Actions of Kamila Valieva’s coach described as chilling - BBC News
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- International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach said it was "chilling" to see the "cold" way Kamila Valieva was treated by her Russian coach after falls in her figure skating routine at at the Winter Olympics in Beijing.
Valieva, weighed down by a doping scandal and questions over the wisdom of allowing her to compete, came fourth on Thursday after several mistakes.
There was no hug and no comfort for the 15-year-old from coach Eteri Tutberidze when she immediately came off the ice, instead she was asked "why did you stop fighting?"
Tutberidze, whose training methods were already under the spotlight, did put her arm around the young Russian while she waited for her score. But moments before that had demanded to know: "Why did you let it go? Explain it to me, why?"
Valieva is the subject of an anti-doping investigation after testing positive for angina drug trimetazidine. The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) has also said it will be investigating Valieva's entourage, including coaches, doctors and other adults surrounding her.
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The coach did not just fail Valieva. The gold medalist Sherbakova, was left sitting alone. The only hug or congratulations she received was from the wonderful Japanese bronze medalist.
Oh who cares. Gold is its own reward.
Tutberidze was with Valieva at that time
@Naver블로그: 성재기의 유산 All the news was about Valieva...the Russian skater that came in 2nd threw a temper tantrum b/c she didn't win. It was literally about everybody other than the gold medalist and Japan's skater realized it and comforted her.
The other girls were doing the most to the point where the actual gold medalist had no one there to congratulate her except the bronze medalist b/c all the ROC coaches were focused on the other skaters. It's almost like they were expected one of those two to be the winner and not her.
who did not see the broadcast, I explain that it was Anna's face in the waiting room IMMEDIATELY after Camilla's performance. We do not see the logical joy from the realization of her own championship, at that moment she was worried about the failed rental of her friend. And least of all she is upset by her own loneliness and the absence of coaches, because her friend is now much more painful! And maybe she understands why Camilla performed so badly. Just Anna Nobility and Compassion with a capital letter! Which in our time in big sport is almost unrealistic.
@@YAe71 I agree...Anna was so much more mature than most people would've been. Sakamoto was also amazing though...she was the only one there to comfort her. Anna may have understood what her teammate was going through, but both her Russian teammates (and coaches) were more concerned about themselves to suck it up and congratulate her. The Olympics are about sportsmanship and Sakamoto was the only one showing it in that moment tbh.
Kamila shouldn't have skated tbh...just for her own personal mental health. She's only 15 and literally had to deal with media scrutiny about doping right before the biggest skate of her career (so far)...that's a lot to deal with for an adult, let alone a teenager. I wasn't surprised that she fell...she prob honestly subconscious sabotaged herself b/c she didn't feel like she deserved it
after she saw that she was fourth, she said "but the ceremony will not be canceled now" and began to sob, it's so heartbreaking and it breaks my heart
That's why i felt like she failed on purpose. She sacrificed herself for her team.
@@mirieshii1948 Could be the only choice she could have in such a condition… by taking responsibility or sacrificing…so sad.
Glad she lost after all she failed a drugs test and should not have been competing anyway.
So glad the winners could get their moments of glory and receive the medals properly
@@CricketEngland it's an old drug test from december though, she wasn't on peds during any performance at olympia.
@@msv-yu9ui are you kidding? She shouldn’t of indulged at all, regardless of timing.
The amount of pressure that was put upon the kid is frightening. I hope the Olympic games turn into a fun and exciting event for athletes and their supporters with no other tears but the tears of joy. Great respect for the athletes who put their mental health and well-being first.
It used to be an honour just to be by the Olympics. I was shocked when I heard about the age of these girls, just because they can make better jumps than a grown up, it's really sad!
She's 15 I feel so sorry for her. The years of hard work put in early morning and constant dieting destroyed by the gread of old people that use them for medals
There are videos of her skating at age 5 so she has been training for this event for over 10 years. That's 12 hour days for over a decade to only lose because of doping gone wrong.
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Just like that and their schooling is a side issue.
Practice a priority, sad.
"Now they won't cancel the figure skater awards ceremony." Here's what Kamila said to her coaches.
Kamila needs to be protected, period. She's just a child. I have seen almost every video of her on CZcams when she's practicing, being interviewed in more relaxed ways, dancing, speaking to Putin in a zoom call infront of the whole Russian olympic team and all I can say is that she is so sweet and determined. You can see it in her eyes she has a gentle soul, a good heart and truly is passionate about her sport. I mean, it's unbelievable to see what she is capable of doing. She could be the worlds best ballerina too if she wanted. Sadly, the same thing can't be said about that female coach of hers. If you actually do a bit of a research she's basically raising young girls, pre puberty to become insanely good. When they hit puberty and their bodies break down because of a training method not based on muscles but on weight, she basically throw them off at nearest garbage/landfill station. This happened with both Olympic champ Zagitova and silver medalist/world champion Medvedeva. I am absolutely full of admiration for all these Russian girls; Valieva, Tursova, Zagitova, Medvedeva, Shcherbakova. They deserve all the support they can get because what they have been doing during their careers is just simply breathtaking. I honestly don't think people understand how hard they train and the emotional ups and downs they go through. They are all warrior princesse's
100% agree.
