Mine did this and I discovered when they were already 10years together with 2 kids. I shallowly escaped dipression and other associated ailments. I had to leave my marriage of 34years. He swore to keep the woman by all means. I felt betrayed, cheated and misused. I have forgiven them and moved on.
Once married always married. I don't want to leave my house I go and become statistics to another woman's house because that's what happens. You leave your husband of your youth you go and become somebody's mpango wa kando and there you have no say.
Waah me nikiletewa na odekea tu ana funzwa adabu kama Njogu wa Njoronge😅🤭 no shearing never, me a can't accommodate such nonsense, men you have one heart ♥ y share never🚮 andthen uletewe all type of diseases 🚮🚮
Aaiii mm nilishindwa kukaa. After 24yrs of marriage alileta msichana mdogo na 5yr old. Bwana hakuniongelesha for a long time. Aliweka huyo msichana kwa our marital home tulipokuwa tumejenga. I almost died juu ya stress nikaondoka juu ata aliniambia hanipendi. But Mungu ni nani huyo msichana alipata mimba ya mwanaume mwingine aliyekuwa akikuja kwa hio marital home wakaenda na yeye.
You are lucky mama! Kama hakukuletea any disease hiyo ndiyo wamama huogopa ! Ongea hiyo you help all women lakini usiongee hivyo you'll make ladies be confused. ndiyo watu wanauwawa ongea ukweli watu wakuelewe. Please!!!'
@@susankariuki1607 ukweli kabisa. Once trust is broken it's never the same again. Siku hizi ni kubaya juu it'll get worse and you might end up killing each other. Infact we were close as i got threats of being killed and thats why i left
@@janemburu6929 woii,pole sana.May Almighty God continues to give you courage to move on.Remember Your Ex Nda gakoma mbiriraini atacaite,uguo agucaithirie..
I come from a polygamy family snd i found my parents all living in harmony and even us children. Surprisingly enough my half Sister and Brother treated my mom so well at her Old age. I respected my Dad gir balancing his equations and treating all his family with loving kindness. Again ,its all depends on the family protocol But if our men can be ooen from fay one,l feel this could help alot instead of surprises. Blessings
the problem of Kikuyu woman hamutaki ukweli that why muna uoa ma mbwana kwani kuolewa bibi ya pili kuna shinda gani wchana na mzee akitaka kuowa aowe don't kill someone son bona kabila zingine hasina shida na kuolewa bibi wengi
Married for 36years but l don't agree with your advice. Imagine your husband puting you at risk of getting sexually transmitted diseases, h.i.v and cervical cancer. What can say about that?.
According to the Bible Exodus 21:10 " If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights" And 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
Women should stop defending and advocating for men and their polygamous behaviours!! This coaches should be teaching fellow women and young girls on how to love and value themselves, work hard in school get jobs and become independent women so they won't have to depend on men! Because once you are independent you wont entertain being in a polygamous marriages@ Wakiama and @ Monica kagoni. People should marry because of love ❤️ not social status money, Education, light skin, hagas etc which is why most people get married in African societies....Happily married couples don't have time for polygamy. But if you marry the wrong person you will always be looking outside what is lacking at home. LET THE COACHES FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS TO HEAL POLYGAMY NOT ADVOCATING PERIODT!!
@@COUNSELOR_WANJIRU_KIAMAissue here is not indepence! However, if both parties are independent they will be marrying for the roght reasons!marriage is for two people, and needs to be worked on from both parties! If you marry the right one things roll smoothly without need for polygamy, but as we know most of our african sisters and brothers marry for the wrong reasons, as mentioned above juu ya pesa, yellow yellow, hagas and all kinds of things that CANNOT sustain a marriage hence polygamy iko juu in the african societies! Ukioa ama uolewe na kufuniko ya mwingine you'll never be happy na utahangaika uko nje ukitafuta yako!
Wanaume wakulala wataleta magonjwa kama cancer virusus HIV@aids nazinginezo. I think it should be discussed at courtship so that there are no suprises.
