MG Marvel R - I am sorry
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Such a weird review to me. The car has good looks, is way cheaper then others around it and has more features. The range on 1 charge is really good. The screen an absolute eyecatcher and compared to other brands, you dont have to get out of your seat to control it! Really the only downside to me is the lane departure warning system. This has to be turned off, because it is way to aggressive
Have you used it? It is not cheap for the range you get. Not amazing charging. High consumption. Horrible infotainment system. Not a lot of power. It has decent space and drives ok.
But for that price it is no match to many other cars on the market.
I have, multiple times. And i have also driven An id3 and ev6. To me, a Marvel is better equipped (only if you pay way more at vw or kia it is the same)and has way better looks (that's everybodys personal opinion of course). Kia has better fastnet charging possibilities, but i would never drive to spain or italy so that doesn't matter to me.
@@charleyaddiction you should have tried the new e Nero or Kona or skoda enyac etc
@@BatteryLife also the 4wd system does not work while in reverse gear, so when you get stuck in snow, the car is only rwd when trying to reverse out of it, also disables 4wd under 30% charge
@@BatteryLife coz MG is now owned by china company. This car should have so many problem and you will need to maintenance frequently very soon
Im an owner with more then 5000km of use and it's true that the central screen is laggy. This review makes it a big deal. I don't think it'a a big deal. After a month of use you get used to. It's like using the touchpad of a macbook and then try to use one from Asus. The one from Asus looks laggy.... At the end, it works very well, the overall satisfaction with the car is VERY HIGH. High standards of confort compared with other EV SUV from other brands. Did a Roadtrip during 10 days of a total distance of 1500km. The consumptions In highway around 20kw/h, at local roads 16kw/h. So im extremely satisfied. For daily use (~50Km/day) you can use your domestic plug. Everything controlled from your mobile app. The value for money is HIGH. I recommend and i think this reviews is trying to tag the car to the old idea that everything from China has poor quality. It's wrong. I understand the pro-german car narrative, but it's not true.
I am not pro German car. I am against an almost unusable screen. The experience was horrible. A phone 10 years old reacts better to a touch.
How can you live with barely zooming into the map to find a destination?
@@BatteryLife As i said. i did a 1500km roadtrip using the mg map and the only problem i faced was some outdated issues that i know that can be fixed (new map update is available). The screen is laggy, I admit, but not in a level to say it's the worst infotainment ever. I don't agree with that... Oh my god! there are hundreds of awful infotainments examples.... I think you were facing 4G issues that were interfering with the responsiveness of the infotainment. that's my best guess.
it's like saying "after a car crush I ended up on a wheelchair it's a drag but after a while you get use to it" ofcourse but it doesn't mean that is the best situation lol
@@lmcordeiro which one are worst than this give examples
It’s been a year since you have this conversation here… my question is, has there been software updates? To perhaps make the experience better? As to the infotainment system that is.
Man, I agree with some of the other reviews. I've tested the car and this is not a professional review or anything close to it.
I've seen some of your other reviews, and this one seems really biased, like you want the car to fail constantly. The best thing you have to say is "fine", when other cars do not have half of the features of this car for even 10K more.
Most other reviewers praise the suspension of this car, the seats, and the options you have.... things that for you are not good enough. "The worst infotainment system" when you come from owning an ID.3, which is agreed on the industry to be the worst, hands down: could not do OTA, it rebooted while driving, way more laggy that this car, completely unfriendly and hard to find anything (come on, you cannot even connect to a WiFi without getting lost on the menus)... and the App? the MG app is orders of magnitude better than anything that VW has to offer.
I am not sure why you did this review, but it would be more informative to compare to a similar priced car and see which one comes on top.
Sorry, very disappointed. I think you should have a review system and follow that same system for all cars.
They updated the infotainment system since then. Back then this was not useable. I don't want any car to fail.
@BatteryLife I'm sure that was not your intention, but looking at the reviews, you can see that the perception is odd.
First units of any car can and will have glitches. This is something you need to weigh in when analyzing and relativize.
You say that you cannot recommend this car... But would you choose a entry level ID.3 over the Marvel R?
A very strange test, I would not agree with most of what was said, I tested the car yesterday and I can say that there is nothing better on the market for that money. And if I ordered Polestar 2, I'm a little sorry that it wasn't Marvel. The ride was very comfortable and the sound insulation was at a very high level. The quality of materials, equipment and the experience of luxury was very good, when we look at it (luxury with 180 hp) it is at the level of the initial prices of id.3 and e-megan... My only complaint is the trunk and that I expected it to have lower consumption, because it has good prediapositions because it is quite light for an EV and it is the only one on the test site next to the Taykan that has a gearbox...