She's a cheat.
Вы больны на голову!
@@user-vj7ek2cw8n Me? Why?
As for the sharp negative towards Eteri, this is public opinion formed under the microscope, based on the dominant of her group, which is unlikely to end soon. This can be understood, as well as the fact that the focus of anti-fans will be the suspicious Eteri, and not the really suffering and needy children around the world. All three of her champions from Lepnitskaya, Medvedeva and Zagitova did not leave due to injuries. Two of them could not bear the burden of fame and just wanted to relax after years of work. You are an Olympic champion, what more could you ask for? Why did Evgenia, having left for Canada, not tell about the exploitation and pressure of Eteri, if any? Why didn't she have a career with the brilliant Orser? Why are those who left Eteri returning to Tutberidze, is it Kostornaya, Trusova? maybe we should talk about this and about the opinion of the athletes themselves, who know what they need?
Those coaches were absolutely awful to not only Kamila but her teammates too. Sherbakova won first palace and was left standing alone, with none of her coaches congratulating her. It was quite evident that her accomplishments meant nothing to them. In her moment of of fame she was basically told that she was undeserving because her teammate was supposed to have won. All of those girls are young, and they all deserve adults around them that are supportive and safe. Having Kamila compete should never have happened. Not only for her but for all of the athletes who were there to compete clean. It was much harder on Kamila's mental health, then having her sit out due to the doping scandal. In the end she is a child, and her entourage failed her. I hope those coaches are banned, and that there are consequences for them for the abuse and neglect they committed.
Thank you very much !😀
Please, don't talk about stuff you have no idea about, ok
Are you a medal winner, are you even an Olympian? You are a fu#$ig hypocrite.
Youre totally right but I can certainly guarantee you that there will be nothing done about it especially not from Russian authorities because this coach and her methods bring medals and thats all they want. They dont care about their athletes as much as others and their methods clearly show it.
Maybe they assumed they are going to win anyway! These people take their games very seriously and the monetary rewards to both the coaches n sport women is immense
Adults, please do not hide behind this little girl.
We need to respect every passion of all sportsmen equally.
Why she failed a drugs test , don’t matter how old she is, she should not have been in the finals
Oh I’m sure she did it willingly without any pressure or threats from her coaches and Russian officials
@@jrsam21 that’s not the point it’s still the competitors responsibility to know what medication they take and if it’s in the banned list
@@CricketEngland the problem is that it's not the CHILD's fault here. I don't think it's reasonable to expect a teenager to go against an extremely abusive coach and possibly an authoritarian government. We need to blame the people that set her to it, the ADULTS around her.
@@thalyasylos2745 those are the IOC rules and it doesn’t discriminate for anyone’s age
The IOC and Olympics are such a sham. The Olympic oath that the athletes recite is worth no more than a photo op.
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I’m no fan of the IOC but they actually tried to do the right thing thing this time. They tried to ban Kamila but when CAS took her side they did the only thing they could do. Withhold medals cause 1. They don’t want to give a medal to someone with a positive drug test, and 2. They don’t want to give the wrong medal to the 2 other skaters
@@19katherine1213 That's a cop-out. Even if they had given the medals to the wrong skaters, it would quickly be remedied. IOC, CAS et al handled this entire debacle with kid gloves. They did more harm than they would have done had they prevented Kamila from participating. The Russian Coach is not new; they have always known her capabilities and indifference. They want to be seen to be making a 'change' knowing very well they are also to blame.
They use her being underage as an excuse. Double standards is pathetic
On February 14, 2022, the CAS sports court rejected the appeals of the IOC, WADA and ISU and allowed Kamila Valieva to compete at the 2022 Olympics[22]. However, the investigation of this case is not completed and will continue after the Olympic Games.
The CAS Court, in its decision on the admission of Valieva, pointed to a violation of the WADA Code by the WADA laboratory regarding the 20-day deadline for submitting doping test results. In this regard, Valieva was deprived of the opportunity to prepare data in her defense. The Court also took into account the absence of a positive test sample during the Olympics itself and the fact that Valieva is a minor and therefore belongs to “protected persons”.
To be frank, I would use those same words to describe the IOC's actions vis-a-vis Peng Shuai... "rather than trying to help her"... Those same words. There's something very rotten in the Olympic Movement. I am not following a single event in these winter olympics. Too many things that happened and are happening are degrading and totally against the spirit proclaimed in the opening ceremonies of these events.
Not just at the Olympics... Something ugly in all sport locally, nationally all over the world and not just recently very obvious even 30 years ago.
@@davidnoelfranks1124 stories"
@@davidnoelfranks1124 yeah ‘Norman Clegg’ you need to learn some English
Thank you very much !😀
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Just want to let people know this.
