The Secrets Steven Seagal knew about making Aikido work but hid from everyone
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First off, to me he was Sensei. All you guys run your mouth like you know something... "Is that so?"
Those are you paying attention to this guy: 1) he hid it from everyone? Then he hid it in plain sight. Did you somehow think you deserved personalized instruction? When he demonstrated techniques, the first time or two we barely saw what he was doing because the speed he moves at, and and because a lot of it was about subtle shifts of weight, agreeing with movement, the direction and energy of the attack, and subtle redirections. The third time he would slow it down a little bit, and inform "Hai, dozo!" (Yes, there it is.) Then we would pair off with each other and he would guide individual angles, hand positions, etc., Gently correcting with "it's a little more like this," as he adjusted the angle of your hand, perhaps for the 50th time in an hour. On the tama, he was a caring dedicated teacher understood that his size and abilities could be intimidating, and made a point of softening that so you could focus on the lesson. Hiding? Sometimes I wish he did a bit more of that, but he was always outspoken. So he wasn't hiding anything, and you already knew that when you use that misleading headline to borrow from the value of his name and ride on his shirttails. So instead of telling us what you know about him, which is nothing more than the tabloids spew, how about you show us something you have to offer to other Aikidoka?
I may not agree with things he does in his personal life, but he will always be Sensei, a damn fine teacher at that. Anybody would stoop to that tactic to get some free press isn't worthy of speaking his name, but alone spouting out your version of what.he was doing and why, or telling an audience so they are going to feel and that they are going to lack in confidence upon a confrontation. That's another difference between you and he. He never tore us down or tried to make us fear, neither he nor Reynosa Sensei. In fact I never saw anything like that from anyone at any Tenshin Dojo location. Think about that well you're figuring out what you can offer that's original. I won't be here to see it. That stunt was enough reason to unsubscribe.
I have been involved in martial arts for decades and I'm wondering why people have to get on the internet and argue back and forth, "My style is better than your style..." Has anyone ever considered this: Nothing works all of the time and there are flaws in every style. Aikido may not work for one person, but may work for another who has the sense to make modifications as needed. It's not intended for certain situations. But neither is Brazilian Jujitsu. Who in their right mind wants to be on the ground in a real fight on the street? And Wing Chun has its shortcomings also just like Taekwondo, Karate, Muay Tae, boxing, capoeira, etc.
Thank you.
Coming to read these discussions always reminds me of the Chinese Martial Arts films, where the different schools always end up fighting over who's master has the better martial art. Just goes to show, people find it difficult to learn and to grow within themselves...which ironically, is exactly what Aikido is all about.
common-sense-self-defense,
That's what happens when you base everything on the Physical and never take into account aspects such as Tactics and Strategies, Principles and Awareness, for example.
Be Well
Fully agree. For me all martial arts have their benefits, something good to pass on and it also takes years/decades to properly grasp the art. And in combat, much has to do with the student and not the art, also has to do with the moment and all the preset conditions onto which the fighter was under. When comparisons come to place, one could have been sick, or injured, or unaware of the fight, or the opponent trained longer than him, or also had done what he did and many other arts thus affecting the outcome of the fight. All arts matter!!!
common-sense-self-defense you got it in one
There is a technique at the beginning of the movie "Above The Law," where he actually teaches a technique. The technique that he teaches is effective against kicks (as taught in the movie), punches and weapons. It is very effective and very useful.
That being said:
I know that a lot of people that Steven Seagal is just a good fight ACTOR and that is because most of the people watched his MOVIE "Above The Law" and took it as a story based on truth and a lot of videos that are made are done to cast doubt his life based on that. From that they try to cast doubt on his Martial Arts ability and they base the supposed outcome solely on the art of Aikido, however, as most long time Martial Arts practitioners can tell you, what you are initially taught in the core art when you began is totally different from what you have learned over the years from other Martial Arts and what you will teach in the future. His fighting style incorporates the techniques from many other Martial Arts styles as all styles should, to remain relevant and effective.
Steven seagal is also a black belt of karate too
The hands are just basic aikido parries, also exist in basic kung-fu and karate... The first ever Win Chun demonstration was 1969 and it's mostly a combination of kung-fu/tai chi sticky hands/push-hands and striking... most of the good aikido teachers teach their parries and blocks, not just Seagal. The low kicks are basic karate and kung-fu/tai chi kicks. Remember, O-Sensei said that 90% of aikido is atemi and that Daito-Ryu has the low kicks and the strikes, aikido has them too but a lot of teachers ignore them and teach fake aikido.
I think this is only video I ever heard mentioned breathing . Great point
The breath is everything
The life is calculated by the breath. If you close your eyes, observe(not control) your breath long enough, you will see the magic light from another purity worlds, it's Samatha in Meditation. It's the truth!
Yes great point however there are a lot of people think that you was trying to hide stomach but I know better
He didn’t hide it from anyone. He made four movies that demo’ed it for everyone to see.
I’d say above the law and out for justice did fairly well, with marked for death coming close and hard to kill far behind
@@connordunckel8544 Those are his most credible action flicks. Hard to Kill was my least favorite of the four, but had good fight choreography. After those Glimmer Man and Into the Sun probably had his best choreography. But, that last one was straight to DVD.
