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  • Stringdrive Technologies Llc.
    Stringbike is pioneering in inventing a revolutionary way of getting bikes into motion, completely doing away with conventional chains, derailleurs, gear shift mechanisms and related parts.
    The heart and soul of Stringbikes uses a uniquely innovative technology: strong, durable and extremely flexible ropes and an accompanying drive-train. Similar ropes are used in fitness training to lift weights and at heavy-duty sailing equipment.
    Please visit our website: stringbike.com

Komentáře • 711

  • @mikelo303
    @mikelo303 Před 9 lety +640

    Is it lighter? More durable? Mud resistant?
    Basically why you think it's better than current solutions?

    • @irbis056
      @irbis056 Před 9 lety +50

      Same question came to my mind

    • @Kris.G
      @Kris.G Před 9 lety +105

      Also can anyone just cut it with scissors when you're not looking?

    • @ericoschmitt
      @ericoschmitt Před 9 lety +11

      +gietek You can carry extra (and very light) strings.

    • @ericoschmitt
      @ericoschmitt Před 9 lety +27

      +mikelo303 Not sure if it is lighter, but doesnt look any heavier.
      Doesnt look "mud resistant", but then again, mud doesnt seem to affect performance as it does with chains.
      And it probabily isnt any more durable than a single chain, but it looks simple to replace.
      If you break one cable, you can probably still get home with just one side, if you dont have extra cable on the spot.
      I can't tell it is better, but certainly doesnt look any worse. If it is the same price, I would certainly try.
      But a big use i see for this: You can make possibly any kind of design for the pedal drive, so you can make any kind of applied force graphic during the pedal, and even improve a concept like the oval or osymetric chainring.
      And another advantage i see is: if it is mass produced, you can have way cheaper shifting. It seems simpler than a derraileur. And you can possibly combine it with an adapted version of Shimano Nexus, or NuVinci hubs.
      I also think the pedals could be simplified if you added a sheave directly in the outer part of the crank arm, between the pedals and the crank, and also add the gears to the crank. And then, you can add a sheave in the seat tube, just where a front derailleur would be, so the force would be put in the front part of the movement.

    • @LaszloPalfi
      @LaszloPalfi Před 8 lety +28

      +mikelo303 Spring Drive is far more simple and more convinient than chain drive and gear shift mechanism ;-)
      Spring Drive
      - consits of less parts and more simple then chain drive as there is NO shifting mechanism on the back wheel,
      - offers the possibility of shifting while STANDING or while driving UPHILL
      - is cleaner because it uses NO grease on the outside,
      - offers smooth driving as there is NO micro vibration caused by the links,
      - offers immediate starting without the need of turning the pedal into horizontal position, because it automatically repositions the pedal into horizontal position when you take off your foot

  • @demonhog922
    @demonhog922 Před 7 lety +12

    This is a prime example of thinking whether they could, rather then if they should.

    • @KillerRaptorr
      @KillerRaptorr Před 7 lety +1

      Yup totally, Exactly like your poor thinking. Just like the rest of the world and stupid people like you. But hey when real people make something and it comes around, O MY GOSH you're riding it.
      Just like the guy who made bikes, I mean. We all could walk, or ride houses. Why ride bikes? But now look at the world.
      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prime example of stupid people like you.

    • @demonhog922
      @demonhog922 Před 7 lety +2

      KillerRaptorr they took the concept of a bicycle and made it worse, how am i stupid for it?

    • @mikakorhonen5715
      @mikakorhonen5715 Před 7 lety

      Demonhog Plays Forgive him, no engineering backround.

    • @ozzykircali2446
      @ozzykircali2446 Před 6 lety

      This system makes it easy to insert and eject the rear tire.

    • @bricology
      @bricology Před 3 lety

      @@ozzykircali2446 -- _kind of_ . . . but if that's the main advantage, it would be a lot more straightforward to invent a run-flat tire that wouldn't be vulnerable to going flat.

  • @sebbes333
    @sebbes333 Před 7 lety +15

    WOW, so much hate on a new idea, instead of just saying that "it's bad", at least say WHAT YOU think is bad so the designer have something to work with.
    I think it's a really cool idea, it's very informative, you get rid of that oily chain that no one want to touch, it could be quieter than a chain (depending on how the pedal contraption sounds), it seams to be many times easier to change than with a chain (and again, no oil = clean hands after maintenance).

    • @user-jk5iz3pd1e
      @user-jk5iz3pd1e Před měsícem

      Ну, диванных экспертов никто не отменял!))

  • @vooyas.mp4
    @vooyas.mp4 Před 9 lety +159

    lets show you a couple of strings with no explanation of how it actually works. a system that requires completely proprietary frames for it to even work wont really catch on that well

  • @vitaliygnatenko4832
    @vitaliygnatenko4832 Před 8 lety +3

    What a great try on the endless way of innovation! The string drive concept might show its advantages not only in this marvellous bike but in other bikes in the future as well.

