LionSteel M7 Knife Field Test and Review
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2014
- Field test and review of LionSteels M7 A big Drop Point. The M7 is a big somewhat heavy drop point knife aimed, I believe, at people who want to chop rather than cut. Please do not comment that a saw is easier. Of course it is. This review is not about comparing hand saws or hatchets to knives.
If you carry the M7 you may need to carry a smaller more practical knife, ie for hunting and fishing purposes (I certainly did).
The M7 is good for chopping and possibly felling small trees, diameter no greater than 4 inches. I batoned with it (footage not included) it performs well as it is really just a big wedge. .It's very comfortable to hold and swing about and that's because some thought has gone into the handle design.
The rounded spine makes the knife this size actually quite comfortable to use. *see my blog here.
You can't use it for fishing, it's way too big I tried and made a mess of things. Ok you can cut steaks from big freshwater fish eg catfish etc but not possible to gut with it's too wide. You can hammer with it but it may void the warranty. Way too heavy for a hunting knife and ergonomics not well suited.
Chopping vegies I found it was ok in this respect for food prep. You can use it to crack crustaceans open if u catch any. The scabbard has too many bolts in it to loose in the wilds u wont be taking any allen keys this small to fix it
The scabbard belongs in the percussion section of an orchestra. It needs more thought for people who really will use this knife. I bet, Mmmmmmmmm???? I thinks best purpose hidden in a bug out vehicle???
The M7 is very difficult to remove from the scabbard, this has it's pluses as it is very secure but minuses as it won't be liked by some.
Infact I see on Blade forums someone has had a very nice leather scabbard made for the M7.
Ok seriously the M7 will be good for people who like to make creature comforts in camp where "camp" is 20km walk at least away from any vehicles, using it for fishing and hunting (struggling LOL) but just want that one Big Knife.
It did stay sharp that's one thing. The LionSteel M7 is capable in skilled and unskilled ( I mean to say little outdoor experience) hands to do a lot
I haven't had to sharpen it in about just under two months now but this is relative to what one does with the knife, suffice it to say, i'd expect this for the cost of this knife and reputation of LionSteel as a manufacturer.
Finally a note why I tested the M7 knife. there is a trend at present for people buying big knives, let's face it almost all manufacturers have one to several models in their line up but how practical are they, and for what???
Well check out this latter point with a forthcoming video seeing this LionSteel M7 in action again in a mountainous environment and gathering food etc, so stay tuned.
Update after over a years use now
The M7 does rock overall. It's a big tough hard as nails, stay sharp (great Sleipner steel) very well made and thought out knife overall. Well suited for "survival" tasks if the need arises.
BCT
See my blog for a full description of this large blade.
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Right on; another great no BS review that highlights your field experience; the good and not so good features and how you employed this particular knife.
+jagervw Thanks man! I try to tell it like it is and let you guys and gals decide whether any of my gear is going to sit right OR wrong with your uses and experiences.
Thanks for yet another interesting and insightful real world review.
Have a Good One Fella.
Cheers!
Hi thanks for saying so and thanks for watching! I really appreciate comments such as yours. Glad you like my videos!
Seems to be one of the best all-round camp knives out there. And it looks very good.
Hi, yeah I reckon that's a pretty good summation. There is a lot of attention to even the small detail in the design of this knife. For example even though the spine is nicely rounded enabling one to place their hands upon it and deliver a lot of cutting pressure, the edges are very acute and one can easily still strike a fire steel there. The handle can easily accommodate a wide range of hand sizes, especially smaller hands without the user feeling "it's too big" . Yeah I'm still loving it LOL! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this review. I think you did a great job, very thorough. 👍
Glad it was helpful! Many thanks for watching!
i bought this knife based on this review,and it's awesome,great chopper,great edge..i split a wooden pallet in half in 10 min..only down side is the raddle of sheath,but i fix that with warming the sheath by space heater and pressing it closer to the blade..no raddle anymore.
+Dean007 Hi thanks for your comments. I try my best to select what knives i believe to be good tools for different purposes. The choice is always up to the individual as to whether a certain tool/knife is good for them or completely wrong or they simply hate it all together. But of course I really appreciate when I get comments like yours and am very glad to see them here. Thanks for watching and liking my vids.