That is why it is called an opinion. You can have a different one. The car I tested was ok, not better than any other car. But the infotainment system was a horrible experience. They hopefully updated it.
@@BatteryLife At work, I drive Kia esoul and id.3 every day, I don't feel that these cars have a better infotainment system, and they are in the same price range. In particular, I would like to add that the id.3 is the ugliest interior I've ever sat in, including cars from the eighties, somehow it's more like sitting in public transport than in a modern car, there's terrible cheap plastic everywhere, the screen in front of the driver looks like someone attached one of those first mobile phones with a touch screen, and the seat material looked like it was made of plastic bags. With Kia, the situation is somewhat better, but the overall impression is very cheap. Both cars are good to drive, but the Marvel is really two classes above in terms of driving experience. Noise isolation is at the level of Etron and BMW ix at Marvel. Plus, I would add that MG gives a 7-year warranty on the whole car, really for that money you can't do better and more, if we're being honest...
@@BatteryLife We know it’s your opinion, we are just saying our opinion about your opinion here, don’t feel you have to defend your opinion or tell everyone it’s just your opinion, we know. 👍🏻
strange that you are 180cm, I am 183cm and your head touches the roof but mine doesn't. I went to the showroom yesterday, and so many things you have problems with worked just fine with me. I don't know if it's the car for me (maybe a little too big from the outside) but it seems a much better car than you say it is. I feel you started the review determined NOT to like it. By now I've seen many CZcams reviews on this one, but only one besides you said it wasn't a real contender. All say the car has several flaws, but if you don't take into consideration that you get fantastic value for less money than other brands, you're not being fair in my mind. Keep in mind that in every day use you can get around many of the flaws any car has. For example: if it takes a few seconds for the car to start up, just press the start button before putting on the seatbelt, and when you did that the car will be ready. It is still something to mention, but it hardly is something that will hinder you if you're used to it. You can't expect a Rolls Royce for €50000.
Very well said
Exactly what I observed also during this video, lots of prejudice.
He got out the wrong side of the bed the morning to review this car !
Not really. Driving for 3 hours with a horrible infotainment system, made me cranky though.
But I hope they updated it until then.
That Infotainment screen seams so unusable while driving! The KBA should test such things and reject the approval of cars with such flaws.
For me that increases accident hazard.
What about meb and change radio volume or change temperature... 🙄🤔
@@dot7107 Where is the problem?
I don’t agree at all, it’s a god car to drive and it’s stabil and not sencitive for wind at all. The performance is realey good, 0-100 km/h under 4,5 sec, and make 205 km/h
You are talking about the performance. This is the normal version.
@@BatteryLife And still the price you showed is what everyone pay for the performance model.
Stefan hi, you drive in sweden with this car, how you think it can manage in cold winter. Are you happy with this car now. I drive now with E-Niro and i want little more space and 4 wheel drive and more power. This car looks fine, but steering wheel heating i miss and i am little worried about chinese quality in longer using. Finland driver
@@cornerworks I don’t think you need to be worried about the quality
@@cornerworks the service cost is Way More expensive for the Kia. In winter I must say that elektric cars all over is a lack compared to petrol cars.
sorry BT but this review so subjective. you better get ix5 for double price and the sensational look.
I have an exact car, black luxury. I agree with some of the things you say but. You can open the trunk using your foot, no problem when you just know where to. Imagevideo in center screen when blinking, you can turn it of in settings, also regarding speedlimits.
Yes the centerscreen takes some time to get used to, after that it’s no problem. And you should not use it while driving, same as the phone. Voicecontrol works great (in english).
The car had it’s ”things” but after 1000 km in our car, we’re very pleased. Privatelease in Sweden is very economical. For us a ID4 would cost 30% more with lower standards
Newer buy annything made in CHINA!!!
You will regret soon. You would spend most of your time maintenancing the car
@@tikbrobro I´ve had a BMW:s and a Audi, both costing me around 12000 USD total in costs and months in dealerships being repaired. If something goes wrong with this, I just leave it so the dealership to fix with no cost for me and also a free rental
@@thescandinavian303 Good luck with that. I presume you wrote that on your device which I guess was made in China
@@marcushansson8139 just put your helad in the sand ,and wait for the big war!!!
The main problem is the battery of 65 KW and consumption...300 km of autonomy is not suitable for long trips.The equipment is quite fine for the money. I mean second hand 2022 version with 20000 km performance pack 4WD, the car is 33k€.That's unbeatable.