  • @kenyil
    @kenyil Před 7 lety

    He make this revolution with much effort. If we don't want to buy it at least we can appreciate him. Not mocking him and cut his passion. Please don't mock him like you always right.

  • @elidinkhauser4275
    @elidinkhauser4275 Před 7 lety +6

    *Thanks CZcams! That is what i wanted to watch 2017!*

  • @arborinfelix
    @arborinfelix Před 7 lety +50

    I know what I get from a traditional bike. There are no strings attached.

  • @Thoracius
    @Thoracius Před 5 lety +6

    Question -- is circular pedaling even ideal in the first place? This drive train could easily accommodate elliptical pedaling or linear/pump pedaling, which might be nice on a recumbent where you can take advantage of the resistance of the seat back against your back.

    • @warrensutthoff3744
      @warrensutthoff3744 Před 9 měsíci

      That's the first thing I thought is that this belongs on a recumbent

    • @tonyhawk123
      @tonyhawk123 Před 7 měsíci

      The problem with linear is only one leg is doing work at any one time

  • @cahman8
    @cahman8 Před 7 lety +1

    A lot of people out there saying those string are going to break must not be familiar with some of the man made materials available. 4mm cord is readily and cheaply available with over 1000 lb tensile strength. Go to some exotic materials and I'm sure your looking at several times the strength of any bicycle chain.

  • @dave_6391
    @dave_6391 Před 8 lety +208

    No, it is way to over complicated, and the bike frame has to be re-designed and it is just not worth it. We already have belts and chains that are tried and tru. this is useless.

    • @LaszloPalfi
      @LaszloPalfi Před 8 lety +4

      +Dave _ Spring Drive is far more simple and more convinient than chain drive and gear shift mechanism ;-)
      Spring Drive
      - consits of less parts and more simple then chain drive as there is NO shifting mechanism on the back wheel,
      - offers the possibility of shifting while STANDING or while driving UPHILL
      - is cleaner because it uses NO grease on the outside,
      - offers smooth driving as there is NO micro vibration caused by the links,
      - offers immediate starting without the need of turning the pedal into horizontal position, because it automatically repositions the pedal into horizontal position when you take off your foot

    • @dave_6391
      @dave_6391 Před 8 lety +6

      yea no l'll stay with the tried and true
      No rear derailleur because it has been moved up to the peddle sections. so there is a shifting mech.
      Now lets count the parts needed for your shifting.
      There is the special addition of the peddles. Then there is the gear mech on the peddles on both sides not just 1. Then there is the rear mech that the string attaches to not to mention the internal spring on both sides. so instead of 1 hub you have 2 on 1 wheel.
      By my count you ave already passed a rear derailleur bike in the amount of parts simply because you have to have double of everything on both sides to make this work
      moving a peddle to your comfortable starting position is not an issue. To pass that off as a benefit is senseless as my starting position is different compared to where someone else would like their peddle to start off at.
      Then you have the string Strings fail more than a chain or belt. So again I will pass This is over complicating things for no real benefit. To redesign something like the drivetrain of a bicycle you have to provide a benefit. This does not do such. It is just over complicating it.

    • @DJ-xr5wb
      @DJ-xr5wb Před 7 lety

      László Pálfi but it costs more, like trying to sell ice to Eskimos

    • @truints
      @truints Před 7 lety +1

      It's not pinned dumbass. It's looped through. How does it being connected have anything to do with reliability?

    • @truints
      @truints Před 7 lety +1

      Where? Bitch, where? Where did I bitch about slipping? If you are referring to the string getting wet. You need to go back to school little kiddy boy. Did you know that when clothe materials get wet they soak up water and the properties change? You should do some research you dunce.

  • @PaulLorbeer
    @PaulLorbeer Před 8 lety +7

    It is very simple. If it is superior, it will survive. So, unless I didn't ride such bicycle what can I contribute to the discussion? Yes, there are a lot of parts, but maintenance could actually easy. Again, without any first hand experience, it is difficult to form a proper opinion. Moreover, there seems to be a trend towards chainless systems. And who says that the string bike can't improve. So all in all I like the idea - not for the sake of innovation. It simply is an evidence for creativity and the will to do things differently. Remember: there is no box :-)

    • @skywalker2837
      @skywalker2837 Před 7 lety +1

      gregistopal it works like your lawnmower starter, the fucking string doesn't need friction, it will fucking fling that dirt while you pedal just so you know

    • @WowCreativeUsername
      @WowCreativeUsername Před 7 lety +1

      Sky Walker Do you work for the company or something? Every one of your comments on this video have been you aggressively defending this impractical concept.