@@williamsmith8790 agreed, there’s some gems afterwards. Under siege 2, exit wounds, belly of the beast, and out for a kill come to mind. Hard to kill still has some solid fight scenes but definitely the weakest out of a strong 4 for me. Into the sun definitely has some interesting moments and glimmer man does I just wish the fights were edited a little better there
@@connordunckel8544 He’d started phoning them in after Under Siege time frame. The straight to DVDs any full body views were his stunt doubles. The close ups were right on his face with his hands moving “hubud’ishly” in front of it. I speculated he may have even been sitting on a bar stool when they shot it.
@@williamsmith8790 it’s weird because occasionally he’d give us what we wanted but yeah most of the time it’s a double. It sucks because there could’ve been a lot of great scenes if he wasn’t bouncing up and down with weight for the last 30 years. Would’ve loved him vs van damme or Jeff speakman
When I started training 45 yrs ago. You learned one system. Yet these days students will train multiple systems and have instructor that blend a few arts. Each having their own weakness and strengths. Having the ability to flow, to adapt to what is being presented was the essences of Bruce Lee, " be like water". The key parts of this is learn a system. Give yourself a foundation, whether its Judo, Karate, Jutsu, Wing Chung. Get good at that then add other components that work for you. Just keep training!
Except Bruce Lee was an actor,just like Tony Jaa?
@@phnompenhtrader9698 Neither of them could act. They were MAs who went into films.
NICE !😎
@@GonzoTehGreat I speak,read and write Thai and lived there for seven years.
I can tell you that the Nak Muay/Thai Boxers laugh about Tony Jaa he is considered a dancer in Thailand NOT a Martial Artist,555! :-D
Another interesting video from Aikido Flow !! Thank you for this ! Greetings from Athens Greece !
Yep mix between Aïkido and Wing Chun is great ! Love it !
Both not that effective
Your better off just learning judo tbh
Aikido , as someone who has done it for 10 years , is very useful because ukemi are great for mobility and the arm locks are viable in a real situation, but the complex techniques will never be usable if someone is rushing you
to avoid a fight, I always pretend having a heart attack and act like I'm dying. Always works.
As Mr. T quoted, it takes a smart man to play dumb.
to :WidALMayhem id like to see you fight against an aikido practitioner like myself youll get tosed around u piece of deliberant garbage
@@santanayanez3465 what did he say?
Mr denPes
Yeah, that works for me too😂👍
That sir, is the most highly skills ever i read in youtube comment ever.
This is awesome! Love watching! 😮
Love your channel. I just started my first aikido lesson.
Seagal did teach in Japan according to Black Belt magazine. They did an article on him, I think in the mid 80's. Another thing is that Hollywood is rich with talented martial artist that work with the actors on the fight scenes so pure Aikido may not be what you see. Especially the knife fight scenes and the refusal to show knife stuff is ( you pick the adj ). Knife defense or offensive takes a lot of training with partners and a skilled instructor. To think anyone would learn technique on video or print is silly.
Yeah and blackbelt magazine also believed Frank Dux b.s. which now everyone knows was complete bullshido.
It was at his father in law's gym or something.
If you know anything about marital arts, you know that as a senior student, it's normal to teach a few classes. It doesn't mean much.
He didn't own any dojo in Japan and he never met O Sensei.
Black belt magazine has also spent decades promoting chi masters and other complete frauds. Not exactly a great source.
His skills are eclectic. Combining the forms of many martial arts styles. By assuming certain forms of known martial arts stances, one can mislead an opponent to think they are up against a certain style limitation with certain effective counter moves. But when that counter move is committed, he can react, knowing what the strike will be and then position himself to prosecute the known position and resulting weakness. Key factor in any of this is honing your skills and practicing them endlessly.
Very good analysis of our beloved legend.
Seagal showed practical and vicious street fighting on his movies (at least on the first popular ones).
One more detail ofcourse is that he is also a karate expert (Shito Ryu I think).
+shooter4hire shooter4hire
Its Shito Ryu under Fumio Demura.He also holds black belts in Kendo and Judo.
Love him or hate him,he is a martial arts expert,made Aikido famous and left his mark as a superstar on action movies.
Vasileios judo? That's the only legit martial arts you named. The only thing Steven seagal had to do with judo was getting choked out by Gene Labelle until he crapped himself.
+Joshua Traffanstedt
Υou cant just deny proven facts and rather accept unproven ones like the so called submission he may had by Gene Labelle.
But even that really happened its fine and acceptable,we never said Seagal is invincible and unbeatable but a martial arts expert who can beat anyway most of the humanity even in his mid 60s.
This video is just brilliant! Thanks for breaking down some of his techniques. You are right that Segal Sensei incorporates various arts. His Aikido alone, though, is still so well-defined; his abbreviated style is so hard to duplicate without strongarming Uke. You can tell he practiced on some serious uchideshi badasses who could take a fall, and that helps!
You guys do a great job at keeping it real. Segal is one of the premier screen fighters who successfully blends different arts into his own style. Another screen fighter I admire is Adrian Paul, who is more of a purist at whatever art he happens to be using at the time (but that's the Highlander character). Not sure about his street cred, but his forms are fantastic. (I tend to think he can back it up with real power, I mean just look at the guy).
