Teen Tropes of Today - How TikTok Changed High School

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    The classic high school hierarchy of jocks, cheerleaders, and nerds that dominated teen movies for decades is officially dead. Instead, the new high school cafeteria is populated by E-Girls, Soft Boys, Gym Bros and VSCO Gals.
    Social media platforms like TikTok make it easier for young people to find communities of compatible peers as well as bigger issues to engage with, thus breaking down the social boundaries that long defined the rigid, outdated high-school hierarchy. Classic ideas of "popularity" are being replaced as members of previously marginalized cliques can now enjoy the power and influence that was once reserved only for the cool kids. These new, TikTok-inspired tropes integrate memes and social media aesthetics with film and TV influences, while reflecting real-life trends and personalities.
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  • @thetake
    @thetake  Před 2 lety +70

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    • @neptune0909
      @neptune0909 Před 2 lety +3

      More videos like this plsssss

    • @samanthastuessel7986
      @samanthastuessel7986 Před 2 lety +3

      One other thing I've noticed is a lot of the writers are younger. The ones writing these shows are in their mid 20s-early 30s a lot of the time. So they can draw from their own experiences and still be relevant easier than someone who is in their mid 30s-40s writing those movies in the past. They can draw on person experiences and social media.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +1

      Could you please do a video on the quiet kid trope, the angsty teen trope, and how LGBT+ characters in media are always almost female and never male.

    • @biegebythesea6775
      @biegebythesea6775 Před 2 lety +1

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  • @noomj3922
    @noomj3922 Před 2 lety +3797

    I feel like most kids don’t act like this irl it’s usually just online

    • @thankunext5602
      @thankunext5602 Před 2 lety +163

      wanna bet a little over 2 years ago all the girls in my class had hydro flasks and wore oversized T- shirts, pucca shell necklaces, birks and messy buns and would go around saying sksksksk and save the turtles now they are all e-girls

    • @majlordag1889
      @majlordag1889 Před 2 lety +76

      Some do irl but it's usually the "cool kids" cuz shyer kids would be too shy at least where I live.

    • @bigsad7524
      @bigsad7524 Před 2 lety +162

      This whole video reads like adults trying to talk about "the kids these days" and trying to be "hip with the kids"

    • @thankunext5602
      @thankunext5602 Před 2 lety +31

      @@majlordag1889 yeah it was the very basic kids most of the time tying to act cool cuz they had no personality besides having airpods

    • @gangsterrabbit4906
      @gangsterrabbit4906 Před 2 lety +11

      ikr its so soo good that people are atleast having a space where they can be themselves w/o the societal pressure of being judged

  • @gabrielleporter553
    @gabrielleporter553 Před 2 lety +2639

    hey. junior in high school here. even though there’s people that could be called “ e-girls “ or “ soft girls “ and all that, people don’t hang out because of aesthetics. usually it’s just people you’re friends with or who you do extracurriculars with- like i hang with friends from theatre and tech but we all have different aesthetics and interests as well. but like, we’re friends because we like who we are and our humor. we have some similar interests but we also have our differences . the vibes are just good overall in school

    • @carla6485
      @carla6485 Před 2 lety +96

      Agree, I graduated last year, and I feel like it's down to finding ppl that get u. I had few freinds in highschool, not because I had an "aesthetic " diferente to my classmates , but because I just have a hard time finding ppl that I vibed with. It's not about what they like to do, it's more like if I felt comfortable voicing my thoughts and opinions to them or if I could just sit in silence with them without feeling uncomfortable.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 Před 2 lety +32

      E-girls seem to me to be pound shop emos from the 00's who were in themselves pound shop goths.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +21

      @@lemsip207 emo actually derive from punk

    • @andreblackaller3560
      @andreblackaller3560 Před 2 lety +4

      Girl based on your profile picture we would 100% be friends irl

    • @sinnsage
      @sinnsage Před 2 lety +33

      as an old lady it makes me happy and proud to see gen z out there changing attitudes mostly for the better

  • @ErestuPedro
    @ErestuPedro Před 2 lety +3552

    americans really like to categorize people. it's crazy.
    dividing people into groups with specific characteristics in school is wild for my non-american mind. lol

    • @ivadervishi
      @ivadervishi Před 2 lety +333

      Frr as i was watching this video i was trying to find what categories (like nerds, jocks ect ) are students put in my school and generally in my country. I couldnt think of any. We dont have any literal translation for any of those words either. We may have some social hierarchy at school but its not that divided. There are obviously plenty of bullies but its not the same as those portrayed in american movies. If i could try and categorize people in my school it would be just 'popular extroverted ppl'(who could be good or bad students) and shy or just not as noticable student with not as large social circle at school. They also can have good or bad grades it doesnt matter much. (Im in this group lol)

    • @Leticiapais_
      @Leticiapais_ Před 2 lety +7

      Hell yeah

    • @tylerfanell8212
      @tylerfanell8212 Před 2 lety +138

      we don’t use these terms in school. The Take is just perpetuating these labels and tropes

    • @inescastellano7960
      @inescastellano7960 Před 2 lety +22

      Exactly!! In my country we don’t do that

    • @audreyfarias5678
      @audreyfarias5678 Před 2 lety +52

      The groups in my high school growing up where mostly based on ppl that had shared interests/classes eg athletics, band, theater, art, skateboarding, FFA (farming), AP classes (advanced placement) but frequently these groups overlapped & ppl where in multiple groups. With over 500 kids in my graduating class (2005) the ppl who didn't share my interests never even made it on my radar. Where y'alls schools super small or did y'all all take the same things? It seems odd that y'all wouldn't develop different interests/ passions...

  • @CL-39
    @CL-39 Před 2 lety +1784

    Still feel like it only matters if you're attractive and get at least decent grades. Maybe participating in sports or other extra curricular activities. Nothing else means much outside of movies

    • @phucbich7581
      @phucbich7581 Před 2 lety +86

      Yup, an even tho e girls are popular or whatever on tiktok school still treats emos, goths, grunges, alts, punks, ect like shit. Im a grunge-alternative girl and I get bullied everyday even at summer camp 😂 people do shit like write “go die” on my locker and stuff . It doesn’t bother me, but I’ve seen some emos get real hurt abt it and I feel bad

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +35

      @@phucbich7581 Why is emo the most bullied out of alt subculture? I kind of feel bad for them.

    • @carla6485
      @carla6485 Před 2 lety +24

      I agree, cause usually if u're attractive get good grades and play a sport (cause sadly fit=attractive) then u're probably popular. Although, and this might just be my experience coming from a public school, I feel like in private schools e girls might not be very cool but like in my public school, being emo was cool and the popular kids were emo, so it probably comes down to the amount of money the ppl have. Correct me I I'm wrong.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +26

      @@phucbich7581 Also to quote a CZcams comment: "My personal definition of an e-girl/boy is the kids who bullied the goth/emo kid, and then years later ask them for fashion advice"

    • @hallooos7585
      @hallooos7585 Před 2 lety +1

      @@phucbich7581 Bruh people actually say those things

  • @wickedamoeba8719
    @wickedamoeba8719 Před 2 lety +521

    I feel like the cool kids, cheer leaders, jocks, and nerds high school depictions were always out of touch. These high school movies were usually written by older people who have to try to remember what high school was like and need to fill in the gaps with the shallow glimpses they get from looking at their grandchild. The standard high school movies have always seemed like high budget fan fiction and not an accurate depiction of high school life.

    • @noneyabusiness6504
      @noneyabusiness6504 Před 2 lety +1

      Grandchild? More like child.

    • @Skies133
      @Skies133 Před 2 lety +16

      I agree because when mean girls came out our high school was did not have a "Queen B"

    • @persephonebasilissa5109
      @persephonebasilissa5109 Před 2 lety +11

      As someone who was a teen in the 1980s, I can say that in my experience, the teen movies/shows of that era were stylized versions of our actual social lives.
      The cliques and their interactions were basically accurate - just heightened for narrative effect. Even in my rural parochial school, we had the stereotypical popular rich girls, jocks, geeks and nerds, and outcasts.
      I'm glad social structures and interactions have changed since then. It seems better now.

    • @hellobecky84
      @hellobecky84 Před 2 lety +10

      As a 'young' Gen X-er, I do feel like we had these kinds of cliques (jocks, cool kids, nerds) until I got to my performing arts high school in Manhattan in the mid-90s, which was like being dropped 20 years into the future (just super progressive and inclusive). But my other friends' high schools were the norm, not mine. The Hollywood depictions were played up but not totally foreign, in my opinion.

    • @attabanana4709
      @attabanana4709 Před 2 lety +2

      My high school experience was exactly like napoleon dynamite

  • @magdeline8998
    @magdeline8998 Před 2 lety +1374

    I’m 16 (also American) and I think the only high school movie that is close to realistic high school for me was Lady Bird. But maybe it’s actually like Euphoria for some people and I’m just a loser lol

    • @dia6474
      @dia6474 Před 2 lety +308

      Ladybird and Booksmart to me seem like the most realistic portrayals of highschool. I especially liked Timothée Chalamet's character in Ladybird, because it showed that the cool, deep, dreamy rebel, who we are used to see as the love interest in most teen movies, can actually be the biggest asshole in reality.

