I HATE YOUR DECK #21 Rakdos Lord of Riots v Tevesh Kraum || Commander Gameplay cEDH edition mtg
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We encourage Rule 0 talk before every game, to help set expectations to create a healthy community, where we can all have fun playing this game.
Whose deck will we hate most?
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** IMPORTANT NOTES: 1. November 12 will have episode 22 round 3 of POST MALONE v PROF is happening and it's a nice long episode like most of you love. 2. Episode 21 that you are watching now was filmed in April way back before the Ban of Hullbreacher. We film lots of games not all games get to youtube. But this one was edited and had some fun moments we wanted to share before it got too old. We hope you can enjoy it. 3. This game was filmed before we started to film Rule 0, but at the table. We did bring multiple decks and the table agreed on all the decks in play, the rule 0 convo was play your fastest meanest decks! 4. The rest of the year will only have new episodes with Rule 0 included, since we now only film with Rule 0. 5. Plus this episode has Shirtless Cassius those are tats, that's not a shirt. What other channel will give you that?
Was about to say TF about hullbreacher but understandable
That at least explains why Lynch played a top tier cedh list. Surprised no one else had something cedh or close to it if you guys clarified fastest and meanest list.
@@drew941 I even let them pick my deck too. I wish our Rule 0 was filmed. So ya’ll could see how it went.
I mean at least it's an example of a bad rule 0 conversation. Saying general things like "fastest" and "meanest" are obviously going to mean different things to each player. Also calling it cEDH is kind of what furthers the mentality that cEDH is bad when you showcase it kind of stomping other decks. If all people were on the same power level as Lynch which is the intention of cEDH, the game would have made more sense. I really just hope people don't watch this and think cEDH goes this way.
@@michaeldlynch I think your amazing opening hand had a huge impact. The other players didn't have the right cards to stop that explosive turn and you balled out of control from there. Great stuff and stoked for prof and post soon, they have an amazing chemistry its hilarious
Me; “Why is Cassius shirtless”
Cassius ten seconds later; “I’m shirtless cause this is my natural state.”
That spoke to me on a spiritual level.
He brought the right kind of energy haha I’m all about it
It's also his store right?
@@MonkSupra Yeah he also brought a gallon of water from which he drinks DIRECTLY. What a king
I was born shirtless
Lol I know, right 🤣🤣
I like watching Cash just casually peeking at the hand of the person next to him while they’re taking a hot second to figure what they’re doing lol
using every advantage is part of the game lol
Cassius has become such an entertaining player and guest since his first game knights episode. Always watch his episodes
He really has
Nah he overrated Until draft to the Steelers
Plus He is Part of the Niner Nation!!!! Must be noted!!!
Lynch reminds me of this guy that my playgroup has at our LGS. He has a ton of old and expensive cards, and all of his decks are super good, but he never knows how to fully optimally play his turns so we let him get away with it lol.
I met a dude yesterday with a 6-7ish deck with a random timetwister in it. He bought it before I was even born lmao that was a funny age check to him when I told him that.
Literally. That’s how I felt watching him not make more thrulls with skull clamp out
He forgot about the proliferate trigger too
What a toxic jealous mindset. I heard once "I'm attacking you because you have Arabia's night cards in your collection" or "I don't want to play with people having Gaeas Craddle" yet they play optimized decks too they just don't have those old rare cards and pretend the table can't do anything about it.
You are saying you are being indulgent with that guy in your LGS or Lynch, while also saying "I'm jealous he has cards I couldn't get/afford but it's okay we let him get away with it because he sucks anyways." Like he had to have your permission smh lol.
Like a lot of players say they are not sore losers yet they can't stand anything going on their opponent's board, only as long as they can win.
@@JUM-cw3ff when people play commander together they want the decks to be mostly balanced against each other. Usually it's not lynch with the spice but in this game is like he's playing a cedh deck with his Thoracle win vs super friends and such. Seems like this game lynch wanted to win and they didn't have a rule 0 discussion about what they are each playing.
This goes somewhat toward Lynch being subconsciously targetted by people during later IHYD games xD
Lol you're right
"Why wouldn't she?!? She hasn't had a turn yet!!!" omg dying.
Why wouldn't she have 7 hands. Exactly lol.
@@vincentaponte5726 It's apparently common.
@@IHateYourDeck my friend asked me just yesterday if I had 7 cards in hand on T3... I was the only one without a turn 1-3 play... "yeah I'll say so... The math checks out..."
