MacBook Air MIDNIGHT has a PROBLEM!

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • Midnight is the best colour. Don't buy it.
    I've talked about it before and people keep asking, so why is everyone so afraid of scratching the MacBook Air in Midnight, and is it justified?
    In this video we'll talk about everything from the anodising process, how the colour is added and how the design of the device makes a huge difference with this, vs Apple's other devices in the colour, as well as what you can do to mitigate the problem. So let's get geeky.
    In this video we'll cover:
    - How Apple's aluminium products are made
    - What is Anodising
    - How Apple's design affects durability of finishes
    - Specifics about the MacBook Air Design
    - Why Midnight is problematic
    - How to mitigate the issue
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    Apple have talked in depth in the past about how their Unibody MacBooks are made - and in case you're unaware, Apple's Unibody process is how MacBook shells bodies are milled from a block of Aluminium, rather than making layers like most PC makers which are thinner and don't produce such a rigid result.
    Apple machines the parts using huge numbers of CNC or Computer Numerically Controlled mills, cutting the holes for every key on the keyboard, mounting points for the logic boards, ports for your USB-C and MagSafe connections. CNC means that these can be milled to very exacting tolerances which contributes to the quality finish you see on Macs.
    Once those parts are machined, they will have visible marks from the tooling, so the next step is to bead blast the surface, basically firing very fine beads at the surface - more or less sand size, at high velocity to give the iconic finish which diffuses light that hits the surface and gives the matte finish.
    Then, we can anodise the part - this is the process which gives the finish, whether adding a colour or not.
    Sulphuric acid electrolyte is the liquid while passing an electric current through the liquid. Oxygen atoms are released from the electrolyte which combine with the aluminium forming an aluminium oxide coating - or what is essentially Aluminium rust.
    The process can consist of up to 5 steps, cleaning, etching, anodising, colouring and sealing.
    That cleaning step removes any grease or oils left over from the extrusion and machining processes in a bath of a strong alkali or acid liquid.
    Etching uses an acid bath to remove any surface imperfections, and then the material is rinsed for anodising.
    In the anodising tank, the anodic coating is created, as the electrical current is passed through the sulphuric acid bath. This can create enough heat that the acid bath itself has to be refrigerated. The immersion time is carefully monitored so the thickness of the finish is controlled. The parts are then rinsed with de-ionised water to ensure a uniform finish.
    Now the interesting part - colour. The Anodic coating has a porous surface, which can be dyed to the desired colour with the dyes leaching into the surface.
    This is then sealed with Nickel acetate which closes the pores and provides a durable surface.
    So anodising provides a very durable finish on aluminium devices. So what's the problem? Durability, like everything else is relative, and there are differences between how different anodised will show their wear.
    I'm sure this will become MidnightGate or ScratchGate or WearGate at some point for Apple, but this is no different from the finish on basically everything Apple has made in the past. Where the issue comes is the delta between the colour of the finish and the colour of the metal below.
    I think there's a good reason that for many years, Apple's aluminium devices were Silver, and only silver. To keep them looking as new as possible. For example, here's a 2011 MacBook Air that I used as a full time system until at least 2018, when my wife started using it as hers. Anything beyond a close examination and this looks pretty new, because any scratches, even deeper gouges, just reveal the same silver that the surface finish is.
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Komentáře • 276

  • @luisdaumas
    @luisdaumas Před 2 lety +16

    Excellent video Dave! The quality of the presentations, image, edition, and all technical aspects have noticeably improved. Hope soon the YT algorithms give you the recognition you deserve! 👍

  • @nextInsiders
    @nextInsiders Před 2 lety +3

    I have been using cases on macbooks ever since i got those white spots on my lcd even tho it was in laptop pocket. Cases keep chances of it happening to minimum. As for scraching, visiting demo units locally, all of the port and handrest area are already starting to show wear. So spot on with predictions.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I'm not sure how much they protect from the white spots, more just from scratches I'd expect.

  • @Jack-la
    @Jack-la Před rokem +2

    One of the most useful videos I've found for my M2 purchase! Keep making content like this

  • @ryanvacation7319
    @ryanvacation7319 Před 2 lety +5

    I totally agree with the snap on cases. Plus the small tabs on certain cases may scuff the finish too.

  • @hay_bail1
    @hay_bail1 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! I think you brought lots of well informed and new information to the MacBook Air m2 topic.