The Fastned (Alpitronic Charger) has 4 bays populated with a 75kW module each. The way these modules/power are distributed between the outlets depends on the configuration chosen by Fastned. If they chose 50/50 distribution or first in first serve. The first case give an even distribution between cars. Second case priorities the first car and give full power. In that case an EV6/Ionic5 can use all 4 modules and a second car has too wait. It’s hard to tell which config fastned has chosen. If possible don’t use the same stall as another car. You will always have the most power available if no one else are connected to the same Alpitronic charger.
I know.
@@BatteryLife few people know this unfortunately
Honestly, I really like this kind of real user review.
Very good video. Very honest opinion.
50 000€ is to much for that, mg should just stick to making sub 40 000€ ev`s instead.
Mg 5....
Well somebody had to make a infotainment system worse than VW iD, MG succeeded.
Yes, but as Chris mentions, the succeded making a good one in the MG5 ?!
It can't be worse than the one in my wifes ID3 and my Daighters VW golf, both are terrible , constantly crashing and needing updating....what is is with car companies why do they keep taking steps backwards !!
So the new MG5 has a good infotainment screen and UI? the original was bad.
I tested the MG5 a week before. Check it out
Allein schon die Platzierung des Infotainment ist Schlecht, beim ID3 muß ich wenigstens noch Richtung Frontscheibe schauen, aber bei dem MG bekomme ich gar nichts mehr vom Straßenverkehr mit, so tief unten wie das verbaut ist
Slow screen or poor testing, thats the question. The big screen is not the one you use for driving. You will use the screen behind the steering wheel. Yes the big screen is slower than a tablet or Phone, but it is also important to push the right place. I see a lot of error 40 in this demo.
You can call it what you want. I tested over 30 EVs. This is the worst experience and not useable like that.
You have to press very hard and hit very accurate.
And the infotainment screen is also being used while driving! Of course
I can't recommend this carreviewer. He is bias and negative.
I agree with your verdict. Sadly, this MG is a marvel in name only. 😳 With the similar size VAG crossovers being expensive, there is a market for an affordable competitor. The Marvel has good specifications on paper including new dedicated EV platform with RWD. Unfortunately the execution is not up to the VAG standard. Maybe the BYD cars on their new EV platform with blade battery might provide affordable options. Otherwise, the smaller ID.3 seems like a good choice, considering that it is quite spacious inside, comfortable and surprisingly quiet and stable at highway speeds. 😎
Then again, the VAG standard is extremely low already. Charging tops out at 125kW, efficiency isn't special, interior in the Volkswagen models is just hilariously bad, and software updates just can't get with the times.
@@Jeroenneman You are not up to date, VAG charges ~175 kW, not 125 kW.
Marvel is not a bespoke EV (in China)
@@abraxastulammo9940 It does not. Please provide a source where an ID.3/4/5, Enyaq or Q4 charges at 175kW. Only their most expensive products like the E-tron GT or Taycan charge at higher rates
thank you
When you add 20-25% to the pricetag sure, its not a lot of car for the money but where in the world does this cost 50k?!
I live in expensive Norway and this starts at 39k with a fully specced Performance model at less then 50k. That is a lot of car for the money.
Since you didn't pay taxes on EVs in Norway, the price fits with having 19% tax.
That screen is huge and I hate it! Give me a stripped back ev with a small screen! I was interested in the upcoming MG 4 Mulan but worried it will also have laggy screen
I know it's a not super new or exciting, but the Zoe 50 with the small screen is sooo nice and simple, snappy screen and zero glossy plastic.
Mg4 will have the no interior look so perfect for the ppl that dont want a cockpit. expect the Navigation to be mg5 like
No need to apologise. I wasn't going to buy one anyway.....
He is biased, just like a Danish “car reviwer”. They don´t know How to test a car. All is about “German Way of car’s”.
Yes, I am biased towards a working infotainment system.
infact what he does is a "user test" just giving his opinions go buy car magazine where the don't test the car but just reapeat press release...like with car consuption
The taste is like a buttock - Divided!
I have had ID3 since the beginning but have switched to Marvel Performance. I think the infotainment is better and more logical than the ID3. Except for the responsiveness of course.
Apple carplay uses the whole screen and is mega awesome.
The performance variant is extremely fast. 0-100 can be done in 4.4 seconds.
And it costs as much as an ID3 with some extras.
Nobrainer for me to choose the Marvel above the ID3.
In Germany the non performance marvel r is more expensive than an Id.3
i fully understand your switch. The starter price of the ID3 might just be below the Marvel R.
the id3 dos not even come with aluminium wheels. each option and there are loads of them cost more.
ID cars are all abouth building as cheap as posible but overpricing as much as posible.
the inside is the best example of that there is no interiur ....