Kamila says “But now the medal ceremony wont be canceled.”
Then she break down and cried
her heart out.
Real heartbreaking 💔
I almost wonder if she made the mistakes on purpose to let the ceremony take place
@@purple77ize :(
The coach's reaction and the entourage's attitude are hard to qualify. Figure skating is the expression of the beauty and senitivity ,of the grace and fair play of the people who practise it. . This tough,heartless attitude has destroyed Valieva for ever,I am afraid ! I am so sorry for the poor girl ! She didn't deserve this !
She not crying for a medal, she's disappointed for herself, this is the point, she knows what hard work she has done so far, the performance so good required only the perfection, and she loves give the best, warm wishes to you, little swan
Bach created that situation, the coach caused it though. And Kamila was the victim of it all
Got paid to drug her
How did Bach create the situation?
They might not have made the ultimate decision to let her skate , but the IOC is absolutely corrupt.
Thank you very much !😀
@@mastahfrederique1147 he made the test result public.
What sucks is she will be remembered for this not unless those around her will be found guilty and if they are than people will truly know who is at fault for the banned drugs in her system
The drugs in her system weren't even enhancing. It would have been stupid for her to have taken them intentionally so I highly doubt it was intentional. I wouldn't be surprised if a competitor put it in her drink to disqualify her, it's also completely plausible for the residue to have been left in her glass by her grandpa's meds like she said
So sad. I feel so sorry for the girl.
why
@@jeffreylebowski2440 it's not proven that she did anything wrong yet, and to receive no support is a terrible thing.
@@davidnoelfranks1124 Russian troll account
@@davidnoelfranks1124 or from Moscow.
@@matt-eu-poland or from Poland
In our, so called; 'advanced civilisation', we have placed number one as the most important goal and position in society. If you are second or third it is irrelevant. No one remembers second or third, only first place matters. We may as well get rid of the silver and bronze medal. The No1 Status is all. Never mind the fact that you are only as good as the people you compete with. You can't come first in anything without others being in the competition. A hero is only as good as how bad the enemy is. Batman is only needed because of the Joker.
Silver and Bronze are completely valid and nothing to sneeze at; I don't know at which juncture this changed. Granted, it varies by society / country in terms of how it's viewed.
Actually it depends on the person who won each medal. Kerrigan finished third in the 1992 Olympics yet the press acted as if she’d won. Kristi Yamaguchi won that year but you’d be hard pressed to think so. Sad
I agree. In fact, maybe to drive the maximum 'Greed' point home, they should give the gold medalist a mansion, a jet, a luxury sports car, a yacht, 100 million dollars, & publicly parade the losers in a humiliating fashion during the closing ceremony. "And now folks, here are all the losers from the Olympic games. Let them ride home in coach with a bag of peanuts, with no entertainment to crowds in their home countries that jeer them upon arrival."
Thank you very much !😀
In China , workers have proved that they can live without capitalists.
But mind you, not a single capitalist has proved that he can live without workers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very bad example. It tells the doping party that you can do it with the underage athletes and get away with it. What a shame!
not many underage athletes who can make it to that stage anyway tho
1. They should have informed her about the test results timely, not after she won gold.
2. They should have never made her name public as she is “protected” person and they had no right to do so.
3. They should have protected her from evil media who did nothing but backlashed her every step.
4. When they knew she was competing they said if she wins no medal ceremony
Now he is sorry how her coach spoke to her after the skate ?????! Hippocrates
agree 100%, was also 100% obvious that she 'threw' that FP.
I feel terrible for her, she was used by her coaches for their own benefit and as a result they destroyed her career and probably her future. They got her labeled as a cheat and made her a pariah.
This was a pre-planned all too predictable tragedy from self-absorbed individuals trying to hedge their bets because they didn't believe in the athlete, they were training. She's got what it takes, they don't, and they not only let her down but added to her humiliation by shunning her.
What utter hypocrisy.
The IOC produces a product entirely based on extreme pressure.
They allow children to compete in that environment.
The video shows her being supported by her coach.
The reported comment is understandable in disappointment of the moment and probably normal in the pressure situation created by the IOC and elite sport.
I think children competing is fine. But competing after a positive drug test? NO.
If her coaches wanted the best for her they would have sent her straight home not make her skate
This was a travesty to put her thru that. She should have never been able to compete. This has probably done irreparable damage to the 15 year old. I actually wept.
She failed a drugs test, no matter how it happened she tested positive and should not have been allowed to complete blame the IOC for all the mess
I watched this in the company of many Russians, and after her performance no one celebrated the Russia 1,2 they were just all literally in shock (as was I)
@@CricketEngland Its sad. They let her compete knowing the intense scrutiny and negativity that would follow. A young girl would feel the guilt of the other skater's not having a medal ceremony because of her. And now we see the support system she has. Not letting her compete would have been better than this mess that has tarnished the 2022 Olympic event for women's skating.
@@CricketEngland The CAS has the final say. Not the IOC
It's so annoying how I can't find a video of the fall anywhere.