  • @DukeOfKidderminster
    @DukeOfKidderminster Před 2 lety +3

    My 2017 MBP hasn’t suffered at all, although it is my secondary computer (and I do keep it in a clear shell- sorry Dave). I’m interested to see whether a MacBook will be released and what colours that would come in.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I hope we get a MacBook, and if we do, colours will depend on price. If its super cheap, probably silver and space grey, if its midrange, probably more

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa Před 2 lety +2

    I bought a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 in 2018 as a backup machine to my 2014 which I used for work. I got a great price and it had two corner drops, scratches all over the bottom, a gouge on the side and the top screen section isn't completely aligned with the bottom part of the laptop. But it has served me well for over four years. At some level of damage, you don't care. On the other hand, my 2014 is still pristine. I take excellent care of my Macs doing the kinds of things recommended in this video.

    • @movdqa
      @movdqa Před 2 lety

      You weren't kidding about CZcams processing time. Is that a general issue on Mondays? Perhaps there's just far more content posted on Monday mornings than on the weekend.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      It's very dependent on the video and the timing. I think.

  • @tora201jp
    @tora201jp Před 2 lety +3

    Bro you have come a long way. This channel simply must blow up with quality like this! Come on YT algorithm!

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks so much! Shares always appreciated!

  • @willf5048
    @willf5048 Před 2 lety +2

    Would you say it would be harder to see scuff and scratch’s on the starlight model as well?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, just like with the iPhone 6 mentioned in the video, the closer the colour is to the raw metal, the less noticeable they’ll be 👍

  • @lelexyyy
    @lelexyyy Před 2 lety +1

    What about a clear matte MBA skin ? For example from slickwraps? Do you think that it would still insulate and keep the heat in?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      I’m down with Skins actually, but I wouldn’t buy from slickwraps. They never delivered my order and ignored every email I sent to try to resolve it.

  • @---tx9xx
    @---tx9xx Před rokem

    I would like the midnight, but I often have to work with the laptop outside in direct sunlight and concerned about that color absorbing too much heat, causing the computer ot overheat/kernel panic (which happens with my current macbook) or too hot to the touch so considering going with the silver instead, what do you think about this idea of the midnight black absorbing more heat in the sun? Is this not relavnt?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      I would say its unlikely to be an issue, especially in normal usage (assuming you're not running massive simulations or transcoding 8K raw video outdoors all day) I've never noticed any heat from the system even when rendering video files.

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave Thanks! I don't know why, but my macbook retina 12" 2017, after I 'upgraded' to Monterey, started overheating and going into kernel panic loops that essentially made it unusable if I open more than a few tabs at once, wary of this issue happening again.

  • @MrWh4327782
    @MrWh4327782 Před rokem +2

    the most important reason for me to always go for sliver is that sliver is just last. It is looks still new after a good cleaning.🤣

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Yep, even my 2011 MacBook Air still looks pretty new!

  • @teamkinetixmedia
    @teamkinetixmedia Před 2 lety +1

    Great show today. Loved the vibe and personality 👍

  • @kenpurchase819
    @kenpurchase819 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video subed because of it,Thanks for the explaination and your thoughts

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks so much, may make a follow up, I've been using it since release and it's still looking great - a couple of wear points but nothing crazy. They did a good job with the coating

  • @davidhamilton82
    @davidhamilton82 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant video. You are speaking my language and so informative. Despite the issues with this colour I think I will still go for it 😊

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      I did and I don't regret it at all! :)

  • @Xandu6a
    @Xandu6a Před rokem +1

    Great video! Loved the detail, helps a lot :) One small feedback: adjust colors in your studio, it’s a bit weird since part of your face looks purple.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Thanks! The studio (cupboard) lighting changes often, I think we're fixed on that now!

  • @alanbenham4139
    @alanbenham4139 Před rokem

    Super informative video. Thank you.

  • @RenLacerda
    @RenLacerda Před rokem +1

    There are also palm rest skins that are the exact same midnight blue. It can protect the area we rest our hands at.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      That's good, would be interested to see how the finish looks.

  • @shankee30
    @shankee30 Před rokem

    After it's saturated with finger juices, is it possible to clean it to bring it back to it's original? What solutions can we use to clean it?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +2

      Cloth with a little water. nothing else needed.