  • @RudyRydz69
    @RudyRydz69 Před 9 lety +8

    Powodzenia, będzie się przecierać. Do tego już widzę te zerwane sznurki podczas podjazdów pod wzniesienia... Mi się kilkukrotnie zdarzyło urwać łańcuch przy podjeździe...

    • @dusieqq
      @dusieqq Před 9 lety +2

      to jak ty jeździsz? grindujesz na najmniejszym biegu czy co?

  • @thacrackfox
    @thacrackfox Před 7 lety +35

    My first thoughts at a glance is that this can't be an efficient power transfer.. I presume that in each instant when those strings see a load they will slightly elongate, resulting in energy loss.
    I'd like to see the numbers on energy loss between this vs conventional setup.
    Obviously no system is perfect.
    Also how does it affect performance, not just within the internal power transfer, but the pedal strokes. Like how does it feel to ride it? What muscle groups are recruited and at what point of the pedal stroke... Basically can a rider achieve the same performance across both platforms.
    Also how many watts can it handle before failure.
    Seems pretty awesome for just cruising around. Obviously innovative and functional. But if energy loss is a serious problem, it could turn even a casual joy ride into a suffer fest.

    • @skywalker2837
      @skywalker2837 Před 7 lety

      thacrackfox i think they could fix the elongation problem by using cables

    • @luispersaud6744
      @luispersaud6744 Před 7 lety +1

      +Sky Walker I think using cables sort of diminishes what they were going for here but would definitely fix any power loss issues.

    • @laharl2k
      @laharl2k Před 7 lety +2

      thacrackfox
      not sure you but i dont see it handling 100W for many kilometers......
      maybe if they had used nylon or kevlar but that string looks like a shoe lace

    • @jmrstudiorecvideoproductio112
      @jmrstudiorecvideoproductio112 Před 6 lety

      very true...

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius Před 3 lety +2

      Moot. It's Dyneema cord.

  • @BrianCooperGplus
    @BrianCooperGplus Před 2 lety +1

    They were so busy figuring out how they could, they never stopped to think if they should.

  • @colinbruce8800
    @colinbruce8800 Před 9 lety +66

    At least no scum bad will steal the back wheel as they won`t know what to do with it as it won`t fit anything else. ( No sprockets)

    • @shithead
      @shithead Před 8 lety +5

      +colin bruce use it on the front

    • @psychoaiko666
      @psychoaiko666 Před 7 lety

      faceballbat well, that depends on the width, normally front hubs have a width of 100 mm and that thing looked considerably narrower.
      I love your nic btw

    • @cadillacman8223
      @cadillacman8223 Před 7 lety +6

      they'll just cut your strings

    • @allenlark
      @allenlark Před 7 lety

      colin bruce why couldn't he just put it on his bike?

  • @Ferelmakina
    @Ferelmakina Před 7 lety +9

    It's technically beautiful. I would like to know the advantages of this kind of bike over the regular chain bike.

    • @6s9hcr2
      @6s9hcr2 Před 2 lety

      pros could be it has string on both pedals so its better pedalling experience, string replacement is easier, rear tyre can be esily removed, its now lighter as you are pulling less metal (chain and sprokets) and would be a little more efficient to ride (chains links have losses due to friction)
      But all this can be easily achived by chain drive as well at half the price, except it is a bit heavier, and less effcient, keeping all other parts the same.
      So its basically more effiecient, lighter bike thats almost double the cost.

    • @geocoucool
      @geocoucool Před rokem

      @@6s9hcr2 Silent too !

    • @6s9hcr2
      @6s9hcr2 Před rokem

      @@geocoucool well, lets say the bicycle is not known to make much noise in the first place. But yes, you are correct.

    • @geocoucool
      @geocoucool Před rokem

      @@6s9hcr2 yes I agree with you

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit Před 11 měsíci

      @@6s9hcr2 losses on this will be a small amount of pulley friction - especially rolling around the "cam" profile in the pedals. Also string stretch hysteresis. If it takes more effort to stretch the string than they pull back. A steel cable is less stretchy, but isn't flexible enough to track round the pulleys properly. Mind you it's got 4 string segments per side supporting the load and the runs aren't hugely long.

  • @chrispariseau3935
    @chrispariseau3935 Před 7 lety +1

    wow a bike that you have to peddle.... and its more complex and expansive then a traditional one....now that innovation.

  • @taylorbednarz2972
    @taylorbednarz2972 Před 7 lety

    Finally! I've been asking for a string powered bike for years!

  • @ruben-wb7bt
    @ruben-wb7bt Před 7 lety +1

    Looks amazing at the end for people with unfunctional legs.

  • @mageshkongu
    @mageshkongu Před 7 lety

    I am happy to see your alternative thinking

  • @Maccaroney
    @Maccaroney Před 7 lety

    This looks like a really cool concept with some less than practical designs limitations.

  • @karlavelo2482
    @karlavelo2482 Před 5 lety

    At last someone solved the problem of keeping one's trousers clean on a bike !