Even if you leave that man there is no guarantee the second will be faithful, you might end marrying several men in the name of looking for the faithful one.
Wakiama I love you but today I disagree with your advice 😃 it's like you are okay with polygamous marriages which is contrary with the word of God 🥺....what I get is that you are advocating for peace of the first wives but you should be against this marriages coz you're a believer not advocating for those marriages .
Men hizi si kama siku za zamani when polygamy used to work reason being hakukuwa na diseases etc Kama ni lazima uhanye protect yourself usiletee bibi diseases
Why do Africans glorify polygamy yet the bible condemn adultery? God's standards will never change neither will his principles! Kagoni you're very right it's actually making them gods..and failing to understand your worth in God as a woman!
Our forefathers married many wives but the first wife used to suggest the 2nd wife and so on but wa saa hii men are marrying without their first wife knowledge. Why don't they start from sratch with 2nd or 3rd wives just like the first wife?
I disagree with her wat abt STI's,I better raise my kids alone than being with a cheater.She was my Kiswahili teacher in High School &I totally disagree with her, sitaki kuacha my kids with pain just because of a man.
True this counselors are misleading people! They have nothing to tell people! Why is she on the side of men? Does she knows how evil men have done to their wives and children! Do not pretend you don’t know men! Many women have gone through all kind of evil. Hear what she is narrating about a man who had aids! It’s as if it’s homa which comes and go.
This is good counseling. However you are wrongly suggesting that multiple wives are sin. The Bible has confirmed the validity of multiple wives in marriage. But Roman and English cultures through which Christianity was propelled were embedded in Christian believes.
This is not literal interpretation..that 7 women getting married to one man. But false doctrines, all wanting the name of Christ..all they want is his name,but practice their cultures,customs and doctrines. If the couple 💑 is Christian, this is adultery and that is enough ground for divorce.
What about several mipango ya kado. There is a higher risk of mgojwa than when there is one co wife. You ladies are living in denial. That is the first stage of mourning.
@@franciskarumba5353 but y must you cheat?must you marry again?what is this you are looking for?will you get it all in the second or you'll need a third and fourth?c watu watosheke...
This creatures are polygamous by nature,me I used to admire a friend's marriage, only to realise that he had another wife and two kinds.If he happens to get another kamtu somewhere, just ensure that you get the lion's share and assume you know nothing for the sake of your peace.
Believe me not, God is God, there is nothing he can't do, Ata ahanye aje, just stand strong, and have faith in him, you can't be infected, we serve a justice God.
Seriously this is misleading women. In this time and age no woman should have to settle for less than what they deserve. a man that knows and understands thyself and being led by God, no way can he marry two wives. Marry one that you love and take good care of her. This lady is from our mothers generation where women took any crap from men because they did not have a choice and had many children, so they had to vumilia. A woman who knows herself, values herself and have resources will not entertain such. But if she doesn't have resources, she will vumilia but she will be emotionally damaged and her self esteem will be at the Roch bottom. It's not the nature of things nor the will of God for marriage so it can never be right! Stop misleading this young generation. Instead teach them to work on themselves so that they can make a marriage work!!
Better not take her advice. She needs advice herself on what God requires. Christian's number one devotion should be God. Do not deify a man. The truth is if this happens to a Godly woman, she will need Godly wisdom to decide whether to stay or leave. And I believe no two cases are the same. He might lead one to stay and another to leave. That is a choice you totally will need to make by God's help. But it should be said polygamous marriage is not an ideal to be accepted easily. They can be very painful.. Bible also says about one who follows a blind person, both end up in a ditch. Your husband can be the blind one and you blindly follow him to a pit(of sickness, of putting your faith aside, etc). If we are believers let us believe God. For believers, nothing is too difficult for God and He makes all things to work out for good to those who love him and those called according to his purposes. Whether he leads you to stay or leave, he will make all things to work out for good.
