My Last Word on TED
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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2023
- Here is my final response to Chris Anderson and Adam Grant on the TED debacle.
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The łeft isn’t saying to see cołor because there are ínherent dísadvantages, they’re doing it because they are judgíng you/us based on race. It’s really about placíng błame and not about equalíty/equity at all.
I received my copy today, which I purchased after seeing a clip on the Rubin Report where he highlighted your bit on The View (which I never watch). I agree with everything you said and couldn't wait to order the book and will read it this weekend.
@@GhostSalWrong! The left is about respecting our differences. When we do, everything else falls into place.
@@BrendaJoyFoster That is the perception they want to give but the reality is very different.
I wouldn't even download it free. #FreePalestine #NotInMyName
“Life is triggering. Part of being an adult is learning to take responsibility for your feelings, rather than insisting it’s the world’s responsibility not to trigger you.” My new favourite quote. Keep up the great work, Coleman.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Or life’s hard. Wear a helmet. 😂
Fucking aye!
👌💯💯💯💯
Common sense is not common anymore.
This is the closest I've seen to an angry Coleman. I'm behind you all the way.
It takes a lot to get Coleman mad, glad to see him take a stand
Absolutely.
lol i was thinking that. as he continues on this path, he's bound to get more shit like this and i hope it doesn't make him slowly get grumpier and angrier and more resentful. his calmness is greatly comforting.
It's frustrating.
It's like arguing with the Feminists.
Everything is Patriarchy or Capitalism fault.
Boys need Male School Teachers?!
Patriarchy!!
Men die early?
Patriarchy!!
Suicide Rates!?!
Patriarchy & Toxic Masculinity!!!
High levels of DV in Lesbian Relationships!?
Patriarchy & Capitalism!!
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You can literally ask them, why "sky are blue", & they will say that some tribe in jungles believe that the sky are green.
And Blue Collor is a Product of White Cisheteronormative Patriarchy & Christian Colonialism ...
I’m always ride with Coleman
Wow. I’m an old, white woman who worked ( beginning in the 60’s) with (and FOR) inner city black youth for 40+ years. I loved “my kids” and fought for them. I’ve been SO alienated by the racial rhetoric of the last few years that I can’t quite remember what I believe. I’m thanking God for Coleman Hughes. I will be listening, reading and researching everything he produces. I pray he can be a leader for return to reason, because I’m witnessing a return of hostility towards black people BECAUSE of the recent “black ideology and “woke talk.” My heart is breaking.
You’re trash grandma. No one asked for nor needed your self-serving help. Eat shit.
Tomorrow’s blacks will pay for what today’s have done for generations. There is no easy comeback and certainly nothing like the civil rights movement, which will be a lark, a laugh, a walk in the park compared to the world head. Reparations toward other races are mandatory.
I have so much respect for your restraint and professionalism. You really prevented this from being dismissable as internet drama. I admire your ability to do it, because I just could not have that kind of self-control 💀
He is so young too. Very impressive …
Yeah, they did you dirty. You'll never get an apology, because the religious can never apologize for articles of faith.
Excellent point
Actually, nonreligious and religious both are rarely willing to admit to an error.
@@misterlyle.I read your comment, “akchewlee”
Certain species of secularism also have articles of faith. Example: communism.
@kennorthunder2428 communism isnt secularism. Comunism is an athiest state.
Well stated, Coleman. Keep calling out bullshit.
Amen
Wake up. Bullshit comes from bullshitters. These aren't bullshitters, they're homicidal lunatics masquerading as hippies.
Btw is he really conservative? Or more centrist? How would Coleman describe himself?
but the best presiden in modern history totally were overthrowing democracy and is the second coming of H right?
😂
Spot on, Coleman. 👌
I'm a former Psychology associate professor, and I've quit since 2020, because of all the BS topics of research that get green-lit in my university, and the pre-determined results of said studies. The replicability of these studies are always my contention during the defense of these theses/dissertations. Not to mention all the doctored data, and manipulated statistical treatment, faulty data-gathering procedures... I feel so disheartened by my industry. 😢
That sucks. I'm so sorry.