It is ok cause I'm Kettle and he is Pot. I paid the favor back when I asked him if he had any responses to being lethally attacked by Niv Mizzet Parun with no mana untapped or flying blockers... 🤦♂️
Yay, Rachel's back again! No offense to everyone else who's been on but she's been my favorite by far, oh this is going to be a good one, I can just feel it!
She's my favorite, too
I agree
I agree but it's not just her deck building I enjoy ,but her interactions with Joe is usually straight up comical
I agree. After seeing her on here I started following her games everywhere
Yeah she's got a great vibe around her
Rachel is back! The friendliest killer you will ever see play 😂. I'm hype!
Rachel is awesome
Nice to meet you hype
Lynch’s turn 1 cost more than any of my commander decks.
Only his manacript cost's more than my decks
It cost more than all of my decks combined. If you take condition and version into account, it might even be more than all decks of my playgroup combined.
Current market value of Lynch's turn 1 play- $1800 USD, give or take a couple hundred depending on condition and exactly which printing of Underground Sea that was.
And, yes, that's a Masterpiece Series Mana Crypt >
@@zackkelley2940 that Underground Sea has black borders, so it cannot be Revised or even Unlimited; it didn't look like it has square angles either, meaning that it cannot be a Collector or International Edition either. So unless that card is a foreign black border, his Turn 1 costed at least 5,000+ USD.
@@ROMANTIKILLER2 A friend of mine had a beta volcanic island. He thought it was around 1k but when i told him it was over 7k he threw up in his mouth lol
Every time someone wins with Thassa’s Oracle, a kitten dies
Talk about a card that should be banned or have never been printed. My playgroup and I don't allow alternate wincons like. It encourages people to play solitaire and never interact with opponents. I wouldn't even feel good about myself "winning" that way.
So i do a lot of cool stuff with my deck that are basically useless since my win con is a 2 card combo that i tutor and doesn't have anything in common with my deck beside the colours... Yeah super lame way, i wish it was banned officially or at least from content creator material
@@blaze556922 I only play by combat damage I don't do win cons like that just feels cheap and I hate 20min turns
@@smexy_a393 then you are someone that would be welcome at our table. 🙂
@@Andsio so you spin your wheels and win the same way every time because you tutor for it? Sounds like a whole lot of fun and not repetitively boring at all... 🙄 Seriously though I hope you enjoy yourself but that doesn't sound appealing to me.
i love that cassius's mic is just taped to his chest
This is one of my fav EDH game play channels now.
Rachel is my favorite guest, by far, both because of her game play and conversations.
Rachel's Orvar, the All-Form deck from the last time she was on finally forced me to make a mono blue deck and its dank AF. Rachel out here teaching people the ways of the dark side.
She controlled the board, keeping it even most game, then just exploded. Was fun to watch for sure.
That deck was DISGUSTING :P
I used her narset and windfall combo for my mono blue deck I just built 😅
I saw that and immediately built the decking thinking it would be some fun jank. Turns out it's fun but so powerful and fast I don't often get to play it.
@@matustrophic Yeah I'm tempted to build it but kinda water it down bit.
Cash, that ink is so good man. Love the color pop.
You should 100% be an Izzet player with all that.
Yo... The Otaku chef plays mtg?
I knew you’d eventually be here… you’ve been over at the command zone long enough.
I see Cassius is starting his newest charity campaign. "Pecs for Decks"
Rachel giving off Return of the Jedi Leia vibes with the outfit and hairstyle! Love it!
The interactions between the guys at the table are what makes these videos enjoyable to me.
[SPOILER] The game itself was barely a game, Lynch had won on T1 and no one ever had the slightest chance to catch up, it was Lynch's solitaire.
I love Rachel. She’s the kind of magic player I wish I could be. She is incredibly skilled and knowledgeable. She is always enjoying herself and cheering for opponents as well.
Fantastic game. I love the real reaction to a Thoracle win. No one is salty per se but no one is wowed or excited by it either. Very lackluster wincon and these raw expressions are the realness that keeps me coming back to this channel 👍
Yeah...I'm not too excited either by a cEDH style win when I'm trying to watch casual commander.