Rattle
Thank you for another excellent review. The basic design is one that I love, but what a headache trying to find such a knife in stainless steel from various production companies. I know of one custom knife-maker willing to use 440C on the basic knife design, with a 6" blade instead of 7." But that's fine. Sometimes you just have to spend the extra money to get what you really want.
Totally agree and this knife would be so that much better if it was "proper" stainless. Then I'd say hey yeah, I'm taking on all my coastal/island stuff.
Great review. I'm getting one now!
Arock PCB Hi and thanks. You won't regret it. Can't beat a big drop point for simplicity and practicality in the wilds. If you look after this knife ( don't try cutting down steel doors with it) then the Sleipner will stay sharp too.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome review & quite informative, cheers dude, 😎👍👍
Hi, much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
Excellent review!
Thanks!!! many, many thanks! it was a lot a fun making it!
Excelent review thanks for the corrosion advise.nice river crossing.
Hi thank you for watching!
Great review 🎉❤
Many thanks!
Thank you for the video. I was thiking about getting this one as a replacement for my ESEE, because i have had rust issues on trips multiple time. Now that i know i will look for something else...
Hi, u know I cleaned up that surface rust and it never came back. I think it was that I had it in water for over a week. Of course Sleipner isn't stainless and that happened. Initially, I was pretty angry about it as the knife wasn't cheap but on suggestion from Molletta himself, I fixed it up. But yeah fair play!
Anything with N690 Co may be the ticket as it also cuts well. You can try Falkniven A1? It's VG-10
Just got myself a lionsteel m3 in niolox steel,love it.Refined the edge and convexed a bit. Rust not an issue as use mineral oil and already have carbon steels. Love the cnc santos wood handles and leather sheath. niolox is c= 0.8 chromium = 12.7 molybenum= 1.1 vanadium 0.9 and niobium= 0.7. Niobium one of best carbide formers shame there is so little.
+Aey - Anna Pibulsilp That's great, I'm thinking of getting one too soon.
That's the thing with Niobium, a little goes a long way and tons more won't do much! It's that way!
Great review, good commentary, nice knife,
Thanks, it is nice but still not 100% convinced. Not so great I reckon for Oz though, as u know everything burns and I and I'm sure u have never had to baton anything to start a fire. I've been blogging about the knife too so check that out as well for more info
Yeah man, ive never had to baton wood in my life, I think Stainless Steel is best for where I go, but I do like carbon steels, its hard to find that one perfect knife.
czechmate9591 You know u are right about that. I'd love to be able to give some designs to a good manufacturer and see what they can do. I've had a couple promise but nothing ever transpired from that. I think this M7 is not going to on many trips with me at least not long ones where I have to walk more than 10km in a day plus, it's sturdy but then it is one big chunk of steel at the end of the day. After using it I think the blade is far too wide. See if I'm still making vids of it in 3 months time. I'll be in Oz maybe if you are around we can hook when I'm in Sydney
Nice review. The reason for the corrosion at the tip of the blade is there is black sponge pad inside the bottom of the sheath which absorbs and holds the water in direct contact with the blade, that's why it didn't corrode anywhere else. However if you remove it the knife will rattle severely. I removed mine and poked a piece of inner tube down which doesn't hold water.
+mick of south staffs Hi I'm not sure mine was ever in the sheath, as my knife rattles like no tomorrow and I'd never take this knife on my belt if hunting but hey I'll check it anyways but I think it's missing and was only put on later production models as a many had complained of this with this knife. That being said, I really like this blade and it works for me. Thanks for your comments too, really appreciated!
+Bush Camping Tools yes I agree. This is NOT a complaint as it turns out this knife is superb and the performance is top notch and a great choice of blade steel.
Yes, I know you weren't complaining don't worry. As regards to the blade steel, Sleipner really gives D2 a run for it's money and I was surprised at how well it held it's edge whislt I was using it. I never posted it but you should have seen the giant catfish I cut up with this blade.........no problems! and that was after about two months of in the field with it almost everyday.