  • @pro_raznoe
    @pro_raznoe Před 2 lety

    Will starlight color be similar to wear like midnight color?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      All the finishes will be equally durable, its just that when you wear the colours that are more similar to the base metal colour, its way less noticeable

  • @VegasGuy1975
    @VegasGuy1975 Před 2 lety +5

    Interesting review Dave. One area of interest for me is the idea of not using a case.
    I personally use a clear case specifically because I want to protect the finish of my MBP and also because I do like that it allows the original finish color to stand out.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Any case like that will also impede heat dissipation, but if you're not pushing it hard, go ahead. I personally just think they're all super ugly!

    • @VegasGuy1975
      @VegasGuy1975 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iCaveDave I would be interested in seeing some sort of experiment/test ran to see if these cases actually do impede any heat dissipation. I’ve ran a case on my MBP for awhile now and have never had any issue. So I would guess that the same would hold true of a case on the new MBA. It would be very interesting to see if I am correct, or if the cases really do create an unintended consequence with the heat issue.

    • @emmalawson1504
      @emmalawson1504 Před rokem +1

      I bought my first MacBook in 2015, always had a case, my 2017 case had a thicker top (didn’t realise until I got it but I loved it. I’ve had no issues with heat dissipation at all, and I use mine for study and personal work, I also use it to help others put letters and evidence together for civil and other legal cases so they’ve all been used a lot! Just got my midnight air 2 weeks ago. Clear case, screen protector, transparent touchpad and palm rest protection covers 🤷🏻‍♀️ same I’ve always done for my macs (my 2915 was stolen so I bought a 2017, just got my midnight.
      The only difference is that my touchpad and palm rest protectors were silver, and I had a patterned/coloured cases.
      I factory reset and set up my 2017 air and gave it to a good friend, as her 2010 MacBook is done for! And she too used hers heavily but it’s finally met it’s end.

    • @VegasGuy1975
      @VegasGuy1975 Před rokem

      @@emmalawson1504 fantastic. I ended up going to the 16” Pro and am on the fence if I will custom design another case, go with a clear one, or just get a premade patterned one.
      But your post has me leaning towards maybe find one premade and roll with it.
      Now to decide what to do with my old 13” M1 MBP (that felt so weird to type “old” and “M1” in the same sentence. 😂

  • @christiankinyon2112
    @christiankinyon2112 Před rokem

    There are some crystal clear cases on Amazon I was considering ordering one so I can put stickers in between so I don’t actually have to stick stickers to the device. Should I get one still 🤔🤔

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      The issue even with clear cases is that it reduces airflow so you may have worse thermal performance - stickers or skins should be absolutely fine though on the laptop itself

    • @christiankinyon2112
      @christiankinyon2112 Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave there just really nice stickers and I don’t want to actually stick them on the laptop 😅 I might only use the top piece of the case so it doesn’t affect thermal at all.

  • @cebukitty
    @cebukitty Před 28 dny

    You were spot on. My MacBook Air m2 in midnight blue showed a very noticeable paint chipping on the right corner. The silver is showing through the midnight blue. Didn't drop it, I use a case every day, but I guess it bumped into something. I'm using a black sharpie to hide it. It still rubs off, but at least it's not as noticeable anymore.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 27 dny

      Yeah mine has some anno-rub around the bottom left corner from my watch strap - but I have to say in general the finish has held up better than I expected!

  • @ed-od9sd
    @ed-od9sd Před 2 lety

    my current 2012 silver which shows scratch signs around the USB port.
    Midnight which I just preordered I don't think id mind the scratches and smudges so long as it does show on the screen

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      That's it, these things are tools, not ornaments

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 Před 2 lety +7

    Great deep dive Dave! Recent subscriber - glad I found the channel. I personally went for Starlight, I like the Air as close to gold as I can get and so far it seems pretty immaculate. For anyone who wants a colour that does't show ware but looks good, I'd strongly recommend Starlight

  • @someoneshappyness
    @someoneshappyness Před rokem +1

    Omg! Imagine a midnight black but with red-ish not blue- ish😳 that would look so cool

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      Yeah okay I need that. I'd sell Midnight for that.

  • @tobiask8490
    @tobiask8490 Před 4 měsíci

    the best video on this topic I found so far. Thank you! It helps me to decide on colour choice. It would be great, if you could make a scratch test!

