(Life) Advice From The Creator of C++
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- The creator of C++, Bjarne Stroustrup, shares some valuable life advice that, let’s face it, all developers, no matter their years of experience could use. According to Bjarne, ‘You can’t just do code’, you need to develop more skills if you want to be a well-rounded successful developer. Watch this unreleased interview if you want some inspiration and guidance on your developer journey from one of the OGs.
P.S. Our main mic failed on this shoot, which is why the audio isn't the best - we recommend to not put it too loud and read the subs if you find it annoying. (And yes we did put a de-esser.......)
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I once challenged myself to email some of the smartest people in CS including Bjarne and Paul Graham. I ended up finding Bjarne’s email. This was early in my career and I asked for advice, and he responded: “Be a nice guy and support your colleagues. Try not to work on organizations where people are not nice to each other. Learn to communicate your ideas verbally and in writing”
Wow, that felt so relaxing and nice to read.
thanks for sharing it
Linus Torvalds has entered the chat
Thank you. (And Bjarne)
Just went through my heart!
Did I just listen to the Creator of C++ telling me to touch grass?
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YES
Good advice. I am following it rn
It is something you will learn sooner or later
IQ200 Metaphysics 🧠
The whole 70s - 90s developers were something else, creating humanity changing software, while here I am fixing TypeScript errors.
😂
yeah too much abstraction these days, so many layers over layers.
maybe ask advice from anders hejlsberg 😅
Don't be fooled by nostalgia; what you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg. The monumental works from the 70s-90s are the outliers that have stood the test of time, but let's not forget the sea of forgotten projects that sank without a trace.
@@SO-dl2pv
To a degree. You could write the best tool for a task, and it just doesn't matter how good it is. There already exist 20 tools for this same task. Two or three of them are by corporations that spend more than the combined value of your organs per second on marketing. You can create "humanity changing software" only when the task itself is new, what Stroustrup calls an opportunity. AI is that nowadays. But in the 70s, _nearly everything_ was a new task, and the rising personal computer allowed amateurs, or at least not scientists and highly specialized engineers to approach them. What else to call it but a golden age?
"It's hard to give advice"
*Proceeds to give the best ultimate advice you'll ever need*
And made it look easy too (ie, to give advice not necessarily to follow). I would add discover/recognize your interests/passion and values. I wasn’t good enough to turn-down clients, but did well enough to donate my time/skills to worthy non-profits (environmental advocacy groups in my case).
Not really. He basically said don't waste your life specializing in something, but what if that something is your passion?
@@ViceZone Do you want a narrow foundation or a broad foundation? That's up to you. Also after ten years of just narrowly following your passion you might burn out. I think there can be a middle road between strictly specializing and knowing everything just a bit.
How’s his d taste bro
I mean he said 'overspecialize' specifically. And I think even if you are doing some niche thing, I would argue that occasionally branching out and looking at other stuff is probably a good thing, right?
This is the guy recruiters have in mind in those ads, 50+ years of experience in 20 languages and frameworks
$45k base.
@@mal798 direct hire for 6 to 12 months, no PTO, no sick leave, no holidays, no 401k or medical benefits.
Except even his experience with C++ only goes back to the mid '80s, so he would be a marginal candidate.
A very valid point.
All recruiters seek a truckload of years experience with such and such, however how does one get a foot in the door right after an apprenticeship for example?
Right place right time is what my story is, wound up being an electrical inspector after failing my first electrical apprenticeship and trying again a second time some years later!
I had the opportunity to learn C++ from him in an intro to programming class he taught at my University. What a brilliant mind. He's one of a kind
TAMU?
Learning from the inventor. I think it's the most beautiful experience
Damn....which university though?
Ppl asking which University... Please stop and think if someone else asked you this question would you have respect for your own and many other people's privacy?
i mean he'll still put the uni he attended on his linkedin.
@@Defirence
math sharpens your mind, history gives you some idea of your limitations.. 🤯
bingo
mind blown X D
Guinness book of world records has new entrees constantly. History is no measure of today's limitations.
@@PhoenixDown99999define: hubris
JUST Math and Science! History is BS.
