Top of Flop? The Beatles 1963
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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Het tv programma Top of Flop, 1963.
The Beatles zingen 'I wanna hold your hand'
Released in:
•29 November 1963 (UK)
•26 December 1963 (US)
The Beatles werden in mainstream Nederland niet echt gewaardeerd.
"Dan liever de bietenbouwers".
I was only 10 at the time, but when I first heard I Want to Hold Your Hand in December of 1963, I instantly knew I had just heard something wonderfully different and special. A very, very different reaction than what this video portrays.
I love the Beatles. But my Dad, who was born in 1951, when he first heard I Want to Hold Your Hand, he thought it was just "stupid". He couldn't get past the lyrics, which, even at his age at the time, he thought were simplistic and childish. He didn't warm up to the Beatles until Rubber Soul (his favorite Beatles album). He did, however, love the Rolling Stones. To each his own. I loved the Kinks, my Dad didn't care for them. I didn't care that much for The Who, but my Dad loved them.
Listening to this for the first time at age 6 was like a bomb going off in my head. I never looked at the world the same way again. The Beatles saved me from listening to Bobby Vinton and Connie Francis.
I was 14 and liked music, such as it was. Then one day I heard that driving, high-energy series of chord changes that introduced "I Want to Hold Your Hand", and music was changed forever. My mind was blown.
@@duckman531 Hey, I loved Bobby Vinton and Connie Francis and love them still! I also loved the Beatles as soon as I heard them back then :)
@@thehighllama8101 The sound was a certain concoction that was startlingly different.
In the 2nd middle eight the dual harmony “and when I touch you I feel happy…” culminating in the “I can’t hide” crescendo is fabulous.
And the song is still heard and enjoyed by millions across the planet while they faded quickly to obscurity….
In June 63, She Loves You was the low rated record of the day on American Bandstand. Six months later it was in the American top 10.
The 1st part:
"And the song is still heard and enjoyed by millions across the planet"
and the 2nd part:
"while they faded quickly to obscurity…."
contradict each other (if the 1st part is true then the 2nd part is false; if the 2nd part is true then the 1st part is false). Thus the whole sentence is false.
@@phengkimving with respect, I believe the OP meant the panel on the TV show faded to obscurity
@@michaelmcknight3639, thanks buddy, you may be right.
@@phengkimving are you this stupid or did you fail English comprehension? Clearly the first comment is for the Beatles while the second is for the commentators. Try using your brain next time.
Those incredibly intellectual critics missed the boat. Most of the audience figured it out.
Nah. I'm not sure about the other 2 but one of them (Henk Elsink) was a standup commedian; not a real critic. He was actually pretty funny back in the day. I wouldn't take it very seriously at all.
@@willzimjohn That also factors into it for sure. And quite honestly I dont even like beatles of this era. Their absolutely great stuff came later
Unbelievable..but history proves who really won the day
If they were hearing this song for the first time, then it's understandable that it didn't click. It was more abrasive than the mellow sounds on the radio at the time.
Sorry, but... balderdash :)
They only "flop" was this show!
I first heard this when I was 7 - when it came on the radio my twin brother and myself would grab a couple of tennis rackets and start to sing and strum along oh very enthusiastically I might add we were happy kids but this song made us happy as well
Everything about them and their music was absolutely genuine.
I was just 12 when I first heard The Beatles and this song in 1963 in Pittsburgh PA. I bought the 45rpm the day it was on sale & put it both sides on repeat for hours on end much to the dismay of my parents. They never understood it. A Great Aunt bet me $5 that I would forget about them in 5 years. Almost 60 years later she lost that bet over and over again! My Grandmother would save newspaper articles of them & tell me if they were on tv via TV Guide. Blessed to be born in the best music era ever!
Great comment. I feel the same. My favorite 5 years of music is 1965-1969. What a time.
Loved your story. Thanks for sharing.