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I mean, I’ve had it close to 2 years now, in day to day there are zero noticeable scratches, however as I predicted, there is some colour wear visible on the bottom left corner where my Apple Watch is, but I would also say it’s looking very new still for a 2 year old laptop

    • @tobiask8490
      @tobiask8490 Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks @@iCaveDave for reply! I still think a scratch test would be interresting, just to see how sensitive the colour is and what to expect over years of use. But I understand it would be a costly test to make 😬

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @tobiask8490 I always reply 😉

  • @chevystingray
    @chevystingray Před 2 lety +6

    clicked not expecting to learn quite a lot about how MacBooks shells are made...niice

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Hopefully you found it relevant to the topic though! Hope I didn’t waste your time!

    • @chevystingray
      @chevystingray Před 2 lety +1

      @@iCaveDave not a waste of my time at all. well detailed, prepared and thought through.

  • @khadijamohamed8132
    @khadijamohamed8132 Před rokem

    Davee! I just got my first MacBook today and got this specific colour because of all the reasons you pointed out. I just came across your account and mann, I just love your humor, keep doing what you do. I’m just gonna rewatch this just to appreciate those satirical points.
    I don’t wanna cover it up!!! I hope apple continues to cover this up
    So how do I clean out the fingerprint smudges?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Super glad you went for it, you’re gonna love it! Just a slightly damp microfibre cloth should do the job perfectly! 👌

  • @Coolio157
    @Coolio157 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video. Subscribed. I was getting the blue one and got a silver instead but immediately regretted it. I'm going back and getting a blue one. Looks much better. Worth the risk.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Brian and glad I could help!

    • @BalkanHunk
      @BalkanHunk Před 2 lety +1

      Any update on the midnight? I’m on the fence now too between space grey and midnight

    • @johncena6701
      @johncena6701 Před rokem

      Lmao who cares

  • @LittleMountainLife
    @LittleMountainLife Před 2 lety +4

    I personally buy my phones and laptops for the utility and software inside so I always put uber protective cases on all of them. Helps keep the resale value as high as possible if the devices looks good as new without scratches or dings 2-3 years later.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      That's fair, if you're reselling I get it!

  • @aveerajsharma
    @aveerajsharma Před 3 měsíci

    Hey, can you please send the link of the wallpaper you've got on your mac? Thanks😉

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 3 měsíci

      It’s from the James Webb telescope gallery on NASA’s website. Link in next reply in case CZcams blocks the comment

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 3 měsíci

      www.flickr.com/photos/nasawebbtelescope/albums/72177720300469752/

  • @KaushikReddy1106
    @KaushikReddy1106 Před 2 lety

    Which colour to buy then for MacBook Air m2?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      I Still love midnight. Just depends how OCD you'd be - go Silver if it would bother you.

  • @paulb9453
    @paulb9453 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ha ha, I’m so getting a shell case, my laptop goes through airport security too many times, and so will get hit by straps and belts. I’m not into showing off my equipment 😂

  • @iamorcun
    @iamorcun Před 2 lety

    hey Dave! just wanted to leave a comment for the part you mentioned that people mostly watch you from the usa, greetings from europe! loved your vid, i was so sure about the midnight one until i watch your vid because i did not mind the fingerprints but the scratches part... i think i am going to get a space gray for a safe shot! haha

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Hey OG from Europe! Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated, hope you love it in Space Grey :)

  • @HD-kb1pg
    @HD-kb1pg Před 2 lety +1

    Buy the one with best availability. I have noticed that midnight is the default color at the apple store and has the longest delay to ship or pick up at the store. Currently space gray has the shortest delay. All depending on configuration choices of course. I ordered starlight which also had good availability. I might get a clear acrylic clamshell so roast me for that.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Best availability... or what you like most!

  • @peanut_butter_falcon
    @peanut_butter_falcon Před rokem

    Thank you for this great review!
    I usually run CZcams and Twitch at the same time (sometimes a couple of each) along with some other basic web browser pages (news, sports, poker etc). I also play Football Manager and watch Netflix, Amazon Prime and Sky Go. I assume this laptop will be fine for that without overheating?
    I currently have a £1,000 HP laptop but am considering returning it as the battery is so poor (3-4 hours with very basic use) and it has a touch screen I don't use. Although it's very nice it's not as sleek or sexy as this M2 Macbook Air (I also love this Midnight Blue colour and it will match my iPhone 13 mini nicely).

