The Bimbo Trope, Explained - Reclaiming the Label

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  • čas přidán 9. 02. 2021
  • The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/thetake02212 | The “Bimbo” is a label that for a long time has been seen as purely negative. But who gets to define who or what a Bimbo is? And is there anything positive about being a Bimbo? While the Himbo (or male bimbo) has been on the rise, for a long time it seemed like the female “Bimbo” label was too unambiguously critical to be salvaged. Now, at last, the Bimbo movement has begun, led by a series of semi-ironic TikTok videos that call for respecting hyper-femininity and redefining Bimbo culture as an inclusive, empowering mindset. Here’s our Take on pop-culture Bimbos, and why it’s important to include them on the spectrum of femininity.
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  • @thetake
    @thetake  Před 3 lety +171

    The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/thetake02212​

    • @angierose1428
      @angierose1428 Před 3 lety +3

      Angel and devil trope

    • @evilcleiton3768
      @evilcleiton3768 Před 3 lety +2

      I recently re-watched the movie "What women want" with Mel Gibson, and it has very interesting topics for a "toxic takeaway"

    • @ippelinastar9664
      @ippelinastar9664 Před 3 lety

      can you explain the feisty redhead trope?

    • @jamoniarnold4136
      @jamoniarnold4136 Před 3 lety

      Explain The new Amazon movie Bliss!!!

    • @annarose932
      @annarose932 Před rokem

      Just out of curiosity, what would the opposite of a bimbo be? There's the meme of the Bimbo transformation, but not sure what the girl opposite would be called. Like book worm?

  • @zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784
    @zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784 Před 3 lety +4751

    Another trope that Elle Woods tromped on with her pink stilettos

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 3 lety +169

      Agreed, I love that Elle teaches us that appearances aren't everything, and rises above everyone who doubted her! 💞

    • @Love25648
      @Love25648 Před 3 lety +228

      I swear legally blonde broke half the female tropes talked on here

    • @amandak.5967
      @amandak.5967 Před 3 lety +100

      Yaas! She was so cool! And I'm glad that she and Vivian both ended up ditching the guy and becoming friends :)

    • @Nightman221k
      @Nightman221k Před 3 lety +69

      Legally Blonde was a masterwork of making a un work of fiction have a bold cultural impact.

    • @quarantinedcosmonaut4082
      @quarantinedcosmonaut4082 Před 3 lety +14

      I love her!

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Před 3 lety +5235

    Karen from "Mean Girls" is probably the best known example, but what she lacks in brains, she makes up for in heart, and is the least malicious of the Plastics, since she genuinely doesn't know any better. 💜

    • @user-uw5mw8yh1u
      @user-uw5mw8yh1u Před 3 lety +243

      I don't know why but the heart sent me lmaooo

    • @mbrammy7
      @mbrammy7 Před 3 lety +609

      Karen doesn’t realise she’s participating in a high school hierarchy that profits her, she just thinks Regina and Gretchen are her friends

    • @happychaosofthenorth
      @happychaosofthenorth Před 3 lety +170

      She and Jason Mendoza from "The Good Place" have a lot in common in that regard.

    • @fakenayhn
      @fakenayhn Před 3 lety +33

      She's way better in the musical don't @ me.

    • @gracehaven5459
      @gracehaven5459 Před 3 lety +20

      Well yeah, caught that from the accidental incest lmao

  • @v444_4
    @v444_4 Před 3 lety +3923

    It's sad that so many of us felt like having girly style, wearing pink, not taking ourselves seriously 24/7 when we were growing up was bad! I'm 22 and having so much fun reclaiming a part of me I felt had to be toned down to be taken seriously! Bimbos really stress just having fun and doing what makes you happy!!

    • @heranails8363
      @heranails8363 Před 3 lety +36

      Same here!

    • @Shaylanswanson
      @Shaylanswanson Před 3 lety +124

      I think as young girls a lot of us had that phase because of the way feminine sex roles and stereotypes were pushed on us. Girls are forced into uncomfortable dresses , told they need to alter their bodies to fit into the female beauty standard, socialized to perform domestic and emotional labor, told to be quiet and prim and proper, to aspire to be princesses, all while seeing boys getting to just...exist, naturally, as they are, wild and carefree and comfortable, with aspirations to be superheroes and scientists...and so of course we fight back against those norms. An 8 year old might not have the ability to vocalize that sort of critical analysis but they do know that "dresses and pink are for girls" and they don't want to be restricted by such things, they want to be more, they want to be different, and so you get the "I HATE PINK" phase you see a lot of young girls have.
      I think as we get older we're able to see that some of those interests and traits aren't inherently negative, they just come with a lot of baggage and so we can pick and choose what feels good for us. Dresses are fun to wear, pink is a really lovely color. But I also think that critical analysis of the social pressures that exist for us as women that may cause us to "choose" to engage in certain feminine activities or embody certain feminine traits is important. That rejection of femininity we had as young people may have been overly simplistic in execution but to some degree the idea behind it wasn't all wrong.

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Před 3 lety +12

      @@Shaylanswanson who is telling you this? Your parents? Literally there are no boys running around demanding girls wear pink, so you must be internalizing your misery from elsewhere like your own house... or perhaps some other girls you hang out w tell you to be that way. Bc boys literally couldnt give less of a fuck, so these gender roles being pushed onto you must come from hollywood or sth

    • @Shaylanswanson
      @Shaylanswanson Před 3 lety +64

      @@MrEvldreamr I'm speaking more to the implicit socialization that girls go through rather than this being explicitly said by any one specific person - though that happens too. I also never said it was coming from boys, it's something I've seen women and men perpetuate alike and yes, Hollywood and media (social media especially, nowadays) is a large part of it.

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Před 3 lety +6

      @@Shaylanswanson oh. =/ I mean... if its implicit than why dont ppl care about how these same tropes hurt men possibly more than women. Male stereotypes are actually explicitly taught to men, not implicitly absorbed like it is for women

  • @spy393
    @spy393 Před 3 lety +1131

    Its really fascinating that Marilyn Monroe fits in almost every trope

    • @Matt-kr9bo
      @Matt-kr9bo Před 3 lety +204

      There are a lot of reasons why she’s still a household name. Part of it is the fact that she was able to encompass such a huge amount of femininity. Plus, even her dumb blonde characters have some depth. She was a fascinating historical figure

    • @Pink_pr1ncess
      @Pink_pr1ncess Před 3 lety +73

      @@Matt-kr9bo She really did pave the way for female cinema characters lol.

    • @user-pm9pw6cj4c
      @user-pm9pw6cj4c Před 3 lety +10

      @@Matt-kr9bo she is overrated. Ppl only love her cuz she was sexy

    • @Pink_pr1ncess
      @Pink_pr1ncess Před 3 lety +91

      @@user-pm9pw6cj4c No, she was good person. And very intelligent too despite her characters

    • @user-pm9pw6cj4c
      @user-pm9pw6cj4c Před 3 lety +7

      @@Pink_pr1ncess exactly how was she smart? I keep hearing she was smart but how? I know she dated philosophers and did charity but what else makes her smart?

  • @dorcaswg5726
    @dorcaswg5726 Před 3 lety +3948

    I love how the concept of the bimbo is being redefined because one cultural stereotype that I hate is that women cannot possess both hyperfemininity and intelligence. Like seriously I as a woman can be smart , be articulate , have deep interests , and overall be intelligent while also truly liking hyper feminine things. I also love fashion , makeup , heels , investing in my looks and looking good overall shit even sexy. I also value education and intelligence and I shouldn’t be boxed into a stereotype to do that. I will make a speech about law in my class while rocking a great face beat and killer heel no issue. Women should be free to be both intelligent and overtly and hyperfeminine unapologetically regardless if they decide to fit into the bimbo mold or not.

    • @alessandrap4733
      @alessandrap4733 Před 3 lety +92

      Let's not stay and justify ourselves for a caricature created by man for man.

    • @cristinarivera5707
      @cristinarivera5707 Před 3 lety +132

      Girl yes! Say it again! I’m super girly and a lot of men seem surprised by my intelligence. Sometimes they’re even threatened by it 🙄

    • @wickedwonderland9831
      @wickedwonderland9831 Před 3 lety +56

      It took me a while to learn this and I'm so glad I did. Amber Scholl here on CZcams for example seems like your typical bimbo at first glance but her confidence and go getter attitude have inspired me a lot. It feels like she is an entirely species of woman than I am, but I know now that she is just living her best life and we should all aspire to be like her. She is also rather obviously a clever business woman. The more I learn about other people and especially other women the more I learn to appreciate different qualities in people. It's also eye opening how much of our opinions as women about ourselves and others is just internalized misogyny. Let's all just be however we want to be and lift each other up!

    • @samanthanorton4538
      @samanthanorton4538 Před 3 lety +32

      Right! All three of the girls on The Girls Next Door had college degrees. One of them even took their final test for their Masters degree the same day as her Playboy photo shoot.

