Vacuum secondary carb VS Mechanical secondary carb Holley 650. (305 sbc 13 sec 1/4mile?)

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  • čas přidán 11. 11. 2023

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  • @XxMusclecarsxX
    @XxMusclecarsxX Před 8 měsíci +12

    I'm very invested in the progress of this little build lol

  • @NostraThomas25
    @NostraThomas25 Před 8 měsíci +9

    There’s quite a few things you can do for little, or no, money. I don’t know where your tires start to break loose in the burnout, but dropping 10-12psi in those rear tires and getting your RPM up closer to that burnout point, will shave time off those 60’, 0-60, 1000’ and 1/4 mile. You’re doing a great job with the build and your presentation of the videos.

  • @Chris-qv5mc
    @Chris-qv5mc Před 2 měsíci

    Modern day Smokey and the Bandit chase at the end. Awesome!!

  • @mattspontiacta
    @mattspontiacta Před 8 měsíci +4

    Good job. That 305 is running very strong.,
    Running 14.0 is damn impressive!
    I am dialing in a 770 holley vacuum secondary carb. Bought a AFR gauge. Welded in the 02 bung. Got it all working. I got
    my idle circuit
    already dialed in. The AFR gauge is a great tool.
    It’s running pig rich on part throttle so going to step down a couple jets. The primary’s are # 70
    Going to try #66 and see what the AFR gauge says. The secondary jets from the factory are 75 and it’s running lean going to try a set of # 79 jets. You will love the AFR gauge .

  • @claudeladow2334
    @claudeladow2334 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Love watching the progression..

  • @LSxMotorsports2021
    @LSxMotorsports2021 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Sooo close.These are great videos.Keep it up👍

  • @jacobnorth8642
    @jacobnorth8642 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Would hammered that fender out and rattle canned over a couple beers, would have been looking damn proper too!

  • @thomasshirley5046
    @thomasshirley5046 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hell yeah brother. I've got an 87' Trans am I'm restoring I'm putting back in it a 305 bored 40 over comp cam makes it a 311 cu inch I can't wait to get it running I love those cars w a passion nice car brother keep up the excellent work

  • @mattmeyers81
    @mattmeyers81 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Coming along nicely. A looser converter will really wake that thing up. If the cam you are putting in moves the power band up you may end up leaving even softer so I'd definitely look into a converter. I have a aod foxbody heavy vert at that and the difference my 3500 converter made was night and day. I'm pulling 1.7 60' times now compared to 2.3s before. Sadly it's time for mine to hibernate as well as I'm in Northern Indiana right at the michigan line myself..

    • @JimBronson
      @JimBronson Před 7 měsíci

      He's already put a looser converter

    • @mattmeyers81
      @mattmeyers81 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@JimBronson looser then the 2400 or what he said. 3k+ would be night and day.

  • @PortersGarage
    @PortersGarage Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love these videos! Seeing the progression of the car each time is just awesome, keep it up!

  • @andysteele4056
    @andysteele4056 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I like your cam choice, but I think bumping you compression up will help to keep it from being too soggy down low. It's probably about 8.6:1 right now. While it's apart, pull the heads and have them shaved .030 or .040 then re-install with felpro 1094 gaskets (.015 thick). That will get it up around 9.3 and you'll have less than 100 bucks in the mod.

  • @georgiaboy1579
    @georgiaboy1579 Před 8 měsíci

    Well done. I love how you show the progress of each modification. The new cam should be a blast

  • @JimBronson
    @JimBronson Před 7 měsíci

    Getting closer! Double pumper and weight reduction worth 3/10ths! Love this series!

  • @arodderz
    @arodderz Před 8 měsíci

    Love this channel. 👊👍

  • @leviscurlock3986
    @leviscurlock3986 Před 4 měsíci

    Love these videos buddy. The progress is insane.
    You inspire me to buy a 305 camaro and build it. Thank you so much and keep it up!

  • @pinkysgarage4517
    @pinkysgarage4517 Před 8 měsíci

    Such a cool project. Really enjoy the updates and the quantitative comparisons.
    Good stuff. I bet that car is fun as hell to drive!