    • @carla6485
      @carla6485 Před 2 lety +88

      Yeah, same and I'm not even American. I went to a private and to a public school, and in public school the kids in larger friend groups were more "emo" and "edgy" while in the private school I went to, the "cool" kids got the best grades but they were also the sporty kids. I feel like, just like in lady bird, the things that are considered cool depend on how much money the ppl that go to these schools have. It might just be my experience though.

    • @lei7414
      @lei7414 Před 2 lety +40

      The most relatable movie for me was eight grade

    • @khalilurtrahman
      @khalilurtrahman Před 2 lety +4

      @@carla6485 it was the same for in my experience too and I have been to 6 schools by now.

    • @stoplisteningtothestatic7078
      @stoplisteningtothestatic7078 Před 2 lety +46

      I relate to lexi in euphoria bc she’s the only one who just sits at home not getting any

  • @golupous
    @golupous Před 2 lety +414

    Is it just me or I’ve never seen designated groups for every type of people. I feel like everyone is a combination of all these things.

  • @Amanda-xv6qd
    @Amanda-xv6qd Před 2 lety +1144

    I feel like this is based entirely off of social media, NOT reality. I doubt the millennials making these videos truly understand what modern high school is like

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin Před 2 lety +175

      Yeah that's what I was about to say. I feel like most of these tropes literally only exist online and on Tik Tok. My little sister is in early highschool and I haven't really seen anyone that would fit into a tik tok aesthetic at school functions or anything.

    • @unluckycloverfield4316
      @unluckycloverfield4316 Před 2 lety +86

      I am a millenial and i definately don't understand what modern high school is like but.. i'm willing to believe you when you say it's not tik tok lol.
      I volunteered and taught a guest class with junior high/high school student recently, . HONESTLY, the biggest difference is how much they all actually want good grades. Like actually worrying about college and careers as much as they do is the biggest difference I saw. Of course when I was in highschool the economy was good so we were all much more optimistic. Even the kids who shipped off to iraq after graduating seemed to feel they had a good deal at the time.

    • @kairilyn
      @kairilyn Před 2 lety +26

      Damn are millennials becoming the new baby boomers?

    • @jigglyjoe206
      @jigglyjoe206 Před 2 lety +65

      these are movie tropes, they’re more like ideas and concepts, not meant to depict how teenagers are in real life

    • @kamilahynas2327
      @kamilahynas2327 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Chris-rg6nm I don't know their age but,to me,they seem to be in their 20s.

  • @Definitelynotabot4
    @Definitelynotabot4 Před 2 lety +220

    Lol. People aren't that one dimensional. This is what happens when you learn about what teenagers are like from the internet where everyone has a persona

    • @anotherrandomguy8871
      @anotherrandomguy8871 Před 2 lety +11

      Right? Since when did we take movie tropes and the internet as 100% fact of how people act all the time?

    • @sarabeatriz5569
      @sarabeatriz5569 Před 2 lety +3

      Ikr? I don't get this necessity of fitting people inside tropes, real people aren't netflix teen series characters lol

    • @omniframe8612
      @omniframe8612 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah its been like that for every generation. Its just the media, they puff stuff up for entertainment value. Everything before and after us will continue to do that it’s nothing new.

    • @thehapagirl92
      @thehapagirl92 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

  • @audreyfarias5678
    @audreyfarias5678 Před 2 lety +857

    It's interesting that the creators felt like being "popular" was important when they were growing up. While I did recognize some of the cliques from mean girls/10 things (band nerds, theater freaks, athletes, FFA kids) when I was graduating in 2005 lots of the kids belonged to multiple groups & the homecoming king was a funny/smart guy from band who didn't play any spots. My graduating class had 500+ as long as you had your friend group it really didn't matter what everyone else though

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext Před 2 lety +1

      Not so much at my school.

    • @madeofcastiron
      @madeofcastiron Před 2 lety +37

      i'm not from america, but my secondary school life was somewhat similar. everyone has their own cliques and friend groups, so no one really cares about being popular. it's more about who's nice, got good grades, and got good connections.

    • @luciskies
      @luciskies Před 2 lety +7

      I feel that. I went to an arts high school and the top two students were a string player and a visual artist. Everyone had their own group or several groups. You obviously had the musical theater kids, the art kids, the band geeks, and the dance kids. And in each art division you had preppy folks, emo kids (me), metal heads, and just pm ppl into -insert whatever- it was nice

    • @penelopeclaire539
      @penelopeclaire539 Před 2 lety +14

      Wow literally same, down to the homecoming king being a funny band kid that wasn't in sports. If you hadn't listed a year that was 12 years before my graduating year, I'd have thought we went to the same school. Maybe it's something about having a large class. My high school had about 4,000 kids in total and my class was the biggest one they'd ever had. When there's just so many people in your class, you're more likely to find a lot of groups that fit even smaller groups within them. Like each large extra curricular activity had multiple groups of friends to choose from. Popularity wasn't a focus because there were always new people to meet. It was genuinely hard to know everyone.

    • @cat-uc5qx
      @cat-uc5qx Před 2 lety +11

      It's highly regional too. Raised in San Diego and felt that my high school was exactly as you say. The star quarterback was also a lead star in the thespian club as just one example. I was an outcast and a varsity jock type. BUT. I moved to Kentucky the second half of junior year....and the "popular" and social hierarchy was very much alive and embedded in the student culture. I graduated high school in 2006.

  • @vidaphotography4073
    @vidaphotography4073 Před 2 lety +78

    Every time The Take covers Gen Z it's with such rose colored glasses lol

  • @coreysmith733
    @coreysmith733 Před 2 lety +192

    I think 21 Jump Street (2012) does a great job subverting the typical high school hierarchy. When they go back to high school, everything had changed from when they attended.

    • @michaeljohnson7937
      @michaeljohnson7937 Před 2 lety +18

      I really liked that when I watched that, weird to think that 21 jump was about 10 yearsish+ ago.

    • @madeofcastiron
      @madeofcastiron Před 2 lety +37

      the part where dave franco was like "bro you don't care about the environment? that's fucked up" got me laughing so hard because my friends and i really said something like that during my secondary school years.

  • @Dm34421
    @Dm34421 Před 2 lety +552

    The teen tropes became a parody of itself. Shows like awkward and glee did a good job on subverting teen tropes. Sadie Saxton was the mean girl but she was also insecure.

    • @lemsip207
      @lemsip207 Před 2 lety +9

      Basically simlar to the traditional ones but without the hierachy.

    • @camihl3841
      @camihl3841 Před 2 lety +3

      "You're welcome."

    • @tegantalks9612
      @tegantalks9612 Před 2 lety +4

      Glee was great for the first 3 seasons when it played as a musical comedy. After they won regionals and a few of the main cast went off to college it started taking itself too seriously and went down hill. Season 4 was okay but after Cory died it really lost its direction and the songs got worse too.
      I think Awkward stayed pretty solid until the end and the time jump in season 5 was done very well.

  • @fortune_roses
    @fortune_roses Před 2 lety +500

    3 things: YA novels turned into shows, k-pop, environmentalism

  • @ladym.7594
    @ladym.7594 Před 2 lety +205

    And here I am, a highschooler who has never been anywhere near TikTok.

    • @tiakhanna2192
      @tiakhanna2192 Před 2 lety +13

      Same. I'm from India too and now that reels are there instead of TikTok, I don't use those either. Also, I feel most Indian teenagers are getting hurt over things happening in America and don't really realise the blatant racism in their own country. This is just my opinion. Let me know if I'm missing something.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +5

      same, I don't have the app but I have seen some tiktoks on CZcams and Pinterest before

    • @gabrielanava9996
      @gabrielanava9996 Před 2 lety +8

      same, primarily because I have notice that TikTok is addictive just like Instagram, Facebook and Snapchat. I'm currently trying not to become addictive with CZcams, but gotta say that is kinda hard.

    • @andreasmeelie1889
      @andreasmeelie1889 Před 2 lety +1

      Here I am 28 and never once cared about TikTok even as a teen. Lol

    • @soirema
      @soirema Před 2 lety

      Way to go!
      So proud of you guys

  • @wattoucheng
    @wattoucheng Před 2 lety +340

    Watching fells like the Steve Buscemi ''How do you do fellow kids'' meme

    • @sammyvictors2603
      @sammyvictors2603 Před 2 lety +37

      That meme scares me because, while I don't want to grow into another grumpy old man, I don't want to come off as this to younger kids. I want to be something like Stan Lee, the Cool Old Guy trope.