😮 that's scary... so to "them" ideas are more important than actually helping people
Your TED on Color Blindness was incredible, Coleman.
I pass it along frequently!
Who cares 😂
@@lugia8888 It's currently at 25K likes to 146 dislikes. Probably TED's most well-received talk and they treat it like its a stain on their reputation. If that doesn't raise your eyebrow a little, you're a fool. If it doesn't make you want to spread the message, you're a lazy fool.
The other problem is that you have to defend against Adam Grant while all of the other Ted speakers do not. That is not fair.
Adam Grant is a tubby millennial douchebag who offers surface level smug takes and is basically an advocate for scientism.
There's some good that came out of this though, since Coleman is smart enough to spot the flaws in Adam's argument. By challenging someone Coleman and having his argument refuted, Adam lost some of his credibility.
I agree here for sure
Adam Grant is such a word I’m not allowed to say in the comments section.
@@BiancaAguglia Coleman has good arguments but Adam has practiced for years at arguing ideas with the top academics in the world. Adam will never concede his beliefs and has 1000s of articles to counter anything Coleman says. Agree to disagree is best outcome for Coleman
I don’t even know why Ted staff should have an opinion on what kinds of topics should be spoken about.
Because identitarianism.
@@crescendo5594It is a threat to to their extreme. political,racial, religious, identitarian progressive ideology .
There obviously has to be a basic level of editorializing. Do you want maga extremists giving TED talks about how Donald Trump is the real president of the United States.? How about just a simple neo-Nazi espousing the benefits of the final solution? TED has the same problem left leaning journalism outlets have which is that the leaders are afraid to tell the children that their ideas are ridiculous. They don't want to be canceled on Twitter. The problem at its core is identity politics which is why they are existentially threatened my Coleman.
New viewer of the channel here. I have to say that I deeply admire Coleman's cool and calm disposition. He delivers thorough and well-fleshed out arguments all while making it abundantly clear that he strives to be intellectually honest and transparent. I think Mr. Hughes is destined for greatness.
The world needs his voice! From Canada, wishing you all the best Coleman!
"Feelings don't give you veto power."
Wow you're probably not the first to utter that phrase but its the first time I've heard my feelings on these matters expressed so simply and clearly.
As an older guy I always thought of it as "grow a skin" or "sticks and stones will break my bones...". I'll remember that one though.
My adage on the matter is that somewhere around your 3d year on this planet you stop using being offended as an argumentative.
It hits right at the point, veto power is a very powerful thing and merely having feelings you are uncomfortable with doesn't give you this awesome power.
His comment at the end is also right on: "This is what we would call working backwards from a conclusion." These people have feelings, conclude something must be wrong, then try to find anything which supports (only supports) the conclusion (confirmation bias).
The Left only pretends that "feelings give them veto power" when they disapprove of the things being said and they think an appeal to emotion will suffice as an excuse to shut down the debate. As Coleman illustrated, they could care less about hurting the feelings of some dude who escaped a communist dictatorship, but they pretend to care about the feelings of a person who might be triggered by the promotion of colorblindness. Really, they could care less about either thing, they only care about obtaining and maintaining power, and part of that is silencing dissent. They don't believe in free speech or diversity of opinion. They don't tolerate dissidence. They have no concrete principles in speak of. They are just a secular cult on a quest to obtain and maintain power, and that's becoming increasingly more obvious now that the capture of our institutions is near absolute. They don't have to hide their tyranny anymore. They have the power, and this makes them think they now have the right to be the arbiters of both truth and morality.
Indeed feelings do not grant such power.
So how do they have this veto power then?
This is the issue to get to the bottom of. Everything else is just there to waste your time and obfuscate where the orders come from.
But we all know the answer to that.
W - elcome
E - lon
F - ather of NWO gaslighting for fun and profit.
But we have two generations of kids not allowed outside or to work out conflicts in a healthy manner -- it's all "I'm triggered" and "my employer needs to be my mommy and protect me from the feelings I can't manage".
Coleman said a mouthful here: Their "inability to understand that being an adult is learning to take responsibility for your feelings instead of insisting that the world is responsible for not triggering you" is at the heart of this issue. Just look at Derald Wing Sue's concept of microaggressions. Contrast that concept with what Congnitive Behavioral Therapy prescribes. That simple comparison shows you the glaring inanity of woke ideas.
