The best way to fish bread is just to take about a 1/4 of a slice of white bread, fold it in half, squeeze all the air out, fold it in half again the other way and squeeze again, then just pin once on a small hook. @@JK-xv3dv If going for mullet or small yakkas, use a smaller bait of course.
Many years ago, fishing with Dad on the North Coast we would occasionally catch drummer when fishing for Bream of the rocks. They sure put up a fight. Dad always said the drummer were only good for fish cakes and that was only if you didn't catch anything else. Interesting that people say they are good to eat, maybe what we called drummer were a different fish, as I didn't recall them as being good to eat.
Generally they are good eating, rare one is tough. I target them. I either fillet and fry fish finger sized pieces (recommend coconut oil); or bake whole (gutted and gilled) soaked in some coconut milk and spices, with slits in sides to allow to 'marinate'. Not as sweet as blackfish. Silver Drummer are mother-in-law fish. You can eat them, but its a grey meat, strong fishy taste, might be what yr dad meant
I can reassure you, you are not alone, mate. I have caught a few. And ducks a plenty, a couple of black swans, a pelican or 2 and a mulloway on a seagull that hit the water after taking a sardine bait in the cast. I hate birds! Did I mention the cormorant that took my minnow lure? And fought under, on and above the water like a beast? I really hate birds. But, only while fishing lol.
Thanks again Roger. Love those ice spikes for rock fishing- game changer for me. (btw you put them on upside down (spikes facing into your shoe) @10mins).
Great video! I grew up in England and would predominantly float fish, trotting to be precise. The closest I’ve seen to that style is how you guys fish for blackfish. We would use the same clear rubber except two pieces and would slide it straight onto the line and then push the top and bottom of the float into the rubber trapping the line. You can slide the float up or down in the same way, the float just doesn’t run. In deep water we’d use 14ft rods as they help with casting and tending the slack line. Again great video mate.
Propblem with sea fishing is that you are probably fishing greater depths and the line stop may be up on your reel for casting. Certainly done the line stop rubber over the float end for coarse fishing
Hey Roger. I'm a long time watcher, but first time commenting. I've always loved your content. Your videos are the epitome of KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid, lol. But it works. You are always very informative and a very knowledgeable fisho. I too only use the two knots that you use, as it's all you need. I recall 40 years ago using a basic looped rig, with 3 hooks free on the loop, baited with crust, from the Anglers Omnibus, (Les Firth rig) maybe? Pulled many big bream from the Harrington wall using it, as well as dough. Anyway, keep it up mate, always waiting for your next upload. Happy fishing and tight lines. ✌️
Roger I have followed your fishing shows and refreshed much since I am in my late years in Canada. I used to fish in SA and lots of Shad (Taylor, Bluefish) from a very early age. My Dad had taught me to fish and I carrie that to fishing in Cape Cod (USA). Your shows really tempts me to come down to Australia one of these days and maybe meet you on the beach, So keep on doing what you do best and keep me entertained. A big THANK YOU for keeping me refreshed. 🙏🏽🌹🇨🇦
I have used some floats where the line goes around them from the outside (not through the center). It has a small spring loaded hook at the top and bottom to hold the line. Takes seconds to move it up and down for the desired depth..
In England, we call that bread flake, and it's mainly used in freshwater. I've caught a decent grey mullet in an Irish harbour on it, though. Great video - I'm envious of the venue (and the country)👍
My Great Grandmother used to make a simple dough and use that as bait whenever she went down to the creek on her handline and always caught plenty of Bream. Couldnt help but think of her when watching your rock fishing video. Love your content and ive been taking plenty of tips, thanks for the great videos! 😄👍🏿
This was my first fishing love. Pop introduced me to luderick fishing when I was but a wee little lad, and I have always loved to soak a bit f bread, weed or cunjy under a float off the rocks. I prefer to use a brass ring in place of the swivel. Just what my granddad always used. At times it can pay to clip a couple of small split shot spaced onto the leader just to drag it down a bit better in a choppy wash. Soft white toast is definitely the go. I use it for carp and other freshies as well as in the salt.