I suppose this was the first time Thomas Bach had been watching a skating competition within 10 years.
What amazing care! First to do everything to crush a kid and then to worry how she was treated. Well done, guys 👍 Journalists, great job, you did your best to add fuel to the fire. I’d rather see him commenting on how mass media bullied a girl whose guilt has not been proven. Maybe it’s high time to stop this wave of hate and cruelty and be kinder to each other?
As an Englishman, I and many of us can see this whole thing stinks. The timing of result. The fact that she is so much better and always has been why would they risk doping. She has been squeaky clean before this "late" result and after. It's all political anti Russia propaganda.
Exactly. It's absolutely crazy the hypocrisy. They were dying for her to fall. If she hadn't, then all hell would've broken loose.
The IOC guy Thomas Bach is such a hypocrite. He/IOC handled the doping case in the worst possible way, and to re-direct attention he makes stupid comments about the interactions between Eteri and Kamila. He doesn't even understand their language and knows nothing about Russian culture. Bach makes a fool of himself. What a disgrace.
Poor Kamila. It was heartbreaking to watch her last performance. It's clear that she was told to sacrifice herself as she will not be merited with a medal if she gets podium anyway so the Russians prefer to have 2 than none.
The words of her coach contradict your hypothesis, don’t they?
Thank you very much !😀
@@kirillshabunov8670 Eteri took off her mask purposely when she said it to Kamila
Shocking how Russia treats its skaters. It’s almost as if they just see them as medals not actual human beings
@@susanwang5561 Do you imply that was a part of the staged performance? We can only guess. I don’t think it’s any more possible then other scenarios where, for example, she decided to fail by herself, or simply crumbled under the stress.
What's surprising is that ANYONE was surprised. REALLY?? The most cut throat coach on earth who calls her camp a "factory" is not going to comfort this athlete.
She's a cold blooded criminal. I just wonder how fast she'll be in prison in other countries. That would be satisfying!
But top sport is hard, you should be ready for that. You have a choice not to be part of that "factory" and just skate in some minor school for your own pleasure.
@@marcelocao4165 lol , sending to prison because of strictness. Maybe if you knew smth about pro sports, you could know that you shouldn't get any good result if your coach will be a "kind pussy, emotionally attached to you". You can't attach emotionally to any sportsmen if the real competition is only between them, because your other sportsmen will not like it. Or every coach should jump like a monkey when his sportsman winning a medal, when it was obvious?
He only trying put responsibility for this situation on the coach. But it's not his business- to comment how gentle or warm the coach is.
This guy is such a jerk... He is blaming Tutberidze, though he did everything to destroy this girl.
Totally agree
It was chilling! But Mr. Bach needed to explain why she was allowed to compete again?
May God comfort this poor girl!
haven’t you been following this case?
The IOC wanted her out but the Russian skating fed wanted her to stay. The case was sent to CAS where they ultimately ruled in the Russian skating fed’s favor. Huge corruption on CAS’s part
@@19katherine1213 Haven't you been following this case?
On February 14, 2022, the CAS sports court rejected the appeals of the IOC, WADA and ISU and allowed Kamila Valieva to compete at the 2022 Olympics[22]. However, the investigation of this case is not completed and will continue after the Olympic Games.
The CAS Court, in its decision on the admission of Valieva, pointed to a violation of the WADA Code by the WADA laboratory regarding the 20-day deadline for submitting doping test results. In this regard, Valieva was deprived of the opportunity to prepare data in her defense. The Court also took into account the absence of a positive test sample during the Olympics itself and the fact that Valieva is a minor and therefore belongs to “protected persons”.
i think people forget a lot of these athletes are still children. this is so sad
The coaches should be held accountable not the athlete
This Olympic is catastrophe!!
Kamila The Brave
Amazing display of courage from someone in an impossible situation.
Love and respect to you from the United Kingdom, you did not cry alone. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Whatever draws away attention from the IOC's own corruption.
Kamila Valieva is amazing! She is the best!.
Man, that really stinks for Kamila. It's bad enough that she basically became the unwitting villain of the competition, due to what her winning it would've meant for everyone else involved, but what makes it even worse is that she has freakin' Ludmilla Drago as her coach.
Why of bach conmenting .he should be impartial. He just made it ten times worse for her
We have completely lost our conscience!!!! A child was bullied! Now the coach is accused of coldness. You are the heartless ones. Hypocrites
Milaya da...give it to them 🙂🙂🙂
Anna, vy absolutno pravy... it is not surprising that the nation which was the source of this bullying of our lovely Russian girl is now hypocritically squealing and trying to shift the blame to the coach, it is surprising that they haven't yet mentioned Putin here... a bunch of lousy stinky hypocrites
Anyone consider she lost on purpose because she knew what was happening with her and others? If not on purpose but subconsciously and therefore crying from grief?