You can argue that the "woke" don't treat minorities as adults but venerated and fragile children. This needs to be recognised as a patronising and counter productive mindset.
@@williambrookings722I have seen it claimed that the second biggest predictor for woke views is being female. Your comment may have more to it than you state
I often point out that they are called "micro"aggressions for a reason.
Woe to the Woke: you strain at Gnats /micro-aggressions,
while swallowing a Camel /taking the Hump.
@@williambrookings722 all while treating children like they are adults that can consent to all sorts of things and have any inkling of idea of what the consequences for those decisions are.
You are always the voice of reason. Thank you, Coleman.
Thank you, Coleman. As a brown-skinned individual living in the EU, I find myself somewhat detached from the nuances of race-related discussions in the US. However, your clear and straightforward delivery has truly resonated with me, making it all the more surprising to see the extent of criticism directed at your messages. To me it's clear that class-based disadvantages demand class-based solutions. The shift towards affirmative action and reparations raises complex questions: where do we draw the line, and how do we determine a stopping point? For instance, considering the immense sacrifices of white individuals during the 1st and 2nd World Wars, would their descendants now be eligible for aid under similar logic? Your ability to maintain composure amidst these debates is admirable. Please continue to share your insights with such clarity and grace. God bless.
Coleman made a huge mistake on using the word Color Blindness and contrasting it with Racism in his book ... because those words are very trigerring to all sides of the debate in these day and age...... Its should have been Humane Policy against Poverty for all classes regardless of Race and gender....Humane Policy to serve Justice for all social classes, race and gender. The moment color, race, socialism, communism, affirmative action, gender discrimation, reparation etc gets mixed up in the conversation, you will be doing a disservice to the Equality and Justice Movement! Color Blindness title is a huge mistake because his main message realy all about Social Justice and Humane Treatment in society.
"Part of being an adult is taking responsibility for your feelings." THANK YOU!! I love these quotes: Aida Rodriguez: "Words hurt? So do uppercuts. Learn how to block!" and Candace Owens: "Life's tough. Get a helmet!"
I mean he's not a child, but considering that he's a 27 year old and dealing with people that are one, two or even three decades his senior that can't reach his level of maturity, is very telling of our time.
@@Ajax-wo3gt Absolutely! But unfortunately that shows how much of a problem this wokeness nonsense has become!
All bow down to your new masters, Pandemics,? Pah! A mind-numbing "Religious" and corrosive ideologic virus. The sundown of the Western world. I wonder how that would translate into "woke-speak" jargon?@@jaydeeh77
Yes, but Candace Owens is batshit crazy tho so there's that. I was with you until you quoted her.
"Part of being an adult is taking responsibility for your feelings." that should have been applied in other contexts too but parents are constantly excused for taking their anger, frustration out on their kids, given passes that they work hard
Thank you, Coleman, for your ongoing attempts to save America.
it is this kind of bs rhetoric about "saving america" that we do not need. We are arguing for a way we think is better, not more culture war bs.
Whoever "we" is, you are not arguing. You are suppressing discussion, and the free speech of those with whom you disagree, in order to wage a culture war. Coleman's TED talk was hidden from the public square by culture warriors intent on winning the debate without having to think. Coleman refuses to stand down, and I wanted to support him. @@itoibo4208
@@itoibo4208How is his attitude bs when we’re all under a video about how the left censors people who’s beliefs align with MLK? You don’t see the problem here? Or why people think America needs saving?
It’s funny how you’re so uncharitable to people like this commenter for supposedly causing division (they didn’t cause it), meanwhile many influential people on the left are actively coercing others into adopting their identity politics narratives or risk being labeled something defamatory. These are divisive narratives in and of themselves, literally dividing people up into categories and claiming that some groups are oppressing others. But I guess you’re too sympathetic to the left’s rhetoric to allow people (and the right) to complain about it, despite leftists being responsible for much of the division in today’s political landscape and functionally being against free speech huh?
@@itoibo4208well, it literally is when you have advocating communists here.