An old school bush gentleman. He was amazing to see in the bush, awkward as heck in a city lol. @@RogerOsborneFishing He was a carpenter on Waragamba Dam and stuff back in the day, so a lot of knocking around in the tiger country. He taught me the joys of hunting bass in the freshwater reaches of the Eastern flows, how to spin a mullet bait across a sand flat for big flathead and Mulloway, snaring rabbits for cod bait... um, yeah. Did I mention he was old school? Thanks for all the amazing videos you make mate. I love to watch them for a fix of the coast.
Hi Roger. Another great video, thanks. Could you consider a video showing how you catch Mullet and other small bait fish? Thanks again. Kind regards MP
Use a light leader (as light as possible, 1 kilo is fine) and a number 12 hook. Fly hooks are good, either with or without a nymph or shrimp tied. A small piece of bread in a crumb trail, dough or a small piece of prawn makes great bait. Remember they are suckers so allow a little slack between float and bait if using a float. This allows them to suck from a distance as is their wont. When free baiting, again, you do not want a tight line before they take the bait. This means, pay attention to what is going on. When they suck a bait in, they will spit it out twice as fast if they suspect something odd about it. Strike fast when you get a take. Yakkas and small slimy macks will take a slightly larger hook aggressively if you keep a slow and steady feed going in a burley stream. Use bread, corn, prawn pieces, fish pieces etc for bait for them, they are not particularly fussy once you get them feeding in a trail.
Good video Roger, all the basics covered there 👍🏻. I would have done the opposite to you after having caught that keeper. With the run-out tide, I would have “shallowed up” my float, berleyed up again and lobbed my bait back where I pulled the fish - you had already found the fish, no need to go prospecting, but that’s just me and that’s fishing Cheers 👍🏻
Thanks, this really good basic stuff and I have put my grandson onto your channel to cover the essential knowledge needed to make a start in rock fishing. I just received an email from him letting me know that pelagic species and kingfish are on the bite at a nearby Island. He is catching bonito so the northern bluefin tuna will also be there (a lot more work to actually land one through).
Good to see bread used as bait, I've caught many carp using it but never thought to use it in the surf. You may have covered this in another video but are you using braided main line?
A running float stopper that can go though into your rod runners would be another good option as you could adjust to deeper depths. Your from Ulladulla NSW South Coast .....that's paradise mate! PS: Do you know a young guy called Josh d fishing? as I haven't seen him in a while..
Interesting! In South Africa we use a similar approach with the "Burley." Hope the spelling okay? However, we knead the crusts into a stiffer consistency, add a few drops of cod liver oil, and wrap the bread around a small pebble. Then we chuck a piece in straight ahead, and another two pieces at about 45 degrees left and right. The pebble goes straight to the bottom, the bread dissolves slowly, and the cod liver oil rises through the water column. Also increases the possible target species.
Roger I am on the St Lawrence River some where south of Montreal and Ottawa. ( Incidently good fishing water Quite a mix of species. eEnjoy your show honest straight forward fishing , certainly an interesting adventure watching your show 👁️👁️✨💫❗
I love the float fishing over in Northern Ireland and as we fish a lot deeper I use float stops that can go through the rod rings also use another one about 2foot above the lead weight so if I get a break I don’t lose my float but loved the fishing magic !
Hi Roger, I always look forward to your new videos and I am looking for a safe looking spot like where you are for this video. I would normally fish around the Wollongong area as it is closer to me. Can you please let me know where you are fishing there or any other spots nearby. Thanks again I think your explanations of rigs and gear are great for me and many others. Take care and thanks again for your good work.
I always see you changing hands after striking and it seems a little cumbersome. I attach my handle on the left side of the reel, as I strike with my right (I'm right handed) and reel with my left to avoid this.
Hey, Great video! I noticed in your gear list you have "Shimano Nasci C500 Spinning Reel" but I can't find any reference to that anywhere... Is that correct?
I make a "bread dough" with a bit of sardine in oil mixed in with it for drummer (I chase the big silver drummer just for the fight) and fish it under a burley float..., NEVER fails (Biggest drummer was 10.5lb 🥰).
Greetings from India!!!! Very good & very useful indeed!!!! Dude how about doing everything the same but with two hooks, one for bread and other one with shrimp. Just a curious thought!!!
who makes or where can you buy the rock grips? sizes? thanks cost? nice video love the lifejacket! and bread. Have you made shrimp sandwiches with a ground up prawn mixed in the dough?
