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- A very controversial subject: Using a projector to copy an image if you cant draw or would like help in getting an image on to a painting surface. Its a good way to learn if you don't want the hassle of drawing and getting perspective right, you can always practice your drawing skills at a later date and still enjoy the painting process
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The "Old Masters" used camera obscura. Refusing to use tools is not at all a part of being a "proper artist."
Went into a Thrift store and picked up one in the box for $9, here in Florida. My wife is learning to draw. I told her to try one of these to help her train her hands for drawing specific parts of the body and specific items. She was trying to learn to draw everything and was not making much progress, so I told her she needs to spend some of her day focusing on specific things, the things she struggles in most. This way she is advancing her weaknesses so they stay up with that she draws easily. She is excited to try it. Photography is my hobby, so I know the importance to improve weaknesses. I always say, "Struggling is not a sign to get frustrated and give up. It is a sign to focus more on that weakness to get it out of the weakness stage." Thanks for the video.
Happy to help
Bless you for reminding us that it's ok to use projectors, sometimes I feel like less of an artist for not hand drawing before painting. It's nice to have the reassurance that it's ok!
I can draw, but it saves a lot of time when you transfer or trace an image. And that still takes some talent.
Very true 👍
This is great and I have to remind people that you can get the perfect outline but you still have to paint it. If anyone called me a cheat I say crack on and try it yourself.
Very true that why most artists don’t draw just use basic outline
There is a book out There Secrets of The Masters.The paintings looked like unrealistic paperdoll cutouts untill around the 1400s.And then there was a dramatic change in quality and realism.They discovered homemade projectors. And the Masters became Masters.
Interesting thank you
I used one of these projectors to blow up a picture from a coloring book of King Tut in his chariot onto a large canvas - it came out spectacularly and I painted it in acrylics. Your video refreshed my memory as to how to do this. Thanks so much!
Thank you always happy to inspire
The projector was very common in the sign industry. Adjusting for slight lens-effect warping, size variation from heat fluctuation, and sometimes a type of drift, the tool was wonderful. As an artist these minor adjustments are no problem. Well done thank you for this video, you reminded me that I am still an artist FIRST, a sign maker second.
Thank you for the information
As an artist who has some physical challenges, such as a palsy in my right (painting) hand, I can no longer draw. Using the Autograph Digital Projector has been a life saver. I still have to steady my tracing hand with my left hand, but I am at least able to get the image on to a canvas. Projectors are just one of the tools we use to complete our paintings - no different from brushes, or charcoal, or medium or terp.
Wahoo words of sense take care of yourself glad you can still enjoy your art
I've always thought a shadow from the hand or body would make this difficult. As a child, I had a Christmas gift of a large blue plastic box with a clear tray and clips on it inside the box which adjusted up or down by a large dial on the outside. It came with small transparencies simple enough for a child to draw which clipped onto the tray inside. You closed the opaque lid and drew with paper on top of that and the box was perfect for storing papers, transparencies and pencils when not in use. LOVED that toy and it got me started drawing at a very young age. This or any tool to create with is entirely acceptable to use and my high school art teacher always told me this. I don't listen to 'purists' or those with more skill than myself try to convince otherwise. I use both digital compositing and traditional art and either is fine, there is no cheating with art.
My recent visit to the national art gallery seeing the masters and knowing the processes I can say there is no cheating in art just an end result
Thank you. i have a projector but didn't realize I could use my easel to hold the canvas! I appreciate this so much.
Thank you so much for your detailed instructions, Clive!
+phoenixsonrising so kind thank you
Just remember that if that canvas is not completely vertical and the projector is not perfectly level in all directions the image will be distorted. An easel is alright to hold the canvas, but you'll really need to use a wedge behind the top of the canvas to make it perpendicular to the floor. The top edge of Clive's canvas was angled a little back in this tutorial. It may not make a difference with a fruit basket, but from experience, if you are doing a hyper-realistic portrait you will be left wondering why something doesn't quite look right. That something will be your proportions which will not be easily fixable once you're well into your project. Worse is when you don't notice it until the end.