    • @madeofcastiron
      @madeofcastiron Před 3 lety +35

      this why i really love elle woods from legally blonde. she's unapologetically girly, but that didn't stop her from being a harvard law valedictorian

  • @konraddygudaj257
    @konraddygudaj257 Před 3 lety +1586

    "A lot of girls think they have to choose between being the smart geeky type or the beautiful bimbo."
    Danica McKellar

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 3 lety +120

      I agree, why choose between looks and books when you can easily have BOTH?! 📚 💄

    • @konraddygudaj257
      @konraddygudaj257 Před 3 lety +11

      @@trinaq I don't know

    • @dorcaswg5726
      @dorcaswg5726 Před 3 lety +24

      I’ll be both thank You

    • @calisha1889
      @calisha1889 Před 3 lety +16

      Yess danica mckellar, love winnie cooper and im so glad she didnt let her image hold her back from doing what she wanted to (basically becoming a mathematician)

    • @shrootea386
      @shrootea386 Před 3 lety +22

      I think it's more about reducing women to one dimensional caricatures based on how they look.

  • @nikebauschaum4714
    @nikebauschaum4714 Před 3 lety +919

    To quote an iconic candidate on Germany's Next Top Model:
    "Just because you're pretty doesn't mean you have to be dumb - you can also be both"

    • @yoru5190
      @yoru5190 Před 3 lety +9

      Ehre

    • @voysix3667
      @voysix3667 Před 3 lety +5

      Also wer das guckt ist eh komisch

    • @lenastorm6280
      @lenastorm6280 Před 3 lety +11

      Wer hat das gesagt? Und in welcher Staffel?

    • @Chika-lw7ke
      @Chika-lw7ke Před 3 lety +3

      Ich würde auch gerne wissen in welcher Staffel das gesagt worden ist.

    • @xEEEa7iu231
      @xEEEa7iu231 Před 3 lety +8

      lost a few braincells but good for her, good for her

  • @malon-
    @malon- Před 3 lety +1765

    I would looove to see the 'male best friend' trope in romantic comedies

    • @ninabanana8706
      @ninabanana8706 Před 3 lety +36

      They've made a video about the nice guy, maybe the male best friend kind is part pf it

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 3 lety +64

      Yes, please. He's usually the "Dogged Nice Guy" who is persistently friendly to his best friend in the hopes that she'll eventually reciporate his feelings. However, if she only likes him as a friend, then he may turn aggressive and entitled.

    • @AllieOk
      @AllieOk Před 3 lety +17

      @@trinaq That's part of the Nice Guy trope though

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 Před 3 lety +6

      @@ninabanana8706 Except nice guys don't get the girl. "Male best friends" can often do.

    • @samd4800
      @samd4800 Před 3 lety +9

      Yes! This is definitely a different type than the Nice Guy though there are often overlaps. I think the best friend from The Kissing Booth would be a great example of this!!!!

  • @juliramoos
    @juliramoos Před 3 lety +854

    Being against pornograph has nothing to do with being against attractive women. It's about defending these women: the actresses who work in porn industry suffer a lot of abuse and have a really short life expectancy

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext Před 3 lety +188

      What's worse is that a lot of them are in the industry because they don't have money for basic necessities. What they need is safer employment options. While the porn industry is dangerous, for a lot of poor women, it's the only way they can survive.

    • @juicyparsons
      @juicyparsons Před 3 lety +119

      sure, but too many women outside of that industry have a patronizing way of "defending" these women by speaking FOR them. so before we as onlookers deem something to be "unsafe" we should hush and listen and ask questions and let sex workers speak for themselves. a lot of actually harmful legislation came from good intentions to defend sex workers

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins Před 3 lety +6

      @@GenerationNextNextNext : any woman who need the porn industry to survive we're talking a Third World situation. Otherwise, it's not hard to choose to work somewhere else than the sex industry. And this is from someone who had no problem with the sex industry existing (though I think it should be heavily regulated).

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins Před 3 lety +1

      @Colette de la Creme : you could've rented a small bedroom in a shared place, like what young broke guys do.

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins Před 3 lety

      @@juicyparsons : you don't have a married name that starts with "A," by chance, do you?

  • @ronikatz7129
    @ronikatz7129 Před 3 lety +593

    It really bugs me that female stereotypes always fall under 2 categories: 1- the hot pretty girl- and she is either a terrible person or plain stupid. Or 2- the "different" girl- (and in some movies she turns out to be beautiful without her glasses) who is brainy, nerdy ,unpopular ,weird- and usually the protagonist. It's so sad that society deems girls to be either pretty or clever. And then people are wondering how can there be so many "I'm not like other girls"
    +I'm not a native English speaker, please correct me if I have any grammar/spelling mistakes

    • @ryanj5993
      @ryanj5993 Před 3 lety +9

      This entire youtube channel is basically devoted to female character tropes, but yeah, if you ignore the other 10,000, there's only 2.

    • @ronikatz7129
      @ronikatz7129 Před 3 lety +25

      I wasn't taking about tropes, I'm talking about categories, if you look at a lot of tropes they still fall under those 2 categories. EG- hot girl: the mean girl, the dumb blond, the bimbo, the bombshell, the gold digger, the femme fatale, the girly girl...
      The "different" girl- the weird girl, the smart girl, the Tomboy, the tough girl, the strong female character, the funny girl....

    • @ryanj5993
      @ryanj5993 Před 3 lety

      @@ronikatz7129 If you're gonna be that vague about it, male characters fall into the same categories...

    • @ronikatz7129
      @ronikatz7129 Před 3 lety +9

      @@ryanj5993 I really don't understand how this is vague?...

    • @ryanj5993
      @ryanj5993 Před 3 lety

      @@ronikatz7129 Your categories fit literally every movie character.

  • @AlwaysTiredish
    @AlwaysTiredish Před 3 lety +560

    I’ll be so happy once we’ve moved past the idea that traditionally feminine is automatically considered lesser, regardless of any other qualities.

    • @jennerick92jm
      @jennerick92jm Před 3 lety +4

      Its worse for men( your're not man enough ect.)

    • @literaIIyshy
      @literaIIyshy Před 3 lety +50

      @@jennerick92jm uh is only "worse" because it's related to them being "girly". As if being a girl is lesser in their eyes.

    • @izzy561
      @izzy561 Před 3 lety +47

      Toxic masculinity thrives on hating femininity. Whether the femininity is from men or women.

    • @jennerick92jm
      @jennerick92jm Před 3 lety +1

      @@literaIIyshy not necceraly look at guys that are forever a bachelor that don't settledown with woman they are considered lesser aswell

    • @PinkRedBrisk
      @PinkRedBrisk Před 3 lety +15

      @@jennerick92jm I kinda disagree, for the most part it's acceptable for men to never get married and to live that bachelor lifestyle. Not saying that no man wouldn't be shame but not enough where I feel that this is accurate. Look at the James Bond character forever a romantize bachelor. Now if they were asexual bachelor's then that's different because men do shame other men who don't have a lot of sex.

  • @themillionairess775
    @themillionairess775 Před 3 lety +90

    "I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb... and I also know that I'm not blonde."
    Dolly Parton

  • @raven3067
    @raven3067 Před 3 lety +735

    *The Obsessed Fan Trope.*

    • @ashleightompkins3200
      @ashleightompkins3200 Před 3 lety +40

      This is a huge problem in the anime community and it makes us all look awful

    • @saintoctober28
      @saintoctober28 Před 3 lety +14

      Omggg like that girl from Play misty for me and Misery

    • @ashleightompkins3200
      @ashleightompkins3200 Před 3 lety +10

      @@saintoctober28 I don't know about the first one but the second is Annie Wilkes and she is the quintessential example

    • @lkf8799
      @lkf8799 Před 3 lety +2

      My favorite comedic version is in Blades of Glory.

    • @literaIIyshy
      @literaIIyshy Před 3 lety +2

      If they do this I hope they mention Supernatural ksksk

  • @aestheticcat8976
    @aestheticcat8976 Před 3 lety +1479

    I swear, there's an entire community and they even exist on Tik Tok. They seem like genuinely nice people plus although they act air headed, a lot of them are very educated. 🤣

    • @picturethis4903
      @picturethis4903 Před 3 lety +107

      ye like Chrissy Chlapeka

    • @mermaidmoon2254
      @mermaidmoon2254 Před 3 lety +91

      I can assure you just because someone is educated, doesn't mean they are actually smart. I've met plenty of stupid people at university. They usually learn things by heart.

    • @aestheticcat8976
      @aestheticcat8976 Před 3 lety +166

      @@mermaidmoon2254 Lets not go bringing others down now.

    • @mermaidmoon2254
      @mermaidmoon2254 Před 3 lety +30

      @@aestheticcat8976 I'm not. Being honest and being mean are two different things.

    • @razzdazzjazz92
      @razzdazzjazz92 Před 3 lety +44

      @@mermaidmoon2254 and they have massive superiority complexes about their intelligence and status.