+Bush Camping Tools I know the lower chromium precips has made it easier to sharpen than D2. Keep the vids up buddy.
Thanks man!
This will become my new kitchen knife! I’ve used the Lionsteel M3 so far, which works, but the blade is just a bit too short at 10.5 centimeters.
LOL all of my kniffies see some "kitchen duties at some time or other LOL! Thanks for watching!
@@BushCampingTools I prefer to use “proper” knives as kitchen knives over official kitchen knives for some reason! 🤪
of course you can compare to d2 as 12 percent chromium is tied up in the higher carbon content. just look at zdp 189 20 percent chromium but alot tied up in the 3 percent carbon so less stainless than vg 10. niolox will be tougher than d2 and have better edge stability.
What blade do you prefer in the bush? AUS 8 or D2 ?
You didn't ask me, but Aus8 will bend & roll as opposed to chip & snap off...much better to steel a blade or bend back straight than lose material!
How has it held up over the year w.r.t corrosion. Would you recommend the m7 today. Thanks.
Yes I would still recommend it today and the corrosion issue was no more after a decent cleaning. There were some unusual environment factors happening for that video I later found out from a metallurgist. If you are interested I an elaborate on what he told me. BTW he isn't connected with Lionsteel knives LOL.
@BushCampingTools thanks for the reply. I am interested in the observations of the metallurgy person.
The m7 is my favorite knife it out chops all the big knives I have except my el chete or some of my condor machetes
yes the M7 is a top dollar knife.
Sleipner is the replacement of D2 Steel ? that means its better right ?
No, according to Uddeholm, it's not, but remember they are talking about mainly applications for tooling etc. D2 has more (in general) soluble Chromium and hence should be more (and it is in practice) resistant to corrosive effects from general outdoor usage. Sleipner has other more favourable properties for equivalent tooling applications. As for knives, well it depends on what environment one would be primarily working in. eg for salt water coastal, I wouldn't be taking either of my D2 or Sleipner blades given the choice of my other stainless alloys BUT if one can regularly be able to wash with clean fresh water (so water is no problem) then for sure a non stainless alloy is fine. I've certainly done it on uninhabited islands with out only stainless stuff being a Leatherman multitool and carbon bladed machetes. Every so often there is much marketing towards what is the next best steel. It's all end user/environment dependent.
thank you .
How do you like this compared to the FX 132?
Hi I don't like to compare knives as the design and build of the Fx132 is quite different BUT I'd say I found the FX132 more "useful" to me. I used it for over 3 months straight last year, it was submerged in a river whilst I filmed for about half a day on and off for at least 30 min intervals. Since i'ts N695 no probs with rusting. It's lighter of course as well. The design though means u really have to be good at sharpening as it's really got three types of edges, so requires slightly different techniques to sharpen whereas (I haven't had to sharpen it yet) the M7 will be pretty straight forward. I didn't see a difference in edge holding of N695 Vs Sleipner BTW. Despite the tang being milled out in the FX132 (I don't show this but it is) I think it is more than strong enough for the toughest tasks a good knife should encounter during real use.
Bush Camping Tools What I should say is that I do plan on using the M& extensively in a tropical jungle environment later this year and also outback Australia and I think the M7 will perform very well there
I really like this knife design, but a bummer about the ease of rust. Especially for a survival/wilderness knife. Do you think the black one might better guard against that?
Witch Hammer Ok so I should clarify re the rust. Yes Sleipner will rust if not looked after (like many steels if the conditions are harsh enough) but i did clean it up and it was as good as gold and has not since shown any issues at all and I am very pleased with this knife. The M7 is a great knife for survival and provided you're not stuck on an island surrounded by salt water or stranded in a mangrove estuary, then the M7 is getting pretty close to the ants pants as far as practicality goes. Let's face it it is a proven blade shape i.e. drop point and it's big and strong.