  • @vaughandsouza5309
    @vaughandsouza5309 Před 7 lety +1

    I want one , it's looks super cool 😍

  • @MrHannatas
    @MrHannatas Před 7 lety +2

    The friction from the pedals on those guides would wear them out extremely fast. Especially when it gets sand and dust there.

    • @KillerRaptorr
      @KillerRaptorr Před 7 lety +2

      Ball bearings. Simple. There's a ball bearing in the middle of the pedals that comes into contact with the arms, and then it spins as it pushes the arms forwards. Less friction. And the rollers are just rollers. The rear attachment holders are just there to hold the string in place, When you pedal forwards, it pulls the rear hub in the back forward, then when the string is loosen. the hubs roll/rubberband backwards and you pedal again, you pull forwards again.

    • @pcblah
      @pcblah Před 7 lety +1

      There may be ball bearings, but you're still adding more rotating parts than needed. 4 extra bearings for the pedal assembly alone, then you have to worry about two ratchets (with two springs and bearings in them) and the two pulleys. Not to mention that it seems that the wheel itself needs a set of bearings and such.

  • @Gallardo6669
    @Gallardo6669 Před 8 lety

    what incredible ideas humans can have.my respect!

  • @mikefranz1056
    @mikefranz1056 Před 4 lety +1

    With a conventional crank, a leg generates the sinusoidal torque in downstroke only. Both legs have sinus of torque of double cadence. That means tongue changes in 0-100% its value around 50% avg. Making the propulsion phase longer than a bike has would contribute to propulsion more given the same stress on joints. So, string bike developers must juxtapose torque diagrams to make their case. Traditional chain is not that awful compared to this awkward pulley demonstration for school students.

    • @tonyhawk123
      @tonyhawk123 Před 7 měsíci

      You had the opportunity to share engineering knowledge but just ended up sounding snarky. Oh well.

    • @mikefranz1056
      @mikefranz1056 Před 7 měsíci

      A snarky tone prompts a check it out, and if a post is B.S. the author is the idiot with emotional problems. So you are welcome to prove me the idiot but with your engineering knowledge only without resorting to ad hominem. If you tried-&-oked, just say, "Thank you for unpaid education. Too many "wanna-be" Edison litter the Internet with their "inventions" having no real STEM education. Officially retarded (his teacher diagnosed it) Edison was a thief of intellectual property as he hired hundreds of engineers and if history repeats itself, then only as a snark."@@tonyhawk123

  • @LAHover
    @LAHover Před 7 lety

    Super cool, but kind of off how Audio stops half way through the video...

  • @chrisk2673
    @chrisk2673 Před 7 lety

    It's meant to ride around in an exposition setting, where there isn't environmental factors involved.

  • @netmatrix75
    @netmatrix75 Před 7 lety +1

    The spring mechanism is something like those retractable cable management loops. You pull and it retract is you don't pull. When you pedal the pulling motion pulls the spring loaded hub and generate forward motion. The hub then retracts the string once the peak motion is achieved. I can see the benefit of having equal torque on both side of the hub. But this is not a car where there are 2 wheels at the back.
    The fixed non adjustable wheel pin means you must have serious design and material tolerances to get it to align correctly every time.
    I am thinking how much torque can those strings take? Also the super dangerous looking crank design. Seems like a lot more can be pulled inside (pants, sticks, etc) compared to a chain ring.
    While it is an amazing engineering feat and design, i don't think it is safe or durable enough compared to the traditional chain & sprockets.

  • @sylvainroyere
    @sylvainroyere Před 4 lety

    It's ME who imagined it long before this one !

  • @ImprovingAbility
    @ImprovingAbility Před 7 lety

    some music and then some silence and a video I don't quite understand, but looks interesting, are there any strings attached?

  • @crazylarryjr
    @crazylarryjr Před 7 lety

    cool concept, and even adaptable for handicapped riders, where conventional setups are not

  • @getreadyforthepunch3474
    @getreadyforthepunch3474 Před 8 lety +18

    if this shit is more expensive than an average roadbike prices, those who made this have problems.

    • @nezarl8374
      @nezarl8374 Před 8 lety +5

      really ..
      and it looks more complicated ..
      why would any one pay for it if it's not cheaper

    • @skywalker2837
      @skywalker2837 Před 7 lety

      THE MASTER NEZAR it works like your lawnmower starter

  • @TheRRC86
    @TheRRC86 Před 5 lety

    Too much comments to read to find out if somebody already asked: This system ONLY works in a 2 crank shaft holes frame, if so, you should find the way to make it possible on standard frame.