100000%. The older you get you realize this. Stop spending so much time programming and behind the computer. Go outside, make friends and spend more time with friends, family and other humans. This is the single greatest advice anyone can ever receive and you only know how much you regret not doing it when you get older.
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I’ve been focusing more on coding as I procrastinate too much. I just have find time management. Set fun stuffs aside till I finish hw. Then mingle with friends.
yeah, or just try climbing the ladder fast as possible to be the one organizing, communicating and taking responibilties, be an important person not some replacable 2nd to nobody roboting like a BETA cuck.
Programming is a good way to start somewhere but hell no would i stay there coding for decades dying as a nobody who s been rotting behind a display its whole life
cliche but true: stop while you're ahead.
Don't forget to learn about non-programming things like history, language, science and so on.
His hairstyle basically tells you the journey of c++.
Memory leaks
@mmaranta785 wow...
LMAO I'VE NEVER LAUGHED AT COMMENTS BEFORE BUT THIS MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD
What he means is: You might be work very hard but don't forget to live your life. Enjoy your life.
I'll have to remember this through my next 5 years of computer engineering graduation
I think he got his point across just fine, but thanks.
This reminds me of my first teacher, he always said to my class: "Don't let your work become your life". I'll for once, take this advice.
Naa. you got the wrong advice. If you are passionate about your life and your work, you can't separate them. They will become more or less one. This is a much better way to live one's life.
These are the words of Steve Jobs!!!
@@abbasshah8999 I think both are right. You don't need to separate work from life, the idea is to have a job that fulfills you, something you do for passion and the money is secondary, but that's not the same as letting work become All of your life
@@abbasshah8999 Jobs was a very bad leader to Apple's employees and as a person, also not the best. Wouldn't take him as example outside of the business area to be honest.
And this teacher is right, work servers the only purpose of paying for your life(style). Life is not the daily 9-5 timeframe in which you are obliged to perform something in exchange for money, that is not life. That is part of life but not the meaning, not the purpose. Life is family, friends, hobbies (for which you are NOT paid for), music, art, culture, travelling, experiences.
Balance is the key
@@abbasshah8999все правильно, жизнь это и есть наша работа, и нужно постараться сделать и жизнь и работу приятной, интересной, чтобы доставляла радость и был в ней смысл.
“Meth sharpens your mind”-the secret behind C++
That's a myth - math > meth.
Just notice the humble/ non-judmental tone and calm delivery from him. On daily basis, I see several developer posts on linkedin who are talking with absolute/sharp arguments as if they have jurisdiction over ever field of engineering/science and even life related issues.
Dominance brings money
So did he just told me to touch grass?
What a surprise another boomer who worked for 1000/hr in todays money 50 years ago thinks we need to take money and careers less seriously. What a fucking joke.
YES
why are you waiting for his approval 😮
Looks exactly like I would expect the creator of C++ to look like.
Mad scientist hair lmao
He is a computer scientist and you've described the right stereotype ahaha@@TylerRayPittman
You are new here, right?
Lmao
🤣
This guy is such a stud. He basically said: spot glorifying nerd/geek-ism. Don't think just because you're not working on it, or it's not your esoteric interest, it isn't cool or worth your time to participate in. Personally I've always felt that being a well-rounded individual was a good strategy, but hearing it from Bjarne is very reassuring.
as game dev I can really relate to that, I am lonely because how I needed to focus on my career to survive, but the more days passes I realize I am just lonely and don't enjoy life anymore and get depressed so I started to add some color to my daily life by doing different things.
Do tasks outside of work especially ones involving interacting with different people that you know and don't know
I think the most important advice is to learn for yourself and not for other people. Sometime we try to learn a new skill just to end up modifying our learning process to cope with the industry. If you like low-level programming in 2023 then go for it, don't jump into JS, React...etc just because it's what they're hiring for.
True. I thought I hated programming, but I just hated the idea of "specializing" myself into web development because that's what's paying where I am. Now I'm just embracing the stuff I find fun, and learning so much more about how computers operate because of it.
^^100
false. you'll be jobless if you don't consider what the industry needs. for some people it's okay but for most we need fucking money
@@zekicaneksi Which industry? Programming is not an industry in the slightest. Yea, learning assembly for web dev is retarded, but for something else, it might not be.