The black oxide coating will provide little corrosion protection. Sleepiness is not considered a true stainless steel. The higher the hardness of a stainless steel the less Cr there is in what metallurgists call "solid solution" this means effectively that there is less Cr present to help prevent corrosion, (because it's ties up in carbide formation) all things being equal. Simply by polishing the outer finish of the blade will help to keep this blade material in top shape (This was also confirmed to me by Uddeholm ) and that's why LionSteel provide the knife with a very good surface finish. Their black version is really semi cosmetic. Chemical blackening as i said will only slightly provide a little help against the elements. Hope that answers your question.
Witch Hammer Oh yeah what I should have said too was this Sleipner steel like really held an edge like no tomorrow and I was cutting stuff covered in dust and river silt. Did you see the other review I did with this knife in a mountainous environment?
Bush Camping Tools
Thanks for the response, that's very good to hear. I did watch both reviews I believe. I am looking for a good survival knife and this one is at the top of my short list.
Witch Hammer Put it this way, I wouldn't be worried in the slightest if this was with me in a sh*T hits the fan situation. It's very well made and tough. I did loads of batoning with it too of majorly super hardwoods such as plum, cherry, walnut and oak and as `i said never had a problem. I didn't put up those vids, as when I'm in the wilds camping etc, I never really need to be doing this sort of stuff and try not to give any wrong impressions about the real practical usage of the knives I review here in the field.
After using my m7 for awhile, I would say the blade stains like crazy. It's hard to clean off. I'm not sure if it's the satin finish and all the micro grooves. I just use autosol to try to get most of the stains off but it never comes off completely. It's a user so it doesn't have to be perfect.
Also, had rust problems around the scales and lanyard section . I'm gonna take off the scales to check under it.
My environment is jungle.
With that said, the edge holds very well. Performance is good but maintenance is high.
Is it true this knife hurts to chop with?
As in hurt the wallet LOL?
Seriously, not unless there is something wrong with your hands. Thanks for watching!
it is a sick blade
I have the black version and dude that coating just never comes of
Also bytheway if you use a little sunglasses pouch/sack with a drawstring around the knife and then put in the sheath you dont have any more rattlle
its pronouncet slaihpner its german:)
luv the vid
subbed too
Hi Mart thanks for the comments, yes the black version won't come off because the process physically changes the metal surface, i've got some other knives that have been similarly treated. Yeah I don't pretend to speak German so sorry to everyone for mis-pronunciations ! I must make a better effort here. Thanks for subbing too.
Thanks for the great review! One comment on safety... hard to tell because of the video resolution I watched this at, but it looks like you had your waist belt on while crossing that swift river. I don't think that is safe: too hard to shed your gear if you're swept off your feet. If I'm wrong about that, please excuse me.
Ruster Kat Hi no no you are correct and it was pretty stupid of me. Usually I've got the gear stowed but I wanted to show the knife getting a dunking! Especially this river as it was about to flood and it did a day later. You can't see it but the ground was totally saturated. In fact I never crossed it again for over a month. To the right of me you can see a submerged snag, it's been there for years and to my left (view of my back) there are no snags but since the river was rising anything could have been there and you ar right, if I got swept off m feet, don't want some webbing getting caught up. Great of you to point this out to me! More concentration on safety than filming might be in order!! Thanks for our comments. I'm filming again in some rain forests, so this is wake up call for me.
Am i correct in guessing that this knife has a ka-bar like stick tang?
Seems like a bad idea to put ordinary slab-handle screws through a tang like that
I am really starting to appreciate the elegance of tapered tang rubber handle knives like Fällkniven or Scrapyard
VicariousReality7 I wouldn't call it a stick tang it is very much more beefy and I very much doubt I could break it by hanging off it. It's very thick (as the spine of course), yes it does taper but there is so much metal there, breaking under extreme use (not abuse) is not an issue. You can't compare it to the geometry of say the KBar or Ontario stick tangs. I've also got a well used (and sometimes abused) Ontario Spec plus and it with it's stick tang (even under moderate prying) hasn't let me down (in over 20 years!)
How much metal?
in the ontario or the M7? The M7 is pretty thick and the funky handle integrated as part of the tang sort of makes it very strong.I'll have to do a
hanging test!