Yep best music era ever. I live near London and visited all the London clubs > 1962 - indeed I worked in Mayfair 2streets from Green Street in Mayfair where they lived - constantly blocked with people trying to glimpse them. I was lucky enough to be walking in the Westend near the street when they recorded Get Back on the roof and blocked all west London traffic. The police just gave up and joined in with the crowds. UK The place to be in tbe 60’s with sooo many fantastic bands. My office was bottom of Carnaby Street so you can imagine……
@@mikeriley4259 Very cool !
Sounds like your " great" Grandmother. What a wonderful woman she must have been.
The song was so popular in Germany that The Beatles made a version in German, "Komm gib mir deine hand."
Also very popular in Holland where this programme was made.
It reached number one in their charts.
It's amazing that squares like this were employed to comment on pop music.
That was. On a collection called Something New
German version featured in the excellent (beautiful, tragic, hilarious, brilliant) film Jojo Rabbit
The Beatles I want to hold your hand classic song from the sixties good song fifty years old still sounds good now
Ik heb dit al vele malen gezien, deze historische blunder !
😂
The Beatles went on to make music history in the most spectacular way than any group did in that era....
Really?!
@@robertsettle2590 Yes Sir....
This must be my day to learn new stuff.
First your info about The Beatles, and then I heard about this guy named Jesus.
@@paulcooper8818 He's your Lord and savior...
Dick Clark showed a picture of The Beatles to his studio audience in 1963 and the whole place erupted in laughter at the way they looked.
Wow, that's an interesting. Was this BEFORE their Ed Sullivan appearance? Would be great if there was video of that.
@@penfro it was about a year before the Ed Sullivan appearance. No video unfortunately just people's accounts.
It is virtually impossible for those who are "Generation:BOOMER", to not join in and sing " I Wanna Hold Your Hand" while it is being played in close proximity/earshot of its broadcast.
It was all so innocent and coy--Today, I wanna hold more than yer hand.
I remember my dad saying back in 63 that he thought the Beatles were good, and my immediate reaction was, no dad your not supposed to like them 😂
Your dad was wise and, evidently, open minded 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
All three generations of my family loved the Beatles - this was before popular music broke up into dozens of little sub-cultures...
The same reaction that they got from some of their early auditions. the rest is history
It went on to become a massive world wide hit! It opened up America for the The Beatles and all the bands that followed. It was pure magic, so I’m not sure what was going on in this country? Perhaps stuck in the ‘50s?
No, the 30's as in 1939 to 1945.( ok, the 40's too, but you get the picture.
This just goes to show that it's just as well the greatest, most influential band in history, the "band who changed the world", came from Liverpool, & weren't CHEESE HEADS.
Wisconsin?
Perhaps cheese heads,but can afford to go to watch football with a valid ticket
@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 I'm from GLASGOW, not Liverpool. And most of the ticket 🎟 problems were caused by FAKE
Geweldig! Inderdaad, die vier knapen hebben er niks van terecht gebracht.
Opgegroeid voor galg en rad.
@@patrickw9706 Klopt! Maar ook verdienstelijke muziek gemaakt. Groet!
14 million worldwide sales I guess they understand now lol
Now that didn't age well.
Decca more than made up for not signing The Beatles. To show there was no hard feelings George Harrison recommended to Mike Smith at Decca to sign the Rolling Stones.
The truth was The Beatles were poorly prepared for their audition at Decca. Still if Decca had signed them then The Beatles may not have been given the freedom that they had under George Martin at EMI. The Stones found Decca too conservative hence why they recorded predominantly in the USA.
Exactly, the fact they did not sign at Decca was actually the best that could happen, without knowing it their path to George Martin at Parlophone records opened up, their best team mate they could ever have.
@@julkitan3017 It actually makes my blood run cold to imagine what could have happened at Decca. Mike Smith wasn't a patch on George Martin and almost certainly would have insisted on them recording Tin Pan Alley material. Might even of considered Pete Best the focal point of the group and pushed him forward in the band. Things could have been very different. But don't worry, it's ok, that was just a bad dream!
