ALPHARIUS OMEGON: I AM ALPHARIUS, THIS IS A LIE | Warhammer 40k Lore
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Alpharius Omegon, also known as the "Aleph Null," "The Hydra," the "Threefold Serpent," "The Final Configuration" and the "Last Primarch," was one of the twenty primarchs created by the Emperor of Mankind in the earliest days of the Imperium of Man, just after the end of the Age of Strife in the 30th Millennium. In truth, Alpharius Omegon was actually a pair of identical twin brothers, one named Alpharius and the other Omegon.
Of all the primarchs of the Legiones Astartes, Alpharius was without a doubt the most steeped in mystery, legend, contradiction and deliberate falsification. The primarch of the Alpha Legion shrouded himself in mystery, often moving unseen even amongst the ranks of his own Legion.
However, when the time came to cast off the cloak of misdirection, Alpharius was as awe-inspiring a being as any of his brother primarchs. Clad in armour forged in the manner of some terrifying beast of ancient Terran myth and armed with a fearsome panoply of weapons of unknown provenance, Alpharius bestrode the battlefield like a figure from legend. - Zábava
As intro says, there was an issue with recording so bricky is a bit echo-y, sorry about that. We figured out what the issue was but only after finishing the recording :(
Honestly I didn’t even notice until you mentioned it.
I went into the comments to see if it was just me noticing
Thanks Shy, you're secret MVP
Yknow Shy it honestly fits for the topic
Bricky ! For the GODS SAKE! Britain is England, Scotland, Wales all sepreate countries! Its the English you want to wind up!
You might think I gave an echo.
This is a lie.
That is actually my twin Brickegon.
I am Brickarius
I too am Brickegon
I three am Brickegon
I four am Brickegon
Sounds like the literal voice of a heretic!
Alpharius is Gork whereas Omegon is Mork
One is Chaos but Loyalist but the other is Loyalist but Chaos
STENGEHEIM
Yay
Perfekt.
Yes....Just...Yes.
Oh... god... makes so much sense.
I believe Alpharius is Loyalist, for me that makes the most sense. I believe he was raised by Malcador, that he was actually okay towards humans. I believe Omegon might be a Traitor, the one who met Horus, gained great reactions from Horus. I believe that most of the Alpha Legion do not know the sole purpose of Omegon and Alpharius, and that they secretly work towards both prophecies at the same time. I believe that Dorn killed Omegon, because Omegon was never as trained as Alpharius, never as Stealthy, Alpharius would not have fought Dorn. I believe that some of this, is a lie.
that is how I think about Alpharius and Omegon, in the short story The board is set. Only Alpharius & Omegon's Loyalty is uncertain.
That ending was poetic
I suspect this was a choice they both agreed on. The prophecies for them never said what would happen if only one become a traitor. I don't think they were lying when they decided to kill Chaos. I suspect O had more interaction with the Alpha Legion, and most of the legion followed him into Chaos.
@@FinalRepublic loophole! The prophecy didn't know there were 2!
Yes. Hydra Dominatus.
DK: "I feel more confused after learning everything than I did before we started."
Alpha Legion: "Mission Accomplished."
Yes
Hydra Dominatus!!!!!
“Perturabo is a complex and interesting character.”
IW fans: Yes.
“Perturabo is a petulant man child.”
IW fans: Yes.
Also depends on whos writing him tbh.
Correct
I was just thinking how there's no Iron Warrior fan who hears Bricky shit on Perturabo and not agree with him, but also recognizes that he was one of the traitors actually getting shit done.
@@Phe0niz The Iron Warriors carried the heresy, without them Horus never would have reached E Money.
@@Phe0niz He’s the one traitor Primarch who doesn’t have a huge tragic fall. It’s much more mundane, and it makes him a much more recognizable figure.
My favorite Alpha Legion quote: "You could know everything about everything, but how do you know what you know is true?"
The greatest epistemological philosophers in existence
Could I offer you a little bit of everything all of the time?
@@theabomb8305 a little bit of everything all of the time
you test against the future, if you can predict the future every time by what you know, then what you know is true enough.
Sounds like a destiny 1 story line
My favorite quote from the book:
“Congratulations on your promotion”
“My lord?”
“You’re Alpharius now”
Who happened to later impersonate Omegon who impersonated Alpharius who was killed by Dorn.
@@ThatGuyUpThere wtf did i just read
@@catalintimofti1117 excatly
I am Alpharius and so can you!
You’re Alpharius, you’re Alpharius, look under your chairs, you’re all Alpharius !
It's my headcanon that the Deathwatch is positivity crawling with Alpha Legion infiltrators
"Oh, there's a giant pseudo-chapter that accepts marines from anyone? Sounds like a great place to learn about every chapter, the Inquisition, and the general state of the Imperium all at the same time"
That's my current plan for a deathwatch army that way I can use them for basic troops for both armies
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i've never thought about that and its perfect! Great concept!
Everyone in the Deathwatch is an Alpha Legionnaire and they each think the rest of regular Deathwatch and thus it is all going to plan cuz the cover remains intact.
@@SWProductions100 I prefer the version where they would raise them at each other. None of them knowing that the entire company is full of sleeper agents
Play alpha legion:
Strategically Lose on purpose:
Say All according to plan: then shake your new allies hand and congratulate him on both your victories.
Opponent plays Tzeench, also tries to "strategically" loose on purpose
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z confuse the crap out of everyone witnessing it, which is the actual target.