You do not know.
sorry I have no idea what u are asking me, if you mean price??? then the Ontario cost me 50USD a long time ago. The M7 I can't remember off hand. If you are asking how much metal for the tangs then there are images all ver google images of both tangs.
Anybody try the Fox FX-140 XL MB compared to this?
Hey Francis, have you still been using the M7? If so what are your thoughts on it now?
I bought one a couple of years ago and it is the one I normally carry on my hiking trips, the only downside for me is that it isn't stainless as I live in NZ it is normally wet the water tends to hang around in the sheath and start rusting the edge, so maintenance is a must.
Fixed the sheath rattle by heating it and squashing it in more.
I pair it with a small fixed blade or a good folder for the finer tasks.
It is the most comfortable knife I have ever handled, the handle is amazing and the rounded spine with no gimping suits me.
Hi Andrew, your summary of the handle is spot on. I have no regrets buying mine at all. Yes NZ been there several times and trekking a bit. I know that kind of weather you speak of and why it would be necessary to make sure the knife is well maintained. BTW do u use a good quality silicone gun grease? Smear it on and wipe it off, leaves a layer of hydrophobic film all over it. As for mine, it hasn't been out that often, as I'm thinking about putting it away for my kid. I still think it's a well designed knife and comfortable. The sheath I haven't done the rattle thing yet but probably will at some stage if it does end up going out hunting with me again. I do use it but it hasn't been filmed of recent times. Maybe I'll do a revisit of it soon.
@@BushCampingTools I have been using a product called CLP as it is readily available from our quarter master store, it is used for rust prevention on rifle barrels and parts and does great on the knife too. Only downside is it is not safe for food prep with that product but I don't use the m7 for food prep anyway. I will give the silicone gun grease a try though and see how it goes.
Yes I would love to see a revisit on this knife from you, a long in depth one like your older vids as they were my favourites.
Keep up the good work.
@@andrewpedersen5071 Hi, Ok your on! And thanks for that tip re the CLP stuff too. Must get over to NZ again sometime! I have some semi funny hunting stories and such from there.
Hey Aey - Anna Pibulsilp, sorry can't reply to your posts directly you must have some settings switched off??? Anyway Yeah I did look at those Niolox models, very very nice indeed!
how do you like niolox?
Hi, at present I do not have any practical experience with this alloy being used for knives. I haven't had a chance to read up (scientific publications) on it either, just read the usual general comments around the internet regarding use in outdoor knives. Sorry I can't advise at this point. It also depends upon how carefully/what process of manufacture of raw material, they make it, whether such small amounts Nb really do anything I don't know. I'll see what I can dig up. Ok you'd have to read this paper (www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921509314013446) carefully, where they use only 0.02% Nb, remembering this is laboratory testing.
Still have this knife?
You bet I do and love it!
If you cut some peaces of packing foam put them down in the sheath it stops rattle and protects the tip.
Thanks for the tip!
It's a great hunting knife for Moose and African Game!
For sure a big hunting knife. I've never shot a Moose but they look to be the size of a horse!
The sheath thing is weird. I've never had a knife get scratched from kydex. Didn't know that could happen
Never worried me.
I have different kits with different knives my main kit I carry has the m7 the joker nomad and the offgrid alpha dog another has a rat7 joker lynx and offgrid tracker and condor terrasaur I sometimes add my cold steel recon tanto or esse6 3d plus pocket knives and Glock20 or 40
That's the way to do it for sure! I'm sort of the same too.
I don't bother with the retaining strap. It's really stuck in there, literally impossible to fall out. Also my kydex doesn't rattle. They stuff a sponge piece in the tip of the kydex from the factory
You can stuff a foam earplug in yours. It's a simple solution that they are doing from the factory now.
I actually didn't want to buy this knife because of your complaint but I went into the local knife shop and also that sample had zero rattle and great retention.
Just a FYI for people interested in the knife now 2016. They have addressed the rattle.