The Great George Martin
It's nice to see that the Dutch had such a grasp and finger on the pulse of modern musical trends in 1963. Not.
What did I just watch?
A couple of losers
My feet, at 13, ached for Beatle boots already......
My friend wore Beatle boots to school in the 5th grade. It caused a mini riot as kids were running out of the classroom to see the Boots! My friend was ordered to go home and change his shoes! He borrowed the boots from a friend who already matriculated to junior high, we were still in Grammer school. True, crazy story! The power of Ed Sullivan and the media!
No wonder the Netherlands hasn't produced any good music in over 100 years. They don't know what good or great music is...
Two of the best groups ever, Shocking Blue and Pussycat.
Very insightful judges and audience. Because as we all know, the Beatles flopped and were never heard from again. Gee, I wonder whatever happened to those guys 😂
Flipping hash in Rotterdam
It is this show that is the "flop"!
This was never my favourite song from the Beatles either, their later music was more popular. We can work it out, in my life, here comes the sun and lots more would have probably done better on any show, they were still learning how to write songs at this time but it's still an interesting bit of history, thanks for posting
In Western Europe 1963, rock n' roll hits still came from the U.S. The Dutch panel was simply playing the odds that a non-U.S. song would flop. Left brain analysis vs right brain wonderment.
Would appear all the panelists are ideally candidates for employment by Decca Records!
Great song, but I've always preferred 'She Loves You' to it and I never could understand why that song flopped in the U.S. (other than not being released by Capitol at the time) as it is, imo, an overall stronger and more direct than IWTHYH. Especially with its "yeah, yeah, yeah" refrains.
Don't quit your day job people.
A flop ? were the audience simpletons by any chance 🤔😝
Yeah they’re Dutch
They were not ready for this kind of music but their kids loved it 💜💜
@@fretboardmaster70
Agreed, Chris 👍
If you had looked carefully, you would have seen what looked like 2/3 of the audience agreeing to ''flop'' and 1/3 saying ''top." So it was not unanimous by any means.
I wish someone would make subtitles for this, but it’s hilarious it got 100% flop.
I added subs today👍
The Beatles were too tame for those Dutch kids... they were waiting for The Pretty Things!
That was surely based on on "Juke Box Jury" presented by David Jacobs on BBC television in the early 60s.
"Yeah, heard this at the Star Club last week. Nothing special!"
Well that aged well.
Hello Catherine 👋
Did they ever vote on Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand?
Guys in audience didn’t like the Beatles. Chicks in audience loved the Beatles. Checks out!!
No wonder why they lost the last 2 world wars. Beatles 4Ever
?? Who?
@@patrickw9706 Mr. Costello thinks, this people are Germans 😂
@joseph costello These are Dutch, not Germans. Yep, similar languages.
it was okay, maybe the band has another song they might like.
Seems to be a German version of "Juke Box Jury", which began as a local show in Los Angeles, had a U.S. network TV run for a time in the 1950's, and was adapted in Britain, where it had a very long run.
It's not German, but Dutch.
What did they know about music at that time… 🤔..A little i suppose!😄
Thank goodness the Dutch have coffee shops to now help them see the reality of the Beatles
Top or Flop
Is that where Paul discovered James Taylor?........LOL.
No, not in '64
Well let’s not be too harsh the Beatles were turned down on their first try to sign a record contract , the man who turned them down said guitar bands were on the way out when they were obviously on their way in . By the way did these guys listen to the whole song ??
Yes, I believe the same man went on to sign the Rolling Stones? Or at least his company, Decca, did anyway. Good consolation!
These people were out to lunch hahaha
The people on this show don't get to listen to the beginning of the song. So had to make up their minds listening to a small segment of the song. So they said flop.
No wonder the bold guy said it's a flop. Pure hair envy.
Top fo the falier
Cretinos.
A maior banda de todos os tempos.
This seems to be the German version of "Juke Box Jury".