Your comment just goes against his ideology
This is GOLD.
His advice is precious, I learnt it in a span of 8 years and all of what he said is true.
Of course, He is the creator of c++ , combining C language and smalltalk and c++ born. Not only he is a genius in computer but He jus experienced many ways outside conputer than most people dont
@@teknosql4740
The smart things is that this advice has nothing to do with programming in C++ per se.
Programming Principles & Practice is my favorite technical textbook of all time. It’s literally a masterpiece, full of knowledge and practical advice for programming and for life in general ❤
What is it about. Can you provide a short summary of sorts. I might be curious
@@dontreadmyusername6787 Hey! It's a beginner's intro to programming principles using C++.
It teaches you programming using C++
thanks for the book recommendation!
@@dontreadmyusername6787Unfortunately, you'll never amount to anything.
"Living life in multiple dimensions, to be an artist, one must first embody the roles of philosopher, poet, and teacher in order to express humanity. By feeling the emotions that connect us with each other and employing scientific terminology through programming, this connection is forged."
Wot??
Who said that?
@@naelpontes8444 me , why ?
@@unknownpage9239 oh, neat! Just to confirm. You had written it inside quotation marks so I was wondering if it was someone else that you were quoting.
@@naelpontes8444 thanks!
for unknown viewers, he is 72 years old now
I really like his advice, against the general "grind" culture of nowadays, and being open to other fields.
I didn't know that doc from Back to the Future created the C++ language
Good attempt by the audio engineer to tame Bjarne's famous "S" whistle sound. Unfortunately the result is an overly muffled dialogue sound. Maybe they tried, but for any Bjarne audio, the engineer should be using a De-Esser audio plugin (and one built in C++ likely 🤣)
😂
Well he is from Scandinavia, a lot of them speak that way.
It shouldnt be that hard to tame it right? I thought it was super loud in this video... Just add a de esser in the whistling range, which is much lower hz than the S range
@@LWmusik agreed. A little experience is required to dial in the settings usually 😜
@@MalamIbnMalam No, that entirely depends on where they're from. But he's from Århus, so he has that local dialect plus also being a very strong pronouncer of the "s", even compared to his colleagues :D
Who knew the creator of C++ had such epic hair
Rocking the crazy scientist look
Typical Stereotypes From mad scientist 😂 i mean this man create C+!!
@@arc8218mom can we get c++
No we have c++ at home
C+ 💀💀💀
"Great Scott!"
🤣
Such a legendary and humble being. Sometimes we just sit inside our own boxes, we forget there is a world outside. From the place where I come from, we say it frog in a well. Never leaving that small well, never realizing there is a universe outside.
He looks exactly how I thought the creator of C++ would look like. Big thanks for this marvelous creation
Before he dies i want to thank Bjarne Stroustrup for all the wonderfull things he's given to the world. I really enjoy C++ it's my favorite programming language, but i also love his philosophical approach towards programming, that it's not the end to all means, but just one ingredient to make a perfect cake. (keep socializing, keep going outside, meet new friends, share ideas etc).
Help him make more copies of him, than others.
Before you die, stop writing evil b.s.
This is actually a wholesome video. I thought I wasn't gonna get anything out of it, but this is remarkable. Thanks Honeypot for bringing this gem to all of us.
This is the best advice I've ever heard. I spent a lot of time in front of computers a lot of time to learn CS, C++ and another language and technologies. Now I need to spent my time in my real life, take care of my health and live our the only one life. And my health will be fine and pay attention not only computers.
Some of the least qualified people get the best jobs because they knew the right people. Socializing is just as important as having technical skills.
This is especially true nowadays when the hard work has been done in the previous decades. Now the industry attracts more and more parasites. Eventually when the parasites overthrow the organism (the people who do the actual work), the organisation collapses.
Especially for women.
That's called nepotism.
I don’t think that’s his message. You shouldn’t socialize with the motive that those people could come in handy later for your career. He is trying to say the opposite that job is important and all but even more important is to have a balanced life with friends and family and things you love to do besides working in front of a screen
@@NinjaRunningWildAgreed, have seen it happen many times in the IT field, can't stand their polished giggles when climbing the pay grade ladder.