The Marvel looks amazing and congrats.
What MG needs to do is increase the battery and ad charging point to there navigation when selecting long trips
Then its a compleet no brainer more car with all the options on th market for cheaper price
@@clipsonplextorfield3230 that's German cars in a nutshell. You get the wheels and steering wheel rest is bloody options PER ITEM/component.
Heck even the alarm was an option!
It's more simple to look at Korean cars, 1-3 levels of kit and that's it.
Same with the MG ZS and Marvel, you got two options, simple. MG 5 is great for its price but the ZS just wins because of the range imo.
Tesla, simplicity in its very few options.
When I tried to configure an id.4 at my local dealer many options collided that simply wasn't compatible, such as colors... Like really? I just gave up at that point.
Had a similar experience when i bought my Polo 2012, so many options wasn't compatible in the configurator but it was physically possible...
VAG, in a nutshell 😂
@@AlanTov check the configurator in Sweden.
@@AlanTov Not in most countries. In the Netherlands, not even adaptive cruise control is standard..
Worst infortainment system you ever had, worst than first version of the ID.3? I did not even think that would be possible.
Yes, way worse.
strange looking car... a bit of audi (rear), a bit of citroen C5X (front),...
the passenger mirror light didn't work: "maybe someone has to sit there?"
Well, you're the reviewer, TRY IT !!!
It didn't work
Dangerous! It’s illegal to use your phone but fine to fiddle around with an infotainment system that’s positioned towards the floor. It shouldn’t even be allowed to go on sale.
The worst infotainment is in the ID 3 admit that !! By far
Not at all. VW ID infotainment system has a lot of problems and software is bad.
But I can work with it, find a destination on the map, don't have to press like crazy for the system to do something.
Again, MG5 had a great system. I don't know what changed.
@@BatteryLife ja well thats because you own one 😊 but you have to deal with a lot of corners before getting to the point there , at all times its annoying ! Of course anyone can live with there own infot. System after a certain time. VW s is Just bad like thei say in the US " period "
Great looking car, but sadly quite a few flaws, one thing that struck me was that the wheels look too small, would like to see bigger wheels on this, wonder what that would look like and if that affected the performance
They are 19 inch
consumption is already high on the 19 increasingthem was not going to great.
Mg needs to update there battery size
What is the thing with the wheels? Why those need to be 27" and profile 15? Last 20 y 15 and 16" was totally adequate size, but not anymore. Bigger wheels and lower profile: more noise, more wheel and rim damages, consumption increases, more expensive
I have 21inch wheels on mine 🙂 looks really nice. 0-100 performance did not change, and my average consumption is 21kwh/100km, thats ok.
This car has voice control system.
That would be a poor way to interact with the infotainment system.
This guys reviews are hilarious ( not in a good way).😂 he is soo negative its ridiculous and 😂.
I recommend it better than a gas car.
Such a weird and hectic documentation……. Not good
This, zs ev and 5 are great attempts from saic. They will learn about their "mistakes" so the next models will be much better
Looks good but range a bit disappointing
You make the infotainment look horrible but is’t only you who can’t handle it. I’ve tried it out actually and it’s far FAR from that horrible that you make it look actually. So in future learn the car before showing it off
In this car it was!
All the videos i have seen the screen is laggy and unresponsive
Für mich ein extrem überteuertes Auto mit schwächen.
Very comprehensive review, great job. Shame about the car.
👍👍👍👍👍
Not true, sounds like a hater if you ask me.
MG4 is bether than your vw id 3
We'll see
So biased review. Well this channel is dead.
Honestly these MG cars are really bad
Not at all compared to that, that these models are their first european market models. Next facelift will be great improvement, chinese will learn from their mistakes and they want to come to european markets big time
@@dot7107 Future facelifts will probably be better but that is not what they are selling.
@@rhiantaylor3446 Well do you remember 10-15 y ago and hyundai (sonata) or kia (ceed) first gen models? Those were not so nice from in or outside and what those manufacturers cars are now. Every manufacturer need to start from somewhere and this model doesn't look that bad at all.
@@dot7107 well sure, but there are a TON of Chinese Brands out there...and many of them are better than this... I mean the Daewoo cars were always trashy imo, never really moved up, if you give Korea as an example.
@@tzarcoal1018 Yes there is a lot chinese startups in markets right now. We surely will see who survive and who will vanish after 3-4 years. Chinese surely cannot build up ice powertrain, but who knows how their ev's will survive?
Thx for this, it saves me from buying this car🥲
Mind you that this review has been made last year… for all we know, mg has already made the necessary updates to address the problems cited here.