  • @user-bw5zi1tc3x
    @user-bw5zi1tc3x Před 3 lety +370

    I grew up watching himym and I thought it was what u called bondes as a kid, so I wrote "happy birthday bimbo" in my sister's birthday and I got grounded lmao I cringe remembering this because my sister was 15 and I was 8
    Truly a repressed childhood memory that my family feel the need to constantly bring up smh

  • @lilil9752
    @lilil9752 Před 3 lety +609

    Notice how 90% are portrayed as blonde.I really dislike that on shows that shows the bimbos bereated by another women in order to appeal to internalized misoginy (in the sense that they say "we are superior women, a completely diferent species" )instead of making audience feel angry for people taking advantage of them

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Před 3 lety +37

      I wouldnt say 90 per cent are blonde at all, but i would say 90 per cent are white.

    • @thepincushion1835
      @thepincushion1835 Před 3 lety +22

      Exactly the whole bimbo thing just teaches you that if your blonde skinny white, and have big cans you have an easy enough life to not care. It’s an evil trope that’s rebranding itself as “inclusive” because a few people
      Of color have said they are bimbos.

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Před 3 lety +2

      @@williamspears1627 i see. Yea that mess up alot

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Před 3 lety +19

      @@thepincushion1835 uhhh, wrong? The bimbo trope has, in quite few movies actually, shown that being pretty and stupid doesnt yield an easier life (neither does being blonde btw). Movies like house bunny and mean girls clearly showed this. I think its sexist to say that bimbos are toxic even if the girl is kindhearted while himbos are great even if the dude cant perform even the most basic of tasks, this is essentially what the take is saying.

    • @LemonCoutureBunny
      @LemonCoutureBunny Před 3 lety +11

      @@williamspears1627 This video is not about the "dumb blonde trope". The Take clearly laid out the film history of the bimbo trope, which did originate with BLONDES in the 1950's. Even more recently, bimbos in 90's-2000's movies were nearly always portrayed as blonde. In the middle of the video, timestamp 6:45-7:24, The Take even ADDRESSES the crossover with the dumb blonde trope, mean girl trope, AND girly girl tropes, but FURTHER clarifies that what sets the bimbo trope apart is the particular focus on her sexuality. I'm confused on how you missed so many context clues/actual explanations.... they were made all throughout the vidoe. You did watch it, right?

  • @cocomocha
    @cocomocha Před 3 lety +496

    As a “Bimbo” of color I unapologetically love makeup,clothes,shoes,shopping,and accessories however there is more to me than that.I’m still a human being.Also I’m still a Paris Hilton,Marilyn Monroe,And Anna Nicole Smith fan lol...

    • @momobunny1234
      @momobunny1234 Před 3 lety +49

      Paris Hilton and Marilyn Monroe are much deeper people than people think. Paris is actually very smart and kind, and is a genuinely interesting person. And Marilyn is a special case of a woman who had a much darker life than most people care to know, with very real struggles and feelings. She was very smart, and talented, but got treated like nothing but a pretty face because that's how male directors purposefully cast her off. There's a reason we use the word "typecasting", and she was a victim of that to an extreme. To this day, people are shocked to find out that she wasn't just a "pretty idiot", and that's just sad to me. I will always love Marilyn more than almost any other actress, and I relate to the struggles that she suffered through that she was made to be afraid to talk about. The poor woman suffered through severe depression and anxiety, the loss of many unborn children, parental neglect, abusive relationships, and societal mistreatment, and yet nobody wanted to hear it because she was told it would "ruin her image". Poor Marilyn. She wasn't even allowed to be a person of her own in the end because people just wanted to see her as a pretty, perfect blonde.

    • @cocomocha
      @cocomocha Před 3 lety +22

      Glass Head I understand Marilyns pain so much I feel like my whole life I’ve been treated like a sexual object.

    • @s.l.3281
      @s.l.3281 Před 3 lety +9

      I do not want to squash a fellow woman, but have you ever stepped back and examined your place in the world? As per your description of your interests, to the outside world, you're viewed as inwardly focused and catering to the male gaze. Does that ever cross your mind?
      As a feminist, I have to admit that, even though I LOVE The Take video essays, they've recently taken on theses about feminism that are actually really contradictory to feminism.
      In truth, I know it's desirable and easiest to adopt the belief that "Because I'm a woman, everything I do is feminist", but it's not true. Feminism is about gender equality, and how can women truly be equal when we mold every aspect of our appearance to appease men? And you can say "I wear make-up and shave my armpits for ME", but I've been there, done that. Went a whole summer without shaving my armpits and I could tell that both men and women were grossed out, which made me feel bad, so I went back to shaving them. With a little examination, it's kind of unsettling how society is the true decider of our appearance, and not ourselves.
      Anyway, that's just my take. "When everything is feminist, nothing is."

    • @thebigskub4319
      @thebigskub4319 Před 3 lety +20

      ur amazing queen but pls no more paris hilton.. shes racist and has said the hard r multiple times!!! i understand giving credit where its due tho since she was one of the more popular 'bimbos' of our time

    • @witchplease9695
      @witchplease9695 Před 3 lety +7

      @fire work Shaving isn’t a part of hygiene, it’s a personal choice that has been forced as as standard by men who prefer hairless child like bodies on women but are hairy monsters themselves. Body hair is natural and shaving is as unnecessary and cosmetic as wearing makeup. It’s a choice.

  • @kaylash.4603
    @kaylash.4603 Před 3 lety +539

    What scares me in this trope is the fact that those women have got personality of a child. Or a person with mental development problems. So basically they're portrayed as children or ill people, but only sexy.

    • @makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268
      @makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 Před 3 lety +7

      A lot of you ladies are seeing it from a female perspective, most men do not care that much about intelligence and yes men like women who are playful and innocent its feminine. Perhaps some men, intelligence is 3 or 4th on their list, but most men are visual and its looks first.

    • @kaylash.4603
      @kaylash.4603 Před 3 lety +182

      @@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 it's not just about intelligence. A person should not necessarily be clever, but a person should be mentally developed on the level of an adult. Many of Monroe's characters behave and don't know basic things like children. It's impossible for an adult unless they have some problems. Fantasising about women who are basically children, but only in a hot female body, is scary. And condescending - makes even the dumbest guy a genius compared to her.

    • @red_calla_lily
      @red_calla_lily Před 3 lety +118

      @@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 So, men don't want an equal partner, they want children they can f***. And you're genuinely surprised women say men are pigs? You do realize how subhuman you make men sound?

    • @makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268
      @makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 Před 3 lety +3

      @@red_calla_lily Your still not getting it, that is what men are attracted to sexually, your just fighting nature, just like no matter how much men complain, female hypergamy will not go away either.

    • @chickofmusic001
      @chickofmusic001 Před 3 lety +66

      Yes. This is concerning, because people can take advantage of that person...

  • @joshuajonesy6190
    @joshuajonesy6190 Před 3 lety +199

    You gotta do a "Daughter as a Punishment'' Trope video where misogynists are given daughters as a punishment for their past or current ways

    • @basmalasaad3039
      @basmalasaad3039 Před 3 lety +10

      Like what for example? Can you explain this a bit further please

    • @philketlhaetse7558
      @philketlhaetse7558 Před 3 lety +28

      @@basmalasaad3039 The only one that brings to mind is Barney from HIMYM. After the Robin divorce he goes back to his hoeing ways and after a full month of one night stands, he gets number 31 pregnant and has a daughter. The next time we see him at the bar, some dudes are trying out his tactics and he cockblocks them and ask the women what their fathers' would think of them.

    • @joshuajonesy6190
      @joshuajonesy6190 Před 3 lety +29

      @@philketlhaetse7558 Schmidt in New Girl, Sterling Archer in Archer, Tony Stark in MCU, Bojack in Bojack Horseman, Kelso in That's 70 Show, ETC!!

    • @Trollestiatumblur
      @Trollestiatumblur Před 3 lety +58

      I hear that irl a lot. If a man has a daughter that’s punishment for what he’s done to/with women and having a daughter will “teach him a lesson”. It’s disgusting. In movies The teenage daughter almost gets raped most of the time and the dad has to save her, Or kidnapped, or cat called, sexually harassed, etc etc, and only then will he see women as human.... NOT. He only sees his DAUGHTER as human. He raised her and always protected her, she isn’t a woman in his eyes, she’s his daughter.
      Still, it’s gross that a girl/woman has to pay for the sins of her father because he was an ass... that trope is just wrong and creepy for a number of reasons

    • @slllloraxxx
      @slllloraxxx Před 3 lety +18

      Oh wow, I didn't know about that one, although I guess it's in the same spirit of the "rules for dating my daughter" dad.