@@itoibo4208right, saving America from going down the negative path it's already on. Their use of the phrase was appropriate and hardly promoting anything extreme like you implied.
Cool , rational , and direct … great work Coleman
You are so rational. Thank you for fighting the good fight.
Coleman, you are a breath of fresh air, I truly admire your respect for facts, and respectful dialogue. Thank you 🙏
Coleman proves time over that he possess a keen ability to read, understand, and analyze studies and data. Too many people are given a soapbox to stand on, but don't even get the data right. They just "hand-wave" the perceived facts to make their points. Thanks to Coleman for being a voice of reason!
Pretty much Adam Grant is the epitome of such a windbag to educator. Maybe suitable for a run of the mill homeschool teacher but a completely embarrassment for the authority he and douchebag like him are given under this zeitgeist.
The forum has been dominated by fundamental dishonesty in the interest of the _sport_ for centuries. Read Arthur Schopenhaur's perhaps subtly satirical *Art of Controversy,* written in the early 1800s iirc, and you could easily mistake him for documenting 21st-century public discourse.
Btw is he really conservative? Or more centrist? How would Coleman describe himself?
No doubt you got sandbagged, but Coleman, you are being intellectually disingenuous when you maintain that Rev Dr Martin King’s position was one of color blindness. Why? Simple, because you know that his position was for full compensation for Blacks, something he referred to as redeeming an unpaid promissory note, something you refer to as “reparations.” It is therefore disingenuous for you to use King’s name to promote your colorblindness position when such was never a position held by King. Being judged and being paid are two wholly separate things, which you already know. QED
@@EbonyPope Even better, why not eschew labels and put the focus on good values and argument as exemplified above?
I love his clarity and truthfulness. Well done.
Coleman -- Fantastic response! Just by chance, I watched your initial video --- as well as your following response videos including this one. Impressive, to be sure. You have met TED's obvious corporate hypocrisy with sincerity and solid facts. You have pulled back the curtain on the attempts by TED and others to cloud the central issue. Taken collectively, your remarks and refutations should be seen as a textbook example of how to truthfully, methodically and respectfully confront misrepresentation and concealment. The validity and impact of your thoughtful remarks parallel that of a compelling oral argument before the US Supreme Court. Superb oratory! All the best, Dr. A
Hey Coleman, I’m back in college for a second degree in infosec 10 years later. I’m being forced to take several social science courses and I have to agree that it’s unbelievable to see what passes as rigor in these fields. The majority of the work we are being forced study is just strong ideological opinions being expressed as scientific fact. The “studies” we look at are often comically biased and full of baseline assumptions that are completely subjective. Anything that’s remotely political presents the state of the science as being a series of hyper woke beliefs. One class had Ibram Kendi as required reading. Keep in mind I’m in school for cybersecurity. Needless to say, I agree with your general take on the social sciences. I don’t think people realize how anti intellectual it all is.
Cyber science is woke?!?!?!?
@@shannoncoley7123 that field itself is not woke (yet) but the required social science courses for the degree are insufferably woke and useless
Yikes… Ibram kendi as required reading? *gags* 😵💫🤮 hell naw, did you read it or drop the class?
@@copiouscat there was another class that fulfilled the same requirement so I dropped it and switched. I wish I had the full list of required reading cause Kendi wasn’t even the worst.
Yes indeed.
YES, YES, YES! Once again, Coleman shows us wisdom, reason and maturity in his response.
Respect for you, Coleman.
👏👏👏 A debate with Adam Grant would be awesome! Thank you for sharing your logical viewpoints! Love it - finally - A breath of fresh air!!!
When they boo and hiss at you remember who they cheer for.
Coleman, you're just too rational for them. Keep up the good work.
Exactly, Coleman uses logic, they're using a faith based belief system.
It's so refreshing to hear such calm and reasoned takes and argument. I hadn't heard of you before this business but I'm turning into a big fan
You’re awesome 😊and exactly what your generation needs! Critical thinkers!
Thank you, Coleman. As a child of the 50s raised in a 'color blind' home, it's disheartening to witness our society making significant progress - all in the wrong direction😕
I hear you, I miss the 90s when my friends and I -- of different races -- were colorblind.
it seems the pendulum must swing, but arguments like Coleman's are hopefully seeing it swing back toward center.
