Porsche '987' Boxster S vs Cayman S - All Things Equal, Which One's Better?
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- čas přidán 22. 11. 2020
- Our first #HumansOfOutMotorsports video features Joey and Matthew and their dueling pandemic Porsche purchases! Meet the boys, their cars, and learn why one chose a 2007 Porsche Boxster S when the other chose a 2007 Porsche Cayman S. Which one would YOU pick?
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Besides being a great drive, the 987 Cayman is such a gorgeous car ; an all-time classic Porsche design
It will age VERY well - already has!
@@OutMotorsports Yes! More beautiful than the 718
The 987 Cayman has more in common with the early 911 then the current 911's .
the current 911's are way to bloated..
@@stijnvandamme76 Have to agree. Years ago, I had a 993 Carrera - (wish I still had that car...) But my Cayman feels just as nimble, lighter, and is way more fun.
@@stijnvandamme76 Agree. The 992 911s are not beautiful cars. The 987 Cayman and 964 911s are the most beautiful cars Porsche has ever built. Who cares about deviated stitching?
I owned a 987.1 Cayman S and loved it and now I own a 981 Boxster S. Both are great cars. After not being a convertible fan, I now know that the ultimate way to experience that magical Porsche flat 6 is with the top down on a warm summer night. I can’t imagine a more pure motoring experience. If you want top down, go with the Boxster. If you don’t, get the Cayman. Driving dynamics is basically identical whether comparing the 987 Boxster/Cayman or the 981 Boxster/Cayman.
Correction > The PDK transmission was not offered until 2009 in the 987.2 models. The Tiptronic automatic gearbox was offered on 987.1 models.
Yep, we should have clarified - thanks for mentioning it!
One costs twice as much so I hope so.
As I get older I appreciate a steel roof.
Better for rain,thief's,bears and crashing.
I was about to say
So good to see these 2 getting the love they deserve. I've owned my 987 boxster S for about 6 years now and I never tire of the car. As far as the maintenance goes it's really not all that scary so long as you get a PPI and you don't do the maintenance at the Porsche dealer ( any independent shop that services germans can work on it). In fact I do all my own maintenance it's truly quite easy. For the money it's hard to think of a purer, more enjoyable car. But to answer your quesiton, the answer is the boxster. And if you want better looks, buy the boxster spyder :)
They are really fantastic, doubly so at the price point! And based on Joey and Matthew's ownership experiences so far - right there with you on not being too bad to maintain.
I've owned three 987S Caymans, and currently own a 986 Boxster S. I've loved them all, but the Boxster is the keeper. Nothing like an open Porsche.
I chose the Boxster and ordered the removable hardtop for the winter: Best of both worlds. Admittedly the looks are not as smooth as the Cayman but the Boxster with the factory hardtop look grows on you. You can go with a contrasting color top for a unique look. Just got it last month: 2009 base model, blue top, blue interior, white exterior, Lagoon Green Hardtop on its way. I love the Manual Transmission!
Excellent point. My mind is now set on a Boxster. I'll be going with the hardtop for winter as well. I made a quick search and have seen Cayman style tops and also a Targa option with the hardtop, which would be amazing imo
Where'd you get the hardtop?
@@drainis I looked used but not many options, I ordered mine from Porsche in Germany through a US Porsche parts dealer, Sun Coast Parts I think
Just got a base 2009 Boxster a few months ago. And even thought my thinking was never to get a black car again, because 2009-2012 Boxsters are so hard to come by, got the black on... and not an S... The car has been great.
Matt, if your white Boxster with blue interior, and from the sounds of it, either a Lagoon Green or blue hardtop, looks as good as those colors together sound, it must look brilliant! Forever manual! & Cheers from Charlotte, NC
I got a 987.1 Cayman S and I love it. After driving it for the better part of a year, the only thing missing was a convertible top. A quick search on autotempest found me a beautiful 987.1 Base model Boxster for a great price. I flew to California and drove it back to the east coast. What a great week. Now I have a nice choice to make in the morning. eeny meeny miny moe...
You don't need two S's. The Cayman is the better S. The boxster's strength is the top. Get both.
There are certainly worse garage-mates to have! Sounds like the best of both worlds for you, congrats!