Good advice
Wow can't believe i am just seeing this now! See, my problem is I am not great at drawing pictures, in fact I am pretty terrible, especially when it comes to perspective. Now when it comes to coloring, that is where I truly shine. Whether it was coloring in coloring books or in art class painting in stenciled drawings, I was always very naturally talented. Never in a million years did i think do to this nor was it never recommended to me. Cant wait to buy one and start tracing outlines to really start painting some serious paintings! Thank you so much for this!!!!
Have fun painting
Thank you for the advice. I'm a novice painter, and have been "freehanding", but I'm intrigued by this idea, and can't wait to try it!
Your welcome please have fun Clive
Thank you for make a frustrated artist to start his dream, You are such a nice person to teach your talent to others, what kind of pen or pencil is correct to trace on canvas that later do not show over the acrilic paint?
i totally agree 100% with you,i am an artist also from the caribbean and recently invested in one,i am able to work faster,and it is so much easier,and as you rightly said you are not doing a drawing ,you are doing a painting.i truly believe if the masters of the past were here today without a doubt would use this technology.thanks for sharing
Thank you 😊 I always say if you can draw you cannot always paint but you can learn to do both with help
Thank you for this information and as I see it a projector is just a time saver that is all it is.... just a tool like any other tool. thanks again
+dorte aviaja petersen exactly thank you
Thank you for this wonderful tutorial. Love your level of instruction.
+Marti Leigh Gainous so kind ty
I’m almost ready to get one of these. I like the way you explained this.
Ok have fun with it
Many thanks
Indeed this will accelerate production.
Exactly what it takes for people with difficulty with drawing.
Do not lose sight of the fact that this system is already used
several centuries ago by renowned artists !
True they have been used in several forms right back centuries
I was reading about "numbers stations" earlier today looking at wifi radio devices and it being on a shortwave radio blog and reading the term "spy craft". I had heard it used before but today it inspired me to looking into a spy craft for the arts, an "art craft", I will say. I remembered reading about the "camera obscura" and connected the dots in my head that a projector could be used. Thank you for being on youtube to confirm this is possible and encouraging people to paint. My Mom was an artist and someday I would like to be one as well.
That sounds interesting thank you 😊 anyone can paint or be an artist it takes confidence that's all like everything we do in life just believe you can and you will
Great, but I don't want to be printing things out. I want to project from the digital image to the canvas.
I was thinking recently that I should print a black & white so I could see the lights and shadows more accurately. I’ve been doing colored pencil (love my lightboard), tried some water color, and am just learning acrylic painting. Your videos are really good and very helpful. Obviously, I’ve subscribed. Thank you!
Big thank you always best to print out both colour and black n white references to help with tones
Great video thank u!!
thank you so much for this, it is another of many messages I've been getting lately that is helping me overcome the "cheating" complex. The David Hockney video and book also helped.
Have you ever used an LCD projector? It's the kind you can hook up to a laptop...would love to hear your thoughts on it.
thanks again
I have been looking into lcd projectors for doing murals. Anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced one that is good for projecting images for murals?
Thanks for the instruction on using a projector I have not used since my husband bought it for me, LAST Christmas! I did not know I had to use transparencies I learned a lot from your painting of a tree, and I will now prime my canvases properly. No longer will I trash the little wooden pieces which come with purchased canvases. Much good will, and warm regards,
Debbie Artigliere
Hi Debra you can just use photo in your projector if it's similar to mine and I'm glad you have picked up some tips join me on face book I'm here to help regards Clive
CLIVE5ART Many thanks...I will friend request you on Facebook. Warm regards, Debbie Artigliere
You are pretty good. 👍🏻Thank you for sharing your knowledge.😊
+Bruceann Yellowega thank you
The first thing my neighbour said to me when I excitedly told him about my new projector was “that’s cheating”.... I didn’t have words to defend myself....😢
Well all the great artists used and still use drawing aid like the Lucy drawing tool which has been around for 100s of years your painting not drawing so drawing makes no difference they are two different things those who say it’s cheating don’t understand or the history of painting do some research and see
....perhaps you might check out the "Artograph Inspire800 Digital Art Projector"... (IMHO: ...It's WAY better than the one demonstrated here.)