  • @JoRiver11
    @JoRiver11 Před 3 lety +255

    I grew up resenting "bimbos" because I was quiet and smart and as an insecure teen, it sucked that it was so obvious that my way of being was not as desirable at that age. It gets easier, and the playing field levels out after you leave school but sometimes it is a long haul to overcome chronic challenges from our formative years.
    That is only one example, and everyone is different, but it isn't a stretch to consider that scenarios like the one I mentioned are part of the reason that the "bimbo" is viewed negatively.
    A side note: I think that covid and working from home has made many people who thought that they made themselves up for their own pleasure realise that they actually are much more comfortable/themselves without doing those things. And for others it has confirmed that those things make them happy even if no one else sees them. It would be interesting to collect stories from different people.

    • @HappyKat-wc4ld
      @HappyKat-wc4ld Před 3 lety +9

      Even if no one else sees me, I see me, and I like to see myself with pretty clothes and makeup, so that's what I do

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety +1

      In some cases the pleasure of getting dolled up is to do with the reaction is causes or is perceived to cause, so doing it for yourself would be pointless, like acting without an audience. It doesn't mean the actor takes no pleasure in acting, just the reason for doing is removed without people to watch.

    • @JoRiver11
      @JoRiver11 Před 2 lety +1

      @@_Sakidora_ If an actor takes pleasure in (the act of) acting, then there is a reason for doing it, even without the audience. While other actors might specifically be in it to make other people feel things, or for the positive feedback from the audience.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety

      @@JoRiver11 I can imagine very few actors who would perform only for themselves without one single person to see them perform

    • @myblacklab7
      @myblacklab7 Před 2 lety

      Fantastic side note - I'd be interested in those stories too.

  • @shramanadasdutta3006
    @shramanadasdutta3006 Před 3 lety +389

    You should seriously do a comparison between FRIENDS and How I Met Your Mother. They are basically the same show set in different time periods with different generations as the main characters. That should be interesting.

    • @taraw.2519
      @taraw.2519 Před 3 lety +38

      HIMYM is more interesting/likable in my opinion

    • @amandak.5967
      @amandak.5967 Před 3 lety +37

      Sí! Although I prefer New Girl to them because it shows more of a diversity of characters (Also Jess the main character rocks hyper-femininity :)

    • @rachelarruda-decell7244
      @rachelarruda-decell7244 Před 3 lety +20

      Not really different generations though, both sets of characters were GenX. The Friends and HIMYM characters are only about 10 years apart. But I'll admit it was a surprisingly big jump culturally hitting adulthood in the 90s (as in Friends) vs the 00s (as in HIMYM). I was in high school when Friends started but was right about the same age as the HIMYM characters, and enjoyed both shows.

    • @marthabixler1606
      @marthabixler1606 Před 3 lety +5

      Or how British sitcom coupling is far superior to both.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety

      Nah, Friends is far more important culturally.

  • @sapphic.flower
    @sapphic.flower Před 3 lety +406

    Glad we're empowering women for embracing their sexuality and femininity. Kim K wouldn't be my example personally, not that it isn't cool for her to find success in her sex appeal but a large part of her and her family's credit is because they're culture vultures...

    • @Firegen1
      @Firegen1 Před 3 lety +37

      👆🏾 This.

    • @claireindigo1200
      @claireindigo1200 Před 3 lety +6

      Not really, their success is mainly from their sexuality and business not culture appropriation(which they are obviously guilty of)

    • @paris5056
      @paris5056 Před 3 lety

      this made no cents luv...

    • @sapphic.flower
      @sapphic.flower Před 3 lety +26

      @@paris5056 not being down with white people being praised for appropriating cultures as if they invented box braids or kimonos doesn't make sense to you?

    • @paris5056
      @paris5056 Před 3 lety

      @@sapphic.flower that has nothing to do with being labeled as a bimbo?..

  • @indeeruh
    @indeeruh Před 3 lety +302

    I'm also really interested in the way ideas about body shape/size permeate society's understandings of female intelligence. Putting aside body modification for a moment, women who have naturally smaller breasts are portrayed with grater complexity, while women with curvier figures are often cast as either matronly or hypersexual. Not only do these ideas justify treating larger/curvier women with disrespect, but they also limit smaller women as they work to claim sexual agency and power.
    These understandings are rooted in colonial-era conceptualizations of race and intellect. Women of color have always been imagined as hypersexual and animalistic, and these ideas have been used to justify rape as a tactic of war and conquest. Bottom line: everything is intersectional, and the problematic racial dynamics that underpin this trope have been with us for a long time.

    • @ralitsamincheva2292
      @ralitsamincheva2292 Před 3 lety +23

      Thank you for the interesting and insightful comment❤

    • @p.b.4464
      @p.b.4464 Před 3 lety +18

      Very insightful. I know this bit is probably the most minor part of what you were saying, but I was glad to see Margot Robbie prominently featured in the bombshell video. It's a first world problem, but a lot of women feel really inferior about being less endowed.

    • @GenerationNextNextNext
      @GenerationNextNextNext Před 3 lety +14

      Women with more curves, thicker lips, and more almond shaped glossy eyes are villainized and treated as bimbos just based on appearances alone.

    • @indeeruh
      @indeeruh Před 3 lety +8

      @Colette de la Creme No one is denying that white women also experience sexism related to their body shape...the video highlighted many instances of that. My comment was intended to highlight the ways in which the sexualization of curviness as a trait has been rooted in the conceptualization of women of color (particularly black and brown women). That analysis doesn't discredit your experience, but adds additional context that I felt was missing from the video.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety

      The first part is true but the second is way too simplistic.

  • @izzywoods794
    @izzywoods794 Před 3 lety +51

    Marilyn Monroe’s character in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is my absolute favorite. I think she was this trope done realistically. She knows how she’s perceived and it’s something she does consciously and even explains herself.

  • @biljam972
    @biljam972 Před 3 lety +165

    It's quite different to play "Bimbo" part from time to time in few movies, or in real life, than being considered Bimbo as a person. A lot of women who were considered this trope as their personalities (though they were really not) ended up highly depressed, miserable and died way too young, usually from drugs overdose. One thing is having few roles or having fun in real life playing this trope to enjoy yourself, and the other is being branded as no-use-but-sex, brainless but pretty thing in life, as your main personality. It made those women miserable and it was downright cruel to them. Most famous examples: Marylin Monroe and Anna Nicole Smith, but there were many others too. It's just not real, it doesn't exist, it's just a play. No one is that happy-go-lucky brainless pretty thing and to brand someone as a thing is cruel.

    • @chickofmusic001
      @chickofmusic001 Před 3 lety +7

      I agree 100% people just love to live a easy life and put their rose colored glasses on.

    • @brittybee6615
      @brittybee6615 Před 3 lety +2

      Well said

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety +3

      But making the bimbo something more 'respectable' or even aspirational to some degree might reduce the hate (a mixture of jealousy, lust, snobbery, puritanism and condescension) which led these women to be depressed and feel persecuted, as well as addressing the problem of sexual exploitation in the entertainment industry.

    • @myblacklab7
      @myblacklab7 Před 2 lety

      I dunno - most guys who sleep with a bimbo on any sort of regular basis probably end up falling in love with her, if she's nice.
      Men are weak and simple, face it.
      Women who dressed up as bimbos to do porn or be strippers are a different story, of course - they get judged too harshly, even today.

  • @Nightman221k
    @Nightman221k Před 3 lety +230

    I was literally just thinking about The Take doing this when I was listening to a playlist and P!nk's "Stupid Girls" came on. I'm glad we've progressed past just seeing people as one thing now. I feel like as much as things aren't perfect people are realizing you can be more than just one category of a person now.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 3 lety +4

      I concur! You can be more than one type of person, and don't have to succumb to others' perceptions, as Elle Woods taught me!

    • @picklesthewise
      @picklesthewise Před 3 lety +22

      I agree with that, but I've also heard arguments about the Stupid Girls song that say it's more about not trying to change yourself for a man, thinking for yourself instead of just trying to appeal to what they might want, and I agree with that idea.

    • @calisha1889
      @calisha1889 Před 3 lety +31

      @@picklesthewise thats a good interpretation and I get what she was trying to say but it definitely comes off as anti-bimbo, almost the "not like the other girls" stereotype. I hate that media tried to hammer that message in so hard in the 2000s and 2010s, that girls would eventually put down other girls so harshly for being hyperfeminine, sexy, or liking mainstream culture while upholding homophobia, lowkey racist shit and frat bro culture at the same time lol. I think thats why stuff got so hyper-liberal at one point in the 2010s.

    • @picklesthewise
      @picklesthewise Před 3 lety +7

      @@calisha1889 I wouldn't say it's gotten hyper-liberal at one point - we're in the middle of a period of it right now. As much as it is good that more people are being accepted and loved for who they are, there is also a great deal of people condemning things for being offensive that weren't even intended that way, and the people being offended aren't even the people that the thing was supposedly targeting. You see a lot more of it being said online than you do in real life, which I think adds to it.
      I'm not talking about the Stupid Girls song, because I think that it's in a grey area and up for debate. I don't believe in being against all women who fall into stereotypes, but there should definitely be more factors to a woman's self esteem than her appearance, and teaching girls that, even if it's in a kind of edgy way, is still valid if they get the point.