  • @Madogen
    @Madogen Před 7 lety

    I love this. Why? People need to question why we design and engineer things in a certain way, look for new innovative ideas. These ideas lead to advancement, either directly or by leading to creative thinking in others. This is a whole new way of thinking, and it works. Why are people trying to crush creative thinking? Did you think the rotary engine was a complete waste? Perhaps diesel electric should have been left as steam? Why even bother with diesel cars when you have petrol? Come on guys (and gals) what is the point in belittling the designers.
    I do agree that the music issue should be sorted out though.

  • @binkiemcfartnuggets7803

    When I see a bicycle, I think of the flapjack episode. "Bicycle! Bi meaning 2, cycle meaning 2!"

  • @michaelmeisman4731
    @michaelmeisman4731 Před 7 lety

    After reading many, too many, of those complaining all I want to say is WELL DONE!
    This is not ever going to be a replacement of the time tested bicycle we already have and love. But this is engineering at its best. Not that the end result is the best solution. But it is someone working outside the box and that is just not taught or encouraged in most of today's academia.
    However I have my engineering brain working over board on other places where this ingenious little device could truly be put to great use vastly improving its performance.
    Well done my friend, well done.

  • @michelgilain
    @michelgilain Před 8 lety

    Ingénieux ,tout bonnement fantastique.

  • @aznnubbyboy
    @aznnubbyboy Před 7 lety

    It's a pretty cool concept. With all the blabbering about rules of engagement yadda yadda. I think that a true engineer would appreciate the idea and thought put into this bike. Although it may not be as durable as a conventional chain bike, it's cool to see odd things being done.

  • @corlfranco9371
    @corlfranco9371 Před 7 lety +59

    if its not broken why fix it?

    • @riftborn1058
      @riftborn1058 Před 7 lety +2

      Corl Franco to improve it. If we take it a bit further and move to motorcycles, a chain has quite a few flaws. A chain needs "constant" cleaning, and needs to be regulary lubed. And you have to constantly tighten it so that it doesnt jump off the sprocket. And also, if it should snap, its unlikley to run straight off, and would lock your back tire. A belt removes a lot of these issues, but is much less efficient (11% power loss, compared to 3% on the chain) pluss a belt is expensive, so its a lot more expensive to replace. The string could improve the bike, but i fail to see where

    • @Adamjen
      @Adamjen Před 7 lety

      +Riftborn Ever heard of rubber drivelines? Quite common on bikes nowadays.

    • @Adamjen
      @Adamjen Před 7 lety +2

      +Riftborn riiiight i just finished reading you comment. Forget what i wrote. Also, thank you for helping me find the right word for "rubber driveline", lol. Belt belt belt belt belt belt belt

    • @riftborn1058
      @riftborn1058 Před 7 lety

      Haha, nice :D

    • @josephmorris6090
      @josephmorris6090 Před 7 lety +5

      Forget chain and belt, I prefer my shaft driven bike.

  • @KillerRaptorr
    @KillerRaptorr Před 7 lety +1

    Love the comments below. I guess no one grew up using pull back toy cars, or ever made a rubberband car before. It's very easy to even understand how it all works. Sure the interesting cable pull system is a tricky part (For gear shifting.) , But for the most part that's fairly easy to overcome on any bike.
    All they did was change the drive system to be a rubberband system with strings. Understanding a high strength string system like Paracord or bungie cord is like 101.
    I think it's awesome. I mean this isn't around probably. but it's a nice idea that was tossed about. I mean look at half of the bikes around now adays. We got walker bikes, belt driven bikes, shaft driven, etc.

  • @RukaSubCh
    @RukaSubCh Před 7 lety +1

    Interesting, so a ratchet with a return spring to turn the wheel using Paracord , using 2 to make a complete cycling action with power strokes for each downward thrust . There maybe a better application to this then a bicycle, many an active wheelchair but even in that application there are already electric wheelchairs.

  • @62shalaka
    @62shalaka Před 7 lety

    Impracticality taken to levels unseen in bicycling history. Congratulations.

  • @ericoschmitt
    @ericoschmitt Před 7 lety +12

    Has any test with pedal power meter been done on them to compare eficiency vs a similar bike with chain drive? and why doesnt the rear wheel has normal quick release and that thing mounted on a regular flip flop fixie hub?

    • @rostifardian
      @rostifardian Před 7 lety

      Érico Schmitt I'm interested in power application too. Could you stand up and really put torque down on this bike and the "gear selection" stay in place? That's the location I see slipping. And the reason there isn't a quick release is because the gears need to stay on the frame. It behaves like a Maxle on a mountain bike.

    • @ketmax2805
      @ketmax2805 Před 7 lety

      Érico Schmitt they used a a thru axle so they can just drop the wheel not the whole thing because on qr skewers you have to use dropouts because the skewers can't be removed quickly from the wheel but thru axles can be removed quickly from the wheel and also they a lot stronger and stiffer than a quick release thru axles are big in the mountainbiking world and they are appearing more on road bikes.

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 Před 7 lety

    The drive mechanism may have a future in personal locomotion. Wheelchair and the like.