@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 Carl is watching. Carl is tired and goes to the bathroom. Left his wallet onthe table. Steal his wallet. *All according to plan*
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z If Tzeentch didn’t love Magnus and his magic so much, the Alpha Legion would have been a great Tzeentch Legion with the level of convoluted schemes and infiltrations they pull
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z The main point of the Alpha legion is to force a stalemate so that the other legions can finish the work while Tzeentch is trying to figure out wtf is going on.
"guys you don't understand, we are only chaos ironically"- Alpha Legion
It’s Ironic I Swear!!
Chaotically loyal or loyally chaotic?
”It’s just a prank bro!”
_"Guys you don't understand-"_
"I thought that was the point?"
Then how come you gunned down our dreadnoughts
Guilleman: Alpharius! Stop destabilizing governments and using trickery
Alpharius: But I didn’t, it was omegon
Guilleman: Who is Omegon?
Some random Alpha Legionnaire: I am. Or am I?
Michael from Vsauce from the Alpha Legion: what if I was Alpharius?
No! I am.
@@CygnusTheSilly "Hey Guillauman" *teleports next to Guillauman* "Michael here... Where is your father?"
@@thatboy5751Actually, I’m Alpharius.
(This is a lie)
"in the giant block of gold the size of denmark"@@Sir_Bucket
This is worst than you think, Alpharius can make a potion with his blood that, when drank by an alpha legionaire, gives him the memories of Alpharius and make him grow a bit bigger. They don't just say "I'm Alpharius", they actually believe they are Alpharius
This is a lie
@@cyber_jam this works so incredibly well because I can't tell if your lying about it being a lie for the sake of lying or if it truly is a lie and you your accusation is not a lie
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie." "But this is only my own record, and all records lie."
This is why I love the Alpha Legion
"Every part is true and I swear that if one word is false, then they all are."
- Malik el Sami yn Nasser "Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad"
That means it is alpharius
I am alpharius
@@alpharius6909 hi tzeench
@@legiohysterius4624 I am not omegon!
**somewhere in the warp**
*Tzeentch listening to the podcast**
Tzeentch: WTF IS GOING ON???!!!
All of this was his plan all along
Tzeentch: I almost didn't expect that.
Tzeentch: that’s what I would’ve said, if I didnt come up with this incredibly simple plan to lower the Emperor’s standards to play Yu-Gi-Oh with me.
@@Skeletor_the_Bigg deck dysentery
I am absolutely convinced the Alpha Legion makes Tzeentch rock hard.
So, regarding the prophecy, Alpharius and Omegon just went full on Kain and said: "suppose you throw a coin enough times, suppose one day it lands on it's edge"
Pretty much. If there are two ways for the future to happen, as the prophecy said, and there are coincidentally two men, they can play both futures at the same time. What now?
This is why I love Alpha Legion; the entire galaxy is tearing itself apart, and the XXth is out there playing 5D chess to keep themselves busy.
I'm not convinced that the Alpha Legion hasn't lost track of things by this point, so that in 40k not even the Alpha Legion knows if they are traitors or loyalists.
@@TheSchultinator I imagine it’s Alpha Legion standard to just… never ask, and just assume you’re on the [right] side
@@TheSchultinator The Emperor is a cheeky fuck and he made the chess pieces that he let the chaos powers have, so he cheats
@@TheNaturalnuke Right side, wrong side, left side, Westside, what's the difference?
@@TheSchultinator I think Alpha Legion just doesn't care what side they're on. They're the ultimate sleeper cell. They don't get told "Go pretend to be chaos, and then in 100 years you activate and we turn on them." They just get told "You're chaos now." and they go and join chaos. However, because they're 110% duplicitous, they have no loyalty to any creed or faction, so if you then come back to those guys 1000 years later and say "Good job, now you're loyalist again." they'll switch sides without questioning. The demonic mutations might make blending in harder, but what's life without a little challenge.
"He's Alpharius. He's Alpharius. He's Alpharius! I'M ALPHARIUS! *Are there any other Alpharius I should know about!?"*
-Omegon, disguised as Alpharius
I am not Alpharius *puts on hat and leaves* -Alpharius
We are alpharius
We are Alpharius.
@@Pink.andahalf this one is alpharius
We are Alpharius.
" Rogal Dorn's massive fucking chainsword. " *Sigh*... well now I have to say it.
*ROGAL DORN'S COLOSSAL CHAINBLADE-*
*ROGAL* *DORNS* *MASSIVE* *EVISCERATOR* (that is a fair bit weaker than a psieviscerator)
I’m decently sure I know what spliced series of images you are referring to.
@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 Just look up " Rogal Dorn's Colossal Chainblade. " It's a dank WH40K post read by SuperAnchors, the voice of Rogal Dorn from TTS. I think it's from the " Dank WH40K reddit" thing.. Idk, I don't use Reddit and stuff, but I think that's where it started.
"He took my head. I took him everything except his hand"
- Alpharius
TOO WEIGHTY FOR ANYTHING BUT AN ELITE SISTERHOOD RAISED FROM INFANCY TO ADORE THE LEVIATHAN AT HIS DISPOSAL
My headcannon is that whenever dorn killed Alpharius, or Omegon, the soul left that body and returned to its other half, so Alpharius-Omegon is now whole again. So neither Alpharius or Omegon are dead, instead have become a single primarch together. Would really play into the whole "We are One" thing.
