The Best Pot Size for Growing Tomatoes??? (Big or Small)
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2021
- What is the best size pot to use when potting up tomato seedlings? I grew four tomato plants in four different size pots to see which one grew the best. Different pot sizes have pros and cons. Which one is best for tomatoes when going from a cell tray to a larger pot? Watch and see. Get 6-cell Trays: paperpot.co/product/epic-6-ce...
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Growing up 60 years ago, my dad had a green house and we had a garden about 5 acres for family to come and pick. Dad found out if you grew the tomatoe plants in the green house untill they were about 10 inches tall, that we would lose a lots of them trying to keep them watered when it was dry. We went to about 4 inch tall plants and had a better return and growth rate because the plant for some reason would just jump once being transplanted in the field.Dad decided the shock that the larger plant took, took longer for them to overcome.
I was literally just wondering how big a tomato plant should be before it goes outside. Thank you for sharing your dad's wisdom!
Last year I started tomato seeds in a hydroponic germination system I developed. At 3 inches tall I moved them into 3 to 4 inch pots to harden off for a week before planting directly in the ground. They grew rapidly and produced abundantly in compost rich raised beds.
Your experimental approach to gardening is very helpful.
This potting up experiment was very interesting.
But I found your recommendations to be even more helpful.
However, I was disappointed that you did not take the experiment all the way to harvest.
Last year I started more tomato seedlings than I needed.
After giving away most of the excess, I still had 6 puny Roma seedlings that I was too embarrassed to give to friends.
Instead of trashing them, I stuck them in a new spot with lousy soil.
I was amazed at how much they produced.
Diego, how about an experiment on how seedling size affects productivity?
I am coming to the same conclusion on transplanting large VS small tomato plants. My 4" tomato plants not only caught up with, but some of them out performed the transplants that were up to 32" tall. I am going to switch up my potting mix this year. The last two years I purchased potting mixes, peat moss, coco choir added blood and bone meal, everything has done well. Then you plant them in your soil and it takes a while for the soil biology to get started on the root systems. This year I am not spending a dime on anything. I produced over 50 gallons of finished leaf mold and my worms have given me about 15 gallons of very high quality worm castings. these will be the main ingredients in my potting soil, then when my plants go out into the garden they will find similar and more soil biology to welcome them. At least that's the plan.
I look forward to each of your videos. Always informative, right to the point, no fluff. Here in Texas, zone 8A.
Thank you for this brilliant video. I'm sharing with my small gardening group and Dad. I've just killed approx 6 tomato seedlings because they were too leggy so I repotted. Only one survived. I'm trying your method now. I thought about potting in bigger pots so thank you so much for making this wonderful video. Greatly appreciated. ☘️🦋🐝☘️
I subscribed. I appreciate how clearly you explain things.
Would like to know what type of pot you recommend for someone who will be growing on a deck rather than in a garden!
After watching your video, I am thinking about using soda bottles. Using a one liter or 2 liter soda bottle would give good long roots while not taking up a huge amount of space under my grow lights. I would get the benefits of a large pot and not take up a huge amount of space. I will probably go straight from the small 6 packs right up to 2 liter bottles. My main problem is that I very rarely ever drink soda. I guess I need to start asking around to get get some bottles within a few months.
Interesting experimentation, you do good work. Thanks!
Fantastic info. Just what I needed to know.
Very informative and practical. On our small patio I'm going to use a smaller pot for my grape tomato plants. Thanks!!!
Great video, really appreciate your observations and perspective!! To my eye the biggest pot definitely looks the healthiest in color and shape. I'd worry about the long term health of the smaller 1's due root disturbance when transplanted. Just my observation and obviously depends on your situation. Climate is a big consideration in Canada. Definitely will play around with it this year!!