@@Layjus123 Tbh I like cedh because of the level of interaction almost every step of the way. That being said i can see what you mean. However, the more I've watched cedh and started dabbling into it I think as much as the ending combos can be similar the fun is actually the journey to get to the win more than anything else but I totally get your point I guess each to their own! :)
@@Layjus123 I don't know if this is the channel for you if you want to watch casual commander
There's definitely salt there. Nothing like half an hour of play ending in a fucking Thoracle lol
thoracle was one of the cards i liked seeing the most when it came out, unfortunately as is the case with many good cards (especially wincons) that happen to have broken synergy, they quickly become stale and people get sour on them. there's so many cards i love seeing that draw sighs from the table even when played fairly just because of their reputation and i always find it a bit sad
Filmed in the past, but “where the spice flows!” was very topical!
I love that Cassius's default expression is stare into the abyss
It was fun watching Lynch play with himself :-)
I’ve been a Bears fan my whole life and tonight I saw Cassius in my teams jersey! I was jumping up and down in my room noticing and cheering him on! Thank you for the awesome magic content and BEAR DOWN CASSIUS!!!!!
Best gameplay action / player reaction, and tunes. All of the EDH Creators are cool, but your show is my jam. Cheers!
Lynch had to film that "we always have a rule zero conversation" preamble to try to excuse that filthy turn one, lol.
4:45 When Cash says "that's really expensive", you know you spent too much.
So can everyone agree this is the best MTG CZcams show it’s unfiltered and raw and it’s just funny and the run good decks and have great guest I love this shit
I can't agree to that one chief. It's good but it ain't Commander Vs good imo. I love the guys from Commander Vs and the banter they have with one another. Those guys are like four old friends playing commander and it's just the absolute best.
I can’t agree, I still love “The command zone “. How far that channel came.
However I do like watching “I hate your deck” cause they try to play CEDH rather than “casual” or “for fun”.
I prefer Command Zone's Game Knights, because between the production value and the intercut interviews/commentary, it's easier for me to follow 50 minutes into a game when my attention is waning. But obviously, I still love IHYD or I wouldn't be here watching it :D
I would say this and play to win are the best. I can watch game knights but the lower power level on top of the several cuts to several minutes long commercials AND CZcams ads regularly is really annoying as well as the cringe worthy interview dialogues they do. It looks pretty but that’s about it imo.
@@SASORI55555 CZcams ads? It's 2021, get a free ad blocker. As for their integrated sponsor ads, I always just skip them 🤷♂️
Lynch out here running Fool's Opus against Rakdos pingers and Atraxa superfriends. Absolutely disgusting
Cassius is one of those players that consistently needs reminding of the boardstate, others triggers, AND his own triggers..... and now clothing. 🤣
He's a Sigma
Highest level of play accomplished by how baked Cassius was.
Ohhhhhh, so THAT'S why Lynch was targeted so hard in future games.
Joe:I gonna make your guys bigger
Rachel:There defenders my dear
Joe:NOOOOOOOOOO
Let’s Go!!..Can’t wait..2 great guest..gonna be a dope episode!
cassius, Congrats on being called up to the Bears!!! just no more looking at the sidelines with that "i just went infinite combo on you" face, lol.
Cassius' "congratulations" at the end 😂😂
Cassius sneakily cracking that fetch without paying life... I see you.
He took it later though.
After his turn 1, Lynch’s turn 2 gave me an aneurism.
Didn’t use tevesh + took 2 from mogis + played a skull clamp with 1 floating and didn’t use that to equip it to a thrull lmao
*aneurysm
*thrall
pretty sure he was stoned lol look at his eyes
When I watched my first episode of Game Knights it was the one with Joe as guest. I didn't know how their show worked at the time and thought Joe was going to be in the rest but soon found out he wasn't and was sad. I'm so glad he has his own channel now. He's a fun player to watch with such a great attitude and personality. Thanks for being awesome Joe and making great commander content! Oh, and Lynch, you're a pretty dope dude too. Keep it up guys!
'a possum will mess you up' i lost it here. awesome show team, thanks for laughs!
My roommate has a Mogis deck and believe me, our playgroup mostly hears the phrase "Did you Mogis?" Every turn lol.
One of my best friends returned to magic after a 20 year break and his first deck he built was a movie group slug deck. I hear the do you mogis every turn too : p
whoever is editing the videos, great job! the close ups were hilarious
Hey it's the guy who the ref attacked on Monday Night Football! (Just kidding, funny people are learning about Cassius being a MTG player now!)
Well at least Lynch knew they were playing cEDH
Amazing to see two of my favorite guests on the show back
My two favorite guests next too Proffessor and Post. Cassius' deck reminds me a lot of my Super Token Friends Atraxa deck, fun asf.
I'm a simple girl, I see Rachel in a commander video, I watch it
She’s great isn’t she! Glad to call her a friend.