Good video. If I can add something, I'd advise supporting your board in as vertical a position as possible to avoid a weird perspective.
Good point well observed
Thank you excellent tutorial!
Thank you so much
thank you for this video and I would say also for your support and encouragement.
Your so welcome thank you
My daughter has a mini projector that she plugs into her laptop and she watches Netflix in bed. She projects the laptop screen onto the ceiling.
So. After watching this. I will project still image to canvas.
Extra tip. You can use photoshop to remove colours and just have lines to follow. Then start painting off original
The masters used lens to project images, its not cheating its just a means to an end.
People dont relize that they used all the current technology they had to hand at the time as do we, its not how you get the image down on the working surface, its how to you paint the image, but saying that the masters used apprentices in all the early stages then they would complete the final stages and sign it, Thanks for your comments all the best clive
camera obscura
expensive
Mike Wilson you are exactly right.
You're absolutely right, Mike. Projectors, camera obscura, and so forth, are only tools and should be treated as such.
Show us how to paint it....Thank you~!!
this is great~!!
Apparently, some master artists used a contraption called a "Camera Obscura" which is very similar to this technique. Another option I just learned about through a CZcams ad is the "LUCY drawing tool" which looks very good.
Both have been used for centuries and have been documented well. So many people think it's cheating using these but I can tell you they are used more than you think
its not cheating... cheating is for games and competition. Make art however you want, if u dont want to learn how to do it from geometric shapes but you still find enjoyment in tracing or whatever it is you do to complete the art then by all means do it.
That's what I say it's not about drawing but about painting
Absolutely agreed. Its not cheating - its using your tools so you can paint what you want :)
I am so over others trying to define art as real art or not real. Just as if someone is a real artist or not a real artist. These same people that want to pretend they know all there about true art are basically the art instructors who walk so stiff and uptight their butt cheeks squeak and are the same people that are really professional dream crushers after crushing so many dreams of students who had so much passion in art it made up for the loss of born w talent they could’ve practiced and eventually became just as good as tight butts favorite pets. But instead lost all passion after teachers and other students claim artist are born not learned!! Well, look who is really looking ignorant now. In case these same people who are so quick to tell others they can’t draw by tracing have not heard. After all these years there’s a new projector lens tool and it’s called THE LUCY. All because it was discovered these great all time artist as in Micheal Angelo & LEONARDO DA VICCI MAY HAVE BEEN USING A TOOL W A LENSE WHILE PAINTING FROM A REFLECTION REFLECTING AS THEY TRACED OR PAINTED DIRECTLY ON ONTO THE REFLECTED IMAGE OR ONE IF THEM MAY HAVE HAD A VISION DISORDER CAUSING THE ARTIST TO SEE WHATEVER HE WAS LOOKING AS a flatter image instead of rounded in 3-4 dimesioná like most of SEE. This was didcoverec mámy years ago by SCHOLARS and are the samé scholars who Came out w the patent and invented the lucy DEVICE!! All Those ooohs and aha thinking all that Money paid for art works that Night as well been Traced.,,,hopefully this will losem up those sqeeking cheeks and NOT judge others on things oné didnt invent thrmselves...quit criticizing passionatte students and making Them feel like they arént GOOD enough just because they dont follow academias indictrinated bullcrap!! Teachers are sopposed to Help guide steer passions NOT through ice and Water on them.
Thanks! I wanted to hear that
i did do a similar thing back in 1999/2000 with an overhead on a 1*1meter board :D
Cool
I'm not really painting but transferring patterns onto vinyl and leather. In the past, upholstery patterns were made from cardboard. I've since photographed old, deteriorating cardboard patterns and using edge detection in Gimp I have stored these patterns on computer. So far, the easiest means of transferring these stored patterns to material is using the projector method described here.