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Interesting ! Especially the part about not potting up at all. I would still pot them up because colder climate so I'd rather have them grow for longer inside to get a headstart on the season. I'm also wondering what the results would be if you let them go for longer (maybe to grow tomatoes in containers, not going in the ground at all)
Thanks Diego! I like the idea of the 5 inch (or so) pot. The resulting plant is spindly, but so what? I'm going to either bury it deep or sideways in a trench anyway so that I'll get more root growth. I also like the 30 days direct to ground model, but I probably won't do that unless I have a cold frame or low hoop tunnel, just in case.
Thanks for the video, but what if i want to keep my tomatoes in the pot?? I have 2 kinds of tomatoes, Cherry and Beef...
Thank you for the video information ☺️
I’m outside planting tomatoes in a bigger container. So glad I came across your video.
@ 11:33. "I am really into these types of things". I can relate. :) Thanks for sharing. My question is, if I were growing in containers rather than the ground, what size container would give a tomato plant optimal conditions throughout the growing season.
Kool vid. I usually seed in solo cups then go to 1 or 2 gal pots. I skip the cells all together. The cells with plugs are better though. I find them to be a hassle with filling with soil, seeding, and removing plants. Then I transplant into the ground or into 30 to 100 gal pots. 20 was the smallest pot that seem to give me good results with tomatoes. All are fabric pots. Plastic stretch wrap like the stuff from U-Haul can be used to help prevent the pots from drying out. Place wrap at the bottom. Bands can be wrapped around the pot in addition to the bottom. Coco coir can be used to help your potting mix go further and help with water retention etc. I have found that transplant difficulties can be reduced with transplanting at the right time to ensure sufficient root mass exists and using a good heavy shovel for the huge hole. In addition, I have noticed that soil type and moisture can increase or decrease transplant difficulties. I have found that larger medium sized are easiest to transplant. Have you used the trans planter pot from Smart Pot? They make removing the root ball simple; however, they cost more than solo cups or 1-2 gal nursery pots. I'm excited for more testing videos.
Good stuff, thanks!
Good stuff as always. Home gardener who uses soil blocks then 4” pot to harden off then stick em in the ground with caterpillar tunnel standing by.
My tomatoes are in a pot very similar to the orange pot you use. They seem to have hit a growth stunt, the tomatoes have bloomed but are taking a long time to grow larger and ripen. I'm watering 2-4 times a day and it's been a very hot and sunny summer. I'm wondering if I need to pot up or if they've received too much sun.
This year I did not pot up. A freak cold night killed all but one tomato. Then replacement seedlings got almost decimated by slugs and snails due to their small size.
So while it is more work to pot up it gives you more control and flexility over the plants and when and how to plant them on their final destination.
Holy shit I’d be so sad wtf lol
Interesting. I am like you, I think transplanting straight to the ground and not potting up is best. Can't wait to see that comparison. Thanks, D I E G O.
I pot up 30 days + - into my garden. I just put a cage around them and wrap the cage with plastic shrink wrap for a greenhouse kind of thing. I wait a bit longer to be certain of interesting weather and it all works. I am in south eastern Wisconsin so frost dates are important.
Thank you for your video. Question: Can you get tomatoes for just using one gallon pot?
Suuuuuuuuuch a good video. Thank you so much!
I find the 5L common sized bucket works best for me. The Tomato plants can get really big and give me loads of tomatoes. I've tried smaller pots but it just wasn't worth the trouble.
Thank you so much
I will try with tomatoes and peppers and beans🌱
Can you not put two or three plants in a larger pot?
Using flats/trays in the John Jeavons method ("How to grow more vegetables") produces a stronger seedling with less inputs in my opinion. Seed at 1 inch spacings, prick out to two inch spacings in a deeper, tray from free pallets. Best dollar value. The challenge is always the hardening off / planting out. I still think best results are to stay smaller in diameter and deeper. Old one quart milk containers were perfect back in the day when we used paper packaging. So I like the person's idea of the soda bottles, even if they are cut down. Not as pretty on a video, but what are we trying to achieve. Sometimes the old ideas (how to grow more with less) trump preferences for convenience (the busy people mandate). Look at all the cylindrical vessels that are thrown away and 'upcycle'?