Keep up the great work, guys! Aikido forever!
Speaking of Adrian...
Remember the Tiger / Crane form he performed in an episode of Highlander ?
Or the fight scene when he and Ritchie want to gain membership at a dojo and he had to pass " the initiation " :
He had to fight the owner !!
Those scenes alone showed he was the real deal.
Adrian Paul is teaching his sword art to the public now.
His youtube page is
THE SWORD EXPERIENCE
@@VanishingNomad Wow gotta check that out right now! Thanks VanishingNomad!
Segal's Aikido is incomplete. I haven't seen him take a fall. I'm not sure if he knows how to fall or break a fall. His practice is mostly pre-arranged. A little thai boxer can easily destroy Segal, even without rules.
@@victorbondoc2311 Falling is the first thing you learn in Aikido. At the sensei level, you don't typically see much falling! Anyway nobody's buick-proof.
I had the good fortune many years ago to watch a couple of Seagal's early films with a 50yr old 8th Dan Judoka. Bill said his technique was excellent and he had obviously spent many years training. There was no fraud in his skill as an Aikidoka.
I think one to remember when being confronted, especially in my experience, is always let the attacker come to you.
By the way, in the movies, everything is choreographed.!!!
Great intruction"
Great instructor"
I like the way of holding the hands where your guard is almost up, but in a passive, non-threatening, non-aggressive way.
I love all his early films. Having been a lifelong ma and boxing practitioner and instructor, I must say that none of what you demonstrated is practical for self defense against even a low level boxer or wrestler. The practical skills of aikido are mainly in tumbling and learning to fall properly.
George Kondylis thank you.
Steven is a real martial artist. His style, to me, is not always the best for real-life situation. Even though he is not the best person from what I have heard but regardless he is a real martial artist.
thank you for these demos.
Congrats and thanks , you finally confirmed what i have guessed all along... sticky hands, weapons, etc
The inventor of the front kick, Steven Seagal
@@spidermoon3574 Ya think?
I told people Seagal used Wing Chun techniques in his movies 30 years ago and everyone claimed he was using Aikido only...someone is finally admitting it.
He used Kali in Under Seige and claimed he invented it.
i thought steve invented everything?
Thanks you for sharing , it was fun demonstrations...
Really enjoyed this instruction. Very helpful covering all grounds. Very responsible too. Thank you for considering what should be publically communicated and considering the dangers in giving certain informations. +E
That first bit about positioning the hands at the outset is actually good advice. I learned the same ready position from a non-aikido art a long time ago, and I think it is a good idea for all the reasons given here.
Good to know, thanks for sharing. I had the same thought, that Steven Seagal uses other martial arts mixed in with Aikido. Thanks for confirming my hypothesis. 😎
Stephen Seagal uses body guards and law suits, not "other martial arts mixed in with Aikido"
@@ManifoldSky you don't know shit about him then. Go back and worship your Gracie BJJ.
@@mr.ironbodybuilding I know quite a bit about him actually, including the fact that can't fight worth shit. His record of law suits is public record.
Also, Aikido is nonsense from a self-defense perspective, and Morihei Ueshiba never intended it to be used that way. So much was removed from actual Japanese jujutsu, that it was essentially useless.
But you just keep training all your overhead strike attack defenses, something you will NEVER see on the street.
The fight at the bar in Out for justice with sticks was done with Dan Inosanto and Steven actually trained with Dan and the guys from the Inosanto Academy ,along with late Brandon Lee . These guys knew each other very well 👍 Martial artists know each other ,especially in the States ,cause they are all connected and train with each other ,mixing styles and all that 👍 which is good . Nice video 👍💪👊☯️
I had my first Aikido on Saturday (in France) I still hesitate to start 😎
Thank you
I really enjoyed this video and like how you mentioned the scene with "Sticks" in Hard To Kill..."Sticks" is Guro Dan Inosanto ... my main teacher :). I also like how you mentioned Seagal's confidence as it was his confidence in the movies that inspired to me to begin training in the Martial Arts 25 years ago and it was been a wonderful (albeit never ending) journey.
It was Dan Inosanto that taught Bruce Lee the Nunchaku,for the iconic scene in Enter the Dragon,Dan Inosanto is an absolute legend!
Ha. Was gonna say he kinda glossed over one of the legends in that bit. What an amazing person. But the movie was 'Out for Justice'.
@@matthewchapman7810 Correct..my bad...not sure how I got that wrong LOL. Thanks
Also the stick fighter in Hard to Kill was Jeff Imada. Inosanto was in Out for Justice.
@@rnkmode1876 Correct... my bad... I got the titles mixec up. Thanks for clarifying
thank u for uploading
I remember a kickboxer who challenged an instructor in Budokan Aikido because as he was watching his moves he said Aikido practitioners does not know how to box and kick. The kickboxer challenged the aikido instructor in a kickboxing fight in the ring wherein they will use boxing gloves, the Aikido instructor grab the challenge; during the fight the kickboxer can not land a solid punch and kick because the aikidokas keeps on dancing and turning around while delivering short punches and kicks. At the end, the kickboxer turn up bloodied and lay flat on the canvass.
A very lame, made up story.