I like this. A variation off this. If the Demi-primarchs can become a full Primarch by injecting at least one half of their Primarch’s soul.
Alternatively, the soul went into a random Alpha Legion marine, which then boosted that marine's physical attributes, and also gets the memories.
If that worked.. why didn't one of them commit suicide much earlier?
Or they possessed one of the non-alpharius alpharius marines, because why not!
In my head canon, alpharius and omegon bridge the gap between main canon and "The Roubutian Heresy".
My favorite Alpha Legion bit is in their section of the CSM codex.
A Chaos Lord claiming to be Alpharius was raiding some star system, so the High Lords dispatched a bunch of Vindicare Assassins to deal with them. They assassinated a bunch of Lords all claiming to be Alpharius, but the raids didn't even miss a beat. A few months later, the severed heads of all the Assassins were found in the High Lords' food pantry.
I'm over a year late but which edition was this entry in?
One thing I’m absolutely happy about this video, as an Alpha Legion player, is that there wasn’t an Among Us joke every five minutes or that Alpharious wasn’t called Alphari-sus
I find that oddly sus.
Alphari-sus Omegus.
That is pretty omega-sus
ALPHARSUS
Is the Alpha Legion good in the tabletop?
I've always held that the twins were told of two possible futures, but neither one was an acceptable victory condition. The Alpha Legion's insane fuckery is their decision - choose neither path and hopefully force a third option. By playing against everyone they just might break the prophecy altogether.
Mm I like that
The Cabal pretty much said that this is what ended up happening
I just finish 'Legion', and that's it!
Suppose you throw a coin enough times. Suppose, one day, it lands on its edge.
‘Fuck fate, we are Alpha. We will break your prophesies over our knees and dash them against the ground. We make the future our own’
"Alpharius is incredibly smug for fooling everyone"
Of course he does
He mains Spy
“Right behind you”
Hon Hon hon
Gentlemen
@@user-lk8ph2ph5f Mentlegen
Okay, headcanon: The Alpha Legion sounds French. Like, offensively French.
I love the whole idea with playing the alpha legion and telling your opponent "One of these models is Alpharius", but that's actually a lie and it turns out their warlord was alpharius all along, and you pull out the exact same mini of their warlord like "yeah, we kidnapped him and hid him here in the rubble", but then when your opponent opens fire on alpharius he dies suspiciously quickly because that was a lie and your mini was the real alpharius, but then your opponent uses a special strategem noone knew existed and reverts time to kill your fake warlord min who isnt actually alpharius because your opponent was playing alpha legion the whole game, tricking you into thinking you are alpharius in the process.
Everyone always asks who is Alpharius, but not how is Alpharius :(
I´m gonna ask a better question:
WHY is Alpharius?
I’m not doing too well ngl, thank you for asking Alpharius
@@Ghostof17War when was alpahrius and where is omegon? :D
@@Ghostof17War well you don't really have to ask who Alpharius is Because its pretty obvious that I AM ALPHARIUS
I'm glad at least someone is considering my feelings.
Tldr: Alpharius Omegan simply partook in a quite a bit of trolling
A spot of tomfoolery, if you will.
Perhaps
A touch of shenanigannery, one might say
@@wiilov A speck of bamboozlry one could speculate.
A shard of clowning, in other words
If I remember correctly, during the "Faith and Fury" Supplement Book, the Alpha Legion turned an entire imperial planet into psychers, but instead of becoming demon infested, the world manifested storms of golden fire, armys of golden warriors, swarms of doves and stuff like that AGAINST the traitor astartes. So in a way, they helped the loyalists.
...
...
The Inquisition exterminatused the planet shortly after against protest of the sisters of battle and the black templars of course.
For fuck's SAKE, the inquisition are so fucking stupid. EVEN THE EMPEROR DAMN BLACK TEMPLARS WERE SAYING 'YES WE NEED THIS PLANET!'
Because of course they did.
Something really holy happens:
Imperium: fuck *THAT* shit
@@TycoonTitian01 Disclaimer, I can't find any source on that story anymore, so my memory might have either tricked me, somebody bullshitted me, or (the most likely explanation) I was rused by the Alpha Legion all along.
Eh that fits in 40k so let’s just say it’s real
"Death to the enemies of the False Emperor!" - famous Alpha Legion warcry
lmfao this one is really good
All likes and dislikes cannot be fully trusted. The Alpha legion is playing both sides.
Does anyone else want them to just put a sign up saying redacted and then end straight away
Kinda
NO
That's the Dark Angels thing
@@robinnturner5410 which were also Alpha Legion.
That would be as hilarious as [redacted] when he [redacted] [redacted] and [redacted] to [redacted]. It was the [redacted] [redacted] of my [redacted].
25:56 And this is the moment where every 40K fan like me who didn’t know shit about the Alpha Legion had their minds blown.
I just imagined Cawl closing up one of his Primaris vaults and as it closes, a speck of light reveals something that could or could not be a piece of Alpha Legion Primaris Powerarmor.
As the vault is enclosed completely, he turns arround and looks at the camera and one of his optronic receptors flickers, as he was doing a wink.
“This sentence is a lie”
-Alpharius
Or is it?
Krieg is a lie
"this sentence is a lie
-Alpharius"
-Omegon
I never said that
@@alphariusomegon6710 ...
That's a lie isn't it?
Bricky: "The most unbelievable part of this statement is that Dorn wanted to do something fun."
Me who commented the same thing on the video: "Fuck yeah, mood kindred."