Very fitting considering the grayscale pfp
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The leftist returned to them dixiecrats and a full 360 into a new reverse jim / jane crow
I wish you would come to my small university - i really feel that our young men & women NEED to hear you!
I heard about what happened to you, Coleman, I believe from the Boyscast. It was actually my introduction to you. You are wise and insightful, certainly a courageous person to stand against the crowd. Hopefully you’ll get more new subscribers, like me, from dealing with this propagandistic trick with grace.
Edit: I believe you will help lead a movement back toward unity.
I read your book and thought it was OUTSTANDING. Then I found your TED talk and loved that too. Thank you for your clear and thoughtful comments. And I think our society can learn so much from you and your calm respectful demeanor, especially when debating people who disagree with you. Reminds me a bit of Sam Harris. Well done Coleman! I've become a big fan of yours!
This is a great way to wrap this up. I for one am done with TED.
Agree.. Why keep responding to people who won’t acknowledge your point of view and only want to give out public lip service
Keep responding, because otherwise they win. They want you to keep quiet! I wouldn't give them what they want. I'd get louder and make them admit that they are wrong.
Hi Coleman, I came across you through the winds of the algorithm. I am greatful for your measured messaging and the required intelligence and education needed to have it. Understanding the criticisms of meta analysis, especially for the social sciences, can be very overwhelming for the uninitiated. I appreciate your breakdown to help people like me understand why these criticism of your work are not as genuine as they claim. I just ordered your book and am very much looking forward to the read. Keep up the great work!
Dude… I wish I had the eloquence and vocabulary in your left pinky finger… I couldn’t be more impressed with your logic and professionalism
These TED people are like trolls under a bridge. Love to see you stick up for yourself and not let these bullies get away with it. Al the while you remain cordial and mature.
I'm inspired by how maturely you're addressing this situation. Thanks for keeping us updated.
I just now saw your talk. I'm 55 years old and I've been saying basically the same thing for years! I just wasn't smart enough to come up with the "by class thing" when it comes to certain policies. I'm not denying that our world has racist people. It has, and still does.😔 Some people will never change, and it is sad. But Man! You're on to something GREAT! 😃 Your brilliance on this topic compelled me to buy your book, if simply for no other reason than to support you! I will explain how I've always felt. While our different races and cultures should be acknowledged and celebrated🥳, the color of our skin should be as insignificant as our eye color. We are ALL individuals and shouldn't be lumped in a group, and I don't just mean skin color either. There are good white people and bad white people, good black people and bad black people, good cops and bad cops, good preachers and bad preachers, good women and bad women, good men and bad men... the list goes on and on! I give each individual a fair shake so to speak. If your ideas caught on... it and YOU could change the world! 🌎 I applaud you young man for thinking outside of the box and daring to look for peace and harmony in this chaotic world we live in. May God bless your life.❤❤❤
Bravo Coleman. I have followed the entire fiasco on TED’s part. You are a heroic voice
Coleman, you are destined to become a voice for the new generations.
I kind of bummed that I only have one 'Like' to give this. This has several important high quality points.
The fact that the cause and effect is the same in the meta study is absolutely hilarious!
Love how thoughtful and articulate you are. Well done 👏
Fighting with TED is like going into the belly of the beast. Good on you!
Yup!
I lost all respect of TED talks the second they never offered an apology for allowing Elizabeth Holmes used their forum to spew lies and con more people out of money! TED talks: unethical junk!
Well stated, Coleman.
Right on, Coleman! I am inspired by your clarity of mind.
Stay true, measured and intelligently analytical Coleman. Incredibly sad that TED (once a good forum for intellectual discourse) has declined into a morass of fear, confusion and antagonism. You are 100% correct - "colour-blindness" is not only appropriate, but desperately needed. Maintain your perspective on this. It is absolutely correct.