  • @chrishansen7004
    @chrishansen7004 Před 5 měsíci

    I’d love to see some aftermarket cylinder heads get thrown on there, I know you swapped the heads but factory stuff simply just can’t compare too how good aftermarket sbc heads are nowadays. Would really bring er to life! They could really bring up the compression ratio too with the right chamber size, combined with that cam your putting in you can spin some serious rpm’s with a 305

  • @harleysgarage327
    @harleysgarage327 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for this video, I too have a hopped up 305 and have been thinking about swapping my 750 vacuum secondary for a mechanical secondary. Looks like it is worth the trouble.

  • @bigbrownrooster4167
    @bigbrownrooster4167 Před 7 měsíci

    Fuck yeah dude it’s everything I want my 91 to be😭😭

  • @Clydes.Shop78
    @Clydes.Shop78 Před 8 měsíci +1

    A little faster each video! Good stuff

  • @resistorstudios
    @resistorstudios Před 7 měsíci

    You DEFINITELY Got mid 13's in there. Well done. The cam is definitely holding you back.

  • @itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
    @itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Starting to run respectable times for a street car.😎👍

  • @andrewchristmas2026
    @andrewchristmas2026 Před 8 měsíci

    I really like your videos man

  • @illyrian4life
    @illyrian4life Před 8 měsíci

    Great videos

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful Před 7 měsíci

    Another great before and after video. Love these. I still want to see a better converter on this thing. Get that 60ft below 2

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Interesting that you're going with a single pattern camshaft, curious to see how it works out for you. Hopefully a looser converter is in your future too.

    • @JimBronson
      @JimBronson Před 7 měsíci

      He already put a looser converter in another video

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@JimBronson 2800ish stall, it's obviously not loose enough or it would 60' better. He'll need at least a 3500 stall to truly take full advantage of that bigger cam.

  • @jesseduke694
    @jesseduke694 Před 8 měsíci

    Very nice!

  • @rotaxtwin
    @rotaxtwin Před 8 měsíci

    More folk need to see this video. The negative hype around mech secondary carbs is overblown.

  • @jacoddeoca2764
    @jacoddeoca2764 Před 7 měsíci

    good shit👍👍

  • @andy347495
    @andy347495 Před 6 měsíci

    this has been a fun series to watch, and it's nice to get an idea of what you get from each modification. i also have a 305, but it's in an el camino.
    i was thinking about doing a head upgrade also, but with vortec heads. the wallace racing calculator says you gained about 50hp with your head swap. i wonder how accurate that is, if the difference is attributed t weather conditions also, maybe. if a guy actually gets that much out of a head swap that would be awesome.

  • @joshup1275
    @joshup1275 Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome

  • @jacobnorth8642
    @jacobnorth8642 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love mechanical secondaries but i have stick shifts, i always read a properly set up vacuum secondaries is better, especially for autos. You had two different types of Holley carbs so that is not apples to apples, first more street carb, and second more race (reguardless of how secondaries are actuated)... car running and moving good!

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @jacobnorth8642- If both types of carb's are setup correctly, i have never seen a vacum sec. carb., outperform a mechanical sec. Carb., in a drag race!

  • @davidcraft4909
    @davidcraft4909 Před 7 měsíci

    I've been saying for years that the double pumper mechanical is the only way to go. Even though technically according to holley website a vacuum secondary is the right one for your application. Double pumper is supposed to be for light cars with big power. Maybe in the right hands the vacuum secondary would be better. But in my opinion, just like you showed in this video the double pumper is better. I don't know everything, but I think the stall is what makes it work with a double pumper. Awesome job that car is getting pretty fast for a 305. I also just sent my 305 to the machine shop today to get it bored 30 and cleaned up and stuff. I am really looking forward to see what that cam does.

  • @vettewelder
    @vettewelder Před 6 měsíci +1

    Try to load the converter more on the launch.