Women are bitter here today eti atakuletea Aids eti ooo. Marriage is not ya watu wa roho nyepesi n thats why it's through thick n thin. What if ukiondoka alafu upate hiyo ugojwa nje coz no disease is promised where you'll contract it? Utatoka kwa hiyo nyumba uolewe kwingine n if that 2nd cheats you will leave him again n continue with the cycle just coz of your ego,,, or coz you're a woman??. If your married traditionally am church please vumilia coz God knows everything well.
Mine did this and I discovered when they were already 10years together with 2 kids. I shallowly escaped dipression and other associated ailments. I had to leave my marriage of 34years. He swore to keep the woman by all means. I felt betrayed, cheated and misused. I have forgiven them and moved on.
Once married always married. I don't want to leave my house I go and become statistics to another woman's house because that's what happens. You leave your husband of your youth you go and become somebody's mpango wa kando and there you have no say.
The only problem I have is how men treat their first wives when they get other wives.
Mwarimû ndendetekuria Muruguru. My daughter loved her teaching Kiswahili and got a B Keep on the Spirit.
Waah me nikiletewa na odekea tu ana funzwa adabu kama Njogu wa Njoronge😅🤭 no shearing never, me a can't accommodate such nonsense, men you have one heart ♥ y share never🚮 andthen uletewe all type of diseases 🚮🚮
Aaiii mm nilishindwa kukaa. After 24yrs of marriage alileta msichana mdogo na 5yr old. Bwana hakuniongelesha for a long time. Aliweka huyo msichana kwa our marital home tulipokuwa tumejenga. I almost died juu ya stress nikaondoka juu ata aliniambia hanipendi. But Mungu ni nani huyo msichana alipata mimba ya mwanaume mwingine aliyekuwa akikuja kwa hio marital home wakaenda na yeye.
How did it end with the man now?
@@polinegichuki530 He is alone now juu siwezi rudi. 3yrs now but alitaka nirudi nikashindwa juu i'll never be happy again.
You are lucky mama! Kama hakukuletea any disease hiyo ndiyo wamama huogopa ! Ongea hiyo you help all women lakini usiongee hivyo you'll make ladies be confused. ndiyo watu wanauwawa ongea ukweli watu wakuelewe. Please!!!'
@@susankariuki1607 ukweli kabisa. Once trust is broken it's never the same again. Siku hizi ni kubaya juu it'll get worse and you might end up killing each other. Infact we were close as i got threats of being killed and thats why i left
@@janemburu6929 woii,pole sana.May Almighty God continues to give you courage to move on.Remember Your Ex Nda gakoma mbiriraini atacaite,uguo agucaithirie..
Nimenotice wanjiru ako smart sana kama amesuka nywele anakaa kairetu ga seveni
The counselor is misleading women and encouraging men to be unfaithful in marriage
Imagine
That's your opinion and it's valid. I can't encourage unfaithfulness.
Yes true 🎉 Mrs Kiama, wakwa ndathondekire ona ndari ho! And am telling you it worked just like you've said there.
Respectful and unfaithful simultaneously ??? Man created selfish??? They are to be excused 😏😏unable to speak
Shocked as well
Wa Kiama reads the Bible. Let her explain Jesus’ words- Unless for Unfaithfulness. Men also need to live in God’s ways
This information really blessed me, thank you 🙏
Mrs Kiama was one of my primary school teacher at Moi Nyeri Complex primary class of 2002. Wow.
Thanks for adding me a new strength
I come from a polygamy family snd i found my parents all living in harmony and even us children. Surprisingly enough my half Sister and Brother treated my mom so well at her Old age. I respected my Dad gir balancing his equations and treating all his family with loving kindness.
Again ,its all depends on the family protocol
But if our men can be ooen from fay one,l feel this could help alot instead of surprises.
Blessings
Point of collection
For balancing.....
......can be open from day one....
Wa Kiama,learning alot,your looking good.
Never! my ego does not allow this I better quit.