The Alpha legion: If the loyalists can't tell what we're doing, neither can chaos.
So essentially Alpharius has the power to be a "Grey Man". He cant make himself invisible like Corvus Corax but he can make it to where whoever see's him does not feel like he is worth investigating or remembering.
Very similar results but different ways of getting there.
One sneaks in the other blend in
What are Grey Men in 40K context?
@@Dracobyte technically everyone besides Chaos, Tyrannids and Dark Eldars
@@erwannthietart3602 thank you for the information!
Best way to explain in Alpha Legion:
Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
“The Imperium doesn’t want you to know this but the guardsmen are free. You can take as many as you want. I’ve got 5 fortifying my house back at home”
I love the implication that Alpharius/Omegon snuck into the imperial records in order to leave fanfiction about himself. It adds an extra subtext to the fact he spends so much time going on about how cool and special he is and makes a point to make sure the reader knows what a nice guy he is.
I like the implication of this implication that he's inside Imperial Palace, and _never_ left. He's just been masterminding everything from the comfort of his hidden secret room just below the Golden Throne.
After the Horus Heresy, he snuck into the Palace, and just stayed there. Especially since he can make himself imperceivable, he could just walk anywhere without anyone the wiser.
@@jocosesonata F#@kin LOVE it.
@@jocosesonata And there's no Malcador to find him...
@@jocosesonata if they bring back alpharious I hope they do something like this and say the one killed was just a normal alpha legion marine
@@NightMeteor21
"Oh, hey guys. What's- whoa, whoa, whoa! Calm down... Me? Traitor? What do you mean, what Heresy? By who? Horus? Wow, that's, uh, that's a yikes. Well, I was told by ol' Malcador to chill out beneath the throne room for a little while, and then next thing I know the bastard locked me in, and I've just been spending the few hours- wait, how long? I've been here for that long? Gosh, I didn't even notice... Hey! Omegon, wake up! Apparently we've been trapped in here for like... More than a year, and, uh, there's this whole fustercluck with Horus and the gang- yeah. Yep... Omegon's asking if our room is still available.
Oh yeah! Sure-sure, of course, we'll help you with the- yep, we'll call our sons off. Those little rascals. What have they been up to."
Well, now I've fallen in love with the Alpha Legion.
"Looks at Forgeworld"
"Looks at wallet"
This is not good.
Hahahha you are in severe crippling debt and now owe money to several friends, family, and government organizations.
Their Dreadnaught may be my favorite model they had ever done.
I want one, though I'll never play HH.
This is a lie...
25:56 this is the best bit you have ever done. Bloody brilliant. Perfect for the Alpha legion.
And now to set up the Adeptus Ridiculous drinking game!
Take a drink if...
-"Such a chad", "Nutty", or "he FUCKS" is said by bricky.
-DK does a variation of "JESUS!" Or "Oh God"
-Konrad Curze somehow gets mentioned
-Robute Guilliman's first name is mispronounced
Bricky says "You ever?" And DK has not done the thing/vaguely knows at best
"That is the most Warhammer thing"
DEATH MODE
-chuckle at Shy's background edits
Edit post episode: the Alpha Legion episode is intentionally easy, or is it?
Don't forget about Doge Vandire or if feet get brought up
Edit: don't forget about them randomly going "wo wo wo wo"
And don't forget them talking about scrotes
Don't forget DK repeating exactly the same thing Bricky said and Bricky going "Pretty much"
Yeah, it gets boring sometimes, but I guess that's the charm ;-)
add DK says Lets Go!!! or a Anime Reference. OR Bricky makes among us meme
The only reason Horus liked A/O was cause he could appreciate a good shiny noggin
Balds stonk together
@@BoneistJ 💯
All bald men except for Vulkan turns Chaos. Lolz
I feel like Alpharius and the Alfa Legion’s shenanigans is that one scene from “Tropic Thunder”
“I KNOW WHO I AM! I’m a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!”
"The dudes are emerging"
It's very alpha legion to disguise as Neil Armstrong in the year 40k
Imagine saying "I'm Alpharius" and an Alpha Legionnair responds with either
"Yes You Are"
"No, You're Omegon"
I'm Alpharius!
@@therealchaosguy Go home Omegon, you're drunk
Funnily enough, in the novel Renegades:Harrowmaster, a bunch of Alpha Legion warbands congregate for a common cause and when the representative of one such warband introduces himself saying "I am Alpharius", the entire congregation responded "The fuck you are!"
Even the Alpha Legion is sick of it
The idea of a SPACE MARINE doing espionage and covert tactics is kind of hilarious.
Don't mind me, just repairing an old pocket watch with a sledgehammer.
Well the Alpha Legion actually uses non astartes/normal humans.
They even technically count as Legionnaires.
It does sound very silly yes. Although apparently it helps that the Alpha legion uses power armor that can shift its coloring in a way that effectively makes it adaptive camouflage. Why don't ALL the space marines use this adaptive cammo feature? I dunno.
@@hfar_in_the_sky Cost probably and the fact that most other Astartes' doctrines don't include nearly as much espionage/stealth tactics. So it's not worth the cost.
@@abysswatcher9172 Well it's as good an explanation as any I suppose
someone: I killed Alpharius
Alpharius: or did you?
*vsauce theme starts playing*
So... I spent the last hour learning about the Alpha Legion and their primarch/s. And now I have a crackhead theory.
So, the Canon is that Dorn (who was actually Dorn) killed Alpharius (who was actually Omegon), inspiring Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) to change his name to Alpharius.