Especially if you go for a drive on driving roads, or scenic landscapes like a national park, canyons, mountain roads etc, having the roof down makes the experience soo much better every time. Also revving out the first gears is much more glorious with the roof down acoustically. Unless you get this to convert it in to a track car, which it really isn't anyway, the Boxster is the more involved experience with the car, the elements and the environment. The Cayman looks better compared to the closed soft top, but you are not supposed to date it, you are supposed to drive it.
Cayman all day every day.
This year I purchased a 2003 Boxster S, a black convertible with only 5,800 miles, yes less that 6K miles. It cost a few dollars to change the fluids and I also need to have the IMS bearing replaced and even though the tires look new, they are 17 years old and need replacing also. It’s worth every penny, driving this 6 speed with the top down makes this old man feel young again. Of course I put Gertrude away for the winter and I can’t wait for spring to go out and play.
I was 100% in the Cayman S with PDK camp for many years and had planned on getting one. But I recently became a fan of convertibles . . . so I pulled the trigger on a 2006 Boxster S 6MT just yesterday!
I’ve got an 08 987 Cayman S Sport Limited Edition, I absolutely love it.
I have a 987 S as a weekend drive absolutely love it :)
Cayman first came out in late 2005 !! I have one from 2006, an S model and love it. Added some nice mods to to incl a full Capristo exhaust and bigger 19 inch wheels from the 911 S, the lovely Lobster claw design, and lowered the suspension with Eibach springs. Looks limes better now.
former 911 owner, want a boxster now, my son has one and its terrific.Gotta have a soft top.
Dad, get the boxster!! Just Retired, 30+ years, and got a 2006 BX s!!! My 2 daughters, late 20s old, sez all their girlfriends love their daddy's car, it's so SEXY?!! I say , baby u can drive my car!!! jus don't tell mom!? 2 daughters response?? OK, cool !!!! Wat??? Porsche built 4 women, love it,!!! ??? !!! I do 2!!!! DO IT!! HOPING YOUR SON is cool too!! on the down low!! PEACE!
Good video, wish you would please list out (and preferably link) the upgrades made to these cars (exhaust, shifter kit, etc.). Thanks!
As a fellow daily 987 Cayman owner and pandemic Porsche purchaser. I completely relate to the Cayman owner as I too came from a GTI (MK6). The Cayman ticks all my boxes for a fun and practical daily. I hope to run into these guys driving around the NOVA area or at a local PCA event.
Nice review... I agree on the "convertible person"... I drive my 09 MX-5 in winter top down with blue skies and minus 10 celsius.. and the 09 Base Cayman anytime closed when I need more storage space!
Nice video. I have a Cayman S as I'm not a convertible person but the older I get the more I fancy a convertible. I really think these 987s will be future classics.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed! Truly hard to go wrong with either Cayman or Boxster, and we agree about the 987 as a future classic... good idea to scoop one up now as prices are pretty reasonable for what they are!
I think I’d rather have the Cayman, but the huge price difference between them would sway me to the Boxster.
I have a 987 boxster and I love mine soooo much! Nothing drives like a Porsche.
Brilliant video!
Simple. If you are ugly get a Cayman if you are not get a Boxster
osea que eres de cayman entonces
Drive thru in style, burger king, order Bruce Lee's favorite burger, whaaaa..paaaaa! and drink? Waaaa taaa!! Boxster style, .!convertible style.
@@MK-su6eg I have always said be like water my friend
@@biggerbitcoin5126, flow like water, and the powers of it. aka Bruce Leeroy, the blacanese brother, from a different mother. You have my graatitude!
I love that you struggle so much with the choice. Feel the same way haha. Think I'd get which one I could find the better deal on.
Right?! At this point, we'd proooobably lean toward the Boxster since we already have a purpose-built racecar for that sort of fun. But they are just both so dang good.
Great video! Would like to find a 986 removable hardtop in Meridian Metallic for the best of both worlds but easier said than done...lol
What a cool couple of cars. They are soooo similar in the grand scheme of things it's kind of funny to be too opiniated about it. Sometimes when I drive a Boxster I wonder if the ride would be a lot quieter on a rough highway. Perhaps it's not so much that it's loud, but I just wonder if you'd get all that noise.
I had to get AAA to pop one of the doors open on a Boxster and the technician said that seal was the tightest he's ever seen on a car. So it's not a floppy rag top by any means.
i like the boxster due to the fact in the summer u can have the top down
Great video.
Thanks!
Excellent video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed! It was a fun one to put together.