  • @Czarekkx60DirtBikeJunior
    @Czarekkx60DirtBikeJunior Před 9 lety +1

    Fajny wynalazek :), ale i przykład jak skomplikować prostą rzecz :)

  • @shacoclone3299
    @shacoclone3299 Před 7 lety

    I don't see any significant advantages, but I really like the concept and I think it is a really cool and interesting product.

  • @charlotteice5704
    @charlotteice5704 Před 7 lety

    I think this needs much refinement. The problems I see with it are that special frames are needed, the mechanism is exposed (would catch mud easily, strings could be cut) and the strings might not be able withstand the power of a strong cyclist (or motor). I don't know if you can adjust which pedal pops up (I would like the right and not the left one to pop up) and if you have MTB (or maybe BMX too) pedals they might hurt your shin when they pop up. The mechanism is pretty innovative and unique though.

  • @templarknight2400
    @templarknight2400 Před 7 lety

    Okay that's one of the wildest ones I've seen

  • @jasonstokes361
    @jasonstokes361 Před 5 lety

    Looks to be a centrifugal clutch hub mechanism that would enable the rocking pull motion at a guess...

  • @Brian-uj6gm
    @Brian-uj6gm Před 7 lety

    Dope concept idea and model. Only thing I'd be worried about is someone cutting he strings or the strings getting torn.

  • @justindtackett
    @justindtackett Před 7 lety

    I think it's pretty cool. Innovation helps refine products. It's for the better even if it's not perfect and doesn't catch on. I'd like to ride one though. My interest is peaked.

  • @antichrist6668
    @antichrist6668 Před 7 lety

    It's just something that looks cool but in reality is just impractical

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym Před 6 lety

    I think you need to show the insides of the hub with the sPring inside it.
    It seems to me that you have to overcome the sPring (inside the hub. Not to mistake with the visible sTrings!) force on each load-cycle (ie leg pushing down).
    Obviously the force needed to roll-back the sTring would be minimal compared to the propulsion force needed, but it would be important for comparing efficiency with conventional chain/belt systems which transfer nearly all the force to the wheel (assuming no stretching/deformation in the chain/belt).
    That's the most important question however, because most of your cycling will be spend at selected gear, and not switching gears, so you need the highest efficiency there.
    Everything else looks great IMO! (and pedaling itself can be optimized even more if one doesn't feel nostalgic for the fully circular motion of the feet :)

  • @lancethrustworthy
    @lancethrustworthy Před 7 lety +89

    What happened?? You had music, then you went dead. Not cool. Not consistent.
    You're showing incompetence in the video by not doing it right.
    It makes your product look very questionable. See how that works? Lol.

    • @mcOscarmann
      @mcOscarmann Před 5 lety +1

      I loved that detail. The music of all these type of videos simply sucks... my ears were grateful.

  • @sAINT898
    @sAINT898 Před 7 lety

    More ground clearance at the bottom bracket is an advantage.
    Need to figure out how to use a disc brake on the rear still.

  • @nikitakhutornyy3086
    @nikitakhutornyy3086 Před 7 lety

    The strings are very inviting to be cut through. Leave bike unattended - push it all the way home.

  • @dw6015
    @dw6015 Před 7 lety +1

    It's all fun and games till the string market collapses.

  • @itchymadness3960
    @itchymadness3960 Před 7 lety

    I can see my pants getting caught in that worse then a normal chain bike... RIP pants. You will be remembered.

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym Před 6 lety

    I can see a sentiment towards cyclic motion (the pedaling) which doesn't seem to be necessary (as the end of the video shows with the trike).
    Looks like a great concept, but how is it about:
    Efficiency (energy loss in string, internal spring etc.);
    Weight (in order to compare to conventional drive&gear systems);
    Longevity (ie amortization - which parts and how fast and how far they go. And how much would it cost to replace) - for example the hub's heavy duty springs, I guess they're taking the most load in form of deformation, and while designed for that I guess it does affect their life?

  • @McLoven-vm1ck
    @McLoven-vm1ck Před 7 lety +1

    It's interesting engineering but I have to agree with many here, why would I want one of these "String Bikes" rather then my conventional bicycle? There does not appear to be any real advantage to this design beyond perhaps being very quiet?

  • @FishCZ
    @FishCZ Před 7 lety

    Superheavy... First thing which came up my mind

  • @dimosk7389
    @dimosk7389 Před 7 lety

    So, you made a system that will only work with a bike that is already built for this system. That's sounds extremely expensive for the buyer.
    A system that looks more fragile than the chain system too.
    It looks smart, and it has the benefit of not making your pants dirty, but it basically solves a non existing problem

  • @joefussy11
    @joefussy11 Před 7 lety

    Brilliant concept.
    Is it lighter?
    Can it be simpler ?
    Whats the comparable ratios?
    Is it good for mtb?