  • @anshulraman404
    @anshulraman404 Před 2 lety

    Soo,i am a 8th grader, i was thinking of buying the M2 macbook Air,is it really worth the price or should i go for Macbook M1 Air or a MBP M2,If i should go for a M2 Macbook Air which colour should i go for,i actually wanted the Midnight version but what do you suggest Dave and others?

    • @andreas6155
      @andreas6155 Před 2 lety

      M2 Silver 512gb. Good computer for many years

    • @anshulraman404
      @anshulraman404 Před 2 lety

      @@andreas6155 Thank you sure!

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      If you have the budget, go M2, If not, M1 will serve you fine. Go air either way, the Pro was never a good base model

  • @VulgarTruth
    @VulgarTruth Před 3 měsíci

    Hey, I want a new macbook. Is MacBook Air (M2, 2022) 13.6 inch with 8-Core CPU and 8-Core GPU, 256GB SSD - Midnight 8gb memory
    £999
    Is it ok for automatic 1111 stable diffusion? Is it a good price?
    Cheers

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've not done a lot of AI image generation personally but the system itself in general is solid. I'd probably reccomend getting the $100 GPU upgrade as AI would hit that more, but at that point getting the M3 version is probably the better choice.

  • @DNdavidsonsnation
    @DNdavidsonsnation Před rokem

    but why they don't paint it with something like YETI does on their drinkware? I have a tumbler from them that went through it all and it still look very decent for something i don't take care of so i imagine that a computer used with care should do very very well with that kind of paint on it

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Because it’s not painted, it’s anodised.

  • @user-zo2pc5lu5q
    @user-zo2pc5lu5q Před 2 lety +4

    I have always gone for silver, not because of worrying about scratches, but that's the colour I like. As for cases I've always put a UAG case on everything. They still allow you to see the beauty of the Apple item, but give it that extra protection for people that take their products into the wider world and I don't mean an air conditioned office. If I hadn't protected my Apple products I would have needed at the very least new screens or a completely new unit. I have gotten through umpteen screen protectors and even worn out an iPad case, but hey if you don't work in those kinds of environments then you don't need to waste your money on them.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Absolutely. I just don't like cases :)

  • @williebcool
    @williebcool Před 2 lety

    Do you have a link to cosmos Wallpaper on your monitor?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Yep, first article on iCaveDave.com :)

  • @bill3117
    @bill3117 Před 2 lety +5

    Wow! Thanks for the warning. I never would have considered this otherwise. I guess I'd get the silver model, and slap a blue cover on it ;) Ha, I just saw your comment on not covering it with a shell ;)

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +2

      The other thing with shells is they add an insulating layer that will stop the MacBook dissipating heat as quickly as they should.

  • @levii_i678
    @levii_i678 Před měsícem

    Do you recommend using a screen protector on the MacBook?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před měsícem

      Absolutely not. You don't keep it in your pocket, and there's no reason to be touching the display. Some screen protectors are also thick enough that they can apply pressure to the display when it's closed, causing stress fractures to the display. Steer clear of them, and especially camera covers and keyboard covers.

    • @levii_i678
      @levii_i678 Před měsícem

      @@iCaveDave I see..
      Well, I have been using a screen protector on my 2015 MacBook pro for almost 9 years without any problems or damages...
      I use a very simple thin screen protector, though

  • @hassanhaider3689
    @hassanhaider3689 Před 2 lety

    curious if anyone is experiencing scuffs at the pointy cutout corners Dave mentions in the video or other places?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I haven't seen any reports yet but I doubt it would take long

  • @EsKyx1
    @EsKyx1 Před rokem +1

    I have a msi gs70 crimson red, which is also aluminium, as my secondary machine since 2014. It looks new, only some chippings around headphone jacks. If msi could do it in 2014, Apple should be able to do it in 2022.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      They can, it will be about the same

  • @Dedicated2WendyWilliams
    @Dedicated2WendyWilliams Před 2 lety +1

    But wont the space grey scratch just as much? The only non visible scratch would be the silver one

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      They will, but as mentioned in the video, the scratches will be much better hidden as its a slightly brighter silver on a slightly darker silver as opposed to a dark blue.