The mk2 came with optional PDk those came with automatic
I always told myself I'd get a Cayman one day, because I didn't like convertibles. Then I test drove a Miata and realized that actually I freaking LOVE convertibles. I ended up buying an NC Miata but I'm still considering a move up to a Boxster. I just have to determine if it's actually a move up or not, since this Miata really is very fine. I don't need a fast car, I need a fun car.
That said, if you're not sure about Cayman or Boxster, I'd say go Boxster because they're almost always cheaper. At least where I live (PNW, maybe that's why) the premium for a Cayman over a Boxster is almost as big as 997 over Cayman. You should be quite sure you prefer the Cayman if you're going to pay more. Or, like, just shop on price and condition and options and ignore the difference. For me, I'm after a Boxster. Unless I still like my NC better. We'll see.
I've had 2 Boxsters, the 981 and currently a 718. I really can't imagine why I would ever buy a Cayman. They look good but here in Florida you've got to put the top down....and you still get 2 trunks.
Oh, in Florida?! No contest, Boxster all day long!
Is that the same E36 that used in the Regular Car Reviews E36 M3 video?
I’ve got a boxster but think I’ll get a cayman next. The roof makes it look better to me now
i love the look of the cayman but dropping the top is so fkn awsome
@@kevinburke5468 Agree 100%
It will also have better handling due to the body rigidity ...
Cayman is beautiful, I’ve had a 987 Boxter, it was superb and sounded immense. I’d buy another, Boxter that is.
B-o-x-s-t-e-r😹Traded my 05 S for a 981 Spyder, lol 😆
Solid video except for the lack of Cayman rear end shots 😢😆
I wanted a Boxter S but was swayed by the track ability of the Cayman S, in hindsight I wish I would’ve bought the Boxter instead as I wanted. Currently looking for a Boxter S
Something about a convertible, right?! Cayman is definitely the winner for track use with that roof - no rollbar required - but depending how you're using it most often... easy to see why the Boxster wins out.
Do it!!! I did ! No REGRETS, should of been earlier,,,,!!
Cayman S if you really want a car to drive like a car. Stiffer and better handling. 987 looks gorgeous, even better in 2021.
Agreed, the 987 Cayman has aged beautifully, it’s classic!
I am the owner of an 06 Cayman S and was admiring the center console in the Cayman shown here. Did the owner refinish the center console in the body color, or was it sourced? If so, what was the technique to refinish the console, or where was it sourced? Thanks.
Hey Andy - Joey did a lot of little tweaks to both clean up and customize his Cayman. He removed the center console and sprayed it to match the body color using a can of spray touch-up paint. Proper prep work and some wet-sanding after painting is required but it came out great and is a smooth, glossy finish that adds a nice pop to the interior.
It was a factory option, mine is metallic black the same as the body.
You mentioned they both chose the manual over the PDK. The Tiptronic was the automatic in the 987.1, the PDK was offered in the 987.2 as the automatic
Yeah - forgot to get that specific, we always think "two pedal Porsche" as a PDK! But the manual option stands head and shoulders above a torque-converter 'box.
@@OutMotorsports No sweat...Porsche owners can be unnecessarily picky. FYI...I own a PDK Boxster(987.2)...my brother has Tiptronic one(987.1) Huge difference.
I would take my 99 Boxster any day over the Cayman. To boot, I did order mine with the ULTIMATE UPGRADE, the removable hardtop generally cuddled in the big linen closet during the summer months and then fitted atop come dec thru feb
Cayman S....a keeper EVERY ......moment...second of driving any of them. 😍A becoming legend. Before Cayman S I used to have a 80s 911 Targa (red). There are many magic things in common.
Whenever I see a Dakar yelllow E36 M3 , I think of Dados M3 and the Tekademics Mischief videos
I own a 986 Boxster S, I like the 986 better. But I might be a bit biased.
The transmission information is incorrect. The PDK was not offered during the run of the 987.1 / 997.1 model years. It wasn't available until the 987.2 / 997.2. The .1's had the Tiptronic which was a torque converter auto.
Correct, sorry we goofed there and should have been more clear. Boo hiss to a torque converter in these, but the .2's PDK is excellent.
@@OutMotorsports Happens to the best of us. Honestly, I didn't realize I was the 8 millionth person to call you guys out on that, so my bad also. I'm sure it's not cool hearing the same thing from umpteen people.
Did you notice any difference in the steering feel/responsiveness between the Cayman and Boxster?