Wakiama,nii nindiraregana muno na athuri aria mahikagia atumia aingi makiria ihinda riri turi.Ningi onakoruo nioka thutha kwira mutumia wambere,hairier kihoto Tondu iyo ni betrayal!Mundu ni mundu,niaguaga uru Tondu nderitwo kiambiriria niakahikiririo.Thimo ya gikuyu yugaga ati atumia eri ni nyungu ya urogi,na muno micii iyo kaingi ndiri gikeno.Athuri nimaikare omundu na mutumia uria athurire kiambiriria, Tondu atumia othe nimahanaine !
the problem of Kikuyu woman hamutaki ukweli that why muna uoa ma mbwana kwani kuolewa bibi ya pili kuna shinda gani wchana na mzee akitaka kuowa aowe don't kill someone son bona kabila zingine hasina shida na kuolewa bibi wengi
Married for 36years but l don't agree with your advice. Imagine your husband puting you at risk of getting sexually transmitted diseases, h.i.v and cervical cancer. What can say about that?.
According to the Bible Exodus 21:10 " If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights" And 2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
Monica I love you Bure gal.wewe hutuulizia maswali zilizo moyo mwetu.keep going gal.may God keep smiling at you ka Mami .
Nice. atii tuhuane nderi turoragere Twi iguru. natuhoe ngai atuhe grace tuhoyagire athuri aitu.
Wa kiama always the best.Eagerly waiting for the next topic.Monicah your topic selection is on a high notch.APPRECIATED.
Women should stop defending and advocating for men and their polygamous behaviours!! This coaches should be teaching fellow women and young girls on how to love and value themselves, work hard in school get jobs and become independent women so they won't have to depend on men! Because once you are independent you wont entertain being in a polygamous marriages@ Wakiama and @ Monica kagoni. People should marry because of love ❤️ not social status money, Education, light skin, hagas etc which is why most people get married in African societies....Happily married couples don't have time for polygamy. But if you marry the wrong person you will always be looking outside what is lacking at home. LET THE COACHES FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS TO HEAL POLYGAMY NOT ADVOCATING PERIODT!!
It's the women to understand why they get into marriage. They should avoid marriage if they feel very independent and are above their husbands.
@@COUNSELOR_WANJIRU_KIAMAissue here is not indepence! However, if both parties are independent they will be marrying for the roght reasons!marriage is for two people, and needs to be worked on from both parties! If you marry the right one things roll smoothly without need for polygamy, but as we know most of our african sisters and brothers marry for the wrong reasons, as mentioned above juu ya pesa, yellow yellow, hagas and all kinds of things that CANNOT sustain a marriage hence polygamy iko juu in the african societies!
Ukioa ama uolewe na kufuniko ya mwingine you'll never be happy na utahangaika uko nje ukitafuta yako!
Nice one. Ask our mum wa Kiama to enlighten us (ladies) more on how to stay pure before marriage even after 35
Ni urimu
...times have changed.
Wanaume wakulala wataleta magonjwa kama cancer virusus HIV@aids nazinginezo.
I think it should be discussed at courtship so that there are no suprises.
Even if you leave that man there is no guarantee the second will be faithful, you might end marrying several men in the name of looking for the faithful one.
Good advice, but shida nukuvumilia na kuletewa ugonjwa
Very very wise . Pls endelea kuleta wa kiama. 1:1 counseling tunaweza shindwa kwenda.
Me I am learning a lot.
Monica, this lady is misleading women.
How?
Ukikosoa, please share your advise that won’t mislead.
Tabitha, I hear you but disagree with your unfair comment.
Kwani bwana ni njia ya mbinguni😏
My question too😏😏
Ndio nashangaa
Nice smart ladies ,your episodes are so educative.
Wakiama I love you but today I disagree with your advice 😃 it's like you are okay with polygamous marriages which is contrary with the word of God 🥺....what I get is that you are advocating for peace of the first wives but you should be against this marriages coz you're a believer not advocating for those marriages .
Men hizi si kama siku za zamani when polygamy used to work reason being hakukuwa na diseases etc
Kama ni lazima uhanye protect yourself usiletee bibi diseases
Hahahahaaaaaa! Wakiama always a vibe.