Interesting thank you 😊
Amazing video!!!
Thank you 😊
You made this sound easy and will use this technique. I didn't get what type of paper you used. Could you tell me? Finally got the reason why you printed the 3 copies. Made total sense. Will try tracing as I do draw but think it's to complicated to put to canvas. I posted one on the group page and everyone's like paint it. My response 😲
I'm not sure what paper I used as this is such an old lesson I'll have to check
I like this...how to get to kenya this project
I am an artist and draw primarily freehand.I don't see an issue using a projector where time and accuracy are needed. As an artist you have multiple ways to treat the image once it is transferred.
Painting is not drawing so I agree sometimes you need just a few lines
Well I think it’s absolutely fine, if you are more comfortable drawing smaller scale and want to draw on an A1 sheet of paper, transferring your own sketch by means of a projector is fine. I don’t use the graph method so by all means of another way is available I’m totally game 🙂
Cool
I have a model much like this one but not nearly so clear. I'm looking for a hack to make it more clear and sharp. What kind of bulb do you use?
Try moving the head to focus it twist or move it in and out
Camera Obscura, not cheating. Read "SECRET KNOWLEDGE" by David Hockney.
I can not draw at all but I can paint, no shame in using the tools provided. I also feel that more people would get into painting with this tool, drawing is intimidating
Can anyone recommend a small digital projector that could be used to enlarge small prints but also be used to watch movies. Most of my canvas are less the 40 inches wide/height. Will a digital projector work for that small of a canvas?
Hello Sir what kind of projector do you use
Artists have used. various methods of tracing. M. Angelo, Leonardo Da vinci, Vermeer, Van Dyke are Just a a few.
The drawing is one thing. Covering that drawing with paint & color is completely different.
That’s exactly what I say and it’s true a drawing is only an outline not the finished painting
how did you get a square image to fill a rectangular canvas? I end up with a big chunk of canvas with nothing on... or I have to cut off a bit of the photo.
Make it fit and paint what’s not there if you know what I mean
i have the same question
hi , can you help me to know who much is the price for a projector? your look very good because i see you use basic paper is interesting
Between £40 - £70 on eBay
I'm getting one soon and will use it for my first time. Please, explain to me again; why did you make both a black and white copy and a color one...???
Black and white helps with tonal value where the colour shows the hues
@27 seconds in, I prepared to hear the Welsh accent. (ou can also draw a bit too, butt). God's Country. from an Irishman.
What's the name of projector?
Canaletto used camera obscura
Thanks.
Thank you 😊
Clive's art
Clive5art thank you
Not being able to draw didn't stop Picasso and so many others.
Indeed thank you 😊
But seriously, as you said, artists have used what was available to them at the time. People who think an outline of a drawing is to have a painting half-way done clearly have no idea of how complex painting is. You can have a super detailed drawing and not be able to paint it.
And this idea of "oh, but the old masters did it differently" is all over art. I know people who avoid certain colours because they weren't part of the palettes of masters. They don't seem to understand that the reason for that is that they weren't invented or discovered by them. Another thing is when people talk about grisaille and indirect painting being the truest form of painting.
Now, I respect all forms of art and the indirect method is certainly very beautiful, but people don't know that in the past people used to use them because of how expensive the colours were, so it was better to work on black and white first and then glaze.
I don't use a projector, but I don't think it's cheating because, as you said, the hard part doesn't end with the outline. At the end of the day, an artist should use whatever it's available.
Thanks for replying.
Excellent thank you 😊
Picasso could draw well, it was a development in his view of art when he went away from realism, not an inability to draw.
how do you avoid being in the way of the light of the projector when you trace the image?!
Stat to one side of it
Thank you
Can u projects images on a black tee shirt?
Not sure never done that I guess you could
Even Norman Rockwell used a slide projector. There is no cheating in art.