I thought I had read years ago the Cayman's was a little more responsively sporty. That may have been compared to the 987.1 Boxster from 2005-06 until Porsche level matched the horsepower in 2007 in the Boxster and Cayman.
It's been a while now since that video was filmed, from our memory they felt similar enough. Nothing stands out as being markedly different.
@@OutMotorsports Thanks for the reply! One of the other comments I read later seemed to confirm the same.
It is all the more a tough choice. Ya said it well: the Boxster is a excellent convertible but the Cayman is just so good looking.
Why worry....they’re so cheap we bought both. They have very different characteristics cayman at the limit is better but the Boxster is just more fun.
Cayman every single day! I'm bias tho as I own a 987 S. Great video btw.
Boxster engine is a 3.2 litre with 280 hp whereas the Cayman S is a 3.4 litre with 295 hp. The Cayman also has an extra 15 lbs of torque.
😂
My 06 Boxster S is a 3.4lt
The 2007's and 2008's Boxster/Cayman S both have the 3.4L
Boxster s2006, convertible views year round, night and day, even rain is warm, so in Hawaii, my choice is was automatic, not complaining about that. Aloha.
Ok im about to be 17 im choosing between a 987 boxter or cayman idc about coupe or convertble but i want to know is the cayman worth 3-5 k more for the euquivent version
It really, really depends if you want a coupe or convertible. Convertibles are fun. Please attend some autocross and HPDE no matter what you buy!
they are the same car for different people, so the question is bs.. not all things are equal, the drivers that pick em are different and that is the deciding factor
Thank you for clarifying this important detail!
I've also bought a cayman 3.4 s, for me the rear of the Cayman looks so much beefier at the back I know its not a lot in terms of actual measurements but looks more in person to me.
Congrats! The Cayman definitely has a presence to it from behind.
Porsche did not offer PDK in 2007. PDK was available ftom 2009.
I will pick the boxster, the choice between driving with the top up or down makes the car feel more special over weekends. That said the 986 boxster will in future have the most value as it was the first generation. The cayman is now the cheapest model when looking at 718 models.
The 987 Cayman S was also a 1st Generation as you say...or Gen1 or Gen 2 models as we Cayman Owner's say.
Pinky Lai had alot of input into the Porsche Cayman design.....look him up.
Bought 2005 boxster in 2016 with $92k miles for $12k. Year later sold for $13500. I did water pump,low temp thermostat even they weren't leaking and Trans service. Guy had first Gen Viper. He bought its from me while he was going through divorce with his wife. I bought 2005 911 c2 year later. Big driving difference. Boxster handled batter but I prefer 911.
997.1 or 997.2? The. 2 is soo expensive
I think these still has the IMS problem. Should I worry about that if I want to buy one?
Theoretically they do, in practice it seems to have affected a very small percentage of engines. If you are prone to worrying, budget to have the IMS replaced when you buy the car. There are replacement parts that can be installed with no risk of failure.
.1 is triptronic
That engine is a 2007? Damn! It sounds somewhat hard core, what would a Carrerra be like then? Porsches are badass
Flat sixes, especially Porsche flat sixes with exhausts, sound so so good!
I wonder if I'd fit in a Cayman. I'm 6'4" and lean. I need to find one where I am and check one of these out.
Really depends on your torso vs leg proportions!
@@OutMotorsports Makes sense. I need to go drive one.
Both those cars being .1 would have been Tiptronic if not manual, PDK wasn’t until the .2
Tiptronic with the sport chrono pack was a great choice, super fast changes without the worry of damaging the clutch packs in stop go town traffic.
I've got a lot more headroom means nothing unless you say how tall you are.
Sorry! Jake is about 6'1" and a pretty even split torso vs legs.
Dude where did you get your jacket?
Believe it or not that was a faux-leather jacket from Express. Cost about $80 in 2013(?) or something. Finally wore it out last year.
987.1’s did not come with the PDK. It was the tiptronic
obviously the Cayman is better, it has a roof that won't leak , make noise, has lower drag and adds chassis stiffness.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Matthew!!! ❤
that cayman really sounds like a 911, it is much better than the boxter. i think it the sound would make for more of an exciting drive too
Guys what is the name and size of the wheels on cayman please ??
They are 18’s. I think they are called Boxster S wheels. That’s what is listed on my production spec sheet for my car. I have same wheels.