I propose that this is a lie.
In actual fact, Alpharius and Omegon managed to turn Dorn Traitor by convincing him that he was Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) through a complicated series of deceptions. The three together then convinced Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) that he was Rogal Dorn. Finally, Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) pretended to be Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) and allowed Dorn (who was actually Alpharius (who was actually Omegon)) to kill him, inspiring Omegon (who was actually Alpharius (who was actually Dorn)) to change his name to Alpharius.
I have no basis for this theory, other than the fact that it seems like the kind of thing Alpharius/Omegon would do because they could.
@@davidkueny2444 I’am now ditching this episode because I don’t want to end up theorising like a crackhead/you
Ravenguard Assault Marine: "Alpharius could be in this very ROOM! He could be YOU! He could be ME! He could even BE-"
*Imperial Fist Marine shoots Ravenguard in the Face*
White Scar Scout: "WOAH, WOAH, WOAH!"
Iron Hand Devastator : "Ugh!"
Imperial Fist: "What?! It was obvious. *HE'S* Alpharius!"
There is a little thing, while fighting Dorn Alpharius (or Omegon) wasn't really fighting. He was trying to tell Dorn: "Wait, brother! I'm here to give you intel about Horus!"
But Dorn is stubborn and it was like he spoke to a...
Wall.
So Alpharius gambled on the 8/9 chance that the Primarch sent to Pluto would not be the one who hates him more than he does crooked nails?
@@GamerGrovyle fun fact: he knew it would be Dorn.
@@GamerGrovyleNo. He specifically called Dorne. He just acted like a donut, thinking Dorne wouls entertain his theatrics and not just kill him
@@crim1188 Says more about the author John French than Alpharius. I refuse to include anything John French wrote in canon.
"Never ask the Alpha Legion a question, lest they tell you 7 truthfull lies"- Kassar of the Alpha Legion.
This has several levels of trickery
The 7 is the holy number of Nurgle. I am Alpharius.
What if that was a lie?
Bricky was censored and my mind autofilled that blank as "bussy" even though it doesn't even fit, i think i have a problem.
That gives me ptsd of Megan from neckbeardia saying cat bussy
You know, it makes sense that Dorn was able to "spot" Alpharius (Omegon) easily, since that was Omegon, not THAT experienced with his gift unlike his twin brother. And The Lion was unable to notice he was talking to a primach because, by that point, he was well trained in it
The whole Cabal deal reminds me of Kain‘s speech in Soul Reaver 2. Alpharius & Omegon are faced with two bad sides of a coin, destroy Chaos and humanity or let Chaos be victorious. So the twin Primarchs chose bith and neither, locking the Imperium in decay, preventing Chaos from completely winning and preserving humanity, even if the circumstances are horrible. At some point a third option will be possible to free the galaxy of the tyranny of the Gods. Throw a coin often enough and at some point it will land on its edge.
And Alpharius has a FUCKTON of coins, all flipping forever until one does
Alpharius will bring the Emperor back.
54:16 I still take offense to the dorn can’t read jokes! The man loves reading.... manuals, technical documentation, ancient DIY books, etc! He needs to fortify, his knowledge.
Lmao.
@@Ashtor1337 “XD,” said Kharn the Betrayer
Pretty sure they're mixing up Rogal with Russ
He tells a joke in Horus rising
In my head canon Alpharius( actually Omegon) was actually a traitor and believed that it was the only way to kill Chaos, while Omegon( actually Alpharius) believed that both options were stupid and is playing both sides so that humanity won't get eradicated, the true will of the Emperor!
I'm thinking that there was a civil war inside the Alpha Legion, and the two primarchs split up because they were too evenly matched. Omegon approached Horus and offered his half of the Legion, but did so under the guise of Alpharius.
Alpharius, realizing that there would be no chance to fight his twin and the strength of the full traitor legions, became Omegon and started working in the shadows to disrupt their efforts.
How I see it is that Omegon was a traitor but Alpharuis was still loyal and still alive after switching places. But he is still working against the Imperium because he is only loyal to Big E and how the Imperium is right now isn't Big E dream. As in his book he is always only loyal to Big E dream
I can understand Alpharius having a massive ego, like all his brothers, since the biggest ego is born of true skill and arrogance grows from actual confidence. And really, who's more competent than primarchs? Very VERY few, that's who. I also kind of get him having an ego after pulling the wool over his brothers' eyes, and even getting into a position where he had a very real chance of taking out big E. Add on all that training by uncle Malcador, and I get him having a swelled ego, but as most of them have shown, an excessive ego can be deadly. A few good sparring matches with Leman would be a compelling reminder that he is not untouchable. Also a psycher demo by Magnus.
I mentioned this in another comment but... it may have actually worked. In the prophecy where Horus lost all of the loyalist primarchs were supposed to die or vanish eventually and never return... but Giliman's resurrection happened which was not part of that prophecy, which has caused the Imperium to actually start to rebound.
Every primarch,
Heck every space marine has some warp effery in their genes/geneseed. Every primarch has some warp power. Jagatai and Russ and Dorn have afaik only manifested their powers overtly only once each. Dorn's moment:
Bunch of alpha legion all in armor and full helmets. Dorn walks up to them, walks straight up to one of them - alpharious - and proceeds to call him brother and talks to him. Dorn one up's Lion el Johnson
Neat
I just imagine his rigid no nonsense mentality manifested as an aura of “anti-dumbfuckery” which allowed him to pierce the veil of trolling that surrounded them and see exactly what he wanted to know
@@GearShotgun But see, if he only sees the one that is truly Alpharius, then... It may not even BE Alpharius, since the whole blood poison thing makes them basically INTO Alpharius
Hey isn't it wild that the Hydra, the Alpha Legion, and the creature depicted on their logo... has three heads.