For these small species, I'd strongly recommend you use a circle hook so you don't lose them trying to set the hook. With a circle hook, the fish sets the hook itself, and has the added benefit of greatly reduced chance of gut hooking your target.
A warning about rock spikes. Where I live, the coastline is mostly Granite. Rock spikes, including (especially) rock fishing boots are likely to kill you. The spikes slide on the granite like ice skates.
Roger, you have done it again, it was only today I was researching using floats of the rocks and here you are!
Great to watch another video,and I compliment you and your viewers on the open and friendly interaction
Your videos are so interesting and engaging. What a super location. Best wishes from a cool, wet Yorkshire,England
Thank you very much! Andy
If you mix a little sand in your bread burly mix it gets it under the water quicker and the birds don’t pinch as much.
Yes, and a bit of cookig or tuna oil helps to keep it together whilst spreading out and it spreads the smell and the trail better.
Thanks for the tip!
Good to know!
Are you making dough balls with the bread?
The best way to fish bread is just to take about a 1/4 of a slice of white bread, fold it in half, squeeze all the air out, fold it in half again the other way and squeeze again, then just pin once on a small hook. @@JK-xv3dv If going for mullet or small yakkas, use a smaller bait of course.
Thank you, great tip with the rubber tube I am going to give it a go next time I’m chasing Gars. Thanks again.
I was waiting for this rock fishing and special float session! Thank you so much Roger..❤❤
I’ve used split shot rather than a classic sinker in estuary and river fishing for black fish, and harvest smooth weed from rock pools as bate
I do the same. And Cunjy
Many years ago, fishing with Dad on the North Coast we would occasionally catch drummer when fishing for Bream of the rocks. They sure put up a fight. Dad always said the drummer were only good for fish cakes and that was only if you didn't catch anything else. Interesting that people say they are good to eat, maybe what we called drummer were a different fish, as I didn't recall them as being good to eat.
Drummer are not to bad to eat alot better then so called good eating fish.
They have a fat line you have to get rid off along the top of the gut cavity.
Generally they are good eating, rare one is tough. I target them. I either fillet and fry fish finger sized pieces (recommend coconut oil); or bake whole (gutted and gilled) soaked in some coconut milk and spices, with slits in sides to allow to 'marinate'. Not as sweet as blackfish. Silver Drummer are mother-in-law fish. You can eat them, but its a grey meat, strong fishy taste, might be what yr dad meant
Great vid mate. Thoroughly entertaining, you’ve got to love our weather
Another great teaching Video Roger! Thank you! 👍
I’m happy too see it isn’t just me that catches blooming seagulls 😂
Some great tip again thanks again ,love the videos
I can reassure you, you are not alone, mate. I have caught a few. And ducks a plenty, a couple of black swans, a pelican or 2 and a mulloway on a seagull that hit the water after taking a sardine bait in the cast.
I hate birds!
Did I mention the cormorant that took my minnow lure? And fought under, on and above the water like a beast?
I really hate birds.
But, only while fishing lol.
Nitro fuel line would work great for the rubber stopper, most hobby shops have it.
Great location and looks like wonderful day. Thanls Roger
Roger, I thought we are going to have fried chicken tonight!!!! That bird catch was epic😂😊👍🎣
Thanks again Roger. Love those ice spikes for rock fishing- game changer for me. (btw you put them on upside down (spikes facing into your shoe) @10mins).
Opps, what a classic
@@RogerOsborneFishing I knew you'd see the funny side!
Great video!
I grew up in England and would predominantly float fish, trotting to be precise. The closest I’ve seen to that style is how you guys fish for blackfish.
We would use the same clear rubber except two pieces and would slide it straight onto the line and then push the top and bottom of the float into the rubber trapping the line. You can slide the float up or down in the same way, the float just doesn’t run.
In deep water we’d use 14ft rods as they help with casting and tending the slack line.
Again great video mate.
Propblem with sea fishing is that you are probably fishing greater depths and the line stop may be up on your reel for casting.
Certainly done the line stop rubber over the float end for coarse fishing
Thank you Roger.. very informative .. ❤❤
the rig for floats. i been fishing for long time. good someone finally shows true accurate. thanks roger.