Those are the stock 18” wheels that a Cayman S came with from the factory, there were other wheel options to choose if you went for a 19” wheel
"You don't hear as much exhaust in the Cayman." -Quotes that didn't age well.
Nah, it's aged very well. Convertibles allow you to experience more of your environment, to include exhaust noise.
@@OutMotorsports Sorry, what I meant by that was that the moment he says that line, in the video, the ensuing exhaust noise is extremely loud and sublime. Was a just funny editing quirk on the audio levels that I found amusing.
I wonder what my Porsche Cayman s 2010 is it a 987?
Yes, that’s a 987.2
boxster s 981 OR E300 E COUPE ?PLS help
Oh wow, those are two very different choices. Depends on what you value more - top-down fun or a more relaxed highway cruiser/GT.
Does Matthew have an IG?!
Touche to Tony for admitting that all money you put into it will be lost
I pick the boxster. The body lines are made for the top to be down.
I’d get the cayman
We're still waffling over here.
My advice: buy one of each.
Currently shopping these in central Florida. Prefer the Cayman, but DAMN are they overpriced compared to the Boxters! Decent 987 Caymans are 30K+, meanwhile, comparable Boxters are around 20K.. Caymans are a whopping 50% more expensive!!!
I guess that means my preference for the Cayman is in the majority. Higher demand for the Cayman, higher prices...
Not higher demand, there technically less of them
@@malcolmn.5222 You're prob right, lower supply. No doubt they sold far more Boxters.
I'm another Pandemic Porsche owner with an '07 CS. What I love is looking in my side mirrors and seeing the hips. They are 1.5" higher than a Boxster's. Great cars and to each their own. Rear 3/4 view is so sexy on the Cayman.
The Cayman has such a good butt.
PASM is AMAZEBALLS.
buy both!
Awesome cars!! Love the comparisons!
Without watching the video, its the Cayman...150% stronger body shell, more power, handles better, looks better, is better.
Tuff choice
We're still not 100% sure which one we'd pick........
You said you fit comfortably in the Cayman, may we know your height please?
6'1"
Great video y'all! Cayman
Cayman s easy the better car.
Cayman looks better aesthetically.
The cayman S was clearly a custom build when new because it has the center console painted exterior color..strange it doesn’t have any other nice options
The center console was removed and sprayed with color-matched spray (touch up) paint and clear coat.
Out Motorsports Oh thanks ,that makes a Lot more sense ! Looks cool too
If the Cayman would have had a sunroof , I would have gone Cayman. opted for Boxster w PDK. Not sorry
imho .. sunroofs are only good for smokers, they serve no purpose whatsoever if you don't smoke
They didn’t add sunroof because of the curved roof, but they do have rack mounts for your mountain bike or ski’s
I too made a pandemic Porsche purchase! Had to be a 981 Cayman S for me, looks so sexy and that MA1.23 3.4L flat 6 sounds better than any non-V10 in my opinion. I always feel too exposed in convertibles and the Cayman is ridiculously practical so I didn't look at a Boxster. I've never really been a big Porsche guy, but they know how to make a fun sports car.
Also, I live in the UK so we get about half as many hours of sun per year as San Diego, for example. Partly because we're further north, obviously (here in the UK is level with the top of Newfoundland) but also it's just constantly cloudy- even Anchorage gets over 20% more sun than we do! Not many inches of rain here, just lots of days where it drizzles. Really not much point in buying a convertible...
Sounds like the perfect choice then! Congrats on the Cayman!
@@OutMotorsports Thanks ☺
i myself went for a 2009 base cayman with the 2.9 engine, 3.4's where out of my budget of the 987.2's. But it goes fast enough for me haha.
The non-S cars are plenty quick and a great option!
lol @ the owner intro poses
Cayman all the time! More ridigity
Well it only comes down appearance really. So Cayman obviously wins. The Boxter just isn't as attractive.
I've got PASM on my Boxster S. Unless your roads are butter smooth it's simply too stiff to be enjoyable and can often upset the handling. I do love the sport mode throttle tuning though, it really sharpens the response and makes heal toe shifts that much better
I couldn’t get a Boxster after having an S2000, Cayman all the way for me. Boxster is kind of ugly I think.
Cayman S >>>> Boxster S
Not sure what's sexier, the Cayman or the owner :heart-eyes:
Cayman for me ;-)
Cayman looks better, and doesn't get your hair fucked up, has lower maintenance problems with age (no roof mechanical issues)
Boxster is good for slapheads who want to be seen.