Вся Россия считает,что она проиграла намеренно.Посмотрите её выступления и тренировки до и даже уже после олимпиады.Конечно она могла упасть в стрессовой ситуации,один или два раза,но не на каждом шагу!Это другой уровень фигуристки
Wow, they checked every possible box when it comes to emotional and mental manipulation (trauma).
I find the fact that China gets to host the Olympics chilling and disturbing.
*I found the western propaganda fake news media gets to set all the story while not hearing from the other side even more disturbing*
@@robertgittings8662 I don't like propaganda either but it is an unfortunate fact of life. China engages in it just as everyone else does. Do you think that China's occupation of Tibet, the persecution of the Uighurs and their preparation for the invasion of Tawain are real or just Western propaganda?
I which i could give her a hug i ask the world to pray for her strength and family are not allowed at this Olympics so it's very hard on the child.
I think the Russian coach's like the role of being the kingmaker or queenmaker, in this case, more than they care about the athletes themselves. The coach Tutberidze said in previous interviews that they are running an assembly line to make champions and it's easier to motivate young girls. There is always someone else to take the current skater's place.
Child abuse is what the Russian coach is doing.
4 year old Trans children is... child abuse.
Child abuse it is that the Western media organized the persecution of Camila.
It’s Russia, people don’t matter
Only gold medals
@@evolassunglasses4673 exactly
Kindly add subtitles easy to understand
On February 14, 2022, the CAS sports court rejected the appeals of the IOC, WADA and ISU and allowed Kamila Valieva to compete at the 2022 Olympics[22]. However, the investigation of this case is not completed and will continue after the Olympic Games.
The CAS Court, in its decision on the admission of Valieva, pointed to a violation of the WADA Code by the WADA laboratory regarding the 20-day deadline for submitting doping test results. In this regard, Valieva was deprived of the opportunity to prepare data in her defense. The Court also took into account the absence of a positive test sample during the Olympics itself and the fact that Valieva is a minor and therefore belongs to “protected persons”.
Exactly.
I don't think anyone under 18 should be competing, it's fucked for the kids
Exactly
You are true
Easy for someone who hasn't been good enough at something to compete in the olympics to say. Those young people want to be there, and spend yours training while you spend hours trying to steal daddies rum and sneak off to parties.
Both figure skating and gymnastics are really pre-teen sports at this point.
@@JD-vq7ln And at the end the years of training will take a toll on their body while the guy who sneaked rum will still be leading a healthy life.
You don't like the fact that Russia is invincible in this sport. That's why you lured Camille into a trap first. If she had won, you would have done everything to take away her medals and the title of champion. But since she lost, it has become irrelevant. So now you've decided to impress the coach. And all this under the guise of caring and responsive people. Hands off our girls and their coach. They are angels..
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@@user-si9sb1lf9y Это Вы к чему?)
How the hell would doping effect a 15 year old figure skater?
_what_ is the deal? I cannot find the footage they (all the channels) describe. Let's see the damn footage!
On the contrary, I think challenging the athlete on why she had given up showed the athlete that her coach didn’t give up on her so neither should she.
Looking ashen faced and saying “It’s ok we understand” might provide comfort at the moment but would it be better for her spirit in the long run to get back up? To those who are complaining about the harshness, do you really care if Kamila can get back up?
The coach’s question wasn’t that outrageous. One could argue if the strategy and timing are right or wrong, but I don’t feel it’s full of malice like some are suggesting.
Надо быть русским,чтобы понять как тренер была права.Если бы она начала вместе с Камилой рыдать,то это было бы гораздо хуже.Как будто бы кто-то умер,а так рабочий момент,обсудили прокат.Всё что надо скажут позже.Не понимаю почему такие глупости многие пишут.Уже и не знают к чему бы ещё привязаться .И вина Камилы ещё не установлена.Все пробы до и после чистые.Нашли след микро доза совершенно бесполезного для спортсмена вещества.И ещё большой вопрос к лаборатории которая сама допустила нарушения.Почему то норвежские астматики на допинге никого не волнуют и американские спортсмены тоже.
@@user-cv1iy7ce5p та да, надо быть русским, чтобы бросать детей на амбразуры, умышленно, без угрызений совести. А чьо такова? Падумаешь - одна не смогла, другая значит займет твое место, иди рыдай, соплячка!
Точно как в армии - положить всех ради того, чтобы взять какую то деревню. В итоге - куча хероев в черных пакетах и вороватый генерал с пузом потирает медальку - он молодец! Наорал, взял какие-то руины, которые потом все равно придется оставить по ненадобности. Поразительное военное мужество!
@@justinemot2282 Смешали всё в кучу-и Валиеву и армию с деревнями и пакетами.Про девочек наших фигуристок не переживайте,какие амбразуры?Вся страна их обожает,всё у них хорошо.Я была на шоу наших спортсменов после олимпиады.Стены огромной арены дрожали от того,как их встречала публика.А уж Валиева самая любимая.Про остальной Ваш бред даже не поняла что и к чему сказано.