  • @stargazingdemigod
    @stargazingdemigod Před 4 měsíci

    Just discovered your channel and subscribed. I picked up an 88 305tbi in November. Ive been debating either building the motor up or swapping it out. You're definitely inspiring me to build up the motor that came with the car

    • @Krikkebobbyracingchannel
      @Krikkebobbyracingchannel  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Should have new video uploaded by weekend of results of the new 280h cam in 305 and a single plane intake.

    • @stargazingdemigod
      @stargazingdemigod Před 4 měsíci

      @@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Nice! I can't wait. Ill be tuned in every episode. Love the channel and thank you for every video

  • @stephenbeard9882
    @stephenbeard9882 Před 8 měsíci

    The harmonica song comes in loud and assaults the ear.
    Otherwise very well done video! Keep it up.

  • @evilinside5984
    @evilinside5984 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Im surprised you went with such a low rpm tq. Converter being such a small cu. In. engine, and the fact that you plan on putting that 230 @ .050 duration cam in there. A 3500 stall would have been much better, heck i put in a 4k, and wish i would have put in a 4500 stall, in my street ride. I had that sbc comp cam in my old camaro, it sounded, and performed Awesome! That comp cam will really make a big difference from 4k to 6k! But i think your 60ft. will not improve, until you get a higher stall speed tq. Converter, and if you do, go with a tight 4k, with Nitrous anti-Ballooning plates, for when you hit it with that sniper 150Hp kit!

  • @Wilson_Racing
    @Wilson_Racing Před 6 měsíci

    You'll miss the front lower air dam when it starts to run hot. Thats a part that needs to stay on

  • @christopherg1972
    @christopherg1972 Před 8 měsíci +1

    impressive 0-60 faster then most challenger rt’s now 😮

  • @hollowell427
    @hollowell427 Před 8 měsíci +2

    now she needs a 3500 stall to compliment the cam.

  • @moonburnt_garage
    @moonburnt_garage Před 8 měsíci +2

    I couldn't tell if you put it back but the radiator air dam is needed, or it will try to over head on the freeway. Bird nose deflects all the air without it. 🎉

    • @CalandMike
      @CalandMike Před 7 měsíci +1

      I was looking for this specifically. I know it's winter up there, but that air dam definitely needs to go back on to keep a F-body cool.

  • @infamousnova
    @infamousnova Před 8 měsíci +1

    Heck yeah 😎

  • @AndyR1982
    @AndyR1982 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'm running the 12-210-2 with 1.6 rockers that give it similar specs to the 12-212-2 in a 9:1 355. I dont remember what stall you put in the bird....but, You are going to want a 3000 stall converter behind your 305 if you are not wanting the 60 foot to suffer man. I love where you are going with the build though.

  • @PontiacRaysGarage
    @PontiacRaysGarage Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video! Are you keeping rough track of costs to see how much you've spent?

  • @OxyBrodone
    @OxyBrodone Před 8 měsíci

    Hell yeah 😎

  • @andy347495
    @andy347495 Před 6 měsíci

    the charger and firebird seem pretty close. is that the 500 pound difference taking effect?

  • @evogibson92
    @evogibson92 Před 8 měsíci

    you also have a heavy bar under the front bumper thats worth cutting up.

    • @jacobnorth8642
      @jacobnorth8642 Před 8 měsíci

      Get a hollow sway bar if you can afford...

  • @darriandk
    @darriandk Před 5 měsíci

    I have a nitrous kit if your interested never used

    • @Krikkebobbyracingchannel
      @Krikkebobbyracingchannel  Před 5 měsíci

      If you haven’t subscribed already do so!! Already have a NX express kit purchase just waiting for warmer weather to start applying up grades and able to show results. @darriandk thanks for offer though.

  • @AllSoWavyReese
    @AllSoWavyReese Před 7 měsíci

    I think it’s missing transmission upgrade and a torque converter

    • @JimBronson
      @JimBronson Před 7 měsíci

      It has a torque converter , but it may not be enough.

    • @AllSoWavyReese
      @AllSoWavyReese Před 7 měsíci

      @@JimBronson thats wat i mean u need to beef up both

  • @yamahaguy1732
    @yamahaguy1732 Před 3 měsíci

    I’m not a fan of vacuum secondary carbs