Glad to help
love the video roger, i was one of the 2 boys there.
Was that your dad that came to say hi? Glad you enjoy the content mate, thanks for watching
@@RogerOsborneFishing yeah it was, nice to see you put him in the video, live the content
Hey Roger. I'm a long time watcher, but first time commenting. I've always loved your content. Your videos are the epitome of KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid, lol. But it works. You are always very informative and a very knowledgeable fisho. I too only use the two knots that you use, as it's all you need. I recall 40 years ago using a basic looped rig, with 3 hooks free on the loop, baited with crust, from the Anglers Omnibus, (Les Firth rig) maybe? Pulled many big bream from the Harrington wall using it, as well as dough. Anyway, keep it up mate, always waiting for your next upload. Happy fishing and tight lines. ✌️
Thanks mate, thanks for saying hello
Another master lesson from the Master! Thank you!
My pleasure!
I knew white bread was good for something 😂..
Awesome tutorial Roger !
thanks for teaching me how to set up with your full experience. great
Thanks Roger another great video!
Roger I have followed your fishing shows and refreshed much since I am in my late years in Canada. I used to fish in SA and lots of Shad (Taylor, Bluefish) from a very early age. My Dad had taught me to fish and I carrie that to fishing in Cape Cod (USA).
Your shows really tempts me to come down to Australia one of these days and maybe meet you on the beach, So keep on doing what you do best and keep me entertained. A big THANK YOU for keeping me refreshed. 🙏🏽🌹🇨🇦
Hi, great to hear from you. Thanks for sharing!
I have used some floats where the line goes around them from the outside (not through the center). It has a small spring loaded hook at the top and bottom to hold the line. Takes seconds to move it up and down for the desired depth..
Yeah, that's how I grew up fishing.
In England, we call that bread flake, and it's mainly used in freshwater. I've caught a decent grey mullet in an Irish harbour on it, though. Great video - I'm envious of the venue (and the country)👍
Thanks, Hi from Australia
Good info, thanks Roger
Thanks Roger
Needed this 😊
Good to see he's wearing a vest as well not to many rock fishermen do thanks for the great advice
Thank you for an extremely interesting and informative video.
An absolutely sensational video.
My Great Grandmother used to make a simple dough and use that as bait whenever she went down to the creek on her handline and always caught plenty of Bream. Couldnt help but think of her when watching your rock fishing video. Love your content and ive been taking plenty of tips, thanks for the great videos! 😄👍🏿
Thanks. Your grandmother was onto it, dough is a great bait!
thx. yet to try this technique.
This was my first fishing love. Pop introduced me to luderick fishing when I was but a wee little lad, and I have always loved to soak a bit f bread, weed or cunjy under a float off the rocks. I prefer to use a brass ring in place of the swivel. Just what my granddad always used. At times it can pay to clip a couple of small split shot spaced onto the leader just to drag it down a bit better in a choppy wash.
Soft white toast is definitely the go. I use it for carp and other freshies as well as in the salt.
Your pop sounds like a good man. Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching, appreciate the support!
An old school bush gentleman. He was amazing to see in the bush, awkward as heck in a city lol. @@RogerOsborneFishing He was a carpenter on Waragamba Dam and stuff back in the day, so a lot of knocking around in the tiger country. He taught me the joys of hunting bass in the freshwater reaches of the Eastern flows, how to spin a mullet bait across a sand flat for big flathead and Mulloway, snaring rabbits for cod bait... um, yeah. Did I mention he was old school?
Thanks for all the amazing videos you make mate. I love to watch them for a fix of the coast.
Hi Roger. Another great video, thanks. Could you consider a video showing how you catch Mullet and other small bait fish? Thanks again. Kind regards MP
Use a light leader (as light as possible, 1 kilo is fine) and a number 12 hook. Fly hooks are good, either with or without a nymph or shrimp tied. A small piece of bread in a crumb trail, dough or a small piece of prawn makes great bait.
Remember they are suckers so allow a little slack between float and bait if using a float. This allows them to suck from a distance as is their wont. When free baiting, again, you do not want a tight line before they take the bait. This means, pay attention to what is going on.