Don’t get me wrong, I know Aikido can be useful somehow but your story doesn’t sound real at all
I believe some of the techniques are taken from Kenpo as well
"Every good teacher only shows his students 90% of what he knows."
That is utter bullshit. A good teacher wants the best for the student and will give all of himself to his students.
With respect, I disagree a little but understand your fine point. In traditional teachings, often the teacher would hold back part of a technique and let the student - through dedication, practice and repetition, discover the technique's finer points for him(her) self. In this way, the student learns more and the technique is intuitive to reaction rather than planned or designed.
I was always taught that this was only for the Chinese Martial Arts,which didn't surprise me one little bit having lived in China!
@@phnompenhtrader9698 It's very Japanese (too) ;-) - Spoon-feeding knowledge is a western thing, eastern practice puts the owness on student discovery and effort - better results in my opinion but a lot harder on the student.
Why reinvent the wheel?
Sticks get him
I think i would like to try this looks really interesting i have some health issues but im sure this can be looked into.🥰🤩
Love the video guys. Thank you!
After years of studying Steven Seagal, I've come to the conclusion that the style he uses is called acting. Lol
Seagal is a real Bulshito artist . The real Martial arts Community are laughing out loud at him . #True ,
if you take the real aikijujutsu/aikido on you, your bone will be broken, limb or worse death. guarantee. i practice silat, that is why i respect aikidoka
keep studying
Marco More 😆😂🤣
Masbor, that is true with any martial art my friend.
There is a massive difference between a fight and an attack. Understand this and you'll understand Aikido's potential effectiveness. I say potential because it really does depend on the style of approach and the lineage and the teacher you have. Bear in mind that the Tokyo riot police are taught Yoshinkan Aikido, a very robust and tested system.
Mary Shaw You know I think Aikido is BS but when you put it that way you give me hope that it has potential. I have not seen any effective aikido not a sliver but maybe in some far away place they train property and effectively.
Most, the vast majority of Aikido to day is total bullshit. And that is largely down to lineage of school. Most are doing the Aikido of an old man (having descended from Ueshiba when he was old and had softened in his own personal approach) The pre-war schools (Aikido changed greatly during the war in order to be still practiced under American occupation and the banning of Martial arts) Yoshinkan and other pupils from pre war created a lineage that is effective. I think of it this way, A fight is when combatants square off and gauge each others responses and reactions, feints etc, An attack is more like battlefield stuff, no time to square of because you'll be hamstrung from behind etc, the attacks are determined and focused, if not sometimes wild. You only have to watch vids of riots and group violence to see the swinging attacks that some people say never happen. At it's best and done correctly Aiki is not about fighting, it is self-defence from and attack with the aggressor aiming their KI at you.
JimboParadox. What does your comment have to do with mine?
Yes, a very interesting interview. Yet is was with a man who trained with an old Ueshiba. Ueshiba was on his own life journey. Take a look at vids on post and pre war Aikido. Some of these lineages still exist, My ex boyfriend and I trained in one. The attacks had to be real, otherwise no Ki/energy to deal with.
This isn't a matter of old and young, but of goal, Aikido is a philosophical/educative derivative of Aikijujitsu just as Judo is a philosophical/educative derivative of Ju-Jitsu (witch, by the way, is also a derivative of Aikijujitsu), Ueshiba just did to Aikijujitsu what Kano did to Ju-Jitsu 40/50 years before him.
There's no such thing as "pre war Aikido", it was Aikijujitsu, Aikido is Ueshiba's own vision of Aikijujitsu, with a self-accomplishment component, it's not much about a "technique" ("Jitsu") but about a "way" ("Do"), while Aikijujitsu and Ju-Jitsu focus only on street/battlefield efficiency, Aikido and Judo focus on self-accomplishment, gaining self-confidence by practicing a martial art, and both Judo and Aikido also emphase on preserving your opponent, you're here to defend yourself, not to crush your opponent (hence the total control you have to have over your opponent's fall on both Judo and Aikido), that's why it's all about control, while Aikijujitsu and Ju-Jitsu's philosophy is more like "a dead man can't threaten you anymore", you apply the technique with full force and no control, the goal is to neutralize, no matter what (death being the ultimate neutralization).
Honestly, the best way to avoid that instantaneous panic response when a fight breaks out? Fight desensitisation. Move away from drill work alone. Take part in occasional full contact sparring. Tests these systems under less controlled, chaotic situations and regulations within a gym and with an instructor present to watch over proceedings. Then and only then can you truly test their metal as techniques so to speak and then and only then will you begin to re-condition that 'flight' response into a 'fight' response. As was best put by 'Iron' Mike, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face".
Finally someone else who understands what Steven Seagal was doing. When you go back and watch Bruce Lee he was using Aikido techniques. Thank you for your break down.
Beautiful! I studied under Grandmaster Ark Y. Wong in Los Angeles. All of what you said here is what I got from him. This is what I try to impart to any of the students that I had but it is kind of difficult to break their bad habits. One thing you're doing with all of your videos is showing that the fancy stuff doesn't really work on the street. Sifu Wong constantly reiterated this idea. Keep it simple and use your whole body. You're only limited by your mind. As Sifu Wong said over and over, "Kung Fu very smart" as he pointed to his head. You have to think of possibilities all the time. As the old axiom goes, "There's more than one way to skin a cat." (Sorry cat lovers.)