Oops I see that someone mentioned the sponge piece
Hi thanks for your comments. yes I did send an email to LionSteel about these issues after the review was done and looks like they listened to me. Thanks for mentioning these things here anyway. It will be useful for people considering this knife. This is now my second knife made with Sleipner. Despite it not being classified as a "stainless steel" it's other properties, such as edge holding and toughness are great asets for outdoor knves. The just need to be looked after if getting wet and slimy. To be honest I was doing a lot of work in and around a river so this was pretty demanding on a non-stainless knife. If you haven't and you are interested you can go to my blg about te M7 and there is a technical repy from the technical people at Udderholm regarding Sleipner. Once again, thanks for watching and commenting.
Put packing foam in the sheath it stops rattle and holds the knife in.
Great easy fix, thanks for posting and thanks for watching my vids!
it has alot to do with carbon to chromium content ratio not accounting other metals. 12 percent chromium divided by 1.5percent carbon equals 8. sleipner is 7.8 percent divided by .9 carbon equals 8.6666. yes over simplification not accounting for other carbide formers but chromium gets tied up in carbon to form carbides. zdp 189 is notoriously rusty 20 percent chromium divided by 3 percent carbon equals 7. more vanadium will leave more chromium for rust resistance.
Kydex Sheath Rattle is an easy fix...
I like it... Mine will replace my battered BK7 (Camp Buddy).
Too right! Thanks for watching and commenting.
If your outdoor knife has less than 10% chrome you should really have a coating or paint on it
VicariousReality7 Not necessarily so. It depends on the environment you use the knife in and duration etc and of course maintenance of the blade. A factor that most people forget is surface finish. This plays a major role even in high Cr "stainless) blades, along of course with the heat treatment that also affects the resulting resistance to oxidation. By surface finish I mean what knife manufacturers and steel manufacturers will know, ie for uncoated non stainless grades AND uncoated Stainless grades, the surface should be free of imperfections to help resist oxidation. So meaning mirror polish beats satin beats little finish milled surface beats straight milled surface.
holy shit where are you filming this
Hi thanks for watching! LOL, well that's my "secret location" (one of them!) but it wasn't in Australia that time. Two days after that the entire valley was under water!
Gramps, You almost got swept away there.
LOL, it was very dangerous but the dumb thing I did, I can't believe after year and years of crossing rivers like this, canyoning and caving, including 2 expeditions, where one I was leading, I was so stupid in this case not to remove that damn belt and put the knife in the pack along with even not using that pack on this crossing as there were too many straps to get caught on submerged snags etc. So I was lucky! Experience can also breed complacency and normally I'd not be trying to film things so maybe I'd be more concentrated on what I should have ben doing before leaving the bank! It was fun though!
LOL re the "gramps" too! I felt like crap this morning after only 45min of Judo training last night- although it was 30C in the Dojo LOL!
09-2019: $233.99Gads
It's very well made in all departments. The finish is excellent. I did have it in my hands several times in the store deciding between the M7 and a similar but somewhat blocky handle of a Knife Research model. In the end I went with the M7. I can't remember exactly but if that is USD you are quoting then it was probably around that price in Aust Dollars.
I've used a few knife manufactor's, and I like mid size blades, of around 6"-7" blades, I also try to buy a knife for the best bang, so far, the Swamp Rat Knives, for the money, are the best, rather then telling us the good fact's about a knife, I think we viewers, would appreciate a face off between different knife companies, just a suggestion, this way we can see if it's worth the bang. For instence, I got a Rodent 6 without the top gaurd, it looks like a beefy Ratmandu on steriods, it's a thick, saber grind, with a choil, so it's like two knife sizes in one, and the steel, is right up my alley, a face off would be nice.
Hi thanks for your comments here. Yes I've had many folks who visit here suggest I do as you put it, a "face off" between similar knives. I've been trying to get some American knife manufacturers on board for sample but unfortunately no luck so far. I guess this is dues to such a low subscriber number, despite producing some fairly professional video reviews. (BTW thanks for linking the comment too- this all helps to bring people here). I'm not getting paid any revenue at all for these reviews so I can't really pay for all of these knives I'd like to review (and there are many LOL). At present I'm trying to show some manufacturers what I can produce with the hope that they will send me "samples" in return for free full HD video reviews and several blogs re their products. Some manufacturers are doing this but so far none of these are US based.