When they suck a bait in, they will spit it out twice as fast if they suspect something odd about it. Strike fast when you get a take.
Yakkas and small slimy macks will take a slightly larger hook aggressively if you keep a slow and steady feed going in a burley stream. Use bread, corn, prawn pieces, fish pieces etc for bait for them, they are not particularly fussy once you get them feeding in a trail.
Thanks Roger a great tutorial and right up my alley as this is a style of fishing I enjoy.
Glad to hear it
Love it 🤙
I think Roger is good teacher and also good father of him sons very much beautiful behavior ❤️
Good video Roger, all the basics covered there 👍🏻. I would have done the opposite to you after having caught that keeper. With the run-out tide, I would have “shallowed up” my float, berleyed up again and lobbed my bait back where I pulled the fish - you had already found the fish, no need to go prospecting, but that’s just me and that’s fishing
Cheers 👍🏻
The art of float fishing is having the bait at the right depth. I need to learn how to do this.
Great mate try a cirgle hook so you would just wait for the fish to swallow the hook an they dont gut hook the fish
Nice video Roger ❤❤❤❤❤
What is the legal size for a seagull? 😂😂😂😂 We used blue cheese with the bread when we were kids worked well.
Thanks, this really good basic stuff and I have put my grandson onto your channel to cover the essential knowledge needed to make a start in rock fishing.
I just received an email from him letting me know that pelagic species and kingfish are on the bite at a nearby Island. He is catching bonito so the northern bluefin tuna will also be there (a lot more work to actually land one through).
Awesome, thank you!
Legend thank you
Great tutorial. well done mate
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video mate thanks heaps
Glad you enjoyed it appreciate the support 👍🏼
Good to see bread used as bait, I've caught many carp using it but never thought to use it in the surf. You may have covered this in another video but are you using braided main line?
No I was just using mono
Awesome fishing Roger, I'm very interested in doing your beach worming course and beach fishing course if able .
Hi Roger , Love your videos from india.
A running float stopper that can go though into your rod runners would be another good option as you could adjust to deeper depths. Your from Ulladulla NSW South Coast .....that's paradise mate!
PS: Do you know a young guy called Josh d fishing? as I haven't seen him in a while..
yes sir
Interesting! In South Africa we use a similar approach with the "Burley." Hope the spelling okay? However, we knead the crusts into a stiffer consistency, add a few drops of cod liver oil, and wrap the bread around a small pebble. Then we chuck a piece in straight ahead, and another two pieces at about 45 degrees left and right. The pebble goes straight to the bottom, the bread dissolves slowly, and the cod liver oil rises through the water column. Also increases the possible target species.
Very good Martin, I can see how the rock would benefit, thanks 😊🎣
Roger I am on the St Lawrence River some where south of Montreal and Ottawa. ( Incidently good fishing water Quite a mix of species. eEnjoy your show honest straight forward fishing , certainly an interesting adventure watching your show 👁️👁️✨💫❗
Hi George, thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Hello from Australia!
I love the float fishing over in Northern Ireland and as we fish a lot deeper I use float stops that can go through the rod rings also use another one about 2foot above the lead weight so if I get a break I don’t lose my float but loved the fishing magic !
Thanks Stephen, Hi from Australia
These guys are all having a kind of musical orchestra for Sydney Opera Show... they may be swearing at you grandpaw.!!!😂
Hey Roger great video and techniques 👍🏻 what area are you in ????
Ulladulla South Coast NSW
Use the improved uni on the swivel, and fg not on the braid to flouro, almost 100% rating.
Another super lesson. You have the knack of explaining what matters in a simple and easily understood manner. Thanks again.
Hi Roger Can I ask what your rod is and kg rating Love your videos and have learnt a lot Cheers Tight lines.
another great video. thanks roger! were you peeling or leaving the prawns whole on the rocks?
I was peeling them Mark
Hi Roger, many thanks for the video! Would it benefit to also put a small bit of rubber tube between the sinker and the swivel, to protect the knot?
Yes, absolutely
Always found bread a difficult bait as it never seems to stay on the hook for more than a minute or 2. Will have a go at your hooking method
Your are only gentle man explain lot about line and hook explanation lot. Im ur fan now🎉
Abalone gut was top bait for Drummer but cant buy it anymore and i dont dive.