I spent six years studying towards a Master's in Commercial Law. It burned me out entirely because I realized it's not what I wanted to do myself but what others wanted for me. The first 40 seconds of this video hit hard, even for a non-CS guy.
❌️
I am burned out from chemical engineering studies so burned out I don't even know what I want to do at this point
@@lunaticbseker I know *exactly* what you're going through. I fought that feeling for four years. The best thing you can do is exercise self compassion and don't beat yourself up- it only makes the process take longer.
@@CobusGreyling been going through this close to 3 years now. Thanks for the advice ,I think self compassion is what I am lacking
@@lunaticbseker All the best for you to find self-compassion! To get it you (simply) need to realize that you are a valuable human being and not a machine. Just talk to yourself sometimes and give yourself compliments for even small progress. It helps. Cheers!
Exactly. I'm not a fan of Steve Jobs, but he said that a major impact on his life was when he took some art courses in college, that helped him find and create beautiful patterns and such, and as I remember also informed his concept of simplicity. Which ultimately obviously paid off big time for his software and hardware, because a program that doesn't have an emotionally appealing and intuitive user interface is just not actually useable
Am at the tail end of my life and programming career, where I have devoted my life to developing software, ... this advice is pure gold.
This is gold. I will watch it over and over.
He is positively charming, isn’t he. And the advice is quite wise, too.
I've heard such advice before, but coming from Bjarne it hits different.
"Don't be too sure you know the future.."
I should've been MORE confident..
Basically he's saying "Go touch some grass...."
I am learning C++ right now in college, thank you sir for creating such a great and powerful programming language!
man you're gona looove rust
@@raianmr2843whts so good about rust
@@raianmr2843^^^
@@raianmr2843don't
Advice from the creator of C++ :
🌟 Don't over specialize; stay flexible in career choices.
🌟 Prioritize building relationships and a balanced life outside of computing.
🌟 Communication skills are crucial; coding isn't the sole focus.
🌟 Broad-based education and skill set preparation is valuable.
🌟 Be prepared for opportunities and stay open to diverse learning experiences.
Thank you 😊
I'm so happy to hear Bjarne say this, I've always felt that the industry pushes us to specialize at something because that's when we are most "productive" in terms of output. But then, that skillset you so hard worked for becomes slowly less and less relevant. I'm simply happier when I can learn many different skills (outside CS too!), and I know I will be able to work in the long term too because I will be able to adapt easier.
Here is someone who embodies a blend of qualities that I believe make an excellent role model for today's youth: impressionable, intelligent, intellectual, gifted, and dedicated. In my humble opinion, there's nothing more appealing in a person than the fundamental virtues and qualities of sincerity, honesty, respect, humility, and maturity. When you add intellectualism to this mix, you create living legends like the individual I'm referring to.
I would feel honored to meet Bjarne, although a part of me also feels a bit apprehensive because I don't think I could engage with him on an intellectual level, particularly when it comes to programming and computer science. These are the men and women whom young people worldwide should aspire to emulate and, in fact, strive to surpass. Only then can our world move in the right direction.
Namaste 🙏
Very important advice! Don’t neglect soft skills!
Finally someone said it, I always had this idea in my mind. Life is about juggling multiple balls, doesn't matter how much good you are at one thing there is another thing you loose.
Everytime I see extremely talented Engineer, I always look for how they do in other social & personal skills.
This is one way to avoid imposter syndrome.
Then you meet that Chad who is a 10x, nice, highly sociable yet still chill, empathetic and jacked af.
@@puopgNobody's got it all, you never know what he's hiding.
Besides, life's a slippery slope. Can you say for certain he'll remain exactly like that in a year? How about 10?
@@hashtags_YT Exactly. Its the rise and fall that is hard. Everybody that reaches heights has to come down eventually and thats not a pleasant experience while "mediocre" people, I use that word in least negative way, dont experience highs but also dont experience lows. It really is one of worst feelings in life to have something then lose it. Just look at any athlete or actor that had the highest of highs and now are older they all seem in sort of depression of sorts.
Yep, you gotta choose your sacrifices. But I wouldn’t put that much pressure on anyone. I think it’s best to live without such internal turmoil. Life is to be experienced, and in the end I tend to believe that it doesn’t matter what you have achieved in your work or social life. Just be, help out others when you can
I absolutely detest precocious people who spend their entire lives bossing everything.