    • @Nightman221k
      @Nightman221k Před 3 lety +14

      @@picklesthewise ​ That song just rubbed me the wrong way, even though I like a lot of P!nk's other songs. The part in the music video where she makes fun of other celebrity women like for being ditzy felt petty and the part where she pretends she's a "stupid girl" with bulimia, those parts stood out as being against people who annoy her, more that their "stupid" actions. Even as a preteen I thought that bulimia part was wrong, and I get joking about bulimia in something like a comedy movie or parody, but it seems wrong to inject it in a music video about young girls' (in a song targeted TO young girls) with behavior that's stupid is wrong cause eating disorders are a mental disorder and body dysmorphia doesn't only affect the "stupid girls." Just calling it stupid isn't helping know how to deal with dysmorphia. I would add that P!nk's song "Perfect" is a lot better with regards to acceptance.
      Personally the song just comes off as a huge "I'm Not Like Other Girls" anthem and it's hard enough for a teen (especially a girl teen) to figure out how to balance gender expression and know who and what they want to be when everyone is judging and telling you what's right and wrong and being so image focused. I think that's what I like about the general consensus today where you don't see people not pigeonholing others to be just one thing. You can be like both feminine or masculine hobbies or neither or any combination of interests.

  • @mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr
    @mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr Před 3 lety +147

    I played the dumb blonde when I was in my teens. When Paris Hilton came along, I recognized fully what her play was, and appreciated her for being so saavy while some of my friends were hating on her. I had grown past my best bimbo years, by then, but I recognized just how much fun a "blonde bimbo" could have, and could bring to others. As a "bimbo," my mantra was "wherever I am is THE place to be, bc I bring the party with ME." I successfully pulled this off despite being in all A.P. courses and the gifted program.
    I WISH I'd had half Paris' saavy, though. She created a brand and made good money based on the same personality I foolishly squandered on boys and good times.

    • @kittyelgato4246
      @kittyelgato4246 Před 3 lety +8

      Well, she didn't start from nothing tho... She was and is a heiress

    • @mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr
      @mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr Před 3 lety +6

      @@kittyelgato4246 there are heiresses and there are heiresses. From what I understood, she was pretty far down the line, but she played her heiress-ness up for all it was worth, as well.

    • @kittyelgato4246
      @kittyelgato4246 Před 3 lety +11

      @@mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr Yes she was down in the line. She hasn't lied about that. But let's not underestimate the perks of being near the top - connections, influence, power, family guiding you towards your end so you don't make mistakes. She had that initial kick that we lack. This does not demerit the fact that she took the Hilton network to the next level, I just meant that she had the ultimate kickstarter

    • @LemonCoutureBunny
      @LemonCoutureBunny Před 3 lety +15

      You know what? I don't think you squandered that time. Even if your experience was limited to making memories and boys, that's okay! Making money/a brand should not be the marker we use to gauge personal success. It sounds like you were able to successfully build confidence, self security, excel in education, and just have a great time at an age where those things typically are out of reach for most people. In my book, that is pretty extraordinary and I'm proud of you!

    • @DebsFan101
      @DebsFan101 Před 2 lety +3

      Boys and good times sound pretty awesome to me. 😉
      But I get your point.

  • @Spicie95
    @Spicie95 Před 3 lety +46

    This video reminded me of a conversation I had with my friend. She was upset about the look of Netflix's Winx Saga because she is a big fan of the cartoon and it looked so different. Yet, the biggest annoyance was the fact that it appeared to remove itself from the hyper-femininity of the cartoon, and replaced it with a more masculine edginess (neither of us watched the new series, but I hope others enjoyed it). I almost jumped out of seat in feminist agreement, as I have never liked the rejection of the girly-girl traits, nor the attempts at pushing women to adopt masculine traits in order to fit into male dominated aspects in the world.

  • @sasusakulove4ever
    @sasusakulove4ever Před 3 lety +87

    Would The Nanny’s Fran Fine apply to this trope? I always thought she was a great example of a sexy not too smart woman who is constantly put down as a bimbo, but proves she has a big heart and who uses her positive attitude and kindness to help people.

    • @p.b.4464
      @p.b.4464 Před 3 lety +32

      Perhaps its the shallow reaction to her dark hair, but Fran always stuck me as clearly having street smarts. Haven't seen the show in years, but I saw her as somewhat of a middle class or working class heroine who held her own around the Sheffields.

    • @cheri31
      @cheri31 Před 3 lety +17

      I might be wrong, but she might be in the "bombshell" category like Mae West - a sexualized woman who is renowned for her big heart but also quick wit. They're not "smart" in the academic sense, but they have a specific form of intellect that leaves men dumbstruck.

    • @Usuaria86
      @Usuaria86 Před 3 lety +6

      @@cheri31 I agree, she is uneducated but very smart. She sometimes gets into trouble because she's too determined or she says clearly what she thinks, and she always finds a way out of them. She is by no means dumb.

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 Před 3 lety +64

    Reminds me of Lindsey Ellis’s take on Megan Fox on Transformers- the text gave her characterization and an arc- the _camera_ made her a shallow sex object

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Před 3 lety +218

    An alternative version of "The Bimbo" is one who pretends to be dumb in order to preserve their popularity, because it's "uncool to be smart." Examples include Cordelia Chase or Lydia Martin.

    • @fatmaslh6306
      @fatmaslh6306 Před 3 lety +47

      Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie's whole fake persona in their reality shows

    • @Love25648
      @Love25648 Před 3 lety +4

      @@fatmaslh6306 good example

    • @lyogazaki984
      @lyogazaki984 Před 3 lety +10

      Mona also in Pretty Little Liars

    • @JoRiver11
      @JoRiver11 Před 3 lety +9

      So, wouldn't that be the bimbos judging other women for being smart or "less fun"? I doubt that their motivations are quite as innocent as the way that they're presented here.

    • @JustMe-mp6vu
      @JustMe-mp6vu Před 3 lety +5

      Yess!! Also Dylan Schoenfield in Geek Charmimg! 🤩😅💞🎀

  • @raven3067
    @raven3067 Před 3 lety +236

    *The Spoiled Brat Trope.*

    • @s.sumbrella7616
      @s.sumbrella7616 Před 3 lety +5

      Yes

    • @s.sumbrella7616
      @s.sumbrella7616 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes

    • @cocoajames5
      @cocoajames5 Před 3 lety +27

      •really rich
      •dad is usually a lawyer/ceo/school principal and mom is a housewife
      •dumb but gets her way cuz of ✨daddy✨
      •has a Pomeranian or chihuahua
      •connected to royalty somehow
      •has tons of celeb friends
      •is a bully

    • @kiriki4558
      @kiriki4558 Před 3 lety +24

      Charlotte of The Princess and the Frog Is a great deconstruction of the trope. She Is spoiled by her dad, but she Is so kind and funny. And not racist , wich Is important considering the era in wich the film takes place.

    • @TabbyeLynne
      @TabbyeLynne Před 3 lety +2

      Usually an only child

  • @justrenee2640
    @justrenee2640 Před 3 lety +117

    I’m a fellow self professed bimbo and a examples for baby POC bimbos: Hillary from Fresh Prince of Belair, & Stacey Dash from Clueless

    • @avanikarir1942
      @avanikarir1942 Před 3 lety +14

      thank you. I feel like the early version of this trope really left out poc

    • @justrenee2640
      @justrenee2640 Před 3 lety +7

      @@avanikarir1942 your welcome💖🎀

    • @pinkysaints2309
      @pinkysaints2309 Před 3 lety +20

      London Tipton is a good example too

    • @feminine8766
      @feminine8766 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes I want to see. More bimbos of color in too

    • @silverroxen2954
      @silverroxen2954 Před 3 lety

      Yes I would love to see this!

  • @MsDaydream3r
    @MsDaydream3r Před 3 lety +131

    *video suggestion:* The Hillbilly Trope

    • @Hmletmetry
      @Hmletmetry Před 3 lety

      Can you explain a bit what it is please ?

    • @MsDaydream3r
      @MsDaydream3r Před 3 lety +1

      @@Hmletmetry Think of The Beverly Hillbillies or the movie Deliverance or Larry the Cable Guy.

  • @MsDaydream3r
    @MsDaydream3r Před 3 lety +65

    I wouldn't call myself a girly girl, (more of a geek girl/punk girl) but I *do* get annoyed when my older brother thinks I wear makeup to attract boys, I DON'T. I wear it because I like to feel pretty and take pride in my appearance. Why do men assume that any girl not dressed like a slob is doing it for the male gaze? 😤

    • @carlathedestructor2454
      @carlathedestructor2454 Před 3 lety +3

      Why are you putting down women who don't enjoy dressing up and wearing make up by calling them slobs? Make up is itchy and some of us live in tshirts and sneakers because it feels good to us.