@@user-cv1iy7ce5pу девочек хорошо если хорошо. Только не в спорте. В спорте больше 15ти леток не будет после скандалов и просто запредельной жестокости к подопечным тренера - введено ограничение в 17 лет. Поэтому таких вот звезд с поламаными телами и судьбами будет поменьше. Что хорошо. Поэтому вообще не переживаю. Побеждать правда для путинской команды будет труднее - даже с допингами ведь Нельзя будет высасывать соки из детей на взрослых соревнованиях. Но какая разница если россию все равно никуда не пустят?
@@justinemot2282 А Вы сидите на тренировках и видите как тренеры мучают бедных русских фигуристок?😆У девочек вообще-то ещё родители есть,они не сироты.Где Вы набрались этого бреда?И со здоровьем у них после окончания спортивной карьеры всё впорядке.Все живы,выходят замуж,рожают детей,выступают в шоу.Да не пускайте нашу красоту,сами сюда едете посмотреть на настоящий уровень мастерства.Огромное количество иностранцев в Москве на шоу сама видела.Да и Вы зачем то зашли посмотреть видео.😆А чемпионат мира без русских был смешной.Рейтинг низкий.Зато видео с наших соревнований нарасхват и комментарии с любовью.А Путин всех победит,как всегда!✊И вся страна с ним!Не в первый раз России против всей Европы и США стоять.Не знаю из какой Вы страны,но прежде чем помои на других лить ,на себя в зеркало посмотрите.
The timing of this is highly suspicious.. The disputed test sample was taken in December…. And the lifting of ROC restrictions are to be reviewed next month. 🤔
Exactly my thoughts.
When BBC discuss the British athlete Ujah who also caught doping?
The Russian athlete has never taken doping, not a single commission has proven this. The decision was not based on facts, but on theory... these are fantasies... on the basis of which honestly earned awards were specially selected. Political games.
And now the United States will sit with other people’s medals, look at them and understand that it will never deserve these!!! That these are other people's medals!!!
Is this a sport in the USA where you get awards by taking them away from other athletes? Ugh, how shameful this is!
Спасибо всем неравнодушным людям. Но проблема Камилы Валиевой в том, что она русская.
А все русские и Россия для вас благодаря вашим лживым СМИ абсолютное зло.
они не поймут , не старайся друг
Все вірно кажуть ! Росію геть ! Путін Хуйло!
The girl is 15.
Her 'minders' must be charged with NEGLIGENCE at the very least. 👮♀👮♂⚖
M 🦘🏏😎
Tutberidze was with Trusova who was having hysteria at that moment about silver medal)
I feel so sad for this girl
The thing is, Kamila’s fall was faked. It was all planned, as well as Tuberitze’s fake anger towards her.
There is no way that a talented skater like Kamila, who has been performing perfectly all season, had that many falls, under whatever circumstances. She was sacrificed so that Russia can get a gold medal on spot, whatever the ramification of the doping scandal will become.
Sasha’s outbreak and crying at Tuberitze “you knew it all” tells it. If you don’t like your score, you argue with the judge, not your coach. She was mad at Tuberitze for planning this behind her back and she was basically “arranged” a silver medal.
Also it is observed that in the free program Valieva didn’t jump high enough for her quads, as if she feared that it could be too good.
I think it's more likely Valieva rebelled & that's why her coach was angry. She'd finally had it being the scapegoat & decided to throw the event to penalize those that had doped her up with a banned substance. And I say good for her, in fact I wondered before the long program if she might do just that, so it was no surprise to me when she did. That took guts! I think the proof is when in the kiss & cry section she tried to lean on a man to one side & her blond woman coach pulled her over to her & started asking hard questions. That to me is evidence Valieva rebelled. It initiated a conflict.
Oh, she could have easily failed. Talented she is but, she isn't infallible.
How that's crazy thing came to your mind, it is ridiculous
This is literally what happened, I’m surprised people aren’t seeing it this way
The Russian skating fed made her to mess up. Then Russia can still get gold and silver for good with a proper medal ceremony, everyone feels sorry for Kamila, the doping gets swept under the rug, and there’s less pressure on the investigation if she’s not on the podium. Very sneaky and calculating
I suspect this thing is being overblown because of the tensions between certain countries that I won’t name. 10 year olds used to work in English coal mines over a hundred years ago and today there are still many kids working in treacherous conditions all over the world. A coach asking an Olympic gold medal contender why they stopped fighting is what a coach should do and is definitely not cruelty. It seems everyone has become a wimp these days!
Stop pushing Putins propaganda, the drugs are bad enough.
Agree…
I agree...
Pray for this child.
It's become a children's competition, not ladies.
“Chilling” is how most describe normal Russian interaction.