One thing your video got me with is not getting into any kind of defense position. Sifu Wong would stand there with his arms at his sides just ready. As soon as the opponent made a move the hands went up and defended. He was amazing at what he could do. I knew him throughout his 70s until he died in 1986.
More than one way to skin a cat refers refers to skinning catfish it has nothing to do with felines
OMG, you guys rock! Thank you for putting this out there.
Interesting.. Thank you for the insight.👍
Great stuff! Thank you
I love it
Remember, this art has its roots in selfdefense not sport fighting; that’s why you don’t see it in MMA fights. So its more selfdefense than anything. The Samuri had to do something if they lost their swords, that’s why you see Akido practitioners getting off-line...away from the sword. Seagal just modernized Akido to defending punches sticks and kicks. As far as a real fight, it depends on the practitioner how well they apply it.
I. Am a Taekwondo instructor, but personally used Akido for 21 years in Law Enforcement as a way of gaining and maintaining control of suspects. I also taught officers for 18yrs and these techniques are the best way to control someone you just need to augment them with striking and grappling techniques in case you need to go toe-to-toe. Just like in MMA, where manny Bjj Black Belts quickly discovered that they needed to be able to punch-strike- to be able to survive in the ring.Selfdefense is where he is coming from and NO SPORT, IS SELF-DEFENSE.
I wrote many time thal all things which Seagal show is not legit in mma.And the second part-mma is a sport with many rules,including referee in the cage.In real life there are no rules,referees an other things.
One thing that I see in some of the fight scenes with Seagal is that he will either "back-up" OR pretend to backup and then lunge forward... I think this makes the attacker quickly attempt to change the attack motion he has and messes up the timing...
Just look at some of the fight scenes in movies where he is facing an opponent and fakes the back step,,, you will see it.
Excellent. Very understandable. Thank you very much.
great video!
4:25 "basically you learn how to manipulate punches", do you have any idea how fast a serious punch is? a real non-cooperative aggressor is not gonna let you manipulate his arm after punching you, instead is gonna withdraw his fist immediatly after the first hit and attack again. How fast are you?
Exactly. This is the type of guy Joe Rogan talks about, so much bullshit with guys like this, and I don’t even think they realize it.
By memory the world record of number of regular punches per second is around 10.3/s from a wing chun fighter. So wing chun have nothing to proove about speed work. It's possible to reach that rate of speed because of the wing chun striking concept at mid distance. That distance the english boxing fighter don't like to stay. They prefer doing assault from longer distance and move back etc. In wing chun you train your eyes and your feet to counter these type of chain punches at full speed and keep the opponent at mid distance. A good punch speed in wing chun is around 8 punches/s and because of the blocking concept who is the same as the striking one, if you can do 8/s punches you can do 8/s sharp blocks. My kickboxing teacher, a world champ one in the 80's, learned me that the real and correct jab is the one you couldn't see and reach you at the perfect place, at the perfect distance. But as you can see, you can't repeat this perfect punch undefinitly. Don't underestimate human abilities and the wing chun, what I saw on the speed and precision field is not ordinary.
lulumire This is hilarious, so you think those whipping like “punches “ are effective? You guys are all in a big bubble.
@@taods1 Yes of course they are, I knocked out numerous pro guys with them, cutted breath with it, You can break 4cm wood plane . This vertical punch calls square punch in my country. I m a bit suprised you can find it in all boxing style here in the west. It's a bit like upercut : power from the ground to the toes, knee , hip, more elbow than shoulder and fist all from the same side. When your are not strong with no tall and muscle mass it's very useful cause the destructive power is multiply with the number of repeat. That is physics. And in my experience, it pass at 80% on ring boxers cause they are too much used to protect the blind side, so the door in the center is fully opened from the begining.
The wipping effect is from a failure to see what it is really happening or from a commun mistake by wing chun novice. In fact you have to follow a straight line direct to the target and the next punch is above the last one. It is percussiv on a vertical diamant, a narrow parallelogram not a round verticale cycle.
Anyway Harvard doesn't play games with making mesures on fake punches or FBI, US army, special forces of Belgium/France/Germany etc don't use wing chun without testing the wing chun punch. Sorry no bubble.
@@lulumire that was a very entertaining read, do you also write Hollywood screenplays?
Kung Fu and Aikido are awesome in conjunction with grappling skills and extremely effective
This was one of your Best Videos. I'm always curious to learn the Perspectives from various Martial Arts.
UnexpectedWonder thanks
OMnutritionist De nada. No problemo.
The second one seems to be The pushing hands from Tai-chi.
So, it's all WingChun!?>! lol
Thanks for the breakdown. Keep up the good work! :)
thank you...I think you are right because I did aikido too but see him using other non aikido technique and in his profile , aikido is mostly mentioned like no other ones.
Thanks for posting.
I agree. Akido and Wing Chung complement each other, and blend together almost as if one style indistinguishable. Of course, if you have a good teacher for both.
Just like any style. There will be good and bad teachers in all styles and in anything we learn. Much like when going to an accidemic school we have had good and bad teachers.