    • @Definitelynotabot4
      @Definitelynotabot4 Před 2 lety +2

      Ikr😂😂

    • @mnt5592
      @mnt5592 Před 2 lety +9

      Dont forget the "music band" t-shirt

    • @lolinui1708
      @lolinui1708 Před 2 lety +10

      yessssss this video feels like your millennial aunt talking about tiktok

    • @RubyRobbins88
      @RubyRobbins88 Před 2 lety +8

      This video was more of an explainer to all the millennials and older as to what's going on with gen-z. We're clueless and I'm here to learn.

  • @mafertron6138
    @mafertron6138 Před 2 lety +158

    All this hierarchy and “popular” vs “un popular kinds”, made school kind of bizarre. For years I kind of believed school workers that way, but no it was me thinking that, in reality school is waaaay more chill. _Nobody cares what you do_ all this gossip and drama is not real in school (at least here in my experience in Mexico) aside from some typical romance here and there.
    The only thing that seems to me kind of true is the prom thing in USA, is _such important party_ , here in Mexico is not that dramatic who you are going to prom with, we don’t even have “prom queen and king” (like… adults show off “I was prom queen”… who cares?) here is more like “oh, party, if my friends go I’ll go” and some couples taking the opportunity to go together.

    • @HeadFullaStuffin
      @HeadFullaStuffin Před 2 lety +8

      The main reason prom is so big in the US is that it's the closest thing most kids here have to Quinceañeras or bar/bat mitzvas or other coming-of-age parties.

    • @franciscoancer2618
      @franciscoancer2618 Před 2 lety +1

      Same. Mexican here too.

  • @olisam9732
    @olisam9732 Před 2 lety +476

    Have American high schools ever been like what's portrayed on screen? This is something that really confused me because I've never spoken to a person my age (26), online or irl, who belonged to a "designated" group in high school. I always assumed the high school environment in movies and shows was an extremely exaggerated version of the writer's high school environment.
    I have no idea if the current high school environment is anything like what is portrayed on Tik Tok, but I really hope it isn't. It genuinely seems so exhausting and (ironically) extremely preformative and fake.

    • @zurizuri1421
      @zurizuri1421 Před 2 lety +103

      Honestly high school is so exaggerated on screen compared to real life. I just graduated this year and honestly it's very chill and pretty easy to avoid drama. The only thing that is stressful were my classes.

    • @dia6474
      @dia6474 Před 2 lety +43

      @@zurizuri1421 I couldn't have said it better myself. In the end you don't hang out with your friends because of their specific interests, hobbies or look, you just like their personality and get along with them.

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext Před 2 lety +35

      Depends on the school you attended and where you lived. I've attended two types of high schools in the 2000s. Graduated in '08, so I'm sure it has changed.
      The first one was an all-black high school near the inner city of Chicago, Illinois, USA. There, you were made to feel like an outcast if you didn't act like everyone else. I used to hang-out with all of the black people who were deemed "white acting", and what was deemed "white acting" was anything that didn't seem to be what a typical black person was into, such as anime, rock music, gothic outfits, video games, reading, etc. We were called "lames". Other groups, like those with Autism or other neurological backgrounds, also hung out with us.
      The other groups that did clique off was based on the activities they were involved in, how attractive they were, and how well they fit into black culture (using the latest slang, embracing black humor, listening to the latest music, wearing the trendiest clothes in hip-hop, etc). The black students that were super involved in activities in the school stuck together because they knew each other and met each other through those activities.
      The rest of them liked to start drama and cause fights out of boredom and would get popularity points for beating someone up. These types might have also been in gangs outside of school.
      Most of the cliques were formed based on similar interests, even if no one realized cliques were even being formed. It was subconscious pride or tribal behavior.
      The other school I attended was a multi-ethnic school, filled with more diverse people. The cliques were more strongly like the ones I saw on TV, though no one went around stating what "trope" they were. Everyone who was on the cheerleading squad stuck together because they were all on the team together. That's how they met each other, and they hung out the most with each other. It was just that simple. We didn't have as many online communities back then, so who you hung out with at school was your squad. Those who weren't in an after-school activity at this school either struggled to make friends, unless they were friendly, extroverted, and talkative, or they hung out with the friends they grew up with. There was one group of white girls that formed a group based on the girls they grew up with in their neighborhood. They were racist, classist, homophobic, and all had bad orange tans. I remember one tried to make fun of my friend's hair, asking if she needed to borrow their shampoo because they could see her dandruff at the top. They even bit off a cookie and tried to hand it to her (because she never ate lunch, since hers was too early). Luckily, my friend laughed them off and ignored them, and I put them in their place.
      The only people who "felt" the effects of these "cliques" were the people who didn't have friends and wanted some. They are more than likely the type of people who would have grown up to write movies about the stupidity of cliques because they felt left outside of it or felt bullied because of where they were told to fit in.

    • @a.d.w8385
      @a.d.w8385 Před 2 lety +10

      As a 27 year old. I agree. I do not recall cliques. There was popular and unpopular but that's about it. Someone "nerdy" could be popular to.

    • @Sapphire_Reacts
      @Sapphire_Reacts Před 2 lety +1

      my freshman and sophmore year in the first high school i went to here in Georgia was pretty much like a teen movie, everyone was divided into cliques- it was really noticable during lunch and i had a friend at every single table

  • @heywhat6676
    @heywhat6676 Před 2 lety +54

    I feel like all these modern tropes are just all about aesthetics, appearance and performatism. Its rarely goes deeper than that, and never sticks around for too long either

  • @ayumibutcher-koimai6687
    @ayumibutcher-koimai6687 Před 2 lety +362

    Not many kids in my area are like this, I kinda think this is mostly american gen-z 😅

    • @mauve9266
      @mauve9266 Před 2 lety +36

      I always thought the same 😂 Idk the extent to which these types of tropes exist outside the US but even then I’d assume it’s mostly an online thing 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +11

      I am American, and I'm in high school right now but yeah I don't really see many kids like this.

    • @nananoodle5020
      @nananoodle5020 Před 2 lety +2

      Well this is an American channel on an American platform so....

    • @maayan3795
      @maayan3795 Před 2 lety +19

      @@nananoodle5020 It is indeed an American channel that produces videos mainly about the American experience (which for me, as a non-American, is one of the major charms of this channel), but saying that CZcams is an American platform is just ignorant😂 Although CZcams is indeed owned by Americans, and was invented by Americans, it’s really such a popular and important platform in almost every country in the world, and it feels nonsensical to say that it’s an just an American platform. There are many people in my country who are addicted to CZcams without even knowing English (because there is so much more content than just simply American - English content). Although our modern world is indeed very influenced by American culture, America is not the center of the world🤷‍♀️

  • @juderenee578
    @juderenee578 Před 2 lety +51

    As someone who graduated this year, this isn’t very accurate to what high school is like nowadays lol. Most of the “troupes” or types of people the video named are just fashion/aesthetic influences lol

    • @timtam3730
      @timtam3730 Před 2 lety +4

      True. Only like, less than 10% of people in my highschool do tiktoks.
      Most of us are pretty chill but the sad thing is that people in the future will look at these videos amd think that's how everyone in our generation acted.
      But one thing that you can tell the future generations is that you graduated during a pandemic. Congrats girl!

    • @vindric8330
      @vindric8330 Před 2 lety +1

      Agree, once she mentions academia I was like, isn't that more of an fashion aesthetic for most people?

  • @uroboros_8563
    @uroboros_8563 Před 2 lety +96

    Gen z weren't the only ones who talked about social issues. You can curse Millenials all you want but they paved the way.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 Před 2 lety +15

      Yes, and I assure you, when the Boomers were in school, they *never* talked about social issues 🙄

    • @inessa5923
      @inessa5923 Před 2 lety +3

      @@NJGuy1973 My grandparents were too busy avoiding the Gulags... They should've rebelled though!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄

    • @CarolineATRC
      @CarolineATRC Před 2 lety +1

      @@NJGuy1973 honest question, is this sarcasm or not?

    • @melissaarchibald6587
      @melissaarchibald6587 Před 2 lety +9

      I hope Gen Z learns from us MIllennials. They will soon burnout if they keep trying to be everything to everyone. The problems are vast, complicated, and overwhelming. You can't do anything if you're trying to do it all.

    • @JD-xm4uf
      @JD-xm4uf Před 2 lety +10

      Gen Z weren't the first ones, but they are far more radical than millennials.

  • @KarlKristofferJohnsson
    @KarlKristofferJohnsson Před 2 lety +18

    While hearing the different kinds of nerds, I realised that I was all of them in high school. Academic, theatre kid, fanboy and gamer. All me.

  • @kindseyvaughn8667
    @kindseyvaughn8667 Před 2 lety +480

    I think people should know that when America was deciding colors to give to baby boys and girls, pink was initially considered for boys as it was a lighter shade of red, which is fairly universally seen as masculine, example:Aries/mars god of war. Also while the rest of the world has somewhat followed suite on light blue for boys and pink for girls for decades it was seen only as an American thing.