Think about it, TED, like universities and colleges and the media whether social or mainstream media were each in their earlier days were not opposed to different ideas, opinions and conclusions and they were open to criticism whether they are constructive or not and it’s members were composed of people with different ideological beliefs, parties, faith and whatnot. Now, TED like the aforementioned universities and colleges and the media, social and mainstream are most likely led and run by people who are homogenous and fanatical in their political ideas, ideology , mindset that all other ideas that are different from their articles of faith, narratives, conclusions, opinions and outlook are deemed subversive, dangerous, evil and a danger to the Revolution and humanity that they needed to be censored, deplatformed and if that does not work, by any means necessary, destroy them which is not limited to imprisonment, assassination and murder and up to genocide.
His TED presentation about color blindness was a threat to the status quo and the people running TED made it certain that it will be hidden from public view .
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It appears that Chris naively thought he could both be what Ted used to be and also keep the black at Ted folks happy 🤷♂️
No doubt you got sandbagged, but Coleman, you are being intellectually disingenuous when you maintain that Rev Dr Martin King’s position was one of color blindness. Why? Simple, because you know that his position was for full compensation for Blacks, something he referred to as redeeming an unpaid promissory note, something you refer to as “reparations.” It is therefore disingenuous for you to use King’s name to promote your colorblindness position when such was never a position held by King. Being judged and being paid are two wholly separate things, which you already know. QED
7:00 Grant: "I'm really glad to see TED offering viewpoint diversity. We need more conservative voices." In what universe is Coleman's worldview "conservative"? Behold, MLK, the classic figure of conservatism!
In a room of communists the liberal becomes a traditionalist.
They consistently dog whistle were they stand politicly by the way they define their opposition while shifting the overton window.
Brilliant as always. Chris and Adam picked on the wrong guy this time!
Most of our social issues center around personal "lack of accountability" with regards to emotions. My Psychology Thesis was titled "Responsibility for Thought and Feeling" and most people do not like to hear that NOBODY or NOTHING can make you angry or happy. You CHOOSE the emotional association-end of discussion! Our language allows for the delusion of blame-"He/She made me mad" is a statement that will illicit the response of "what did he/she do?" instead of "why did you choose to be upset?". Big difference.....
Thank you, Coleman, for articulating so beautifully your final public statements on this whole, disappointing situation with TED. I so admire your critical thinking skills and your ability to express them so understandably.
How wise of you to be proactive in freeing yourself from this saga while still leaving the door open for more discussion with those involved. I appreciate your respectfulness toward others while also respecting yourself.
I want to be like you when I grow up❣😊
You are completely correct Coleman and they do owe you an apology. Please keep up your efforts to persuade the persuadable on this issue and others.
“Your feelings don’t give you veto power. End of story”. Brilliant Coleman 🎉. You’ve been gifted with brains & intellectual prowess most of your peers can’t comprehend. Yet, you do an amazing job bringing this to their level.
A measured, logical and great response to what has happened. These are the types of conversations that should be had, rather than grand standing, yelling and censorship.
Your eloquent and thoughtful words here give me hope. I was first introduced to you the other day through Glenn Loury’s channel (a favorite). They speak well of you often and the other day was my first time hearing you talk. I’ve gone down a rabbit hole of videos since. Looking forward to hearing more. You’re a voice of reason in a tumultuous time.
Even if the meta-analysis had been accurate it would, or should, have no bearing on whether or not your talk should be cancelled or suppressed. FWIW, I wrote to TED and let them know I wouldn’t be watching any more of its content.
Great idea. You just gave me a to do.
I tripped upon one of your interviews and have been hooked. Thank you for and continue to be a voice in the wilderness.
Thank you for speaking up. I wish there were more people like you.
I had this exact interaction years ago. Someone cited a critical theory paper in support of police bias, but it specifically said they were starting from an affirmative postion and were looking for narratives in support.
In sociology students are told to conduct research like that. I hate that you cannot just pose a question and conduct research to find the answer but instead have to propose a conclusion/hypothesis and try to prove it. It seems to lend itself to making bias insertion part of the process.
@@vlo4829 It's a short-sighted application of what works in fact-based sciences. A conclusion/hypothesis is meant to be provided and disproven, however even in those fact-based sciences the books are increasingly often cooked much less in borderline fake sciences such as modern social science.
Absolutely well said, Coleman. We need bright lights right now, and you're one of 'em!