Both styles with good teachers, I had found complement others styles as well. Even including boxing, judo, and wrestling styles.
I will say that so many martial arts have many aspects of other martial arts. Thia becomes more true the longer, more experienced, more aspects you learn in your style. Thw higher you get in your style, the more you will see and understand other styles. That is due to having knowlege of the same move and/or very simular moves from what you have ready learned.
I swear this with Karate and Kung Fu as well. The more advance a Karate guy becomes the more he will incorporate soft and fluent movement. Same with Kung Fu. At a level, the more they have learned , the more hard movements they will use. Both styles will do move fluent moves that have the hard impact. This I have found it most styles. The move advanced the person becomes, the more the same to styles become.
'It is difficult for a student to pick a good teacher, but it is more difficult for a teacher to pick a good student' ~ Grandmaster Ip Man
@@deesmods6696 - That is so very true. That is why I have seen many teachers who either stopped teaching, or just watered their art way down so no one can get hurt with an art designed to hurt people. How crazy is that, and what does it say about the large population of bad students.
Steven Seagal is amazing and he rarely kick and I would like to learn that, or course it'll takes me years to be like him :-)
Thanks for this!
I feel like the best way to describe Aikido is as a martial art used when you want to AVOID a real fight, and deescalate. While not as useful in a life threatening situation, it is useful in avoiding getting in those situations. It’s like an old quote I’ve heard, “a brave man can get out of a bad situation, but the wise man never finds himself in one”
Walk in a aikido dojo and ask the sensei to grab u in a simple wrist lock I guarantee youll change your perception on aikido, the only reason it's crap for some people is either the sensei is shite or your not putting enough effort into it, Aikido is not for the faint hearted who want to turn into Bruce Lee over night it takes many years of training and conditioning of body and mind
abigail fear good luck getting an aggressive already attacking human being into one of those locks bubba.
@@bustedugly321 that's why people mix martial arts and believe me everyones got the same pressure points no matter how big or tough they are
Your portrayal of Seagal's punch deflections was completely wrong. The one-armed deflection against two punches is a combination of uke nagashi and tsuri age, standard techniques from Tenshin Aikido style.
STFU, you haven't a clue what you're talking about. You just watch that Rogue Warrior dipshit and think you're well informed.
That "Rogue Warrior dipshit", as you call him, is showing exactly the same techniques as all other students of Seagal, because those are genuine Tenshin techniques. I've practiced some of them and they're definitely an improvement over classic Aikido. But I've only done Aikido for 15 years, what would I know. SMH
gee, we all need to watch you in the next championship. the guy in the video is a white belt, a clear belt and the black dude his slave
Which would not work against a seasoned boxer.
@@spockvskhan4561 a saesoned boxer?? Are you serious!? Boxing is useless against any form of martial arts. A boxer would be dead before one puch could be thrown. Get real man.
And when I say dead I mean no longer living. That is, if the attacker wanted to take the boxers life.
He also applies these throat strokes wich are verry effective
dreammaker33 true
wing chun
some people throats are down there
It's hard to hit someone in the throat, damned near impossible. You just punch them in the face.
Anyone with half a brain can punch a throat lol
You guys are AWESOME!!!
That was fabulous guys!
I learned a lot and the most important is breathing and be calm.
God bless you guys, keep up the good work
remember God is watching as well as us!
Peace out.
And god cares who we make love to, the wrong person gets you a trip straight to hell. Unless you apologize like the rapists child molesters and the like.
If a good teacher holds back 10 percent...he makes the art worsr. A good teacher strives for his students to be brtter. Thus improving the art.
"How to beat a guy who can't punch properly in slow motion" thank you for this technique Master.
All these moves look like Charlie Brown running to kick the football while Lucy pulls it out of the way.
Exactly, I love how he is uncovering secrets from a guy acting in a movie. Try that shit with someone who knows how to fight
How to beat a guy who stops mid air, and who's physics engine stops at contact.
taods1
Guess what though? The vast majority of the population has no idea how to fight
@@artofwarboxing6047 same goes for vast majority of traditional martial artists.
Most people who insult a martial artist are the ones who failed at it so they got to insult it to make themselves feel better
Awesome you guys from aikido flow keep up gd wrk
Bull Shit pls don't try this crap
@@hthtrhsaggh you are Another keyboard warrior, probably too fat to leave the couch.
Hi, thanks for your excellent input on Aikido ... always interesting and thought-provoking.
Steven Seagal ... I never saw him live (friends were impressed at a seminar) but I still watch the movies.
Keep up the good work
Alot of of guys who do Aikido have done years of karate before hand. My Shotokan teacher who was a 6th degree blackbelt and a third degree blackbelt in Aikido. His Aikido worked he told me that Aikido is ineffective without the strikes and is designed to complement the striking arts. Basically these guys are recreating Akijitsu the father of Aikido.
Hapkido also comes from Aiki-Jujutsu. Hapkido looks like a mix between Taekwondo (which has its roots in Taekkyeon) and Aikido.