Secondly you are right in what you say about getting" the most bang for your buck". I'll look into these knives you suggest.
Once again thanks for your comments.
BCT
Send Trissy a e-mail, she's a wonderful lady at customer service at Swamp Rat, as much as I luv my Swampies, I understand they are a small company, and not alot of people know about them, Swamp Rat is a sister company of Busse Combat, explain to her what you told me, and maybe they could help some how, and good luck, I think your on the right track, with God all thing's are possible.
Hey man thanks for the tip!
Say Heah Joe, Yeah, Your Knife looks, Or I should say my Ratweiler looks a little like your knife. Both look awesome, my kind of knife, I was lucky when I bought mine on a short run, I got the 1/4" version, in that run it was also available in the 3/16" thickness, Mine also is 7 3/4" X 1/4" of a SR101 Steel, I try using it as a One Tool Option, But I made my own makeshift Piggyback and I teamed up mine with a Rodent Solution, a near perfect match. I'm glad I got this video, Because that's the knives I brought with me and just my Bacho Laplander, It was 70° in the morning and now it's snowing hard, I knew about the weather, So I wanted to simulate what happened to us on one trip. So I wanted to see how my carry would fare, I also brought some flour and stuff to male Bannock with jelly, butter and pre-cooked bacon, Although a few miles away are Mc Dee's, and B K's and other restaurant's, But in front of our cabinets, I cook my food, I got to get used to this cold over over again, I'm just glad I brought warm cloths, Thanx You for sharing the knife, I just checked it out, I might get one. It's just a little more than what I paid for my Ratweiler. ,, .
Hi Definitely recommend the M7 for sure! You will love it.
Yeah, I like a robust knife, Infact a 7" blade, I consider as a good survival knife. I like the fact it's more corrosion proof than the rust magnet of a carbon blade, Although If you use your knife alot, It forms a natural patina, like mine do. But yeah, I think I will get one, Have you any info how that steel compares to 3V ?. ,, .
No mate sorry, I've got no knives in 3V as yet.
It's a pretty good Blade Steel. ,, . Infact I had my Skookum Bush Tool made in 3V. ,, .
Looks alot like a kabar Becker
LOL, nothing like the Becker mate. I've had one in my hands many times. Thanks for watching
arrr nice arrr knife aarrr but arrr couldn't arrr last it arrr out aaaa with arrrr all the arrrrrrs
LOL!!!!!!
@Strive-2-Survive grow up dick head. learn what a sense of humour is tool
Stick sum Velcro in it
yeah that would work although i don't bother these days with it. I just use it as is, it's a great model of theirs in many respects.
Thanks for watching!
Its pretty, but for the price I would just rock a Busse. I don't think Godzilla could void their warranty!
i have this knife and its great, however would love to see it in o1 tool steel......and busse is 3 times the price....would love to have a busse but a little out of my price range at 700$
Eh--you could grab a Team Gemini for similar--they're asking for around $350-ish. I was looking at the lionsteel website and they're asking 240 euros. Or pounds--whatever. I don't know the xact exchange, rate, but but that sounds pretty similar. Regardless--it DOES look like a great knife, and I would be happy with one, I'm sure. I'm just a little biased, is all.
Hi, I bought mine in Europe and I thought the price was reasonable, can't remember off the top of my head exactly now what I paid but I didn't think it was crazy. Also I got a bit of a discount as I buy a lot of stuff from the same store. Yes I think those Busse knives look good too, just haven't got one yet :)!
No probs! It is a great knife and I was only in a shop yesterday and telling the owner how I really like this knife. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
O1 toolsteel would be good if you don't plan on getting the knife wet all the time. I do think O1 is very good as a tool steel choice for knives, although D2 probably has better corrosion resistance (still better than Sleipner steel).