@@michaeldlynch She's amazing all her decks are so unique and she's also just such a happy person, makes all her games so fun to watch
They looked so baked lol. Great game! Love the chilled out atmosphere, a welcome break from "the other guys"
The movie w/ Will Ferrel and Mark Wahlberg?
That despondent look at 29:22 is so universal 🤣 it's what happens when someone else in your playgroup is bout to go the f off
Yay Rachel’s back!! Omg turn one Lynch 🤯🤯 Shirtless Cassius … damn this is one hell of an episode!
I can already hear Joseph's laughter in my head.
Wow, I have to imagine that was even less fun to play than it was to watch.
Cassius always has this fantastic positive aura and energy around him, and he surrounds himself with great people that feed off that great energy also. Live on, live on in your natural shirtless state you beautiful man.
Nice game my dudes! Love the content! Hype for next ep :)
Rakdos, LOR has always have a special place in my heart... and now Rachel Weeks shares that.
I would so love to do this same stuff but representing the East Coast. Still my favorite EDH gameplay channel. Thank you so much guys.
Lynch would play a hullbreacher. Shirt fits him perfectly
Got em!
Enjoyed the game, and really just enjoy every game you guys post. Cheers!
I think it's hilarious that Cassius taped a mic to his chest :'D
I knew I had heard about this game on The Mind Sculptors' podcast when they invited Lynch, and had to go rewatch (relisten to?) the episode (great episode btw, you should check it out) to remember what Lynch said about this game (besides Cassius being shirtless).
Apparently they left the rule 0 conversation out, but everyone else agreed to Lynch running the Tevesh Kraum deck just to see it in action. They didn't know it would be a cEDH deck, and apparently they got really salty off camera. I guess this is an example of rule 0 going wrong, since they just agreed to bringing fast decks, and Lynch ended up being the only one to interpret that as a cEDH deck. Even though his deck is not that fast in an actual cEDH setting, relying more on grinding and outvaluing opponents with his commanders, it was still too much for what the rest of the table brought.
I mean we don't know about that, almost every single card he played is in the kraum/tevesh cedh list. Without seeing the list you really can't say if this deck was fast enough for cedh or not. Based on what I seen this deck could very easily hang as most cedh tables
@@spudster8887 Oh, I meant that within the realm of cEDH, he was playing a slower midrange deck. The deck can have a very explosive start, but it mostly relies on value engines (namely, Kraum and Tevesh) to assemble mid game combos after drawing lots of cards (think turns 4-5 with protection), unlike more linear all-in style decks like Codie or Anje.
I was merely pointing out that his deck, despite being cEDH, wasn't at the top of the speed chart. Perhaps if everyone else was playing more control-ly style decks instead of focusing on doing their own thing without access to great interaction (except for Cassius' deck), things could have turned out in a different way, but they did not because the rules weren't all that clear. A Torbran deck, for example, can be extremelly fast in a casual environment, but it's ill equipped to deal with what Lynch's deck was doing.
@@Orengi-kun I mean you could just call that being a grixis decks, kraum tevesh is basically a generic grixis midrange deck which relies on what all grixis decks rely on (I played obeka midrange for a while and that was basically just kess with the infinite turns loops obeka enables). But yeah I get what you meant not, sorry internet hard sometimes
@@spudster8887 There are some grixis lists that rely more on speed rather than grinding. A good example would be Rograkh Sylas, where none of the commanders give you any form of reliable card advantage, so you have to bank on abusing your 0 mana commander in order to win faster than other decks will more consistently.
@@Orengi-kun whilst they do exist, the majority of grixis decks in the format are going to be mid range lists which are attempting to abuse stuff like ad naus and win with everybodies favorite fish. But yeah silas/rograkh is different, which imagine showing a new player rograkh and then telling them this is one of the best commanders you can play if you pair it with the right stuff haha
My boy Lynch rocking the Tool shirt and playing some wholesome turn 1 Magic.
How drunk were you guys? LOL. I love your content, because the games remind me of the type of games most of us play. It's not polished, it's not pretty, but it's real. Thanks guys.
they seemed stoned, look at the droopy eyes lol
Can't wait for this match-up!
Damn that was a one sided beat down.
"highest level of performance" oh you are definitely the highest. XD
Always a good day when there's a new ep of IHYD!
Awesome game, this was so fun! Loved getting to see Rachel play some more games!
thanks you guys for the day brightener.. its is a cold dark one here in Oklahoma
I would never had noticed cash was shirtless
Honestly with that fresh ink, I'd be more pissed if he wasn't shirtless.