The Blakester Experience at the end of the day it boils down to the practitioner. When mixed martial arts first came out everyone was on the bandwagon disrespecting traditional martial arts that have been battle tested in wars , on the street by the military , and law inforcement . Mixed martial arts aren't new basically it is also old just that what we see in the UFC is incomplete also. They do not fight with weapons or fight multiple attackers. Each style i believe was created as a shortcut way of learning how to fight. All mixed martial arts have traditional styles incorporated into it. So for people to put down the traditional arts is hypocritical. Aikido , it's ancestors , and offshoots take a long time to master. In the US we want quick gratification , so we put down styles we do not understand. When a person gets older they tend to soften their techniques and become more fluid and efficient in their attacks and defense. The reason being eventually strength will diminish leaving just technique. Techniques taught are not for everyone, body size, personalities,and strength contrary to popular belief all play a factor in the beginning stages. Another more important thing is understanding the true purpose of a technique. I would rather have 5 solid techniques , than 100 half assed ones.
who301tent415, excellent points! You are absolutely right. Aikido is not for training soldiers who need to fight in the next 2-3 years. You see arts like Krav Maga use Aikido principles with much less efficiency and a lot more brute strength, and it makes the practitioner feel tough. So does drilling punches and kicks with loud kiais your first day of school. But give me efficiency any day! (It also helps to throw in a little boxing, karate and BJJ, I'll admit--gives you a sense of the different kinds of threats out there).
Shhhh, don't wake the others from their naps.
Actually, I taught many Aikido techniques while I was in the Military. They're very effective for many tasks, either in self defence, or in offensive tasks, such as quickly and quietly taking out a sentry or in crowd/riot control and extracting individuals from a crowd. All styles have their uses for different situations. Martial Arts, like life, demand an open mind.
I liked it very much I hope you can show us more stuff
excellent presentation thank you very much see you anytime
What segal is doing are on screen takes.
um steven stegal has borrowed way more from the arnis/kali/escrima system than just stick fighting.he has borrowed ALOT from the filipino boxing system.that knife scene comes from from arnis as well.the special forces were trained in kali/escrima/arnis.
You have to remember that in movies the fight scenes are choreographed and done in exaggerated movements for the camera.
Good research much appreciated of a great martial artist
wonderful
He kept his secrets by eating them
Agree. Judging by looks he has a lot of secrets. Hidden in plain sight😆
A bit crude but very funny!!!
He ate allot of secrets then... lol
Thank you. Yes, SS incorportates different martial arts including Win Chung, Hapkido, even Karate and traditional Shaolin Kung Fu.
What are some good attributes of Hapkido? Feel free to email me liabatud at gmail. I am very interested in this particular art.
Nice vid as usual, mate. Thanks. Segal learned Filipno martial arts concepts in the 1970's when he moved out to L. A. probably with Inosanto himself. I've heard this story for years as on the West Coast, USA. It makes sense to me. The hand deflection you demonstrated is called HUBAD in FMA.
it's good for everybody to know and how Steven Seagal really does in his films.i believed what i judt Watch.Considering they or you are also Aikido practitioner.Thanks to you guys for the lesson.more piwer to your Dojo.
Everyone keeps harping on Segals Akido. They fail to realize the he also has black belts in aikido, karate, judo and kendo. If you watch closely and dont get tunnel vision on Akido, youll see he incorperates several different martial arts in his moves. Akido is designed to protect yourself while doing no harm to your attacker. And remember, he was a black belt in karate before he started learning Akido. If anyone really thinks its all acting and he cant defend himself, why isnt anyone trying to punk him in public? I mean they have Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler when he was middle weight champ and countless others? All the doubters and haters next time you see him, ask him for a friendly demonstation on your body? Or a not so friendly? My bet is that he slaps/kicks all doubts right out of your body so fast that the first thing you remember when you come to is that last stupid thought you had about being a badass and him just being an "actor" and not knowing martial arts. And make this note to yourself "stupid is as stupid does" if your able to hold a pen to write it. And take a reality check, anyone can say hes a fake but i saw his ex wife in an interview and she said yes he can do everything to someone that he does on the screen and as she put it "a whole lot worse". Im guessing she knows him better than any of us will ever know
If he has a black belt in Judo, it's total bullshit.
Without a competition record, it's nothing.
Judo is the only legit martial art in that list and it's probably the least usable of the "legit" martial arts.
@@charlesmartel988 Least usable? What do you mean by that? Judo is very practical.
My son's aikido instructor is a former Royal Marine Commando; I don't imagine he chose aikido if it was useless. Also, the Japanese riot squad are all taught aikido so I don't agree with all this drivel about one martial art being the best. If it's a grappling art you're good at, somebody standing back and kicking your kneecaps isn't going to end well for you. Conversely, if you're up close and personal, boxing isn't necessarily going to help you. One of the major tenets of martial arts is RESPECT. It would be nice to see more of that instead of all this animosity to practitioners of arts other than one's own.
No. I am sick of debunking this junk. Just because a member of the military trains it, doesnt mean it works. Maybe the instructor learned for the art and culture aspect, not for techniques. Also, the riot police do not train Aikido. Selected members do a course in Yoshikan, but that is more for the warrior spririt which is prevailent on the course, not for learning techniques. THey are holding batons and riot shields, how can they do Aikido techniques?
If you're good at grappling and someone is kicking your legs you will take them down. "Up close and personal" as you put it being no good for a boxer is also wrong. Many strikers love to be "in the pocket". Don't write just to be writing, think it through. Logically.