*whispers* don’t
Please fucking don't my brain is dead enough
We do not speak of Ligmalius
@@95keat no fool you spoke his name now games workshop has to rework the lore again
@@95keat Updogis firbids it.
You can't trick me Shy.
That's clearly Alpharius using a Bricky voice modulator!
Alpharius has legit the BEST Primarch armor.
Legit amazing, I love it.
Guilliman, Rogal, Mortarion: "Ew."
Conrad: * Thumbs up meme kid *
Or that How to train your dragon meme of Toothless saying high to the girl dragon and the dude giving a thumbs up
Fuck yeah. Finally getting to 40k's best trait-... Loyalist?... In-between, it's best in-between chapter
That's a funny way to spell dark angels
@@InviWasTaken damnit
Quick question can we get Jumpy to do a Imperium jacket review
They are chaos, and they serve tzeech. There is no other way they are this trick y
@@jesterprince4949 But are they splintered or have they separated into cells not determined ahead of time to give the appearance of splintering?
Imagine if most of the primarchs simply responded to “brother, we’ve found you”
With “fuck off”
What angron did
Wait... I just realized something:
What if Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) took a Space Marine that looked like him and renamed him Alpharius and Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) renamed himself to this Space Marine, and so Rogal Dorn killed Alpharius (who was actually unimportant Alpha Legionare) and Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) renamed himself Alpharius in honor of Alpharius (who was actually unimportant Alpha Legionare)?
So maybe Both Alpharius and Omegon Live?!?!?!?!?!?!
OH SHIT!
While yes the other alpha legionare looks similar there are still differences. John Grammaticus mentioned that he could tell alpha legionares apart. And i am certain Dorn could and would notice too.
A regular Alpha marine probably wouldn't give Dorn much of a fight
@@user-pm3wk6lw6m I heard some canon where Alpharius and Omegon has some sort of power where they can upgrade their space marines to be on a primarch level, and that was how they managed to fool Dawn,
However, we have no way of knowing if they actually had that power, or if that too was a lie.
@@xPumy09HD1 well we gotta think dorn was PISSED and the chance he was actually paying that close of attention in the middle of a battle is kinda low even for dorn
I love that anything tabletop related with alpha legion is canon because it can just be considered deceit.
You can have ultramarine minis, paint them ultramarine colours, play with ultramarine rules, aaaaand say youre playing alpha legion
Imagine if the final battle at the end of time in later 40k features the resurgence of both Alpharius and Omegon facing off in a battle but Alpharius was actually Omegon who was involved in Pluto when Dorn killed a fake created by Fabious and Omegon was actually Alpharius pretending to get passed enemy lines and now Omegon is here to kill Alpharius because he fell to Chaos but he’s lying and the real Alpaharius is here as a loyal son of the emperor to kill Omegon who was always tainted by Chaos by Lorgar?
My brain screamed, but cool.
ye
Age of Sigmar tier lame ngl
@@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 But he understands that this stuff is supposed to be fun. Do you?
So in the end both in up dead but not because both were fake the real ones were gone but not in the way that such Is a screaming bird a thing or a something so we round it all back to the number 2 because the color orange will smell like pineapple and then we discover Tryazon and eldred were in fact leman and Vulcan
I really like that it’s a dark Angel he was disguised as. I run my own custom chapter the Alpha Angels which are partially for the fun of maximizing the meme of who are they fighting for. Basically a dark Angel successor that has been infiltrated by the Alpha legion, “who’s who, who’s loyal and who are they loyal to?” type deal.
That would be a nightmare for the chaplains, if they followed dark angels traditions lmao
Eh. I'd have called them something else. Like 'The Last Angels' or 'The First And The Last'.
dude thats awesome
@@Brutalyte616 I’m fine with the name as is, the dark angels were the first and arguably the best, something that Alpha Angels feels fitting for
@@adorablecenturion8436 they are somewhat divergent from the codes, still in line with the goal but are a fleet based chapter often acting on the far fringes of imperium space where there is far less oversight
I find it fitting for a episode about twin Primarchs, we had echo bricky.
Glad you liked the Curze speaking to any Primarch meme, Bricky!
The lore about the alpha legion primarchs... Is like GW playing that game of "can you find/track this ball I hide in one of these three cups?" to the reader...
But here's the thing.... there was never a ball to begin with.
the 3 cup game, except they are allowed to out a blind fold on you, and are allowed to teleport the ball if they feel like it
I can make it worse.
So, the Canon is that Dorn (who was actually Dorn) killed Alpharius (who was actually Omegon), inspiring Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) to change his name to Alpharius.
I propose that this is a lie.
In actual fact, Alpharius and Omegon managed to turn Dorn Traitor by convincing him that he was Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) through a complicated series of deceptions. The three together then convinced Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) that he was Rogal Dorn. Finally, Omegon (who was actually Alpharius) pretended to be Alpharius (who was actually Omegon) and allowed Dorn (who was actually Alpharius (who was actually Omegon)) to kill him, inspiring Omegon (who was actually Alpharius (who was actually Dorn)) to change his name to Alpharius.
there are acually two balls, and 10 thousand cups, and two girls, and another thousand fake balls, that look exactly like the (two) ball(s) you are looking for
@@davidkueny2444 what the fuck its in text and i cant understand it
I heard the outro theme and all I could think was “That can’t be it! But then again, it is the Alpha Legion. Maybe it’ll be in the Legion episode.” Love the fake out
"Oh my God they really are about to have it be black and silent for another half hour aren't they?"