    • @guokfdukknbgjk9416
      @guokfdukknbgjk9416 Před 2 lety +15

      this pink for girls, blue for boys thing ain't come from america

    • @aurora6920
      @aurora6920 Před 2 lety +25

      It only started in England around 80-90s I think, both genders were equal before in terms of colours they could wear, mainly neutrals

    • @Acidfunkish
      @Acidfunkish Před 2 lety +32

      Before the 1920s to 1940s, pink was universally seen as the more masculine colour, and baby blue as more feminine.
      This kinda shows that colour preferences aren't an innate thing. We're taught that pink is for girls, from a super early age, so that's what we believe. But it's entirely a cultural phenomenon.

    • @janwouter5215
      @janwouter5215 Před 2 lety +1

      That's just not true xd

    • @HeadFullaStuffin
      @HeadFullaStuffin Před 2 lety +5

      I read somewhere that it was because of the pink triangles used for gay men in 1940's Germany that the switch was made. I don't know if it's actually true, but it does make sense to me.

  • @sarosenna5850
    @sarosenna5850 Před 2 lety +38

    What this video doesn't talk about: 1 in 5 young people struggling with mental health. A future of unemployment or underemployment. Hell, even the relentlessness of cyberbullying or how we grew up with social media and it profited off of making us feel bad about ourselves. The fact that we don't want to stop climate change because it's trendy, but because we will live in a hellish landscape longer than you.

  • @shanekajohnson1320
    @shanekajohnson1320 Před 2 lety +192

    Super informative on white American teen culture. Doesn’t translate to Black & Latino culture. Pretty pressure and hyper masculinity/ aggression are WAY more dominant forced stereotypes for teens of color.

    • @toomuchinformation
      @toomuchinformation Před 2 lety +52

      And colourism is a factor as well.

    • @benitajones9115
      @benitajones9115 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Exactly. I haven’t seen anything on black or Latino teen cliques and they do exists, at least they did when I was in school.

  • @pepperminttree
    @pepperminttree Před 2 lety +50

    Ehhh most people are just like this online. Vsco girl trend died out in 2019 and id say more people are “alt” or indie than e girl/ boy. Im not sure how many hs tropes there are except popular vs kind of popular vs not popular

  • @tia4337
    @tia4337 Před 2 lety +130

    me a gen z who hasn't caught up with the trend : what the hell happen here

  • @diaz9rox
    @diaz9rox Před 2 lety +11

    I was in high school in Canada 2 years ago and it was definitely like 21 jump street for me. It was about people who could do it 'all'. Be caring, smart, part of clubs, and have lots of friends, go to parties, be young.

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 Před 2 lety +20

    Old movies = Bad, New movies = Good has been a running theme for The Take for a good while now, but this video might be the most explicit expression of the idea.

  • @mcokayiguess3879
    @mcokayiguess3879 Před 2 lety +181

    So today, you can discover and celebrate your uniqueness rather than trying to fit into cliques. Internet has made being a teenager more liberating and less conformist and I absolutely love that.
    Amazing Take!!🔥🔥

    • @manalkasmi7310
      @manalkasmi7310 Před 2 lety +11

      exactly like when i was in hs there was only cool people and uncool people, and now they can choose from a variety of aesthetics the one thats more true to their personality

    • @christinemaure4216
      @christinemaure4216 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes and no yes because almost all styles that exist are represented and no because now you're quickly ashamed and humiliated as a girl we w tell that we are different and we are called pick me and basically disrespected

    • @christinemaure4216
      @christinemaure4216 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Chris-rg6nm here? No one but on the internet more and more women are called pick me just celebrate their uniqueness

    • @espifreak
      @espifreak Před 2 lety +1

      The F boys don't go away when you hit your 20s and even 30s.

    • @melissaarchibald6587
      @melissaarchibald6587 Před 2 lety +3

      As long as said teens don't become obsessed with the popularity of their non-conformity or garnering attention on social media... It's great to connect with other people over the random thing syou love as long as it stays pure.

  • @michellem9444
    @michellem9444 Před 2 lety +9

    As a kid from the 80s, we didn't really have those tropes either. In my high school, the mean kids were on the academic team, and most of the athletic/cheerleader/popular kids were actually quite nice and well-liked.

  • @Salocinist
    @Salocinist Před 2 lety +45

    Something that goes unmentioned here about the gym bro is this blooming culture of body positivity and genuine care for positive masculinity. Looking for advice and sharing progress is earnestly celebrated for all genders and body types by the typically-depicted-as-exclusionary gym bro these days, and that's really cool

  • @WhelmedButReady
    @WhelmedButReady Před 2 lety +100

    Different styles and cultures are more accepted now than ever. But I can safely say having worked in a high school environment for the last 6 years, the old school tropes are still in high demand. What I've learned in my time since being a teen is the more things change, the more they stay the same. Teen culture evolves, and yet is cyclical at the same time.

    • @j.j.3759
      @j.j.3759 Před 2 lety +4

      Are kids nicer to each other now? Or have they just moved on to new things to bully each other over? Like, I assume (and hope) kids don't get bullied anymore for being gay, but are there other things now instead?

    • @warmfood8186
      @warmfood8186 Před 2 lety +3

      @J. J.
      These days I'd describe things as more 50/50. Like there's definitely a bit of political polarization and everyone tends to hang with more likeminded people. The old teen tropes are more lose, they're still there but dated and people are friends with whoever unless it's a personal values thing. So i'd say if you have different religious beliefs or beliefs on cultural or political things or mental illness, the most strife is caused 👍 unless you have certain beliefs but don't force them on people 😊

    • @WhelmedButReady
      @WhelmedButReady Před 2 lety +4

      @@j.j.3759 Everywhere is different. In general, I would say that society has moved the needle forward enough that it isn't just unanimously shamed to be gay. At the same time, you still have your cliques that'll judge. There's also whole communities that are still unaccepting. In my experience, male teens in general shame homosexuality at least on a minor level(myself included). But I've come to learn that most of that fades away with time and maturation (as it did for me). But really social progression is dependent on the community surrounding it. Teens still mostly mimick their parent's ideals at high school age. So it really reflects the county they grew up in.

  • @bysscanna
    @bysscanna Před 2 lety +27

    these were trends that were definitely really popular in 2019, but now with the pandemic things have changed. also these types of tropes tend to be more for performance than reality. basically i think high school is never portrayed correctly in movies and tv lmao

  • @RachelAnnTaylor
    @RachelAnnTaylor Před 2 lety +219

    I’m glad I missed this version of being young/high school. Now young girls are expected to look and dress like they’re 25 year old models. Has anyone seen the prom videos on tik tok? These girls look like they’re going to the met gala and not a high school prom…..The pressure is insane.

    • @ilincabogza
      @ilincabogza Před 2 lety +58

      Also activism. You are expected to be far more grown up then you should be, even if it's just at a performative level

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin Před 2 lety +56

      Yeah I agree. It seems like there is a massive amount of pressure to behave and look like an adult and it's taking away their childhoods far too early. They have the vast majority of their life to be an adult they should enjoy being a kid while they still can. It is definitely sad to me.

    • @nikakhaiauri3478
      @nikakhaiauri3478 Před 2 lety +18

      Like the pressures always haven't been as high for teenage girls.

    • @jiyama
      @jiyama Před 2 lety +9

      i definitely wont survive this generation's peer pressures. glad i was stuck in myspace/friendster days in my teens

    • @noomj3922
      @noomj3922 Před 2 lety +17

      Ppl don’t actually act like that irl tho it’s usually just online performance

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 2 lety +184

    Yeah. I see no difference between these tropes and the old. Just a new name and coat of paint. At both my high schools your last name/lineage is all that truly mattered. Finally, what is on screen (film, tik tok, etc) is not reality. A screen is a funhouse mirror to reality. Saying it indicates reality is like saying a melted pool of ice cream indicates the shape and size of the once frozen scoop. And then this video ends with two moms jumping back and forth between reality and just such a screen.

    • @yuhyea8949
      @yuhyea8949 Před 2 lety

      Not my school tho you stay safe

    • @gabrielsouza8480
      @gabrielsouza8480 Před 2 lety +14

      While I agree with you that TikTok is not reality, it definetly reflects today's reality a lot more closely than the High School experiences of older screenwriters which shape today's teen movies. And it's not exactly about how new the tropes are, It's more about little tweaks (the new coat of paint) to make them slightly more niche, and the new relationships and hierarchy between these tropes. They used to be few and separate. Now they are many and all mingle with each other, which reflects not reality itself but the diversity of identities that exists in reality.

    • @aida_amore
      @aida_amore Před 2 lety +4

      You are absolutely correct!!

    • @sydnipollard4920
      @sydnipollard4920 Před 2 lety +1

      nice analogies

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 2 lety

      @@gabrielsouza8480 It's as much a reality of one's self as what you present in a job interview.

  • @inescastellano7960
    @inescastellano7960 Před 2 lety +149

    Teenagers nowadays are too sexualized because of social media. These new tropes can be problematic as well….

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 2 lety +25

      And they weren't sexualized in the 70s and 80s? Same Edge, Different Slant. Recognize.