It’s a good point. I am a big fan of JJ. I just can’t get behind the whole pricking out thing. It takes so much time.
That being said if you have the time and enjoy it. 👍
I love the experiments - in fact thats why I subscribed - I want to know whats best from experimentation; not from - this is what I do
I am thinkimg chicken wire pit lined with forest leaves, half filled forest soil.
Roots dont wind around thsuffocating plastic sides bcuz sides dry more ideally.
Same reason cloth pots offer advamtages? Thats th hope...
I live in Quebec Canada zone 5
few years ago, I let some tomatoes 🍅 on the ground in the homemade greenhouse no heat and in the outdoor garden
I start tomatoes seed in my house
When the SOIL temperature reach 10 Celsius the seed germ
the tomatoes seed growing outside it grow more rapidly and it was more resistant
At autumn I put some different fresh tomatoes only on the soil with a sign for free tomatoes 🍅 plant next year
I do the same with different lettuce
Free vegetables year after year
Less job
PS: this year I buy tomatoes seed of small tomatoes plant 24 inches
I will have more tomatoes for my urban garden and more quickly than a big plant
First Expérience
We are forced to pot up because we would otherwise only have a season of 5 months for tomatoes outside.
One adventage is that you can bury the stem to make sure the roots can find more water and nutrients.
my dad says it’s not good to keep your plants in a pot, tomato doesn’t like small places is that true?
I like bit pots and I can't not lie 🎵
(1) Best way to stake tomatoes (long wire fencing panel? classic tomato wire cages for each individual plant? wooden stake? or just let the plant lie on the ground?) (2) best way to water tomatoes (simple water hose? 25' soaker hose? irrigation drip rows?). I've yet to find the perfect way of staking/holding up my tomatoes for optimal production. Seems the classic round wire tomato cages are too weak and will fall over. (3) how tall should your tomato plant become? (4) how wide should the tomato plant be? IN SUMMARY FOR OPTIMAL tomatoes production how to hold up plant, how to water, best height, best width?
Can I put a tomato plant into a large container and never put it in the ground and still get good fruit?
I like using ollas for my tomatoes.
yeah but what is the required (optimal) pot size if i want to fruit them in the pot?
i rarely plant tomatoes outside
Not sure. Not my area of expertise. I would guess it has to be 10 gallons or larger though.
I think it depends on the tomato type but I've gotten a ton of cherries and pear tomatoes from pots that were under 5gal. My larger tomatoes did not do as well. Next season I'm upgrading. You can definitely get a good yield from potted tomatoes if you pick the right cultivars. Though my pots did go outside permanently when the weather was right.
Excllnt video
This is a great experiment! I did the same experiment and came to the same conclusion. I feel validated 👍🏻
I progressively increase my pot size when transplanting. If I put in in a giant pot from a seedling such as a 5 gallon, it doesn't grow well
The fact that potting up didn't lead to better growth could mean, as you say, that potting up isn't necessary. It could also mean that potting isnt necessary. The limiting factor could be the pot itself. Many plants determine reproductive efforts at or soon after germination.
5 gallon pot means digging a 6-7 gallon hole, which means more soil disturbance, and I wouldn't be surprised if the smaller transplants did better over time.
Large enough for long enough to build strength to thrive in the ground. Convenient to take care of and transplant.
Square pots that are deeper are better especially with tomatoes in my opinion. ~2x as tall as wide. Square pots can save space
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I start in 1020's, then they go in red solo cups with slits in the bottom, buried up to their first nodes
Have you used the Johnson su extract
No.
@@DiegoFooter do you think you will make a extract
That's one side of the equation: foliage. What about yield please?
I love the video, but please give the tomatoes a trellis 😁🙃
I was about to put it into a 5 gal lmao
Too too lazy for all that transfer of seedings. Direct sow and thin. Essentially end up with more plants. Storage of pots blah, blah, blah. Thanks Diego.
Talks to much
Vry importnt?
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