That's well founded, lots of things in most martial arts are too dangerous to use like spinal cranks in jujitsu. People who have understanding let them give ear. For over 6000 years there have been martial arts some well outlined in historic texts. The reason they lasted longer then a day is the fact that the teachings taught of the original tree of life. Unless you understood that your practice was incomplete that is why so many people search for the hidden meaning in martial arts because they feel there is something more to it then is apparent which there is but it is shrouded in mystery to the world because your not going to find it in a dojo. That being said everyone that does martial arts it means something different to them. And most are on a quest for the ultimate technical support of there style existence of being. People who figure out some part of the master sequence no longer feel a nessesaty to prove themselves because it can only end very badly and potentially currupt them which in turn currupts there practice. Seakers of fame and fortune have currupted the arts of the mighty men in exchange for lives of leasure and fame. Steadfast men have no need of such things as God will provide what man fails too. Just a FYI.
Aikido just does not work if the opponent is not cooperating. Be a man and deal with it or keep lying to yourself
"up close and personal" aka punching range 😂 I'm pretty sure that's exactly where a boxer would want to be
Im a person who loves combat but gate people's veiw on effectiveness because it doesn't work for them because they haven't had the right setting to actually test this your on point man and keep going
So good & helpful.
It's sad how polarised the discussion has become, instead of being critical and using one's brain. for people who know real martial arts, it is obvious that Steven Seagal has something valuable to offer. The tai sabaki (movement) he does is very good and together with a fighting attitude that's the majority of what you need in aikido (or better aikijujutsu). Yes, he has a big ego, but I prefer to focus on what he has to offer. A lesson you can take home is that in a real fight with multiple opponents don't even think about going to the ground or resisting going to the ground. You have to MOVE and in this aikido gives a good foundation. Then of course you have to add back the strikes (which in some styles like Aikikai are just demonstrative) and the weapons
Well said and true.
About time you recall that what he is doing is not all aikido but combined marshal arts that is effective for that moment.
Jimmy Butler 👍🏻
Marshal Arts? 0..0
mixed martial arts???
Marshal Arts. Not to be confused with Sheriff arts.
Both O'sensei and Shioda sensei said that Aikido is 70% atemi. Atemi (striking the vitals points) is essential to make your Aikido work in the street! My favourite atemiwaza are Judo chops to the carotid artery or the chopping the point behind the ear (the vagus nerve). It is the easiest and quickest way to knock out even a large strong attacker!
I have been training in a style of ju jutsu for years which has a mix of kung fu and Japanese ju jutsu, our style is very similar to Steven Segals style I love it!
Tell me more, sounds great
Steven had his hands like that because he was resting them on his belly.
If you honestly believe in a real situation Segal would have his hands like that your foolish and are going to get someone hurt following you.
Great analysis.
Several comments:
1. I was fortunate enough to be instructed in 'Aikijujitsu' (and initially knowing nothing - I had no clue Aikido was a bit different - esp because the terminolgy seemed almost identical. I dk what distinction u make).
2. The training intensity in the dojo increased to 90% within 30 min. It was an old fashioned way of learning that hurt. Blood and puke were common. I served as an uke for our small group of 8-10 students (all w BB in diff MAs) for a year before my Japanese instructors: Sensei Casey Okamura and Master Uri Kudo (in Holyoke Mass) began providing me with direct instruction. So, I adjusted to 'real life' hand speed, how to escape locks, block strikes n kicks, to ukemi and how to breakfall and recover -FIRST. In addition, I trained for 6 years straight (4 days a week for 3 hours each session). Huge help.
3. Ki! It is worth more than technique in a real fight. And as u noted...so is confidence w/out cockiness.
That noted...I dont think Ive ever heard Sensai Seagal say he practices Aikijujitsu...but it seems he does. Its def not all Aikido.
When I worked as a bouncer...my analysis was....if you're currently actively studying and dont flinch when a punch is coming in (my gauge of determing what shape I was in) there are some very effective techniques I used...most effective = inside block to right swing w follow thru of my rt arm to opponents neck - or rt arm punch to neck. But no question...street fighting is different. Quick hands, strong Ki, and a willingness to get 'messy' are needed on the street.
TY for the vid...guy did nice job.
GREAT BRO !!! THANKS
Excellent!
agree with some stuff ,your saying but not all. Best defence against knife, is practice running very fast.
nohn clift , true. If you are not a true expert, best to freaking run like hell. ...and scream 911!
doesn't mean i don't practice, just best not to face a knife, look at all the pointless deaths that have occured this year in and around the uk.
I don't know of any "expert" who will willingly stay and fight a blade. Too many variables, too easy to get hurt.
If you're cornered and have to fight, then that's what the training is all about. But if you don't have to....
Greg B ~ Right! Even if you are an expert they still advocate, given the choice run.
Ok remember what Bruce Lee said about Jeet Kendo "I am all styles " ... And be water my friend
Not, Jeet Kendo!
(Bruce) Lee Can do!
one of the BEST martial arts videos I have seen in years. Ignore the ignorant cunts putting you down and just talking about mma all the time they have no clue as to how real these skills are - it's real and only the people who know will nkow that
Works great for movies and with very cooperative partners.