  • @HomeDistiller
    @HomeDistiller Před 7 lety

    so its an alternating ratchet drive on each side of the hub with an involute drive at the crank? any mud in the crank drive would make the motion feel horrible and the ratchet at the back would wear but no where near as fast as the string once it got full of grit, and how you slip of the pedal and crash every time it breaks under heavy load

  • @Qui-9
    @Qui-9 Před 7 lety

    I'm curious how the shiftting mechanism moves easily while purposefully shifting, yet stays in place at the angles it swings. It's difficult to believe the detents offer both the freedom and security about these motions, unless they are over a small margin.

  • @NicolausNemeth
    @NicolausNemeth Před 7 lety

    I think this should be an obvious question, but why have you not added a compound pulley to the system? That would allow higher gearing with the same force = faster speed with same effort = actual improvement over standard chain drives... or am I missing something here?

  • @XGames-94
    @XGames-94 Před 7 lety

    Reinventing the wheel with less efficiency. Nothing wrong there.

  • @Gillysaurxx
    @Gillysaurxx Před 7 lety +6

    Cool idea until you park it outside and someone cuts your "chain"

    • @timithy4569
      @timithy4569 Před 7 lety

      Gillysaurxx You know it's not that hard to remove a chain. But I can see how 10 year olds might want to bully you because you dare to be different, and cut your chain just to rile you up. They's enjoy the novelty of cutting string because there nothing better to do with their lives.

    • @WittySage
      @WittySage Před 7 lety

      timithy4569 Nope, people do such things just for fun, especially because they don't have any other work to do

    • @StarsWithScars
      @StarsWithScars Před 4 lety

      And iv the chain is not cutted they stab the tires.. come on..

  • @nakedsphynxlake
    @nakedsphynxlake Před 7 lety

    I do like this idea and the trike is really cool .

  • @cottonbrad
    @cottonbrad Před 7 lety +1

    Pretty ingenious method of propulsion! I'm like how you have engineered the mechanisms. Probably very smooth and quiet. I do have some of the and questions posed below about durability and complications, but I'm all for seeing new methods! It's how progress is done!

    • @rmarbertin8131
      @rmarbertin8131 Před 2 lety

      Probably roller or sprag clutches in those reels.

  • @BelviGER
    @BelviGER Před 7 lety

    It's great that you won't have to deal with a dirty chain anymore. Just wait until the string gets dirty and you can deal with a dirty string.
    And I really hated how it took years for chains to break, but this string will do that in no time, especially if some dirt gets in there
    And that annoying thing about chains where there are teeth that grab the chain and reliably transmit power? Let's use friction instead because that's how it was done in the good old days of flat belts.

  • @MC-vv3uc
    @MC-vv3uc Před 7 lety +1

    Wait what was so wrong about the bikes we already have?

  • @Adamjen
    @Adamjen Před 7 lety +1

    More moving parts = greater risk of breakage
    Also, whats wrong with the regular chain/belt setup? Just because something is new and works doesn't make it a god invention.

  • @zelibober
    @zelibober Před 7 lety

    If you chage chain system than change rider position to more comfortable since you need to push pedals not spinning like classic bike.

  • @borthwey
    @borthwey Před 7 lety

    It has some advantages, but shifting is not one of them. Forget shifting. The ratio between the higher and the lower gear is just 2x. Like a 19-gear 11-22 cassette. So it's almost a single speed bike (which the brand also produces).

  • @sambeatty2312
    @sambeatty2312 Před 7 lety

    so you get to choose between week springs which cant keep up at high speed, or strong springs which give insane amounts of drag.
    also, their is no real way to oil the cams on the pedals which will wear out in a month or two.
    also, if you want reliability, just get belt drive.

  • @highdownmartin
    @highdownmartin Před 7 lety

    Novel idea. Can't see it knocking chain drive for 6 though. As somebody else pointed out the greasy bit just moves forward to by your feet

  • @Just_Randomi
    @Just_Randomi Před 7 lety

    Why have i never seen this till now, wow

  • @julius2538
    @julius2538 Před 7 lety

    Well, how does that improve anything at all? Does it bring any advantages with it?

  • @DR-br5gb
    @DR-br5gb Před 7 lety

    Is it cool? Yes. Is is reinventing the wheel? Yes.

  • @ThePikelg
    @ThePikelg Před 7 lety

    It looks cool but is it more efficient? Also the maintenance seem almost impossible from home... (For the string mechanism)

  • @lightdark00
    @lightdark00 Před 7 lety

    The whole question is, does the lever and pulls setup give more power to the wheels. I don't see how this could get a top speed of a big pedal gear and a small sprocket.

  • @peterpanda7506
    @peterpanda7506 Před 7 lety +1

    How much friction can they handle?