    • @MsDaydream3r
      @MsDaydream3r Před 3 lety +15

      @@carlathedestructor2454 That's not what I meant by "slob." I wear t-shirts and sneakers all the time. By slob, I meant clothes like a raggedy sweatshirt and dirty sweatpants.

    • @anidleteen
      @anidleteen Před 3 lety +8

      Literally
      I wear makeup with eyelinered hearts on my eyes and everyone was like "who are you looking nice for?" Like, myself? I literally can't see anyone? Why would I do it for anyone else?

    • @natashadsilva1304
      @natashadsilva1304 Před 3 lety +4

      Because deep down inside, everything that men do for their appearance is for the approval of women.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před 3 lety

      @@MsDaydream3r I wonder what your brother thinks of kpop and alt boys who wear makeup

  • @christinlucia1469
    @christinlucia1469 Před 3 lety +70

    Could you do a video on how mental illness is portrayed and vilified (especially in the horror genre)? Many movies and TV show’s portrayals are dangerous because of their inaccuracies. Many projects also don’t seem to have any consultants to help get the portrayal right, not to mention the fact that the actors/actresses cast do not have any experience with and/or are not diagnosed with the disorder themselves (ex: Sia’s new movie is a bout a girl with autism but the actress playing her does not have autism).
    I love all of your videos! They are wonderfully made and bring up great points! Thanks!

    • @p.b.4464
      @p.b.4464 Před 3 lety +1

      Just the other night I was watching some movie from the late 90s or early 2000s, and the big reveal/twist was a murderer with multiple personalities. I hope that can't be considered a spoiler!

    • @inferiorinferno8859
      @inferiorinferno8859 Před 3 lety +2

      As someone with Autism, I'd wish you wouldn't speak for people with ASD. A lot of us struggle with the stress of even having a job because most employers don't know how to deal with someone with ASD like when having miscommunications due to our poor social skills, neither do they create an enviroment suitable to us or allow us to create such an enviroment. Try dealing with fame on top of that! I applaud every actor with ASD like the guy from Black Balloon, but I'm aware it's unattainable for most people so I'm perfectly okay with normal people playing an Autistic character. Do you even have ASD, because most of the people I've seen complaining about this yet, are people without ASD and are speaking out of ignorance about the struggles we have with the workforce.

    • @noheterotho179
      @noheterotho179 Před 3 lety +1

      @@inferiorinferno8859 hi, could you rephrase what you mean? The lack of punctuation is killing me.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety

      @@noheterotho179 Their punctuation is fine. I'd try working on your comprehension skills.

  • @v444_4
    @v444_4 Před 3 lety +84

    I've been following Bimbo Tik Tok for a while and the fact that its being featured on The Take is amazing! Fauxrich and all the people in this movement are killing it! I've always feared being bubbly and not taking myself seriously made people look down on me, bimbos make me feel so confident to just be myself, enjoy the things I like, and do it all for my own happiness! 💗💕🎀💘✨

  • @bef9612
    @bef9612 Před 3 lety +38

    I'm an intelligent woman, but I still want to be like Mae West in my 40's and 50s. There is nothing wrong with being perky and having a personality, and being hyper feminine from time to time.

  • @KitkatKate333
    @KitkatKate333 Před 3 lety +69

    This seems to overlap a lot with the Dumb Blonde trope.. I'd be interested to see more videos discussing tropes centered around people of colour. I've seen a lot of requests for these before- the exotic asian, the shamanic Native American, etc.

  • @highland_persuasion
    @highland_persuasion Před 3 lety +56

    Next up - the UPTIGHT CONSERVATIVE TROPE.

    • @Firegen1
      @Firegen1 Před 3 lety +8

      The pearl clutcher or the radical evangelist?

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety

      They're certainly going to find anything positive in anyone remotely conservative minded.

  • @fernandogarza4050
    @fernandogarza4050 Před 3 lety +54

    I am from México and we have a type of bread that we call bimbo jajaja

  • @jello4835
    @jello4835 Před 3 lety +36

    As glad I am that women are taking away the power of the word by reclaiming it, I have a hard time looking at this one and saying it's a reclaimed slur that has a lot of good qualities when the word is so inherently negative. Other reclaimed slurs like queer etc were generally just a derogatory word for a minority that can be reclaimed as a more positive label for the minority by saying "Yes I am queer, because I am gay and I refuse to let a word that means 'gay' be derogatory." But bimbo doesn't just refer to women, or to hot women, it specifically calls the women dumb, useless objects, so owning the label doesn't equate to "yes I am a bimbo, because I'm a hot woman and proud of it." Instead I think it sounds more like "I am a brainless object and proud of it." More power to women who are able to use this image to their advantage, and I understand that words change meaning over time, but I don't think this word is at a place right now where it can be reclaimed.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety +1

      I can't see a lot of difference between calling someone gay a queer, which originally meant not normal and calling a hyperfeminine woman a bimbo, which means brainless. In both cases it is meant to hurt and diminish the target of bullying.
      Adopting a bully's insults as a positive label works in both cases. In the case of a 'queer' person it declares that to be outside the sexual majority is fine and in the case of the 'bimbo' it says that to be hyperfeminine is also fine, as is not being an intellectual or academic.

  • @zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784

    The bimbos tend to be my favourite characters though

  • @nancyomalley9959
    @nancyomalley9959 Před 3 lety +59

    There is actually a brand of white bread called 'Bimbo" -A very cheap brand!

    • @jennerick92jm
      @jennerick92jm Před 3 lety +3

      In Costa Rica its quite expensive

    • @literaIIyshy
      @literaIIyshy Před 3 lety +6

      @@jennerick92jm same here in república dominicana! It's considered rich people bread.
      We mostly eat pan de agua anyway which is way more tasty, filling and affordable

    • @AlE-mr8ek
      @AlE-mr8ek Před 3 lety +5

      In mexico it’s really cheap

    • @jennerick92jm
      @jennerick92jm Před 3 lety

      @@AlE-mr8ek over there the overall living cost maybe lower than Costa Rica havent been there yet

    • @nancyomalley9959
      @nancyomalley9959 Před 3 lety +2

      @@literaIIyshy Pan De Agua? That translates to bread of water. Makes me think of old shows or movies where they joke that the only food you get in prison is bread and water

  • @christinlucia1469
    @christinlucia1469 Před 3 lety +84

    I would love if you guys did a video on Harley Quinn and other lovable villains. While Harley is definitely a villain she’s a beloved character in the DC universe. She funny, and smart but very dangerous and sick. It’s so interesting how many characters that are villains but are loved and even rooted for by fans.

  • @-Radical.Ed-
    @-Radical.Ed- Před 3 lety +40

    All video was nice except for the revindication of Kim Kardashian, which to me, is a harmful figure.
    She is literally a person that is famous just for exposing her lifestyle and excesses (not gonna shame her for a sex tape) but she is not the kind of businesswoman I admire, she is a mediatic, and that's it. I think having her as an example of a successful individual is damaging in the popular culture. There are no males that are represented her manner. Even though, yes, she has money and made an empire it is settled upon sexism. Is that really what we want as women or business people?
    Also, isn't it an oxymoron to talk about the bimbo "rejecting capitalism with their no marketable skills" while selling an image of hyper-consumerism?

    • @lawofattractionsandmirrors
      @lawofattractionsandmirrors Před 3 lety +6

      Her and her family are also largely responsible for legions of young girls, teens, and women hating and massively altering their bodies. They get plastic surgery, use filters, angles, photos, photoshop, shapewear, lighting, and makeup to achieve their looks and claim to be all natural. It is also a highly sexualized appearance that has been put on a pedestal for impressionable people. We've stopped glorifying beauty as being anything than hypersexualized

  • @BirdOnATypwriter
    @BirdOnATypwriter Před 3 lety +48

    I know that's a bit off topic, but it's kind off weird that stereotypicaley, every positive trade needs to come with some sort of price, guys and girls who are conventionally attractive, are either dump or mean and everyone who is intelligent is either ugly (or at least Hollywood ugly) and/or unpopular.

    • @basedtwink7203
      @basedtwink7203 Před 3 lety +1

      Dnd ways of seeing the world?

    • @LemonCoutureBunny
      @LemonCoutureBunny Před 3 lety +1

      I think this is more of an attempt to flesh out characters, so they don't end up with a Mary Sue (trope about the perfect woman with no conceivable flaws). It's more realistic and dynamic to add different facets to a character, even if it is a "price". But if you want an example of positive trait with another positive trait, might I suggest the himbo (conventionally attractive guy who is comedically dumb, but incredibly kind, emphathetic, and secure in himself)? Although they do have a "negative" trait of being dumb, in the context of the himbo trope, this is actually a weirdly positive thing! This dumbness only emphasizes how wholesome the himbo is, and it also differentiates the man from the other men around him who are aggressive, rude, and have something to prove to everyone he meets.