شرح بسيط جميل مفيد شكرا لك روجر
Its nice Technic to catch more fishes near the Rocks
Your drummer looks very much like the Bronze Bream we catch in South Africa.
Hi Roger, I always look forward to your new videos and I am looking for a safe looking spot like where you are for this video. I would normally fish around the Wollongong area as it is closer to me. Can you please let me know where you are fishing there or any other spots nearby. Thanks again I think your explanations of rigs and gear are great for me and many others. Take care and thanks again for your good work.
Wow! Wish our ocean was that flat up here in Oregon, USA.
Hi John from Aus!
I always see you changing hands after striking and it seems a little cumbersome.
I attach my handle on the left side of the reel, as I strike with my right (I'm right handed) and reel with my left to avoid this.
That’s how they set up most reels in the US.
I'm right handed. For me I just can't wind left handed. Switching hands is almost automatic.
Can you cast the tubing stopper through your guides or is the depth you can set the tubing stopper limited by the legth of the rod?
Hey, Great video!
I noticed in your gear list you have "Shimano Nasci C500 Spinning Reel" but I can't find any reference to that anywhere... Is that correct?
No, I use the Nasci as a light beach fishing reel.
Great video, Roger have you ever put the line through the float twice, just as you did with the stopper ? This way you may not need a stopper !!
That may work Peter, but it is a lot neater using a rubber stopper.
I make a "bread dough" with a bit of sardine in oil mixed in with it for drummer (I chase the big silver drummer just for the fight) and fish it under a burley float..., NEVER fails (Biggest drummer was 10.5lb 🥰).
Thanks Gary, Sounds great!
Roger have you tried microwaving bread older than a day with maybe a water-soaked tea towel over it to refresh the bread for stickiness?
Hi Terry no I haven't tried this. I usually keep the bread in the freezer (if I don't use it all) and seems to keep it fresh
Greetings from India!!!!
Very good & very useful indeed!!!!
Dude how about doing everything the same but with two hooks, one for bread and other one with shrimp.
Just a curious thought!!!
Interesting idea., Will do soon
@@RogerOsborneFishing hi again... Thanks for your reply and acknowledgement. Goodluck - Cheers
who makes or where can you buy the rock grips? sizes? thanks cost? nice video love the lifejacket! and bread. Have you made shrimp sandwiches with a ground up prawn mixed in the dough?
Hi Nancy, the brand of spikes is Icon, I bought them at the Compleat Angler Ulladulla for about $50
Just wanted to know if the drumer are the same ones as buff brim
For these small species, I'd strongly recommend you use a circle hook so you don't lose them trying to set the hook. With a circle hook, the fish sets the hook itself, and has the added benefit of greatly reduced chance of gut hooking your target.
A warning about rock spikes. Where I live, the coastline is mostly Granite. Rock spikes, including (especially) rock fishing boots are likely to kill you. The spikes slide on the granite like ice skates.
FYI...that's silicone rubber tubing. It stays supple and flexible essentially forever, but has very low rigidity.
Is the drummer a good eater, Roger. Caught and fried some couple months ago. I think they are some sort of mushy. What is the best way to cook them?
Drummer is one of my favorite fish to eat. Just pan fried in a beer batter, beautiful clean white flesh.
Couldn't you add a bigger hook to the one you catch and recast?
Learning alot from you bud Thankyou.
Sir can i rig a rubber shrimp on float
How did you adjust the placement of the float if you had the rubber tubing stopping its movement?
You move the rubber tubing up or down the line
What were those guys collecting in their buckets?
Nothing. They had been fishing elsewhere and came down to the rocks to clean their fish
Sorry mate and what reel?
Could you use this method to fish in shallow rivers?
Yes Mick you could, I have plenty of times.
5:58 “so when you up and down with that type of shitfishing” 😂
Almost got away with it Roger. Almost.
How to make bait bucket
I put a small stone inside the bate wet bread to make it sink.
Thanks for the sleep
How do you put bread on a hook? Why would soft bread stay on a hook.
Great, I see he shows how to do the bread at about 27:20
Does anyone know where this is
Dolphin Point NSW
How to cast it
In our country, 10cmc up goes to hot charcoal 😂