- Top of their math class, but also a leading expert on the Romantic Poets, and Keynesian economic theory
- Head of the Debating Society and got a legal scholarship
- Fluent in six languages
- Swimming champion. Runs a 5K in 15 minutes. Bench presses a cruise ship. Captain of the rowing _and_ baseball teams
- Spends his entire life travelling to far flung places you've never heard of
- He'll blow your mind in the kitchen. Best amateur chef you ever met
- Graduated in Political Theory (top of his class) and then did his MBA, but you bet he "learned to code for fun" and beat most CS grads. Now is Chief Engineer at a FinTech or Investment Bank earning a phone number paycheck and has his work-life balance carved into marble. That was a side-step from his old gig being a trader, mind
- Super confident socialite with a professional comedian-grade sense of humour, best friends with everyone he walks past in the street, has never ever been single. Married to a borderline supermodel and has 4 kids
The perfect life and an easy mode speedrun. I've known people like this and see no hope for myself.
Creator of one of the greatest programming language said to me to "Go outside and touch grass" really put an impacted to me. Truly a wonderful experienced.
It’s unusual to come across a truly bright person like this. Thank you for making this video available.
This is why I'm a developer by profession but a theologian by passion. I fix bugs in computer software, create architecture of future products and maintain CI/CD pipelines and at the same time I help people fix the sin issue, create a heavenly atmosphere around me and maintain friendships in Christ.
God bless my friend
Spending time with our Creator is the best
So you're delusional then? if you're a theologian that is.
@@sammatthew7 exactly! May He bless you and your loved ones abundantly! :)
Top notch advice, in the end its all about people.
Feels like this was a message of "Do what you do and hopefully you get lucky, or just chill and have a life "
Indeed, it's fascinating to bring pioneers of the software development industry into the spotlight. Their insights and experiences pave the way for the innovations we see today.
Amazing video! Really good and logical advice.
So you have to write code AND documentation?
Indeed, recognising the opportunity present around us needs a holistic approach to everything. Education is building layers of skills and experiences unto oneself so that we can contribute with our ideas. Really a legend whose life is an inspiration, man he knew 2 dozen languages at a time. Flexibility is so crucial!
he is like budha of coding world,works so heavenly,talks down to earth
*Buddha
Dude looks like Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty.
Weirdly enough one of the reason I decided to take that career path in computer science was the opportunity to learn. I never ever hear of people saying that software engineer is like a meta career in regards to the fact that you can literally work in any field, trying to help people through automation in any domain. And of course, computer science progress is moving so fast that you inevitably have to learn and master new techniques all the time.
The remarkable advice from one of greatest men on computer.
I thought I would hear something opposite and I'm suprised in pleasing way. I happy that such acomplished person says something I'm personaly beliving.
A good example of a generally good message having a lot of power due to the delivery and who is delivering it. If Stroustrup is telling nerds to broaden themselves then they should listen.
It is a good advice regardless of the profession, but perhaps more relevant for the programmers since there's generally an overemphasis on the technical side of things
Love C++ and love Bjarne Stroustrup, but I needed this 30+ years ago when I was fresh off Uni, I did most of those mistakes :)
"You could either be playing sudoku and it will be the same" damn, this is so true, if theres no others to share it with, it doesn't matter what you do.
People in software would take his advice seriously than it coming from anybody else. We need to realise there is life outside of sitting in front of screen all day. The sooner we realize the better it is.
Yeah we should spend all day standing in a field playing golf.
That life doesn't pay money
The man brings is wisdom with such class, amazing!
was that a C pun? lol
@@error0803For sure.
What an authority. (truth) thanks for this upload.
I especially like the notion about communication. How far could we go if we speak truthful to each other.
The greatest thing technical people can learn is social skills, very simple
I never believed in "this one thing will change your life" videos (who does?). But one of the smartest person giving this advise made me realise life is complicated. You will have 1 or 2 or even 50 things to work on and it will just depend on your life.
I understood your first sentence but then nothing else.
@@plica06 agree
This man is a living legend
This speech totally delighted my day!