  • @luna-ichigo6539
    @luna-ichigo6539 Před 3 lety +114

    In germany the word 'Bimbo' is a slur word for black men. It is so weird to see the english term lol

    • @timothyo718
      @timothyo718 Před 3 lety +8

      Oh I studied abroad in Germany and remember some eyebrows raised when someone said Bimbo. Is it seen as a racist slur?

    • @soffel0477
      @soffel0477 Před 3 lety +12

      I am also from Germany and I associate with the term bimbo someone who would do everything for someone else without asking questions.

    • @soffel0477
      @soffel0477 Před 3 lety +17

      Okay, I googled bimbo and the history in Germany and it is true that this word was used as a racist slur. But nowadays it is more known for the English definition I believe

    • @chlooeydeschanel5159
      @chlooeydeschanel5159 Před 3 lety +9

      Wow you learn something new everyday

    • @diana5281
      @diana5281 Před 3 lety +4

      I have never heard of this and I’m from Germany

  • @Flower-Haven
    @Flower-Haven Před 3 lety +35

    Thank you for always knowing exactly what we need

  • @JohnReviews
    @JohnReviews Před 3 lety +40

    Here's a trope idea: the “Kyle” trope. Examples: Jean Ralphio from Parks & Rec and perhaps by extension Tom, Kyler from Cobra Kai, Robbie from Gravity Falls, Stiffler from American Pie. Also, I might suggest looking up Trevor Wallace’s videos about Kyles.

  • @afz5355
    @afz5355 Před 3 lety +16

    I cannot believe people actually think that women who care about their appearance cannot be smart or articulate-

    • @christinapaterno5585
      @christinapaterno5585 Před 2 lety +1

      Most people don’t think that. College is full of attractive and intelligent women, as are workplaces. Caring about your appearance and being healthy is usually associated with being smarter with your shit together.

  • @ohnoitsthenoooo
    @ohnoitsthenoooo Před 3 lety +7

    The idea that 'bimbo' is anything other than a degrading and sexist insult towards women (as it comes from a literal *porn category*) is just ridiculous. Come on, ladies. We can do better than this. Instead of "reclaiming" words that have been used to belittle us, reclaim your dignity as a human being deserving of respect.
    How in the world did feminism go from "women aren't objects" to "objectifying yourself and doing exactly what gross men want you to do is empowering actually" in less than a decade?
    I hate it here.

    • @ohnoitsthenoooo
      @ohnoitsthenoooo Před 3 lety +2

      @Mike Kane I don't care Micheal. The objectification of women and girls only benefits creepy men. You can use as many big words as you want but your argument won't be any less hollow.
      Men don't care if the woman is objectifying herself or being objectified by someone else. All they are are objects to get off to and disrespect. Bimbo is a misogynist term. Conforming perfectly to pornified beauty standards is only hurting women in the long run and helping capitalism.

  • @gen_li7725
    @gen_li7725 Před 3 lety +30

    I love how this channel constantly takes on tropes that inherently put down femininity and they instead uplift femininity in all of it's forms and in whoever expresses it

  • @justanothergoth6544
    @justanothergoth6544 Před 3 lety +39

    I want to be a goth-bimbo sometimes, a possessed looking goth-doll in others and a goth/punk-ish-gremlin when I don't feel like doing the other ones that require more complex make up styles.

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 Před 3 lety +6

      I would love to see this! We need more dark, gothic bimbos along with the bright, happy bimbos
      It makes me think of Misa from death note

    • @tintedcherry
      @tintedcherry Před 3 lety +2

      now you give me inspo to be grunge ulzzang binbo (ulzzang, eol-jang, a term from korea, used to described perfect face. I’m nowhere fetishizing it, I’m also Asian and they have the style and kind of makeup I love)

  • @jbtechcon7434
    @jbtechcon7434 Před 3 lety +72

    So apparently, 14:50 "bimbo versions of feminism repackaged as capitalist Girl Power" are bad, but 15:43 bimbo versions of feminism repackaged as social media Girl Power are good. Got it.

    • @jerrysstories711
      @jerrysstories711 Před 3 lety +16

      Right! Because social media and capitalism are TOTALLY separate things.

    • @Love25648
      @Love25648 Před 3 lety +40

      I don’t think they were agreeing that’s how they see the spice girls. They are just saying how critics saw them. But yeah the tik tok social media examples were very weak and cringe. They also didn’t even look like bimbos. More like alt girls and social rejects who are radical leftist (aka fake woke).

    • @IceCreamMeiLo
      @IceCreamMeiLo Před 3 lety +1

      I was also confused

    • @LemonCoutureBunny
      @LemonCoutureBunny Před 3 lety +3

      I definitely understand everyone's confusion/hesitation surrounding bimbo reclamation. I'd like to jump in and maybe clarify a few things and hopefully it ends up being helpful! This might be long....
      So the reason why these two situations are completely different is because in the 14:50 "bimbo versions of feminism repackaged as capitalist girl power" those depictions were still mainly derogatory and that trope image was still controlled by the men in media (writers/directors/anyone who was able to have a say in the perpetuation of the bimbo trope), whereas the 15:43 "bimbo versions of feminism repackaged as social media girl power" is in the control of every day women today who are evolving this negative stereotype. That's a HUGE, distinct, and important difference between these two situations.
      Idk how versed everyone here is about feminist history, but the idea of "performing femininity = bad for women" has been a point of contention for DECADES. There have always been these community debates around whether or not women can ever truly reclaim femininity, and both sides make valid points, honestly. But I brought this up to show that there is a history of women and men shaming/policing/excluding other women on how they choose to present themselves and what they decide is personally empowering. And more often than not, hyperfemininity is frowned upon, leaving women who WANT to embrace their hyperfemininity between a rock and a hard space of either denying themselves or being dehumanized by both men and women if they pursue a personal aesthetic.
      This is why the reclamation of hyperfemininity (represented here by the bimbo trope) is incredibly important. It allows women to start redefining this hyperfemininity as something separate from men. There is an entire community of bimbos, and if you ever find yourself on that side of the internet, I recommend reading the comments. Many women have vocalized relief in being able to explore the "bimbo aesthetic" now, how much support and confidence they've found in the community, etc.

    • @jbtechcon7434
      @jbtechcon7434 Před 3 lety

      @@LemonCoutureBunny Ah, so in the first case male producers direct women to behave this degrading way, in the second case a later generation of women voluntarily imitates the degrading behavior because they were told it was empowering. Such strides!

  • @zendayasfruityfrenchfry1784

    You guys always upload when I’m studying!

  • @138veronica
    @138veronica Před 3 lety +23

    Please cover the "Small Towns are Better" Trope

  • @analeahlefave9482
    @analeahlefave9482 Před 3 lety +16

    I love the Take so much, easily one of the best CZcams Channels around.

  • @prettyawesomejm
    @prettyawesomejm Před 3 lety +10

    I hung with the bimbos in college. I always had fun at the good parties. I got all of the spill over perks. Girls who looked like me weren’t supposed to be in those circles but the bimbos made sure I was included.

  • @nightsmelodyful
    @nightsmelodyful Před 3 lety +1

    honestly playing bimbo has saved me a ton from dealing with shit. sometimes playing dumb just works

  • @BellaMusical
    @BellaMusical Před 3 lety +9

    Many of these movies are super fun: The house bunny, legally blonde, mean girls etc.

  • @emmx2719
    @emmx2719 Před 3 lety +24

    new subscriber.. im OBSESSED with these! i’ve been sending them to my sociology professors haha

  • @kelseybenham4005
    @kelseybenham4005 Před 3 lety +17

    Please explore the romanticization of being and “orphan” trope

  • @nickfrizzell-pratt7711
    @nickfrizzell-pratt7711 Před 3 lety +43

    If it empowers you and makes you feel good dispite what ever gender or orientation. Go for it. But sadly, all I see are people embracing narcissistic behaviors while claiming them to be healthy or good for growth and development. But again to each their own.

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla Před 3 lety +6

    My grandmother was the first woman to earn a PHD in her college. She worked in academia for years, and was a highly respected expert in her field, writing a number of books.

  • @amandaredd3057
    @amandaredd3057 Před 3 lety +10

    My mom always said that confidence is incredibly attractive to others and she was absolutely correct! I knew a girl who was heavy with very thick glasses but she might as well have been wonder woman as she walked through life owning it (she was kind and funny too), and it was very attractive to everyone around her. I've seen the opposite with more traditionally attractive women.

    • @_Sakidora_
      @_Sakidora_ Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, people underrate confidence in women. Everyone knows it's what gets men laid or promoted but fail to appreciate it also works for women too.

  • @beingilluminous
    @beingilluminous Před 3 lety +2

    These videos are truly amazing conversation points and examples of self awareness and empowerment. I love sharing them and helping to understand how the tropes formed the biases I grew up with. Thank you for your wonderful work!

  • @olympia1345
    @olympia1345 Před 3 lety

    I cannot tell you how much I've been waiting for this video!!