Ni "ngurara" kana "nguraro"? I think mùndù oigaga mùndù "niagurarite" kana ari na "nguraro".... the discussion I am bringing is on "kùgurara".
Very nice keep it up please talk about the women in diaspora
Why do Africans glorify polygamy yet the bible condemn adultery? God's standards will never change neither will his principles! Kagoni you're very right it's actually making them gods..and failing to understand your worth in God as a woman!
This was meant for me..thanks 😊
Our forefathers married many wives but the first wife used to suggest the 2nd wife and so on but wa saa hii men are marrying without their first wife knowledge.
Why don't they start from sratch with 2nd or 3rd wives just like the first wife?
I disagree with her wat abt STI's,I better raise my kids alone than being with a cheater.She was my Kiswahili teacher in High School &I totally disagree with her, sitaki kuacha my kids with pain just because of a man.
Tell her ooh
Nikii mwitigirite kūhikiririo uguo,ona maithe maitu matene nimahikagia atumia aingi nagutiari bible nanimatuire,Then another thing wakikuyu muache kujipenda bina kabila zingine huwa hawa complain,bwana akiona 2,3 wives
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Team BMS kudos.
Marriage needs wisdom
Wakiama ad monica ♥ God blzz u nice topic,
What about those who don't provide but they want to marry at your expense.
Even me when I did my ngurario my husband married after two months.
That could only be an accident. He needs sympathy and love.
True this counselors are misleading people! They have nothing to tell people! Why is she on the side of men? Does she knows how evil men have done to their wives and children! Do not pretend you don’t know men! Many women have gone through all kind of evil. Hear what she is narrating about a man who had aids! It’s as if it’s homa which comes and go.
Who said men are God ! Tell me where in the Bible where a mare man is God? Iti makoragwo me Ngai maybe another Bible not the one I read .
My own husband did what you read on the media, now 18 yrs down the and I'm not a lesser woman.
This is good counseling. However you are wrongly suggesting that multiple wives are sin. The Bible has confirmed the validity of multiple wives in marriage. But Roman and English cultures through which Christianity was propelled were embedded in Christian believes.
Can someone read Isaiah 4:1 please and interprete for us.
Would love to understand more deeper
It's about 7 wives and 1 hubby.
This is not literal interpretation..that 7 women getting married to one man.
But false doctrines, all wanting the name of Christ..all they want is his name,but practice their cultures,customs and doctrines.
If the couple 💑 is Christian, this is adultery and that is enough ground for divorce.
Its true i have wawaka in nanyuki town she recieved her husband
She has contradicted herself. If you claim that we are fully of mugiriga, then polygamy is ok since in Kikuyu polygamy was ok.
He ll come intact yes....how abt this bad illnesses that cn come along with his dirty bhvr. Try n b reasonable pls wen giving wrong advice
What about several mipango ya kado. There is a higher risk of mgojwa than when there is one co wife. You ladies are living in denial. That is the first stage of mourning.
@@franciskarumba5353 but y must you cheat?must you marry again?what is this you are looking for?will you get it all in the second or you'll need a third and fourth?c watu watosheke...
Mungu ndio hutulinda ata mwenye Hana 2nd wife anahanya huko nje
Mutumia uyu ewana
Extreme outdated advice.
Wakiama hapa sikubaliani kabisa
Mimi nilijua after kujifungua ati kuna mwingine alikuwa na mtoto wa age ya wangu 😢 😢
Men are very stupid
Ukafanya nini
@@dianamliwa5832 it's a long story
Wakiama tuko sana
Marriage is for 2 people only. WaKiama stop encouraging ladies to be okay with the 2nd wife. Today I have disagreed with you.
This creatures are polygamous by nature,me I used to admire a friend's marriage, only to realise that he had another wife and two kinds.If he happens to get another kamtu somewhere, just ensure that you get the lion's share and assume you know nothing for the sake of your peace.