Nothing out of the ordinary here
Вы ошибаетесь, русские люди очень доброжелательны) Да, они не улыбаются дежурной улыбкой, первому встречному. Но если на их лице улыбка, то она искренняя и от души. Вообще все национальности живущие в России очень гостеприимны. У нас очень любят иностранцев. Приезжайте в Россию, вы её совсем не знаете 🙏☺
All i have to say is this is just normal for them….there’s literally CZcams videos all over about this camp/team dated back years explaining how extreme that place is…..that is why these ladies are as good as they are! They are hardcore military style trained skaters….I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but i think it’s the answer to why they have swept the world. Like I’m not in shock whatsoever
It’s child abuse so
@@MyHandelsMessiah Abuse is what Western Media with wada and İOC have done, you peace of sheed, here in Russia Kamila and Eteri are warm welcome
It’s wrong, all the eating disorders, etc
Yes. They train the hardest. That’s why they always win. The Russians are the best ice skaters, ballerinas, and acrobats in the world
@@MyHandelsMessiah duh 🙄
At least no booing toward someone else national anthem or kneeling to admire criminals or stop the entire match because one word not allowed to said...amazing Olympic
Everything is turned upside down. Tutberidze is a close person for Camilla, she hugged and comforted the athlete, it was evident when the results of the performance were announced. And WADA and the IOC mocked her when they conducted daily interrogations before the competition.
I'm sorry but do you know the situations with Zagitova and Medvedeva? Tutberidze might be close, but just as long as Kamila is relevant. Then she'll stop caring.
@@Scars.mp3 Why do you think Tutberidze doesn’t care about her former students? As far as I can tell, Zagitova is pursuing a different carrier now, Medvedeva is back with Tutberidze and planning to become a coach once she stops performing.
@@inboxinbox3911 Well, it's not that easy if you ever have done sports on an elite level. It's not just "to quit". Any serious psychiatrist would confirm this. They throw their whole life plus more into this so it's just not "to quit".
@@kirillshabunov8670 Because there are newer, younger and physically fresher ones. Their bodies doesn't hold up to the training philosophy of Eteri, which is finding girls in pre puberty age that weighs 43 kgs and solely base the training on that and not on muscle. I don't like it, but i love the girls and their determination. It's surely breathtaking
@@Scars.mp3 Tutberidze is a coach, not a mom. Are you visiting your physics teacher or driving school teacher? When girls lose motivation, or other goals appear, they leave.
i think it should be possible to ban coaches and other members of a team who would be responsible for what 'medications' an athlete takes
She’s still young, she’s very talented but she needs to play fair and clean. It’s the Olympics, it’s the rules. Her coach shouldn’t have said that to her tho. That’s like kicking someone when they are already down. “Why did you stop fighting?” Her coach said. But if she did her best, it would only be looked at as the drugs helping her (in my opinion) not her true talent. I do believe she’s talented but again, she’s still so young. She has a big future in front of her. I hope she doesn’t let this get to her too much. There’s always next time. Even the best skaters have made tons of mistakes. That’s how you learn
Man is it just me but that girl looks like she was forced to throw in the towel.
Rather hypocritical for the IOC president and the western media to now pretend they work with child protection services by trying to blame her coach. Their actions since the accusation have been deplorable, yet here they are! Such nerve ,to lecture her coach about how to handle a minor. Disgusting lot!
Bach, are you ok? Sometimes it is better to keep silence if you are a real manager.
Kamila wrote on social media bout her coach : Eteri Tutberidze
You are absolute masters in your field! And you not only train, but also teach to overcome yourself, which helps not only in sports, but also in life. With you by my side, I feel protected and able to pass any test. Thank you for helping me to be strong.
probably threatened to do so.
Her coach with the pharmacy Blond hair was aware of it all along !
Coach and all adults
Around her should be held Accountable .
She Never Trust Anyone AGAIN!
She will go Solo!
Well, Chilling is the greatest feeling.
And when exactly you saw the cold reaction by the coaches? Nowhere. Propaganda must go on
@@sj8223 No.
have you considered you are stupid?
There is so much hypocrisy in this man - Thomas Bach, he is not given to understand that not everyone works on camera. Kamila thanked her coaches for their support after returning to Russia in the Instagram.
Her coaches are amongst the most successful in history. It is the structures of elite sport including the IOC that reward them, so who is to blame?
The whole system are corrupted at this point
She is 15. No need to harass a child
Tom Bach is sweating now that the huge sports bets against Valieava winning a medal in the individual made just before the alleged positive test announcement are being investigated!
The sport of figure skating is forever marred. When coaches perfer medals over skaters there is a major problem with the sport. When doping their bodies to win becomes more important than their health and long term well being then they have failed the sport at every level.
Oh, I see where it's going. Next time when all the probes are clean, they won't let russian skaters to participate in Olympics 'cause of their coaches aren't so supportive 😁
God gracious, all she said is "why did you give up?"
Thank you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Correct, which was a perfectly legitimate question from a coach who intimately knows the abilities of her student and prodigy, she wanted to know why she gave up. This tells me that it was Bach's threat to Kamila, if she medalled there would be no medal ceremony and all three girls would not be awarded. I believe the plan was to eliminate a Russian podium sweep at all costs and also discredit her coaches.
These are kids.
Treat them like it.