  • @guille21g_
    @guille21g_ Před 7 lety

    What is your goal with this system? And I'm not being sarcastic or asking to make fun or to bother.
    I really want to know in what was you thinking when you made that system? Apart from a more efficient transmission than the chain.

  • @GoodVibes-qs4iu
    @GoodVibes-qs4iu Před 6 lety

    Its fancy. I get it.
    In the chain system, it WYSIWYG. Whatever power you give to the pedal gets transferred to the hub.
    In the string system, does it give you extra force or something due to string tension..?
    Just trying to think positive about this approach..!

  • @asifhaque6108
    @asifhaque6108 Před 7 lety +1

    You have to cover those strings with some protective case. Otherwise some has been cut or burn those strings

    • @KillerRaptorr
      @KillerRaptorr Před 7 lety

      cut or burn? That's like saying same thing to do to your chain or belt. Anyone could break your chain off your bike easy with a chain break tool. But do people do it? no. They want the bike in whole or leave it. Common sense goes along way bud.

    • @mettle753
      @mettle753 Před 7 lety

      KillerRaptorr People stealing just someone's wheels is more common than you think. I had a friend who had both of the wheels on his bike stolen when the frame was chained up well.

  • @danielwarner7734
    @danielwarner7734 Před 7 lety

    Interesting mechanism but what's the point? I don't see any advantage. Weight of the chain is negated by all the other additional required parts. If anything it seems to be less energy efficient.

  • @Liquidazot
    @Liquidazot Před 9 lety +72

    pointles and to much complicated

    • @Spid88PL
      @Spid88PL Před 9 lety +5

      it only looks complicated, but mechanism is simple, especially the gear system fewer parts to malfunction, less maintenance

    • @Liquidazot
      @Liquidazot Před 9 lety +2

      Spid88PL
      in regular suspend, you have chain with incredible power and gears. Here you have 2 funny strings with less strenght than chain, if 1 will breake this is end. And this system on the support is so stupid. This strings are streching. This means they will catch lots of dirt, and fast loos their abilities. Comapring to old system string system is complicated. Better choice whould be to make drive shaft than this stupid strings.

    • @LaszloPalfi
      @LaszloPalfi Před 8 lety +4

      +Liquidazot Spring Drive is far more simple and more convinient than chain drive and gear shift mechanism ;-)
      Spring Drive
      - consits of less parts and more simple then chain drive as there is NO shifting mechanism on the back wheel,
      - offers the possibility of shifting while STANDING or while driving UPHILL
      - is cleaner because it uses NO grease on the outside,
      - offers smooth driving as there is NO micro vibration caused by the links,
      - offers immediate starting without the need of turning the pedal into horizontal position, because it automatically repositions the pedal into horizontal position when you take off your foot

    • @Big2009Gee
      @Big2009Gee Před 7 lety

      László Pálfi No !

    • @rayellis8351
      @rayellis8351 Před 7 lety +1

      How is this hard to wrap your head around it's actually quite simple 😂

  • @ifell3
    @ifell3 Před 7 lety

    There's not many ideas I think genius, to start with I was sceptical, but the idea is great. It's like all things could have the possibility to be a design fad or become the standard. I'm sure Shimano and the likes will make the market hard. It's going to end up being dubbed the yo-yo bike!!

  • @Sl1z3r
    @Sl1z3r Před 9 lety

    just a question... How did you solve the problem when it gets wet?

  • @AntalMadincea
    @AntalMadincea Před 7 lety

    A negative point that I see here: a part of the effort is lost to defeat the resistance of the spring that ensures the mechanism returns to the initial point. From this point of view it could be a more tiring bike than the classic ones.

  • @SuperCornjulio
    @SuperCornjulio Před 7 lety +1

    Inclined or rugged terrain. Can the rope handle the tensile strength required? A big NO.

  • @kempflar
    @kempflar Před 7 lety

    Interesting design . But i don't think it would withstand the forces generated going uphill or on a sprint. Also, someone could cut the string. Can not be replaced with some kind of steel wire?

  • @javableak
    @javableak Před 6 lety

    The music is amazing!! ;)

  • @NickBosshard
    @NickBosshard Před 7 lety

    The first step after having an idea should be thinking if it is any better than other available technologies. This step seems to have been skipped, as you don't gain anything other than a lot of big exposed moving parts.

  • @aky1313
    @aky1313 Před 7 lety

    Good idea as a school project, but how durable are those strings gonna be with normal use. Or when used on other than urban areas.

  • @kirilcavdarov965
    @kirilcavdarov965 Před 7 lety

    Why convert rotary motion to reciprocating and back to rotary? Was this just some exercise for a university? What about dirt grit and lack of owner care and understanding? Thanks for showing it and maybe consider designing a better shaft drive bike.

  • @SatyaRLenka
    @SatyaRLenka Před 7 lety +1

    Good thing is that you don't have to be pedalling for changing gears (or whatever that is called).