What size is your easel
A standard studio easel
can it project to any size canvas, yours is small
Yes it does state on the instructions
were I get the proyector
It’s on eBay and Amazon
will this work on a black canvas
Possibly
What size image would you use to project onto a 24X48" canvas?
Mari & David Hoskinson The area on the projector is 5 inch x 5 Inch so as longs as it fits there its fine you use the projector as i have shown and you should be ok clive
sorry for the delay in replying been with my family a new granddaughter born this week
Norman Rockwell used projectors.
am so over others trying to define art as real art or not real. Aas if someone is a real artist or not a real artist. These same people that want to pretend they know all there about true art are basically the art instructors who walk so stiff and uptight their butt cheeks squeak and are the same people that are really professional dream crushers after crushing so many dreams of students who had so much passion in art it made up for the loss of born w talent they could’ve practiced and eventually became just as good as tight butts favorite pets. But instead lost all passion after teachers and other students claim artist are born not learned!! Well, look who is really looking ignorant now. In case these same people who are so quick to tell others they can’t draw by tracing have not heard. After all these years there’s a new projector lens tool and it’s called THE LUCY. All because it was discovered these great all time artist as in Micheal Angelo & LEONARDO DA VICCI MAY HAVE BEEN USING A TOOL W A LENSE WHILE PAINTING FROM A REFLECTION REFLECTING AS THEY TRACED OR PAINTED DIRECTLY ON ONTO THE REFLECTED IMAGE OR ONE IF THEM MAY HAVE HAD A VISION DISORDER CAUSING THE ARTIST TO SEE WHATEVER HE WAS LOOKING AS a flatter image instead of rounded in 3-4 dimesioná like most of SEE. This was didcoverec mámy years ago by SCHOLARS and are the samé scholars who Came out w the patent and invented the lucy DEVICE!! All Those ooohs and aha thinking all that Money paid for art works that Night as well been Traced.,,,hopefully this will losem up those sqeeking cheeks and NOT judge others on things oné didnt invent thrmselves...quit criticizing passionatte students and making Them feel like they arént GOOD enough just because they dont follow academias indictrinated bullcrap!! Teachers are sopposed to Help guide steer passions NOT through ice and Water on them.
Nicely said
Painters in the past have used camera obscura and camera lucida to capture images for reproduction, but I see it two ways, personally I can look at a scene and draw it quite well, I don't need such devices, on the other hand, if one cannot draw at all very well and use such a devise to get everything perfect and well, make out that they have done it without then I would consider this to be cheating.
I was watching sky arts Portraite artist of the year last night and one of the contestants used a tracing one judge said that’s cheating the other said it’s not the drawing it’s the painting that counts so I believe that we have the tools so why not use them there are quite a few professional artists who can’t draw and some who do and both use a tracings at some point I guess it’s what we think that counts as the only thing that matters is what we are happy with ..
I wonder if this is how they did i when they knocked off all the masters?
The old masters used a similar method
Your projector has the technical name of Epidiascope. Of course it isn't cheating.
Thank you
you cannot really project the image to a 90 times 100 cm canvas, can you?
It seems as if you lost information if you make the projected image bigger?
+pershingone I've never had a problem you don't need detail just enough to trace out the image
for photorealism you need as much detail as possible.
Have you tried projecting the image to a 60 times 90 cm canvas ?
Could you do a video in which you project it onto a bigger canvas?
Buy the proper projector....not the cheapest
I have a problem with proportions if I did'nt i'd be rich LOL
Me too
laptop+piece of glass and put paper on it ...
Problem is your limited to size and damage to the lcd screen
Camera Obscura.....
Yes Vermeer used one they think it's a similar idea
Clive
What you could do is trace a panel from a comic book. Blow it up on a giant canvas and sell it for hundreds of thousands of dollars. And when someone accuses you of cheating or copying you say you're not. Because the original cartoon panel barely qualified as art. The real art was copying it. I know what you're going to say....no one would believe that laughable con. But look it up...it actually happened.
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