This year Olympics games was the worst one never
The 4 important things we should pay attention in this Camila case are as follows.
1. In this season, during 4 months from the 2nd Grand Prix Skate Canada (Oct.29.2021) to Olympic,
Camila's doping test results were all clean at 4 international competitions.
2. Only one doping test result for Russian national competition was more than 200 times polluted.
3. Why RUSADA requested doping test for domestic competition to Sweden and
what was the reason such long time (6 weeks) needed for test & result publication?
4, Under the above situation, was IOC's action against Camila appropriate?
Regarding 1 and 2,
Camila was on the way of breaking new records during that period,
so if she intentionally used drug to improve her performance, it was impossible unless she continuously used it,
Therefore it is medically impossible to explain.
And she has been negative at both the Euro Champ and the Olympics after Dec. 25, but she made an Olympic records again at team tournament.
For 3, there are two possibilities.
One possibility is that the Swedish lab made a technical error,
and the other is that RUSADA got involved in a Russian internal dark fight and deliberately tried to swap samples to kill Camila and Etheri.
It is up to you to decide which possibility is higher.
What I'm going to focus on is about 4.
Under situation of lack of convincing evidence and Camila's unacceptance of intentional doping, the IOC sued to CAS to disqualify her.
However, the CAS dismissed the IOC's indict on the grounds that Camila was a child under the age of 16 and the principle of presumption of innocence,
allowed her to compete in the individual competitions. This means not just let her go out on the ice, but let her normally can compete.
So IOC should have announced that IOC would normally award medals for the results of the competition,
but medal and record could be deprived if Camila's intentional doping definitely found out.
However, IOC put tons of pressure on Camila with a shocking decision that "If Camilla is in the top three, the awards ceremony will be cancelled.",
Eventually, this IOC's brutal threat forced her to step down herself from the podium.
Furthermore this made it impossible to watch Camila's performance in full of heavenly and mysterious beauty,
which all figure skating fans around the world wanted to see.
And it could have been the greatest performance of her life. (I pray fervently to God that it won't be!)
Camila is not only treasure of Russia but joy of all Figure skating fans around world who pursue perfect beauty!
The IOC should kneel down and beg for forgiveness to her and to all figure skating fans around the world and take all responsibility!
Right on the point!
I wish her well in 2026. She was cheated by her coaches & federation & The IOC.
Olympic committee should’ve clear competitors before start of the games.
I do not agree. As a coach you coach to fight. She said it gently and confort her as well. So sorry.. There is nothing wrong there. She indeed stopped fighting. Another girl might have reacted worst or the opposite. This means, within the same situation you can handle things differently. These girls go the the Olympics because they are trained to fight and handle high stress and pressure.
Yes, the coach was right. Enduring all the attacks, whole night long hearings the night before the female single competition, Kamila broke down after IOC announced no ceremony holding if she stays top 3.
...and now Zhulin reacting with his open letter basically saying that Eteri is such a great coach and that they should revise the list od banned substances, I think after this FS will lose many fans as it happened with in other sports like cycling
Thank you very much !😀
The Olympics need a minimum age requirement
It has a minimum age requirement. It's 15.
It needs to be raised
Cruella didn’t get her nickname by chance….
I feel media also as responsible as the coach for this poor girl's misery. She is just a child
They should Not have allowed her to compete. Wrong judgement.
Exactly they should have disqualified her according to the rules. African American sprinter in Tokyo was barred no sympathy or compassion offered to her why is this lady special?.
The ending was fascinating but also sad and human they are talking about protecting the child yet they' deliberately released the report in a middle of competition. after all you can see that at the end they are still teenagers.. what can not destroy you will make you strong.....
After all that careful doping and she still lost. Her coaches and handlers must have been quite irate.
lol she shouldn't have allowed to compete from the beginning. she dissevered that one.
Read CAS decision on her case, and than talk
Society likes to wrongly blame people. It's always been like this. When a student gets a perfect score on an exam or gets a gold medal, everyone likes to just attribute it to the student (although the teacher influenced/ inspired/ pushed the student to their full potential); when a student fails, everyone likes to blame the teacher. A wise person will say, "If a student wants to bask in the glory and rewards of competition that countless underprivileged students cannot, the student must withstand the pressure. Otherwise, give the opportunity to students that are poor and have the drive and will to fight for the opportunity."
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The coach ought to be banned from Olympic competition. Her attitude goes directly against what the scope of the Olympics are about.
you dont know anything about their relationship so stop it. that 15yr old girl is mentally more stronger than 90% of adults. u dont know how much work they put everyday to be where they are.
He didnt say anything abt her. He needs to be banned
@@sandrorogava8367 she’s a child
@@sandrorogava8367 it’s literal child abuse
You don't get to be a world class athlete, especially at that age, with pats on the head and teddy bears. Sometimes it needs a sterner approach.
Here's an idea, and I know its quite out there, but... Why not stop putting CHILDREN in these high pressure, big money, adult environments?
She shouldn’t have been allowed to compete.