I think the alpha legion has 4d chessed the universe so much that not even they are sure which side they are really on and are just running through all of their plans hoping to figure it out along the way.
After the Isstvan massacre, when Alpharius told Horus he had infiltrated the Raven Guard, Horus was shocked because he knew Sons of Horus had to be compromised in the same way.
When I read Head of the Hydra, it didn’t seem to me that Alpharius had an ego, or at least he didn’t have an ego that was greater than the norm for Primarchs. Whenever he talked about how he could have done something but didn’t, it seemed more like he was saying that he didn’t because of his role to stay hidden. It’s like he’s trying to stress how much he puts his duty before anything else, or at least that’s how I read it.
As for when he says that he does stuff better then his brothers, every primarch says that. It’s rare for one of the Primarchs to think that their siblings had a better approach to warfare.
probably vulkan... that beautifull bastard
@@fernandotrevinocastro1018 Even Vulkan had his biases. I know for a fact that he didn't like how the Death Guard conducted their crusades. Biggest difference between Vulkan and other Primarchs was that he didn't say anything about it.
Magnus bragged that the 1k sons could build better fortresses than the iron warriors (who's primarch he is friends with) and imperial fists, mostly just to make his sons feel better about being shit att it.
I'm surprised Bricky took so long to talk about the Alpha Legion given his love of Among Us memes
That seems a bit sus to me......
Alright guys, thanks for watching, this has been alpharius and alpharius, special thanks to omegon for the support. You can find us... when we want you to
The mystery makes the Alpha Legion, and that mystery also provides so much opportunity to fans and writers to do so much, but at the same time answering the mystery removes the mystery, so it's also such a limitation. It makes it really fascinating to consider what CAN be done, only to realize why it CAN'T be done.
I just realized that they’ve been confusing Russ and Rogal and that’s why they’ve been calling Rogal illiterate
I'm pretty sure the reason for this is that Bricky referred to Dorn as "being stupid/dumb" in joking manner, and DK mistook it for being literal...
It's a channel inside joke, Bricky said that "[Rogal] tries to forcefully fit the square peg in the triangle hole" or something, as in "he has no context clues whatsoever", which DK mistook as "he's a fucking idiot", Bricky corrected that later, but it remained as a inside joke
@@kacperjabuszewski8888 I’m an Iron Warriors boi so I approve 😂
Yeah DK is slow on the uptake at times.
Why does it matter, they're both Alpharius.
Yay, the schizophrenia episode
Lmao
@@hestan723 “XD”, said Kharne the Betrayer
I'm painting my loyalist marines as Alpha Legion. I love their trolling so much.
28:50 REALLY! You mean the guy who is solely responsible for the creation of the Grey Knights, the Assassin Temples, and the INQUISITION ITSELF! Is sketchy as fuck. I can’t wait till you guys do an episode on Malcador cause that old man is a fucking BOSS.
Bricky why didnt you mention how Alpharius Omegon can give a small amount of their blood to their astartes so that the agent has their memories to better serve as a duplicate
If the Legion gets an episode I'm sure it will be mentioned there
Me before this episode: "Hee Hoo funny Spy guy I am Alpharius"
Me after this episode: Alpharius is sick as fuck holy shit.
Alpharius or Omegon?
@@alek7998 yes
To be fair Alpharius is also funny spy guy
Does this mean that Alpharius-Omegon has the same or similar powers to Corvus Corax? They both have the ability to alter other peoples' perception of them; Corax just uses it to make himself invisible, and Alpharius-Omegon uses it to conceal his true nature from others.
I find the easiest way to think of the three stealthiest Primarchs is like this.
Corvus Corax: Can literally turn invisible and walk in plain view and go unnoticed most of the time (machines can still spot him).
Konrad Curze: Is more akin to Batman where he is simply extremely good at hiding in the shadows and being slippery with his movements.
Alpharius/Omegon: Is able to hide by making themselves look unremarkable to others, using effective disguises, and any helpful tools to blend into their surroundings.
They also have the power to block their mind from outside intrusion
@@alexyoblick Or for DND...
Corvus: Pick a stealth guy
Konrad: Shade
Alpharius: False Hydra
I laughed so hard when bricky said “and its all a complete fucking lie”. I knew it was coming and i was waiting and i was rewarded for my patience.
Fun fact the primarch we follow in the books might not be either Alparius or Omegon. It could just be one of his own Astartes pretending to be Alpharius?
Let's not go down that rabbit hole
@@erwinthedodo9205 too late.
When two men becomes 10000, because they all want to wear his face, who is to say what story is a lie, because both men know their place.
maybe there are 5000 books like this hidden in imperium records waiting to be founded all with conflicting narratives planted by all of their sleeper agents
Now i picture Alpharius and Rogal Dorn as that trope of two guards that go "ONE OF US ALWAYS LIES, AND THE OTHER ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH"
Do you steal jeans?
You mean Kairos?
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
@@AlmightyLoaf "Yes, father; it is a commonly used instrument to the means of flavor enhancement."
