kids have way too much money if they can fly to LA just to watch a football game.
@@marblox9300 it's the alumni who have the money!
No mention of the California Memorial Stadium, a stadium that’s built on a fault line in a state that is known for Earthquakes and is over a 100 years old. Yeah try again DG
Cal BEARS !
8:04 The NFL’s Los Angeles Rams and UFL’s Los Angeles Wildcats should remain at the LA Coliseum in downtown Los Angeles
I've been to the Oakland Coliseum, on the way there there's a ton of homeless people. Why don't they instead of demolishing it they use it to house the homeless? They can put those small bedroom pots and it'll help the homeless crisis a lot.
Kia Forum mostly gets used for concerts and events these days. Brady roast happened there
Angel Stadium is not a top-tier park but it is still in great shape. They maintain the place so well. There is no thought of it being junk like Oakland is. No fans I know comment on the stadium. The concern is all about ownership.
All team owners in the NFL want solid gold toilet seats in the executive restroom.
The location of Angel Stadium is absolutely fucking perfect. It’s so easy to get in and out and I do enjoy the view and I’m not a fan either. I think it’s a great ballpark to go see a game.
UCLA needs to move their home games to Sofi. It makes too much sense.
The Rose Bowl needs major work.. probably would be best to kick UCLA out for a couple of years move the Rose Bowl for a couple of years.
And tear down the stadium and build a new Rose Bowl stadium on the same site.
I see nothing wrong with the exterior of the Honda Center.
California is endangered. Half the retail stores on Wilshire Blvd in Beverly Hills are closed. Entire buildings and blocks are empty
We need to vote republican
You forgot the former San Diego Sports Arena (now the Pechanga Arena). Stan Kroenke is now an investor in of the group looking to redevelop the home of the San Diego Rockets, San Diego Clippers and for a few games the Golden State Warriors.
Men's Soccer World cup 2026 stadiums? Did you know men play too?
I know its probably like an illusion but the Rose Bowl looks so small, its surprising unbelievable that it has a capacity of almost 90 thousand people.
If you ever go to a Rose Bowl you’ll quickly understand why, you’re packed in there like sardines 😂
Angel stadium needs to be renovated and a new owner
Why would you show Candlestick Park, when talking about the Angels? LOL
You missed the San Diego Sports Arena
The answer to the Rose Bowl????? Look at playbook when rebuilding the Hollywood Bowl and Yankee Stadium (and in a small sense, the new A trains on the MTA here in New York City).
This whole video could've been just about the the ballpark in Oakland. 99% of the stadiums talked about you yourself said that it wasn't really endangered. I don't think anybody in Southern California thinks that any stadium down here is in trouble of being "endangered".
The Rose Bowl’s primary tenant is the Tournament of Roses…if the festival stops having the football game…Pasadena will knock it down…Leaving UCLA football homeless.
Its a Historical Landmark. Its never getting torn down no matter what happens.
October can be brutal in LA.
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They are very limited with what they can do at the LA Coliseum. It's a California state historical landmark. You can't change the existing structure very much if at all.
The Angeles stadium is one of the safest stadiums comparison to dodgers
Being safe has nothing to do with it being a dump.
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I used to have season tickets for UCLA at the Rose Bowl. The stadium is just old and has an historic name. Quite simply, it sucks. It needs to close. It is a pain in the ass to get to and there is zero mass transit near it. Yes, there is a shuttle, but it’s an ordeal and it takes an eternity to get to the metro from the shuttle after games. The area around the stadium where the concessions are is awful and absurdly crowded. UCLA needs to move to SoFi. SoFi is 15 minutes from campus and the Rose Bowl is 45 minutes away.
15 mins from campus? You know it takes 15-20mins just to get to off campus and onto the 405.
@@Luke.Cooking I’m talking in best case scenario. It’s closer to 30 minutes probably.
PLEASE don't call it kia FORUM! It hurts just to hear it!
Rose bowl is overrated
The Rose Bowl is the most hallowed ground of any stadium in America.
@@gracedagostino5231 it was. Now you get 5-6 ucla games that 32k, well-spaced fans attend.
@@Luke.Cooking It will forever be the most hallowed ground in all of American sports, end of story. UCLA record and attendance has nothing to do with it.
@@gracedagostino5231 so hallowed and revered that tens of fans show up for 6 weekends a year.
The Rose Bowl stadium sucks.
And the actual game itself even has lost its luster with college football championships and now an actual college football playoff.
Stadiums? The Whole State of California is 'endangered'....
That’s only what Fox News and Newsmax says
Nah. /
The Rose Bowl is iconic, but it is a dump.
Yep.
That's what I've heard about the Rose Bowl.
Sad actually.
Title and picture is total click bait. Rose Bowl is not in danger of anything.
Oakland Arena isn't going anywhere.