YOu might do what real woodsmen do and carry a hatchet. Only CZcams incest makes otherwise sensible people go out in the woods and beat their knife with a club. There's a saying in the woods. "The bigger the knife, the bigger the fool." It's true. Got news for you. You can baton with a hatchet better than you can with a knife. It's silly to think you always swing a hatchet. Or amateurish, I guess. Buy a real woodsman knife, which means one with a blade small enough to be good for CUTTING. Then do the woodsman thing and buy a hatchet and a saw. And get one with either 1095 or 01 tool steel. If you want stainless, which you shouldn't, get either SV 30 or, better, CM 154. It's immensely silly to keep seeing CZcams incest at work. Seriously, get rid of that sword, and buy a real woodsman knife.
+James Ritchie Hello James, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos and more importantly to write your thoughts down here for not only me but everyone else to read. Yes CZcams "incest" as you put it plays some role in what people not only review but also what many want to see. I can't argue there. You will see that on this channel BushCampingTools I review (not necessarily advocating) many sized knives other than these "large choppers" so I am not polarized to such large knives. Generally when I'm out I always take two knives, a small one and larger one. I figure after 35 years plus of wilderness experience over both hemisphere from the tropics to the alpine regions of the planet, I might have something to offer. I do not purport to know all, I certainly don't and have an abundance to learn.
If I'm hunting and or out on long trips and am walking in very far up to 20km I'll only take a medium sized blade. There is no argument of the usefulness of axes and hatchets, I simply do not review them, not because I don't like them ( As a youngster my dad only ever used a hatchet on our camping outings) but simply because as of yet I have not reviewed any as there are many channels on CZcams which give excellent reviews of hatchets and their usefulness. Likewise I would not say that a hatchet can serve you well for everything outdoors. It is not about satisfying everyones "favorite outdoor tool/s" it's about showing some models as honestly as possible and letting my audience make up their own minds.
For example, in this review about the LionSteel M7, a knife I deliberated over buying for many weeks on how useful it would be for me ( as they are not a cheap knife to buy,) walking in and out of the store, probably annoying the owner to the point of them saying "here just take the keys to the cabinet and lock it up when you are finished", I eventually bought it. It WILL NOT be everyone's cup of tea, that's for sure. I never say anything of the sorts. As to how useful an outdoor tool is to someone, in my experience, I would say should be based on that person's experience and thus skills with whatever it happens to be: for example the choice of buying a 243 Vs or a different calibre rife for identical game, there will be endless arguments, just check out rifle reviews. (BTW my choice is for a 243 LOL).
Yes saws are very useful too and certainly in skilled hands, a good saw will cut down small saplings much faster than a large chopper knife. A saw too is also easily damaged if not used correctly or in a rush. Axes will fell a tree safely if you know what you are doing. You'll be a month of Sundays with a knife, if at all. Hatchets are great too.
No one is saying you can baton better with a knife. Of course a hatchet can baton better as it is just like a hammer. Where I come from almost no one batons unlike in the Northern hemisphere, as everything in Australia will burn, green, or wet; if seriously wet material is removed etc and this is due to the types of trees growing there. If one is talking about working primarily in the tropics then ones choice might be for a machete or parang. Everyone's choice will be different. Maybe where you come from is different for sure and of course the world's wilderness varies immensely. To be honest I've worked in many countries in the "outdoors" and am yet to run into the "bigger the knife the bigger the fool" however, I don't deny you that this saying exists. I have to say though as an Aussie if you are trying to rile me up by insinuating I'm a fool, good luck most Aussies I know have pretty "tough hides" LOL, so you will be wasting your efforts but I do appreciate your comments for sure. Certainly CZcams land is full of BS in many channels on outdoor gear. I hope my channel is not one of them. That's why there are not hundreds of videos here as I actually use the product during real trips into the wilderness and not simply review stuff over my desk in the comfort of my office/loungeroom/bedroom etc etc. Only that way can I say whether it will really work.
Again, just so you know you are actually preaching to the converted, finally, my best hunting knife I've had since a teenager (German made PUMA HUNTERS FRIEND) and some of my most worked knives to date are carbon non stainless either 1095 or other. That being said if you are still around in 20 years time and I happen to be doing the same here come back and see what I think of these stainless alloys then.
bush nazis at it again
Thanks man, yep that's the way I see it.
Thanks man!