    • @davidbjacobs3598
      @davidbjacobs3598 Před 2 lety +10

      If they're sexualizing themselves, isn't that more empowering than when popular movies sexualize 25-year-olds pretending to be teens? Sure there are creeps in the world, but I blame the creeps for that and not the teens who are expressing themselves however they choose. Forcing desexualization can be just as oppressive as forcing sexualization.

    • @mckymcobvious3043
      @mckymcobvious3043 Před 2 lety +7

      you remind me of people who say "i was born in the wrong decade" because "music nowadays sucks"... things are, at least in THIS way, getting BETTER, not worse. young people are more engaged with and influential of "the conversation" than literally EVER (and it does manifest as "sexualization" for some people , but they're in charge of their own instagram accounts and, frankly, should be allowed express themselves if they want!)
      Euphoria isn't "more sexualized" than Skins before it or Dawson's Creek before Skins. it's more _stylized_ , but it's not more messed up.
      teenagers have been "too sexualized" for a while. Britney was a lot younger than most of the really big kpop stars.

    • @inescastellano7960
      @inescastellano7960 Před 2 lety +16

      @@davidbjacobs3598 that’s not empowering!! They’re KIDS

    • @geniehossain3738
      @geniehossain3738 Před 2 lety +18

      Teenagers have been sexualized since the dawn of media because Hollywood is run by old pervy men who want to sleep with young bodies.

  • @thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664

    Me after watching this: I'm officially old

    • @siobhanmcshanehill895
      @siobhanmcshanehill895 Před 2 lety

      How old are you?

    • @thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664
      @thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664 Před 2 lety +4

      @@siobhanmcshanehill895 I'm under 30. But too old for tiktok

    • @thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664
      @thirstyforlaundrydetergent9664 Před 2 lety +4

      @Souven Tudu I'm a millennial

    • @anitachamberlain3391
      @anitachamberlain3391 Před 2 lety +4

      As someone who's 22, I wonder if what they're saying could be accurate because tik tok was not a thing when I was in high school. But I doubt it, because what Was depicting us even a couple of years ago in movies was way off from the actual regurgitated tropes that was our reality, so I can't imagine that highschoolers today feel like Euphoria and tik tok personalities are what they're surrounded by.

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura Před 2 lety

      lol 😂 I see this on CZcams too youtubers dressing in soft girl e girl and vsco girl

  • @bruja_cat
    @bruja_cat Před 2 lety +19

    In real life, in my experience, these cliques didn’t even matter. Most people were part of multiple groups or couldn’t be labeled. Today in real life, gen z only acts like these stereotypes online for their persona page ok tiktok. They do so because they like different “aesthetics” as a trend. There’s no more cliques the way we think of them in the 80s, it’s more about identifying with aesthetics, vibes, or certain online trends.

  • @nathanc3404
    @nathanc3404 Před 2 lety +106

    I don’t necessarily agree with this, I live in Ireland and I just finished secondary school(high school), people just hung out with people they got on well with, it wasn’t as stratified as this video makes it out to be.

    • @toomuchinformation
      @toomuchinformation Před 2 lety +13

      But you're in Ireland. This is US centric video (and channel).

    • @_900_L
      @_900_L Před 2 lety +1

      Your in Ireland this is for Americans

    • @uzma3758
      @uzma3758 Před 2 lety +21

      Yet the video doesnt say it's for Americans.
      The video says it's about teens today and majority of teen stuff is from America so where do teens like myself from England or other countries go to look at teen culture, exactly America.

    • @nathanc3404
      @nathanc3404 Před 2 lety +14

      @@toomuchinformation Yes but Teens whether it be from Ireland or Australia are watching mostly the same tiktokers as American teens, the world does not revolve around America.

    • @toomuchinformation
      @toomuchinformation Před 2 lety

      @@nathanc3404 No doubt they are, but it won't necessarily replicate itself in those ways in Australia/Ireland etc.

  • @llastgirlonearth
    @llastgirlonearth Před 2 lety +32

    Honestly all these tropes are already pretty dated, tropes & ‘aesthetics’ are changing so constantly.

    • @NoName-dx1no
      @NoName-dx1no Před 2 lety +6

      Tbh a lot of these aesthetics are just evolved or updated versions of the previous generation I’d say to wear whatever you want that makes you happy because there will be a time when it becomes a trend and goes out of it lol

  • @al8206
    @al8206 Před 2 lety +3

    as someone who’s a sophomore in highschool and only being in highschool during the whole pandemic it really changed how school itself and the “hierarchy” changed because there’s not really a thing like popularity anymore, since we mostly keep in our own groups within our classes

  • @fadethechannel
    @fadethechannel Před 2 lety +24

    “Breaking down barriers” by hyper-creating groups and sub-groups and sub-groups within sub groups lol more classification.

  • @aurora6920
    @aurora6920 Před 2 lety +103

    I'm a millennial, These already existed in my era just the media changed the name to make it seem separate from this generation and to become a trending topic. E-girl = emo (we all had social media, online gaming and emo style back then) Soft Girl = feminine girl (many people were like this) Visco girl = named after an App to help promote it, but generally a typical 12 year old girl. F Boy = player (we had loads of them on social media and offline)

    • @MissMiserize
      @MissMiserize Před 2 lety +6

      Nah. I think there is a difference, just like punk and goth and emo had different "vibes." Rebellious vs. dark and brooding vs. undiagnosed mental illness vs. the internet aesthetic. Also, gender roles are challenged - soft boy isn't sissy boy, f boys are shamed in the name while players are not.
      What it comes down to for everything is that it's no longer a clique or hierarchy. Aesthetics are just aesthetics, and expression by these people changing their clothes for fun means it's no longer about creating a pre-packaged identity or social aggression has been replaced with compassion + health.

    • @BlueBlazeKing
      @BlueBlazeKing Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly it’s basically the same beast wearing a different mask

    • @maywalker997
      @maywalker997 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MissMiserize A lot of emo boys were basically soft boys. And before emo boys there were also some feminine tropes amongst male goths (such as the aristrocrat goths, who favoured frills and finery over ripped muscles & jeans, etc). During the Punk era there were also many punks who defied gender norms.
      Players were also shamed too; people might feel physically attracted to them, but nobody actually saw them as real relationship material (quite the opposite, this was the kind of guy you'd warn your friends about to avoid). The movies of the past makes everything seem a lot more cliquey than real life ever was.
      I do think that a lot of the tropes have largely just been repackaged over time (rather than evolved). Even the new tropes are heavily commercialized (every single one comes with its set look, lifestyle package and more that you can buy and subscribe into). There is more mainstream conversation now about certain things (gender, the environment, etc) but a lot of these topics and lifestyles were already being heavily discussed amongst alternative circles before they become more widely adopted by younger generations.

  • @upsetstudios1819
    @upsetstudios1819 Před 2 lety +78

    I feel like MTV's Awkward. was, if a very small, part of this transition. It put teenagers in cringey, real situations and further explored how social media and reputation can influence your high school experience

    • @Dm34421
      @Dm34421 Před 2 lety +10

      Awkward is the only 2010s teen show that aged well

  • @Acidfunkish
    @Acidfunkish Před 2 lety +54

    Hey, The Take:
    Could you please continue to put the media title and year on clips, even after you've shown it once? Many of these movies and series feature ensemble casts, so the average viewer may not be able to tell that the first clip is from the same title as the proceeding clips, as they often don't feature the same characters, environments, and etc. I would greatly appreciate this. 🙏🏻

  • @ws6778
    @ws6778 Před 2 lety +14

    Is it just me that e-girls/boys evolved from emos, whom evolved from punks, whom evolved from goths?

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura Před 2 lety +1

      Looks like it

    • @secre.e6870
      @secre.e6870 Před 2 lety +3

      What annoys me is the they think anyone who uses black with a color is a e-girl, like people who says dracula is a e-girl, or the hairs, i have half black half blonde hair but I'm not an e-girl and this annoys me 😡

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +5

      To quote a CZcams comment: "My personal definition of an e-girl/boy is the kids who bullied the goth/emo kid, and then years later ask them for fashion advice"

    • @NoName-dx1no
      @NoName-dx1no Před 2 lety +2

      That’s basically what happened lol

  • @ayubnor0
    @ayubnor0 Před 2 lety +103

    Such an interesting video. Shows how much the teenage generations have evolved over the years.

    • @bgcrp2005
      @bgcrp2005 Před 2 lety +9

      Lol this is fake this is more social media persons everyone knows the drug dealers are the most popular

  • @zinkheroofyoutube8004
    @zinkheroofyoutube8004 Před 2 lety +8

    We need a Breakfast Club reboot with these modern teen tropes

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 Před 2 lety +6

      Oh, yeah, a Breakfast Club reboot for 2021.
      Five high school students spend Saturday detention tapping away on their phones, not uttering a word to each other.

    • @morbidsearch
      @morbidsearch Před 2 lety

      @@NJGuy1973
      Tell me, do you get all of your jokes from newspaper comics?