  • @theresas5892
    @theresas5892 Před 3 lety +3

    this channel is soo AMAZING i cant. i love how critical, progressive and understandable they are. thank u

  • @DasPuppy
    @DasPuppy Před 3 lety +22

    In our friend group of men and women, one of the men once invited his then girlfriend to a party we had. She was stunning! And besides her looks, she was visiting university, becoming a teacher, was then already in schools to get some experience as mandated by her studying to become a teacher. As soon as they both left all the girls were all up and about "Of course he has someone like this as a girlfriend." I felt soooo out of place when that happened. It was just plain old wrong. Where is body positivity towards those people who "don't seem to need it"? Like .. what the hell happened there?!
    She was fun to talk with. Was a bit shy since she was newly introduced to the group. But other than that she did nothing to upset anyone. It was so surreal. They are not together anymore, but still, that evening still is very vivid in my mind.

    • @momobunny1234
      @momobunny1234 Před 3 lety +1

      As a woman, I instantly nix anyone out of my life, woman or man, who chooses to treat people as competition for any reason. I've had way too many experiences with toxic, two-faced behavior like that to tolerate it. There is nothing worse than a room choosing to talk badly about somebody just because they were perceived to be prettier or better at something than the people around them felt to be, and it screams of insecurity and bullying. "I feel like they're better than me for no good reason, so I'm going to talk badly about them to make myself feel better." Or, alternatively, "I'm jealous of their looks/smarts/personality, so I'm going to tell myself that they're trying to be perfect in order to make me jealous". I do not understand that kind of thought process.

  • @Jill-ih9dq
    @Jill-ih9dq Před 3 lety +2

    I love it when videos on this channel make me examine my own assumptions and prejudices.

  • @girlwiththerabbitteeth98
    @girlwiththerabbitteeth98 Před 3 lety +23

    I love your takes on things. I already agree with everything you say

  • @zwhpanatha13
    @zwhpanatha13 Před 3 lety +20

    I mean can we let women live without judging everything they do???

    • @jordanloux3883
      @jordanloux3883 Před 3 lety +1

      We live in the age of social media. Nobody is free from judgement anymore.

    • @zwhpanatha13
      @zwhpanatha13 Před 3 lety +4

      @@jordanloux3883 at least we as women we can try☺️

  • @godbear2930
    @godbear2930 Před 3 lety +11

    I'm not one for "reclaiming" negative words. I'm more about proving people wrong or just ignoring them all together. Giving yourself a negative title and trying to make it a positive thing seems odd to me.

  • @Tesko91
    @Tesko91 Před 3 lety +1

    I love this channel so much. Much Love from a himbo!

  • @Amy-G-Dala-
    @Amy-G-Dala- Před 3 lety +1

    This video is wonderful and so insightful! Thank you! I told a joke at work yesterday and got called a bimbo by a co-worker, I felt sad about it. It was really strange since we both held the same job position and yet she saw me as lesser.

  • @Whatever-mx3bt
    @Whatever-mx3bt Před 2 lety +7

    Legally Blonde was a fantastic movie on the Bimbo trope reclaimed, anyone who appreciates this video should absolutely see that movie!

  • @samarahaq4958
    @samarahaq4958 Před 3 lety +10

    can we all agree that these goddamn labels are getting tiring???

  • @64BitBard
    @64BitBard Před rokem +2

    This was really informative. You guys have a real talent for research and detail.

  • @TheCelestialsparrow
    @TheCelestialsparrow Před 3 lety

    this made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. What a wonderful breakdown of the character trope.

  • @outsmarty
    @outsmarty Před 3 lety +12

    Sacrificial black friend

  • @Chuuzus
    @Chuuzus Před 3 lety +39

    Anna Faris is the OG Bimbo 😭

  • @DarylBaines
    @DarylBaines Před 3 lety

    great channel. Always enjoy.

  • @TheFeltonLover
    @TheFeltonLover Před 3 lety +16

    i wonder if the take will ever make a video defending GNC and masculine women as much as they defend hyper-feminine women.

    • @seliamila1005
      @seliamila1005 Před 3 lety +1

      True

    • @linsangchannel5923
      @linsangchannel5923 Před 4 měsíci

      Lmao they already called female characters with not feminine interests and behaviours as "cool girls" "trying to" act like a man" (since when is doing things that are not feminine coded necessarly "acting like a man" I don't know😂) and they basically put them under the spectrum of "pick me". Cause you know, you can't possibly do what you do for yourself, it must be to cater to men even when you're a lesbian😂. Meanwhile, hyper feminine women get pissed off when anyone assume anything about them because of their appearance which is fair but you can have as much prejudice as you want on GNC women. 😂
      (I'm laughing but tbh I'm upset as fuck)

  • @theaholmes3261
    @theaholmes3261 Před 3 lety +50

    Not only reclaiming, but weaponizing.
    Simply amazing.

  • @kilimanjaro5537
    @kilimanjaro5537 Před 3 lety +8

    I thought when they said they were reclaiming the bimbo trope it was going to be like the Elle woods type. But I see it’s more along the lines that it’s ok to be known just for your body and unintelligent.

  • @eugenedalloway3894
    @eugenedalloway3894 Před 3 lety

    So relatable & interesting! You're the best!💗💗💗

  • @aldovelez8481
    @aldovelez8481 Před 3 lety

    You guys are great!!! Thanks for all your work!

  • @theteddy906
    @theteddy906 Před 3 lety +3

    Honestly that's one of the things I dislike about second wave feminism, that it was focused on getting respect for women (which is good) but only through the male lens of what is or is not respectable. Women having to behave a certain way (outside of common courtesy and not harming others) to be respected means that women still, by default, are not respected and have to prove themselves. It's gross.

  • @CamJames
    @CamJames Před 3 lety +26

    the newest generation just seems like they're doing so much work on social media. all the time, screaming out into the universe to be accepted. it's exhausting to watch.

    • @mishka765
      @mishka765 Před 3 lety +5

      now imagine how exhausted they must be.

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Před 3 lety +4

      @@mishka765 they could just stop. Social media has warped (some of) their brains to think universal acceptance and constant attention are necessary.

    • @mishka765
      @mishka765 Před 3 lety +8

      @@CamJames i dont think its about universal acceptance. it's more about teaching and educating each other about acceptance and emphaty.

    • @mishka765
      @mishka765 Před 3 lety +8

      @@CamJames for exaple. i come from really conservative country and without social media i wouldn't have access to some progressive mindsets. thats why im thankfull for newest generation speaking their mind.

    • @CamJames
      @CamJames Před 3 lety +2

      @@mishka765 that's great for you. I'm not talking about educational users. A lot of them are just being loud, chaotic or silly just out of boredom. Which is fine for them but I don't wanna see it.

  • @AdishaMusic
    @AdishaMusic Před 3 lety +1

    This was genuinely heartwarming

  • @LeeLe412
    @LeeLe412 Před 3 lety +3

    I can't believe you put the three stooges! I'm so happy people remember them

  • @leniliddy
    @leniliddy Před 3 lety +15

    Just here to drop the interesting fact that in Germany "bimbo" is also used to refer to PoC, kind of like the N-word. I have no clue how this came to be but isn't it crazy how you can literally hurt two groups of people with one word?

    • @lenastorm6280
      @lenastorm6280 Před 3 lety

      Echt? In welcher Region? Ich komm nämlich aus Österreich und hab das Wort noch nie gehört.

    • @leniliddy
      @leniliddy Před 3 lety

      @@lenastorm6280 Kannst du tatsächlich auf Wikipedia sogar nachlesen. Ich wurde auch erst neulich darauf aufmerksam gemacht.

    • @lenastorm6280
      @lenastorm6280 Před 3 lety

      @@leniliddy Ah ja wirklich! WTF? O.o

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Před 3 lety +7

    More tropes: Bitch, Career Woman, Activist, Snob, Foreign Exchange Student, and Cool Guy.

  • @trrerid
    @trrerid Před 3 lety +1

    I love this. Thank you ladies for making this.

  • @lilyofthevalley3470
    @lilyofthevalley3470 Před 3 lety

    I love your videos - so insightful..I’d love to see you do the ‘will they won’t they’ trope!

  • @HappyKat-wc4ld
    @HappyKat-wc4ld Před 3 lety +6

    I look like a bimbo, but that doesn't mean I'm always a happy go lucky, life of the party type of woman. I choose to look the way I do because the aesthetic alone gives me a tiny bit of joy in this depressing world. ❤🖤

  • @BellaMusical
    @BellaMusical Před 3 lety +3

    In Sweden we had a famous character on TV called Grynet when I was a kid. She was essentially a smart girly girl with glasses and a princess crown who got mad whenever something wasn't fair. I didn't think much of it back then, but she was really ahead of her time.

  • @Mythicfeline
    @Mythicfeline Před 3 lety

    I think this is my favorite video from you guys yet! Ya'll are awesome and thanks for helping put this message out there