@@NeoDMC ❤️
Cassius: "please don't stare."
Me, a homosexual: "too late! No takesies backsies!"
I'm so excited to see an Atraxa superfriends deck. I have one and its so much fun to play. I can't wait to see what Cassius has in his version of the deck.
Lol
I love that Cassius has the mike taped to his chest.
He asked to go shirtless. I said no problem. We’ll take it to you!
A true gift to society.
@@misohappy1070 damn I hate typos. I meant we’ll tape it to you lol. But glad you got it.
This was one of the best IHYD Decks to be featured. LOL go off on em!!
Love the tool shirt and Alex Grey net of being!
Lol the takes backsy counter for Joe missing his narset stopping draw 😂😂
gotta say, the take-backies counter is a pretty good house rule, i'm gonna start implementing it
Yeah me and my friends started using it after I saw it in this show tio
You guys have grown this channel so quickly
I have a glass juice jar that I taped a sleeve to and it un-curls my foils. It works quite well without damaging the card
29:20 everyone's faces say it all hahaha
Hell yeah , the trilogy of the postie and prof bromance.
Thoroughly enjoy your content. Keep being true and I’ll catch ya on the flippity.
Damn I wish we had a rachel in our playgroup as well
Yeah fir Lynch... never seen him go off like that. Missed a couple of triggers but wel played sir!!!
I love this channel man such good vibes
This is literally a cEDH deck at a casual table.
Wtf even.
Yeah this wasn't my favorite episode. Watching a stomp like that isn't that fun. That's just my opinion though.
@@senorsmelly1391 I don't think "I Hate Your Deck" has ever been a casual table... I mean just the name of the show alone, I tune in to watch the saltiest most degenerate decks possible lol.
@@senorsmelly1391 yeah... their reactions and interactions still made the viewing experience enjoyable, but there never was a game, they could have all shuffled after Lynch's T1 (or when it countered a reaction attempt with FG in one of the very next turns).
@@philipjezeski6232 yeah idk I’ve never ever gotten a casual vibe from these guys lmfao, and you heard them mention they said they were all playing fast decks but weren’t drawing into anything. We all have games when we’re all just blown out
The reason for the rule 0 convos being filmed is that the audience asked for it. They always had the conversation. Further, they even stated in the video AND a comment that they agreed on "play your fastest, meanest deck". Lynch just had the best opening hand.
It would not have done much, but Lynch missed an Atraxa trigger that would have given him another loyalty on Tevesh.
So glad yall kept the intro lol Cash got your bacc Joe
Cash is the guy who wears shorts no matter how cold it is outside. Joe is the guy who wears a hoodke no matter how hot it is outside.
I love Rachel! Also glad to see my boy Lynch win for once! It seems like it's been forever
Two things, the Alex grey tool poster in the beginning, immediately like. Second thing Cassius needs to do his "taunt" anytime he knocks a player out.
how nice of lynch to invite the others to watch him play magic!
I fuck love these guys and this channel. It brings me so much joy.
That kick was cool as hell Cassius Marsh!!! \o/
Love the goku sleeves that Cassius is using, got a set myself :)
Lynch shouldn't need to take a take-backsies counter for skullclamping both creatures as Marsh's Narset "triggers" (They aren't really triggers, it's a 'replacement effect') are Marsh's
responsibility (Marsh would announce the first two triggers from Lynch's draw effects and then Lynch would not do it a second time) :x
But even the first draw two trigger wouldn't happen anyway. He took a take-backisies from the skullclamp mistake, and another one from the Barrin mistake.
I mean realistically it's not as big of a deal as it's made out to be since he could (And should since he's playing how power) do this on his second main phase. Hullbreacher can kill narset anyway do he would draw those cards after combat if he did the same thing
I really hope you guys start putting the real-life art of the cards that are being played up on screen. I wanna see all those alt arts on the battlefield!!! 🤩😱
Cassius, those refs did you dirty bro...no taunting at all, that entire officiating crew was a joke!!! Hope you get another chance to shine cause you were having yourself a great game!!!
Insane start and stunning underground sea 😱
Oh no I was so happy when I clicked this, time to patiently wait til tomorrow.
Oh no, he said not to stare and now I can't look away!
Lynch: "We always discus rule zero and power level."
Also Lynch: turn one fetchland > dual > mana crypt > jeska's will > tevesh szat.
Yo I saw that Tool poster. Very nice 👌