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Před rokem

      E-girl, soft girl, f boy, anime/ kpop guy, and hippie/beachy girl

  • @iamV10010
    @iamV10010 Před 2 lety +115

    Let's be honest here. The majority of gen z's (or any generation for that matter) political awareness and activision is mostly for internet clout and because it's very much "in" to appear to care. And I say "appear" because a social media post or tik tok video isn't changing shit no matter how viral or how many comments, likes, or views it gets. Very few of them are doing irl things to effect (affect?) true change. There is no real change intended and it's just a hashtag and a pat on the back for all the "difference" they're making. I know people will come at me for this one but it really is food for thought. And I'm not saying there isn't at least some of them who really, truly do want to help the world.
    And it's also nothing new. A ton of people from the "hippie" generation was only in it for the drugs, parties, sex, and avoidance of true adult responsibility.

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 Před 2 lety +10

      True also a lot of them were as self depriving as us milliniels so they now cope with being “woke”

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah and it's called slacktivism

    • @chasebarber10
      @chasebarber10 Před 2 lety +26

      That's not everyone though. I do agree that the whole "its a gen-z" thing is false. I'm an 01 in college now. There will always be kids in every generation who are real activists and those that clearly do it for clout or pretend to care. Gen-z is a little different though bc we are stuck in a terrible climate (environmental, political, social) at the moment and see it getting worst for the rest of our adult lives. Most kids now are mixed or fit into some oppressed group (BIPOC, LGBTQIA+, diff religion/cultural backgrounds), so more are driven to fight against what affects them. The kids who aren't going to be affected much don't really care that much. There's just slightly less of them than there was in the previous gen and same as the previous gen before that. The kids who are trying to make the most radical change still aren't "fitting in". But they're not new. Just new to the new generations.

    • @fionaxu977
      @fionaxu977 Před 2 lety +9

      @@liennn5772 I would argue that Aesthetics is a pretty apolitical thing in general, so it befuddled me why any would be considered right or left wing (unless your aesthetic is literally the young republican club leader or the social justice warrior). And also, I believe there is a saying in the vintage communities that goes “love the dress, not the values.” I can very well love Victorian dresses without supporting Victorian class stratification, so I really don’t understand.

    • @chasebarber10
      @chasebarber10 Před 2 lety +1

      @@liennn5772 anywho😂

  • @duhastbitch
    @duhastbitch Před 2 lety +12

    In my country, we don't have cliques like this. Everyone's squad is diverse... My friend circle in highschool consisted of an artist, musician, athlete etc.
    Popularity is based when you're related to the teacher or the principal.

  • @theylied1776
    @theylied1776 Před 2 lety +11

    The thing that made the early John Hughes movies hit home with Teens is due to the fact that John Hughes was a High School teacher.

  • @hollydodd9933
    @hollydodd9933 Před 2 lety +20

    Gen z does in fact remember a pre digital age. Millennials keep confusing us with their kids.

    • @tammyariel2982
      @tammyariel2982 Před 2 lety

      And forgetting that a lot of us did not grow up with the newest tech

  • @inessa5923
    @inessa5923 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm European and the hierarchy at high schools where I live is pretty nonexistent. People mostly hang out within their groups, and the most "popular" ones are therefore those who socialize and know the most people.

  • @insightful_fairy8743
    @insightful_fairy8743 Před 2 lety +13

    Me at 33 “I’m not even bothering learning about this BS” lol

  • @carla6485
    @carla6485 Před 2 lety +17

    It could be my experience, but I feel like not everything is down to a trope, it cause some ppl don't have the money to have an "aesthetic" or dress trendy, or simply don't want to, and some ppl just get by in highschool and feel like they don't belong anywhere, not because of tropes, maybe just because they feel like it's not their space. Some ppl just don't find a ton of friends in Highschool that understand them.

    • @wondermash1720
      @wondermash1720 Před 2 lety +2

      Yep. I didn't belong anywhere. But I made it through. I really wanted to be emo, but I wasn't allowed to and didn't have the funds to dress and look how I wanted. But I grew up and realized I don't have to look the part to like the music. Once I left hs I had actual genuine friends. They were different from me and shared some different interests too, because we weren't friends for that reason, we were friends because our personalities meshed and we enjoyed each other's company

  • @Hallows4
    @Hallows4 Před 2 lety +65

    Maybe I’m just weird like this, but when I was a teenager I never really watched teen movies (I was all about LOTR and similar epic-histories).

    • @beautifullEternal
      @beautifullEternal Před 2 lety +5

      It doesn’t mean you were weird, just means you were a nerd.

    • @christinemaure4216
      @christinemaure4216 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah me I was on spy kidsw, scooby doo, alice in wonderland

    • @gummy5862
      @gummy5862 Před 2 lety +7

      No you were very abnormal. The hundreds of millions of dollars those franchises made came from nowhere.

    • @SecretSquirrelFun
      @SecretSquirrelFun Před 2 lety +3

      Books are the best. I didn’t (and I still don’t) watch movies much, although I did read and watch a lot of kids tv - but not the trashy kids tv shows, the .....yeah the darker stuff, programs with either magic or sci-fi themes. Yeah, I never really got into the teen movies. And as for the other comment about “franchises”. I’ve only seen one and a half of the LOTR movies but I’ve read ALL of the books.

    • @emaserro2836
      @emaserro2836 Před 2 lety +2

      Sooo... Pick me, love me, choose me

  • @justanothersherlockian7058

    I used to go to this school where you were only popular if you were a social media addict, always on TikTok, and if you had style just like everyone else. I don't have social media and I dress very eccentrically. Glad I'm going to a different school this year where I can actually make good friends! I ended up making a dramatic farewell last year thanking my haters for helping me discover how strong I am, and man, I felt so good!!!

  • @angisnotonfire
    @angisnotonfire Před 2 lety

    i love this channel and i’ve been an enthusiast of it for a while but i’m not the type of person that leaves comments, however this one has made me emotional, and proud of my generation. i was born in the year 2000 so my hs experience was still like the old ones until maybe my senior year, and seeing all these movies that’s come out after i graduated have been so important to me. my generation has truly changed the game on so many things it feels pretty surreal to see it play out in big things like movies and mainstream, largely recognized medie. thank u for making this video it has been delightful

  • @eamonfolk601
    @eamonfolk601 Před 2 lety +6

    I got to say as a gen z person currently in high school I can say that these archetypes mostly only exist on tiktok (however i'm not on the platform so what the hell do I know)

    • @morbidsearch
      @morbidsearch Před 2 lety

      Tiktok is notorious for spreading misinformation and this is no different

  • @magnisky
    @magnisky Před 2 lety +4

    21 jump street is one of the first movies that reflected current teen culture! Glad you mentioned it.

  • @soumyasingh160
    @soumyasingh160 Před 2 lety +38

    Well it's official I am the flash when it comes to The Take

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 2 lety +1

      Seconded, congratulations on making the early squad! 🎊😎

  • @lisazoria2709
    @lisazoria2709 Před 2 lety +3

    Wait wait...Gen Z actually have friends outside the internet!?????!!! 🤯

  • @d_nerdy
    @d_nerdy Před 2 lety +11

    I think I mostly disagree with this video but I love this content and really hope you keep making stuff like this! Love talking about teen tropes and the archetypes!

  • @ritchards
    @ritchards Před 2 lety +7

    I'm not saying that this video was missing a large piece, but there is a large piece of school life, that of bullying, which is still happening and even TikTok ain't helping with that.

  • @yourchaoticadhdfriend3523

    I'm a gen z this video makes me feel like I'm not a human in the worst way possible

    • @yourchaoticadhdfriend3523
      @yourchaoticadhdfriend3523 Před 2 lety +1

      Like being an activist doesn't matter because the older generations will just make it into a cute little thing that those gen z's do.

  • @alenkavenx2056
    @alenkavenx2056 Před 2 lety +34

    The thing with this teens (from all times) is that they are so superficial. Like, Ruby Granger, who is not evrn a teen, she's not interested in knowledge, she's interested in appearing intelligent. For example, she reads 200 books a year, and most of them are short stories and children books, like she's only interested in the number of books... Same for all the asthetics: it's about the looks

    • @magdeline8998
      @magdeline8998 Před 2 lety +4

      Don’t do my girl Ruby like that 😭 she inspired me to actually study

    • @uzma3758
      @uzma3758 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree with the whole activism thing cus a bunch of kids online think they can change the world by saying wat causes u support. But it isn't like that teenagers need to understand that u can greatly benefit the world by focusing on ur most important cause and doin irl stuff for it. Then just posting vapid I support this stuff u should too on social media. This is coming from an 18 yr old btw.

    • @tiakhanna2192
      @tiakhanna2192 Před 2 lety +3

      @@uzma3758 completely agreed. It feels very fake after a while and it's not doing much unless you're actually someone with power (influencers, these days). Coming from a 16 year old.