When he says that half of social science studies are B.S. I think he's exactly right. I got an email that said that a Columbia University study found that 74% of Asian Americans had experienced hate or violence in the past year. I live in NYC. I showed it to a Chinese friend with a fairly extensive Asian social network and she was stunned and couldn't believe it. Neither do I.
Calm and collected, I enjoy watching you speak.
My primary issue with social sciences, especially sociology, has always been that those in the field have not been able to agree on a set of axioms that they all will consistently follow. That's why there are so many "bs" studies that you mentioned. The field itself is not self consistent and therefore, unscientific. This is because given the same set of acquired data, the data can be interpreted in any number of ways because there is no agreement on those axioms, or essentially, how the data should be analyzed correctly. Sure some of those in the field practice science in its purity, but even then, they and the whole field are still considered illegitimate if not a laughing stock from many in stem and even non-academics because of this fundamental issue. It's why I personally don't even acknowledge their field as a science at all. Because until those in their academic practice, those who represent and own that area of study, put aside their feelings and apply the scientific method as it was intended and thus agree on the axioms of the field, their "results", aka opinions are as valid as any other random person with no training nor thought put in.
Naomi Oreskes, the philosopher of science, wrote a seminal book called "Why Trust Science?" where she argues that science is to be trusted because the people who apply it thinks differently than one another while also being in dialog with one another. She tackles the issue that arises when you define science in a way that restricts ways of producing knowledge then that makes science less trustworthy. In some sense, she argues, in science "anything goes" as long as other people are allowed to evaluate it and think differently of it.
This is in stark contrast to your comment.
@@ZentarSo she's the boss of your thoughts on the subject?
@@lymphomasurvive No, she is not. Her argument is convincing, however.
@@Zentar The real problem in the sciences right now, which was mentioned in the video, is the replication crisis.
If you cannot replicate the findings of a social science study, then all you really have is a momentary poll that merely represents a snapshot in time - not true science.
Interpretation is one thing, and Oreskes may be right overall; biologists disagree whether to consider viruses alive or not as an example. The main thing is there's often no science involved in social science other than having it in the name.
@@lymphomasurvive Unconvincing.
The replication crisis that was invoked as an argument against the meta-analysis (which results supports Coleman btw) shows the lack of information competency surrounding science methodology. Meta-analysis address the issue of replication directly by pooling effect sizes (in this case over a hundred studies and over 200 effect sizes) to estimate the true effect of a phenomenon across many replications.
The replication crisis exists, but using it in this manner to fashion a cudgel that nullifies multiple scientific fields that might go against an argument in the future is nothing short of cheating oneself. At best it's overgeneralization, at worst it's deliberately dishonest.
Articulated in the calm and mature manner we've all come to expect from Coleman. Well done.
Did you just call Coleman "articulate"??
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Just a heads up and suggestion I wouldnt put a red box around the thumbnail because the bottom red bar of the box makes it appear as if you've already watched the video.
More power to you, Coleman. Voice of reason.....which is woefully out of fashion today.
I saw your talk on Ted. It was Stellar ! I even sent it to friends. Stay Strong. Thank you from Austin.
I agree with you Coleman, thank you for your voice.
Coleman might be the most eloquent and convincing speaker on CZcams. Hats off to you sir.
Keep up the great work Coleman!!
“TED’s staff” or “Black at TED”? I thought it was the latter, and I would expect nothing but immaturity and cry-bullying from any group so named.
I agree completely. A Black at TED group should not even have been seriously considered.
spoiler alert: there's no difference at woke(cowardly) TED.
I’ll never understand employee groups based on things like race or sexual orientation why would you even want to turn that one characteristic into a “thing” at work. Horrible idea. Wouldn’t join one if you paid me.
A black TED group? I thought we got rid of segregation?
Such a well thought out response which I believe the vast majority of reasonable people can get behind. Thank you!
You make so much sense Coleman. TED has lost its credibility. I will be reading your book.
Well said Coleman. Thank you for your continued voice of reason, clarity, and critical thought in this era of the modern Dark Ages!
Keep up the good work Coleman! You have a gift.