-Rogal Dork, probably
@@lertox00 you've done it,... I will now refer to dorn as Rogal Dork now... hope you're happy with this meme, I know I am.
Me: Not really into 40K, just here to listen to Bricky tell cool stories.
Also me: WHAT DO YOU MEAN HORUS WASN'T THE FIRST PRIMARCH FOUND?!
26:40 I imagine Bricky talking and moving around the room, putting on a 60's style raincoat and scarf. Finally he puts on a fedora and sweeps out the door without finishing the story.
I want Rogal Dorns sword to be called "The Freight Chain"
ROGAL DORN'S COLOSSAL CHAINBLADE-
Dorns device of death
Rogal’s Magnum Dorn
@@lordadorable7362 LET IT RIP
@@filenotfound6556 (ZoranTheBear voice) OOPS, I DROPPED MY MONSTER CHAINBLADE; FOR MY *MAGNUM DORN*
This is, no lie, the BEST episode so far. The twist near the beginning, the lore, EVERYTHING was awesome. I really am not a Chaos fan by any stretch, but I am even tempted to get Alpha Legion models..... like I need anymore >.>
This is, a lie, the BEST episode so far. The twist near the beginning, the lore, EVERYTHING was awesome. I really am not an Imperial fan by any stretch, but I am even tempted to get Alpha Legion models...... like I need anymore
@@morganbarnham5427 I see what you did there :P
@@TrilainaBloodwind Thank you!
I mean if you like Alpha Legion but don't like Chaos then you could just get loyalist space marines and paint them as Alpha Legion.
The best part about playing Alpha Legion is that you can just mash together other marines and say they're all Alpha Legionaires in disguise.
It is fitting that the 1st legion's (Dark Angels) loyalty is in doubt and the whole legion shrouded in secrets; mirrored by the 20th legion's (Alpha Legion) treason being in doubt and the whole legion shrouded in secrets.
Frankly, I have a head canon that Alpharius somehow found a way to utilize the time fucky-wuckiness of the warp, and every member of the alpha legion is literally different Alphariuses from alternate timelines.
The death Corps of Krieg would like a word...
Funny 'Alpharius' Valentine.
Apparently he makes a Potion from his blood which when drunk by someone with his Geneseed will make them grow in size and gain the memories of Alpharius.
So when someone says "I am Alpharius" they're not lying. Effectively they are another Alpharius.
Alpharius: into the omegaverse
honestly super surprised Tzeentch is never brought up when people discuss the Alpha Legion. That dude loves intrigues and plans within plans within plans and it could very well be that Alpharius & Omegon are just pawns in Tzeentch's great plan.
Because even Tzeentch doesnt understand whats going on
@@therac197 if he could just figure out who the fuck WASN'T Alpharius, he'd nail the plan down.
But Christ, they literally call each other Alpharius! All the time! It's a fucking traditional greeting! By the time he noticed them lying to everyone, they'd been lying for millenia!
plot twist: tzeentch is just a pawn in the alpha legion's plans
@@QueenSabrina335 bigger plot twist - tzeentch is actually Omegon after he got sent back in time via warp shenanigans. He HAS to do things the way that he is to make sure that the empire survives the 'nids much later on.
i can honestly picture tzeentch being like: "ok real talk here, they are both loyal to the emperor, but 25% of my power comes from their shenanigans, and i honestly cant tell if fighting them or trying to support them would bennefit me, so i just let them be... plus i really like the guys"
There are two bricky’s in this episode, he is truly Alpharius
Y'know, I think this has quickly become a favorite Warhammer channel for me. You guys have a great conversational tone that keeps the awe of the lore intact. It's fun to hear a more outside reaction as well to the stories and definitely underlines the cool parts. Keep it up.
I hope I keep finding these different yet great WH channels.
One of my favorite things may or may not have been a canon story, but it's a bunch of like militia men standing up against either tyranids, or some other Xenos and they get rescued by space marines... and the story just slowly describes the guy looking at the pristine turquois armor, the incredibly sculped scales, the.. multi headed serpent? Ah, must be some kind of smaller chapter of like the ultra marines here to rescue us! Duh!
Robot Girlyman: Alpharius! You can't destabilize governments and assassinate their leaders! You must send hordes of marines to massacre their mortal soldiers!
Alpharius: LOL
Omegon: LMAO
Blood angels respond : throw a few of our boys in black down there the problem will resolve itself eventually
K this killed me lmfaooo
Officio Assassinorum: Taking notes at governmental sabotage
To be fair, Guilliman actually had a point. Alpharius was just too much of an egotistical jackass to see it... or care. Lmao
@@RepKyle95 implying Guilleman isn’t an egotistical Jackass either. And when they did try a frontal assault, Alpharius / Omegon / a random marine got decapitated by Dorn
Commenting before watching: PLEASE LET THE DANG EMPEROR'S CHILDREN AND FULGRIM BE NEXT! I have desperately been needing to hear Bricky and DK's reactions to ultimate Chad that is Rylanor.
Nah Purterabo
@@DarthRellek55 *peter turbo
HELL YEAH!
@ Human malal : I am joke to you?
DANGIT CZcams, MY COMMENT CALLING FULGRIM A GAY SNAKE MAN KEEPS GETTING REMOVED
I'm calling him this as a GOOD thing! He's my favorite gay snake man!
this video has probably made the alpha legion my favourite traitor legion. The line "i am Alpharius" is also funny to me because it works in lore and can confuse anyone both in and out of it