    • @isabellamori592
      @isabellamori592 Před 2 lety +2

      Always felt this Ruby Granger too superficial too

  • @motherblue2208
    @motherblue2208 Před 2 lety +8

    I went to school in New York City (LES), and I never saw "popular kids" "nerdy kids" or any tropes portrayed in movies. Everyone just hang out with whoever had your lunch period. Any other new Yorker with a different experience?

    • @isabellamori592
      @isabellamori592 Před 2 lety +1

      I’m not from New York but in my entire life I went to 7 schools and had the same experience as yours

    • @NoName-dx1no
      @NoName-dx1no Před 2 lety

      I got to school in New York too tbh my school has so many students like nearly 4000 so there’s never really a group of people with a certain aesthetic I’ve seen girls and boys who wear the trendy clothes and stuffs but in reality everyone just sticks to their friends because there is way too many people to know or focus on no one really cares about what you wear

    • @simonj3413
      @simonj3413 Před 2 lety

      I think the lines are far more blurred in most real schools everywhere

  • @shennyyys
    @shennyyys Před 2 lety +4

    Kind’a sad that High School Musical was not referenced even once when it was a whole movie breaking free from your typical high school stereotypes and cliques and not sticking to you status quo.

  • @1rjona
    @1rjona Před 2 lety +2

    I like the discussion in the end. Movies from older generation might set the rules but it’s life online, in classroom and cafeteria define high school life today

  • @Iamthatis137
    @Iamthatis137 Před 2 lety

    Thank you! Thank you actual highschoolers and recent grads for voicing your opinions and weighing in on this topic that is super relevant to you!!! Most of you seem to be saying the same thing. That you hang out with who you vibe with and aesthetics and lifestyles don’t define your friend groups. That’s actually amazing!!! And means this video is kind of on point or at least that show is changing for the better. Honestly, we wouldn’t have defined it as articulately as you but I think a majority of Americans, regardless of their age would describe a similar high school experience. Especially in the past few decades. So your viewpoint is so relatable! However, we ourselves could not shake the grip cliques had on our social discourse. And I just have to say I can’t believe The Take left out Goths and Preps who have been a core “clique”, in media and real life, just like Jocks and Nerds for the better part of the last ~ 50 years. And of course there’s a bunch of other groupings that exist. And they really are and always were aesthetics. Anyway, the fact that the new or old aesthetics don’t define your socialization is freaking amazing!!!! Once again, analysis of your generation gives me hope for the future!!! It sucks that so many more “mature” adults exaggerate your gen’s negative qualities (it’s happened to every one of us) and make you and your trends/ characteristics out to be dumb, undesirable, and just somehow fundamentally flawed. Hey everyone in society, let’s do less of that and more of just chillin with each other and seeing things for how they actually are! The comments on this video, from this generation of teenagers has me so hopeful and happy!!!

  • @GenerationNextNextNext
    @GenerationNextNextNext Před 2 lety +11

    I've attended two types of high schools in the 2000s. Graduated in '08, so I'm sure it has changed.
    The first one was an all-black high school near the inner city of Chicago, Illinois, USA. There, you were made to feel like an outcast if you didn't act like everyone else. I used to hang-out with all of the black people who were deemed "white acting", and what was deemed "white acting" was anything that didn't seem to be what a typical black person was into, such as anime, rock music, gothic outfits, video games, reading, etc. We were called "lames". Other groups, like those with Autism or other neurological backgrounds, also hung out with us.
    The other groups that did clique off was based on the activities they were involved in, how attractive they were, and how well they fit into black culture (using the latest slang, embracing black humor, listening to the latest music, wearing the trendiest clothes in hip-hop, etc). The black students that were super involved in activities in the school stuck together because they knew each other and met each other through those activities.
    The rest of them liked to start drama and cause fights out of boredom and would get popularity points for beating someone up. These types might have also been in gangs outside of school.
    Most of the cliques were formed based on similar interests, even if no one realized cliques were even being formed. It was subconscious pride or tribal behavior.
    The other school I attended was a multi-ethnic school, filled with more diverse people. The cliques were more strongly like the ones I saw on TV, though no one went around stating what "trope" they were. Everyone who was on the cheerleading squad stuck together because they were all on the team together. That's how they met each other, and they hung out the most with each other. It was just that simple. We didn't have as many online communities back then, so who you hung out with at school was your squad. Those who weren't in an after-school activity at this school either struggled to make friends, unless they were friendly, extroverted, and talkative, or they hung out with the friends they grew up with. There was one group of white girls that formed a group based on the girls they grew up with in their neighborhood. They were racist, classist, homophobic, and all had bad orange tans. I remember one tried to make fun of my friend's hair, asking if she needed to borrow their shampoo because they could see her dandruff at the top. They even bit off a cookie and tried to hand it to her (because she never ate lunch, since hers was too early). Luckily, my friend laughed them off and ignored them, and I put them in their place.
    The only people who "felt" the effects of these "cliques" were the people who didn't have friends and wanted some. They are more than likely the type of people who would have grown up to write movies about the stupidity of cliques because they felt left outside of it or felt bullied because of where they were told to fit in.

    • @annaboes8359
      @annaboes8359 Před 2 lety

      As someone with a totally different background (I grew up on a different continent, after all), but the personal experience of not wanting to go where I was pressured to fit in, I wholeheartedly agree - it felt like bullying, and me and the others with similar experiences took to art forms we could perform alone. A lot of writers and authors are, for various reasons, the ones who sat alone at lunch or managed to have very few friends, barely ever got invited to the parties everyone went to and never got notifications about "everyone's welcome" events until after the fact. For a variety of reasons, people who do well with words on paper tend to not do so well with social structures in closed enviroments. Exceptions, of course, do exist in the thousands. :-) So, yeah, these cliques do look a lot more rigid from the outside than they look from the inside, and those tropes ignore the reality of peer pressure conflicting with personal agendas that can lead to a whole host of complex situations.

  • @andythemisfit
    @andythemisfit Před 2 lety +4

    This channel should rename itself 'The Trope'.

  • @kosmaks2
    @kosmaks2 Před 2 lety +2

    *insert steve buscemi "how do you do, fellow kids" meme*

  • @helloleesh
    @helloleesh Před 2 lety +1

    All of this important and insightful education, and all I can think about is Lizzie McGuire saying a bare midriff + "hip huggers" (haven't heard that in a while) would be "so Oops I Did It Again". No, Lizzie. That was a red latex jumpsuit. You may be thinking I'm a Slave 4 U.

  • @treyward4505
    @treyward4505 Před 2 lety +6

    This is insightful as always, but I want to confess to a weird feeling of mine. Weird to me, anyway. Sometimes when I watch videos on this kind of topic, I end up feeling down or depressed. The only thing I can think is that it makes me feel… old and irrelevant? Which I COMPLETELY understand is not the point and that it says a lot more about my own issues than anything else. I can’t help but think that if I am feeling that way after watching something like this that maybe not only are my feelings true, but maybe there’s something else going on with me. Why am I only looking at this through the lens of my own life? This has nothing to do with me. And there it is. This doesn’t have anything to do with me. So… yeah. Circular emotional thinking. I don’t really know that I want or expect and answer. Maybe just to know if I’m alone in this feeling.

    • @ekaekusia
      @ekaekusia Před 2 lety +4

      you're not alone. im in my 30s and when i watch vids like this abt gen z not only i feel old and miserable, but i also start thinking how i felt in my teens and 20s.
      comparing to how gen z are portrayed on social media and in movies my life seems so boring. i feel like i lost all these years for nothing and missed lots of opportunities. well, that's a lie. you're comparing yourself w ppl who exist only on tv screen - and almost always their characters and way of life is extremely unrealistic - pretty, smart, outspoken, partying etc. or those ppl on social media you don't even know - they also have their own struggles and may feel lost, depressed, alienated.
      try not to compare yourself to them, it only makes you miserable and unsatisfied w your own life. you're alright, you're not boring or irrelevant.

  • @phazonmichel
    @phazonmichel Před 2 lety +11

    The more things change the more they remain the same.

  • @cloudypanda12
    @cloudypanda12 Před 2 lety +1

    high school now in 2021 is very different than back in the early 2000s, back then high school was all like partying for the popular kids but being bullied for the so called "losers", im a freshman this year and honestly kids in high school are so nice they are so easy to talk to and its easy to make friends, the teachers are chill too, oh and ofc its not all about partying, you study a lot so im glad high school has changed somewhat bit :")

  • @fcv4616
    @fcv4616 Před 2 lety +16

    I find hope with the knowledge that teenagers are taking climate change more seriously, now. Back when I was in high school, I was among the few who cared, and started an ecological group to tackle school problems regarding pollution. Unfortunately, there wasn’t much commitment from either (most) students nor teachers.
    It wasn’t all bad though. We did manage to bring some inspirational workshops and some participation in activities, but I trust current teenagers will do better.