Oops.
They still hated the English...
Having worked and lived in the Netherlands, I can say that the Dutch do not hate the English. In fact far from it.
Are you serious?
I think Alan thinks they’re speaking German
That's because they kept mentioning the war.
@@orbyfan The Dutch people are eternally thankful for the sacrifices made by the British troops that liberated them. I never in the 5 years that I lived there, came across anyone who felt otherwise. However, there is still a deep resentment of Germans, as generations have passed down just how terribly the Dutch were treated by the German occupiers.
That was one of only a few Lennon still liked of the early songs....
Lennon would cut his nose to spite his face.
They were all the way wrong as two left shoes. I am african american and I love the beatles. My brother adored them too. An african american group called Lakeside did a remake of I want to hold your hand. They slowed the tempo and it was a hit on the R&B billboard in late 70's early 80's. czcams.com/video/B0_2-WW882Q/video.html
It sold 7 million. What a flop!
subtitles needed-this is all gibberish
I added subtitels just now.
Ach ja, wat een verkeerde inschatting en wat een oubollige tijd nog, 1963. Men was nog niet veel gewend en dat zo kort na een gruwel oorlog.
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The worst call since the Lou Brock for Ernie Brolio trade the next spring
So I guess that the Beatles failed their German audition here. Apparently the boys didn't lose much sleep over it.
0:26 have you ever seen this guy in your dreams?
Yeah, the Dutch and Germans knew what rock was. WTF ??!!
"Dit is een flop "
I wanna hold your hand is a FLOP according to a Dutch television panel in the early 60s. WOW!
The Dutch always had great taste in music 🤣🤣🤣
Easily putting down what in their eyes and ears is outside of the box.
Had Vincent van Gogh never left to Paris and southern France subsequently, from the Netherlands. in the late 19the century.
He would have remained a real unknown, as he was quite ridiculed in his home country.
Vincent van Gogh is a flop 🤣🤣🤣
A product of Tavistock Square, but some memorable tracks, inspite of all their occulitic baggage.
Oh oh wat hebben ze rich vergist ...
...
Bald guy didn’t like the Beatles' haircut. Wonder why?! 😂
I love the video! I can't believe how the stupid jurors talked only about the Beatles' looks, not the actual music. What squares!! That's what the the Beatles were against... almost everyone except the kids. I wish we could see the same 'jurors' a year later, heheh
Funny how their looks were just as influential as the music as the 1960's progressed.
When someone says you are not worthy of recognition, keep going, you've got something new going on!
Yep. These guys are obviously going nowhere.
This hasn't aged well. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hah hah hah
Is that Decca man Dick Rowe after his new job after rejecting the Beatles. My guess is these are all inmates from insane asylum. Having the words Beatles and flop in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
Ralph Garcia - Amazingly , Dick Rowe kept his A & R job at Decca despite the biggest blunder of his career turning them down. Even more amazing was that George Harrison was still talking to Dick Rowe after the Beatles became famous despite Rowe's earlier rejection of the Beatles and Harrison recommended he check out the Stones and he did, signed them. Rowe got a very lucky break.
@@robmac6508
Listen to the Decca audition tapes - there is nothing there to suggest future greatness.
Yup, what a flop. 12 million copies sold worldwide.
Well what the heck does that lot know about world-beating music?
To those who think that these simpletons are the Germans, sorry, but no. We loved The Beatles, before most of you even heard of them.
These floppy guys are the Dutch. Making double dutch.
I vant to lift mine hand to zee leader. (BAD) German joke attempt by me
Ich glaube es nicht! 🤣
Funny language Dutch: sounds like German, but with a sense of humor. But edam, they've gouda be joking?
I bet they felt like idiots as time went on. Still, the only good thing to come from Holland was Focus.
They're a flop!
What a flop! Just awful. "Pull the plugs out of the amplifiers, now!"
Flop? Poor taste.
Germans on the wrong side again… 😉
Not German, Dutch.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