I found this to be a very interesting commentary on a debate that has had a few rounds and a few layers. I just wanted to say that (as an editor for several scholarly journals that I'm definitely not speaking on behalf of), there are some really huge crises that really inhibit the search for truth in academic literature, such that I'm really worried about the future of academia and intellectualism in general.
No doubt you got sandbagged, but Coleman, you are being intellectually disingenuous when you maintain that Rev Dr Martin King’s position was one of color blindness. Why? Simple, because you know that his position was for full compensation for Blacks, something he referred to as redeeming an unpaid promissory note, something you refer to as “reparations.” It is therefore disingenuous for you to use King’s name to promote your colorblindness position when such was never a position held by King. Being judged and being paid are two wholly separate things, which you already know. QED
Care to elaborate?
I hear you. As a researcher and guideline developer, I'm a huge Vinay Prasad fan.
Nailed it man. Stay strong.
love your analysis, always so insightful
So appreciate your thoughtfulness, on this and many other, topics.
Bravo! I'm really looking forward to your book!
Hell yes , Coleman , call them out on their BS every step of the way
And thanks for speaking out on it
You are the sole voice of reason in this entire controversy. God bless you for standing up for truth and justice.
"Life is trigering". Brilliant!
Thank you for the examples you set of critical thinking and constructive discussion.
I've just found some of your videos and have really enjoyed them as a reasonable exploration of a topic based on principles of fairness. This sealed the deal. Sub earned. Looking forward to see where you grow from here.
Hey Coleman! Great video. I do have one question though. Whose payroll are you on?
"Never argue with idiots. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Mark Twain (paraphrased)
I love your talk man. So articulate and cut through the BS of Grant's position
Thank you for your thoughtful and careful response to all the blather surrounding your TED Talk a month ago! Your reminder that social science studies are among the least reliable and most unreproducible types of scientific studies. (I'm reminded that studies in education fit right into that category, too!) I love Adam Grant's work. However, I was shocked at his response to your TED Talk! The only remedy is for him to publicly apologize and recant his weak analysis.
I first heard you on The Glenn Show. I thank Glenn Lower and John McWorter for their ongoing conversations. They are wonderful. They are humble, too! They have no trouble admitting when they might be wrong. They are great examples of how you can live in the public arena, have your opinions, and change them if needed! I have learned so much from them.
Not that it matters, but I'm certainly a liberal - a lefty. I'm sick and tired of the narrow and limiting views so many on the left continue to foist on us.
This dustup may help change the larger conversation about race!
Well said. Your voice is needed and we appreciate you.
Found you thru your appearance with Glenn Loury and John McWhorter, and so glad I did. You have a strong, reasoned voice, and it's a breath of fresh air in troubled times.
My favorite quote in our perilous public conversations is “studies show” that my argument is correct. But let’s not talk about the studies themselves, their definitions, methodologies, how they gather data, and the conclusions they draw from such data. Let’s also ignore all the other papers on the field that argue the opposite or better yet arrive at different conclusions from the same data.
Citing a single paper does not end a conversation but merely prolongs it because when it comes to science and even social science few things are settled. I’m not making a relativist argument but merely acknowledging that to discover concrete truth is a time consuming process that takes decades if not generations to solve.
Finally even if the scientific process arrives at a factual truth and understanding it does not in any way provide us with the requisite policy solutions. What we do with the information we uncovered in no way follows from said information.
_"What we do with the information we uncovered in no way follows from said information."_ Especially when there are vested interests involved.
"Studies show;" "meta-analysis...." = a cherry-picked series of flawed studies which, when piled one on top of the other in a "meta-analysis" is simply an aggregation of those flaws -- making the meta-analysis exponentially more flawed. Especially when they're outcome-based -- a conclusion in search of evidence to justify it.
I really used to appreciate TED. The trajectory of their talks over the past year and now this incredibly poor treatment of a clearly level-headed thought leader just make me sad that another great institution has dug it's own grave. I didn't know much about Adam Grant until now, but it's so incredibly obvious where he has thrown his lot.
Great response Coleman. It's clear who is in the wrong here. Keep up the great work.
Very well articulated Coleman.
What an inspiration he is to my generation.