    • @andreblackaller3560
      @andreblackaller3560 Před 2 lety +1

      No one cared in my school either, then I literally chained myself to a tree to protect a local park from being turned into a CrossFit gym, it had legal grounds and I pushed to sue the developer based on the code of the environmental agency that protects areas within 0.5 miles of natural water sources. And I didn’t like to shower more than once every 3 days. Those were the days. Haha

    • @fcv4616
      @fcv4616 Před 2 lety

      @@andreblackaller3560 I commend you for your determination! Did you succeed?

    • @andreblackaller3560
      @andreblackaller3560 Před 2 lety +2

      @@fcv4616 Yes I did! And I also began a project to investigate how the government was covering a transnational beer company that is sucking up all the water in my home state in México. After a Law School professor and me went after them and leaked information to the media the news broke and the commissioner admitted that we will run out of water by 2030. Nothing happened though. I mean people panicked and all but the beer company is still going strong.

    • @fcv4616
      @fcv4616 Před 2 lety

      @@andreblackaller3560 We have a similar problem where I live too. Also, I live in Mexico too :-D
      One of the projects we tried to do before graduating was to make the school hire services from a rubbish pickup centre, instead of relying on the usual trash pick up regulated by the state. Part of the rubbish would be delivered to recycling centers in CA instead of being all sent to dump yards. Plus, we convinced the staff to install different rubbish cans to separate the litter, create some workshops, and other adaptations. Unfortunately, the school’s authority changed his mind in the middle of the process for nothing else but ego. When I told him that the school’s efforts would be certified depending on the reviews, he refused to have the school labeled as “dirty”, wasn’t willing to work hard to make the changes, and stopped our project midway. Classic moment when people want things to change, but expect others to do it so they don’t have to put in any effort.

    • @SannaJankarin
      @SannaJankarin Před 2 lety

      No one cares now. I do care since I was 13 and most of teenagers literally don't care.
      People generally don't care about environment, regardless of generation. They will only care about it when it will be too late. Thanks to capitalism and ignorance.

  • @shejuti2707
    @shejuti2707 Před 2 lety +5

    I think VSCO girls died out a while ago, but aesthetics are fun!

  • @DCT-tt8ib
    @DCT-tt8ib Před 2 lety +3

    Alternative title: “How to say you’re out of touch with today’s youth without actually saying it.”

  • @Joanbueller007
    @Joanbueller007 Před 2 lety +3

    In my country, no school has such defined groups, much less are there popular people. Either they are your friends or they are strangers and you do not care about their lives, also bullying is something little seen in the way it is seen in American movies, if you insult someone they will not remain silent, at the exit of the school is going to wait for you with all its friends to beat you up. So bullying is really strange

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura Před 2 lety

      There are the rich girls who are popular

    • @Joanbueller007
      @Joanbueller007 Před 2 lety

      @@Missmagazinebura Not here, they may have a large group of friends, but those of other grades are not interested in their lives. In the movies it seems that the whole school likes 1 person, that could never happen

    • @annaboes8359
      @annaboes8359 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Joanbueller007 In my country neither, not like this, but bullying is still a thing here. Not everyone has friends to come and beat that bastard up. I had to rely on my little brothers friends once. :-D

    • @Joanbueller007
      @Joanbueller007 Před 2 lety

      @@annaboes8359 oh, that's so sad. Nobody deserve that

    • @annaboes8359
      @annaboes8359 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Joanbueller007 XD don't worry, I'm okay now. And I'm happy with myself, including my residual akwardness. Thanks for your compassion, but teenage years are a bit of hell for a lot of people. Most of us make it out alive and up to better things. :)

  • @MariaJoseRangelUwU
    @MariaJoseRangelUwU Před 2 lety +7

    I just think it’s funny when you get teen movies that were obviously written by adults who have no idea how teen culture works nowadays. “Yeaaaah tiktok imma right? Memes?”
    I remember the Sierra Burgess movie when they sent each other 10 y/o animal pictures and they were all “you’re the funniest girl ever”, if someone online sent me that I would totally think they’re actually 40.

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 Před 2 lety

      Yeah true but it’s not like teens have a voice or millions of dollars to make movies so that’s why it’s the same old folks doing it 🤭

    • @MariaJoseRangelUwU
      @MariaJoseRangelUwU Před 2 lety

      @@markigirl2757 i just wish someone there had the great idea of actually having teen consultants for teen movies like they do for other types of movies, so they wouldn’t be so cringy xd

  • @paisan8766
    @paisan8766 Před 2 lety +8

    Gen Z is unbelievably corny

  • @leticiag.8345
    @leticiag.8345 Před 2 lety +11

    I am a nerd. I study a lot, like I also study in the school break, I'm a fan of the geek culture, I don't put too much thought into style, I just wear jeans, sneakers and any t-shirt I find, I'm not really into sports, I don't drink or do any drug at all, I don't like parties and I'm not a fan of social media.

    • @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97
      @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97 Před 2 lety +5

      My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

    • @jeanjacquesjarolzoua9946
      @jeanjacquesjarolzoua9946 Před 2 lety

      Your just a normal student who Care for his futur

  • @cityremade
    @cityremade Před rokem

    I absolutely love your insights!! Great work!

  • @georgebernard5783
    @georgebernard5783 Před 2 lety +8

    I wonder how many other Gen Z’ers feel detached from generational identity. I dislike the word “Zoomer” and our generation being seen conflated with TikTok, a commercial app or being called the “iGen” comes off as very obnoxious and off putting.

    • @MissMiserize
      @MissMiserize Před 2 lety +2

      It feels like the "hello fellow kids!" meme. I can either be classified as gen-z or millennial based on who's classifying, I'm differently not like either 40 or 12-year-olds. People weren't so worried about age stereotypes before. It's become obnoxious marketing "cool' words no one thinks is cool.

  • @geministar6167
    @geministar6167 Před 2 lety +4

    I love this. Kids today are so inclusive and amazing

    • @timtam3730
      @timtam3730 Před 2 lety +5

      Coming from a kid, you are dead wrong

  • @BeGlamourlicious
    @BeGlamourlicious Před 2 lety +3

    I always felt waaaaay out of the box and therefore lonely 😞.

  • @kaloyanpetrov7863
    @kaloyanpetrov7863 Před 2 lety

    Senior year here. So during my highschool experience what i learned is that as long as you are open, speak and socialize with people you will equal to everyone

  • @ravenwood3695
    @ravenwood3695 Před 2 lety

    This was very interesting. I never realised tiktok had that much impact but yeah, I'm so glad that kids today have better tropes to watch. Thanks 😊

  • @DungForever
    @DungForever Před 2 lety +33

    Let's stop pretending our high schools didn't have cliques. It's literally social behavior. We gravitate towards those who are similar or exhibit qualities we want. I work with high school kids. They're just as cliquey as I was when I was their age. Y'all in these comments need to calm down with "this isn't real!" Like calm down. It's an in depth analysis on our social interactions in a small environment.

    • @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97
      @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97 Před 2 lety +8

      You can't speak for people whom you don't share the demographic of, that's no different than mansplaining or speaking for other cultures.

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis Před 2 lety +6

      This. When a person claims that everyone is equal in their environment; assume the speaker is in the most important group.

    • @francescafrancesca3554
      @francescafrancesca3554 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mysteriiis Maybe don't assume it, but consider the possibility? If it's assumed, you might perpetuate the problem you are trying to deal with: misidentifying groups of people by assuming inefficient representations of them as the reality. Just a tough tho, have a nice day!

    • @xavierrodriguez1370
      @xavierrodriguez1370 Před 2 lety

      I mean, all schools have cliques, but in most places, they're nothing like this. They're just groups of friends, they don't have aesthetics or color schemes or whatever else.

    • @michaelvalentine4129
      @michaelvalentine4129 Před 2 lety

      This for a fact IS NOT TRUE. I am in a friend group where I myself is the only one who likes playing roblox. Not everything I like, my friends like as well. This can said with other kids in my classroom.

  • @acherryproTV
    @acherryproTV Před 2 lety +4

    these comments... smh... clearly the video is about teen tropes online and on film it doesn't necessarily or always reflect real life y'all

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 Před 2 lety +2

      I know righttt this whole channel talks about movie tropes I’m literally every video but I guess they never seen their videos so they just jump to conclusions

  • @mecheva9098
    @mecheva9098 Před 2 lety +2

    Part of the blending of hierarchies, or types, I think comes FROM the parents, who grew up with popular/unpopular experience and are striving to teach their kids to be more thoughtful and accepting of others.

  • @Snarl_Marx
    @Snarl_Marx Před 2 lety +2

    I've only ever "fit in" to one group: "You should probably go to rehab."

  • @bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
    @bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 Před 2 lety +7

    Mean Girls did for the teen movie genre what Scream did for the horror genre

  • @kamilahynas2327
    @kamilahynas2327 Před 2 lety +5

    I always wondered if those teen movies reflected real American high school. I enjoyed them but never found them very relatable.

  • @electron2601
    @electron2601 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video! Your content is so thorough and well presented.