First wife is like first born , knows how to deal with alot ,second wife is like last born you have to pamper her, spoil , throw tantrum not easy
Can wait
Mm naweza sema mtu kama anaweza fumilia,is ok lakini mwanaume kukuletea mwanamke niuchungu but utafanya nini fumilia,too uta fanya nini?
Really!know ur worth gal,kuvumilia nn na mwanaume si Mungu
yu are doing a good job 👏, but God can bless a man with a second wife .even there are people who had been prophesied and it's happen.
You can marry as you wish,but every evil you do to another person under the sun,take it as a loan. You will pay with interest
Not boarding
Same here
What about diseases
What would you advise girls who are planning to become a second wife
I'd advice them not to choose that path. That's me tho.
Let them 1st meet with the 1st wife n have that discussion
What about sexuallly transmitted diseases like HIV &Aids???
Believe me not, God is God, there is nothing he can't do, Ata ahanye aje, just stand strong, and have faith in him, you can't be infected, we serve a justice God.
@joyce the Bible clearly states be wise and allows divorce on adultery basis....many have been infected because of this kind of thinking
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Gìtonga kìu gìacharagia mùtumia mùgìkùyù atùìke mùtumia wa gatatù nokìracharia, asking for a friend
😄 🤣 😂
Hi 👋👋👋 monicah kagoni
Sio poa 2 wives
These feminist councilors are the downfall of young women lol thanks God I don't have a daughter.
Camping here waiting
What if this lady is the second one?
🤔🤔
Nonsense
Mimi ni victim nilinunuliwa shamba mbali na wazazi kumbe bwana yangu alienda akaoa na akanitoa kwa boma yangu nasikuwahi muuliza na wamezaa.
🤔🤔sasa mko wawili juu nimeona wanaume sikuizi wameamua
Mm nilichidwa kufumilia hiyo...mateso..nauchungu kiora ruga
Seriously this is misleading women. In this time and age no woman should have to settle for less than what they deserve. a man that knows and understands thyself and being led by God, no way can he marry two wives. Marry one that you love and take good care of her.
This lady is from our mothers generation where women took any crap from men because they did not have a choice and had many children, so they had to vumilia.
A woman who knows herself, values herself and have resources will not entertain such. But if she doesn't have resources, she will vumilia but she will be emotionally damaged and her self esteem will be at the Roch bottom. It's not the nature of things nor the will of God for marriage so it can never be right! Stop misleading this young generation. Instead teach them to work on themselves so that they can make a marriage work!!
Mum you are misleading women sorry to say
Secondly In Christianity, Jesus is Son of God and not a prophet That’s for Muslims.
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Translate to kiswahili or English
Me ineed more advice
Better not take her advice. She needs advice herself on what God requires. Christian's number one devotion should be God. Do not deify a man. The truth is if this happens to a Godly woman, she will need Godly wisdom to decide whether to stay or leave. And I believe no two cases are the same. He might lead one to stay and another to leave. That is a choice you totally will need to make by God's help. But it should be said polygamous marriage is not an ideal to be accepted easily. They can be very painful.. Bible also says about one who follows a blind person, both end up in a ditch. Your husband can be the blind one and you blindly follow him to a pit(of sickness, of putting your faith aside, etc). If we are believers let us believe God. For believers, nothing is too difficult for God and He makes all things to work out for good to those who love him and those called according to his purposes. Whether he leads you to stay or leave, he will make all things to work out for good.
My techa muruguru girls
There's no prblms wth that Haaaa
Women are bitter here today eti atakuletea Aids eti ooo. Marriage is not ya watu wa roho nyepesi n thats why it's through thick n thin. What if ukiondoka alafu upate hiyo ugojwa nje coz no disease is promised where you'll contract it?
Utatoka kwa hiyo nyumba uolewe kwingine n if that 2nd cheats you will leave him again n continue with the cycle just coz of your ego,,, or coz you're a woman??. If your married traditionally am church please vumilia coz God knows everything well.
Ts not a must you get married ama uwe na huyo mwanaume you don live because of a man,unaeza ishii peke yako