“Write the best code and change the world” have seen lot of them. I agree about Listening. It’s an art.
Este man es genial, gracias por preservar estas palabras
Fantastisk rådgivning! Vi er så stolt at dig Bjarne!
Jag kan prata pa svenska
Er dette norsk eller svensk? Det ser ut som en bland av de begge to.
Åh, det må være dansk nå at jeg tenker på det litt mer.
Wisdom and modesty. Thank you, Dr. Stroustrup.
This is quite Wholesome!
Thanks Honeypot for this :)
Watching the person who created C++ after months of learning in my semesters is a different experience. The target audience for this video seems to be nerds and introverts.
This man is a treasure ❤
Exactly ❤🎉😊
To put it simply: one should know how to apply what they learn in practice. This takes multitude of different skills sometimes completely unrelated to coding, or math, or any technical science :)
OMG I was in need of this now!
Wow, it's great to see that one of the greatest computer programmers thinks there's more to life than computer programming💌
And apparently still loves Lego ☺
Wait there's a life outside computing?
this is very good advice that can be applied to most (if not all) fields. timeless advice, too.
Humble.
That's the message.
Damn, Bjarne really described me in that first minute :')
As a Lead Data Engineer, communication is EVERYTHING, collaboration is key to bring success to any of your projects, in my experience all of the projects that get stuck it is because of lack of communication and collaboration between colleagues or entire teams. Even if you are dealing with factually undertrained or egotistical people, talk to them, bring them to calls and show them clearly what the problems are from your prespective, make them understand why the process does not work.
Thank you very much for your advice!
Thanks for the advice
People in 70-90s are absolute beast, they create whole different world like internet, meanwhile me fixing bug on js
It depends on that field of engineering you end up in. There are still jobs that involve C/C++ like self-driving cars, robotics, embedded systems/IoT
ASSEMBLY
Daim that was wise ✅
this is how i imagined the c++ creator would look like
Exactly what my Mechatronics Professor said. Great advice! Especially, for all of us Nuerodivergents in these types of careers.
You know is bad when Bjarne himself needs to tell you not to be an unbalanced nerd.
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I have many respect for this great man
Bro, these three minutes felt like three hours. he gave so many advices, which felt unreal for my brain to be fit in three minutes:
Meet the people that you're creating something for first, then go learn whatever you gotta learn to make something for those friends. If you wanna make games, meet the players, not the artists or programmers, hang out with them and become their friends, and then learn what you've gotta learn to entertain them.
I wish I would've seen this 20+ years ago...
Social life of a programmer is especially important - "social" life that is, deeply resonating with some - quick to weed out those not fulfilling or just toxic social energy
no matter what you're doing it has to make some connection. It's a journey, so may as well make connections along the way! Things only have value cuz they make connections with other ppl.
The complex jobs today require a high set of social skills more than ever before. Here in europe it breaks down to social-emotional intelligence apart from your plain knowledge. Playing "social chess", giving lecture at company about a project, being good with people, communicating etc. The old generations of engineers by the definition were often uncharismatic hermits living in their parallel world. Job markets expierience a shift and it´ll only proceed further in the next 10-20 yrs. Focusing on your degrees alone is and always was a false promise of the industry which has desire to accuqire cheap workforce quickly. Growing as a person is more important
@@wackrapsatire Yeah, I've never been at or seen a programmer job that didn't require a high level of social intelligence and getting along with people working in a team, impossible to find a job in a regular company here if you're not social.
True, yes. I feel like school needs to reevaulate what to teach and focus more on fundamental principles of us human beings - to be in touch with yourselfs and others/your surroundings, being able to speak fuently expressing yourself, your thoughts and emotions, especially in front of other people, strangers. More and more kids seem to struggle with this given the effects of social media and their fear of not being good enough, being judged by others. I suspect more teens than ever feel the need of adapting within their peers because of that, - look at the clothes they wear, they all look the same no matter you´re in the US, italy, germany, sweden, canada - which then leads to identiy diffusion, not knowing who you are, what you want as your living to the likes of other people. I keep seeing these topics within the youth more than it was relevant in my teen days back in the 90s. But adults struggle with all off this aswell, not just young people.@@TwitchCronos100
This is a great example of when a de-esser is absolutely necessary