    • @Dedicated2WendyWilliams
      @Dedicated2WendyWilliams Před 2 lety

      @@iCaveDave oh yea i see what u mean, dam ive only ever had the silver macbooks and i wanted a change with the midnight color.. i guess ill put a skin on it or something

  • @christineanderson3493
    @christineanderson3493 Před 2 lety

    Do you feel clear cases with ventilation holes are still something you’d recommend against?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Personally yes, especially in something like the MacBook Air where heat dissipation is radiative as opposed to being vented by a fan. You need the metal casing exposed to the air as much as possible.

    • @christineanderson3493
      @christineanderson3493 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iCaveDave thank you for your reply. It’s much appreciated. I’m now rethinking and will likely cancel my preorder on a clear hard case. I want to protect it but still show the color. This will be my first Apple computer, so I’m a newbie with these. I appreciate any advice and tips. I just subscribed to your channel!

  • @e_burg3ss287
    @e_burg3ss287 Před 2 lety

    Dave my new favourite quote from you is “it keeps it away from your keys, your knives, your firearms” my reaction was key, knives okay, wait- knives? Odd. Firearms, FIREARMS WAIT WHAT

  •  Před rokem

    Just curious if Razer’s laptops have suffered in the same way, since they are also using milled aluminium, as far as I am aware.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      Yes, and from a quick google search it seems way worse on them.

  • @linkai101
    @linkai101 Před 2 lety +1

    what about clear cases

  • @Chris-nv1do
    @Chris-nv1do Před 2 lety

    Great vid

  • @mdarks4117
    @mdarks4117 Před rokem

    To be honest, clear cases don’t protect the rear frame & port. There are port protection films online. when I saw midnight in store, there were serious signs of wear on the type c ports & worse on the mag safe port. Also hundreds of hands have handle the items too

  • @hummersd
    @hummersd Před 2 lety

    I brought this up as a comment on CZcamsrs that went to WWDC as some of the footage did show wear on the USB-C ports already and people responded that they were probably tested a lot… but how much was it tested/used before wearing down to show the metal color underneath? One CZcamsr that received their new MBA said it wearing after only a few times plugging things in and out! Sheesh - that’s not good, but also, I get it, nobody is going to judge you based on the wear of your USB-C port, lol. I do like the idea of using a dongle dock to reduce how many times you plug in and out. I’ll definitely be as careful as I can plugging it in and out; unlike iMac where I used to try and guess!

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Yeah at least you can see these ports!

  • @unapologeticOne
    @unapologeticOne Před 2 lety

    So is this basically the Jet Black iPhone of MacBooks? Lol. Loved that colour but heard it was a scratch magnet. Never actually saw pictures of it but I didn’t take a chance on it lol.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I had that jet black 7 plus - my nephew now has it. Because it was glossy black, it showed micro scratches, whereas this will be more of a light colour showing through a dark matte finish where it gets worn. But yeah. And, that iPhone in Jet Black was also awesome, just like this.

  • @marcinkowalczyk647
    @marcinkowalczyk647 Před 2 lety

    @icavedave still too blue for my liking with the lighting - sorry :( is it just for the m2 laptop videos? otherwise than the light - great video

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Lol just trying stuff out :) We can go more vanilla for you!

  • @alensukaj4226
    @alensukaj4226 Před 2 lety

    What about some kind of sticker around the usb c ports?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Not a bad shout if you can align them well

    • @alensukaj4226
      @alensukaj4226 Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave true but maybe companies like dbrandz or others will make some solution. Like small see through sticker and kind of alignment tool to stick it

  • @tonyburzio4107
    @tonyburzio4107 Před 2 lety

    Get an anodize touch up kit from Caswell, used for flashlights.

    • @tonyburzio4107
      @tonyburzio4107 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/T7X_w8BWLIo/video.html

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Yeah it's probably still not going to look great

  • @25sazzadhossain73
    @25sazzadhossain73 Před 2 lety

    So considering this
    Should i go for starlight??

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I don't think its a bad choice if you like that colour :)

  • @sathirawijekoon4296
    @sathirawijekoon4296 Před 7 měsíci

    Bro what’s best color of MacBook Air m2?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Depends how a)careful you are and b) how much you care about light scratches. I'd still buy the midnight again, but if you want something that will look new for longer, silver is the safest

  • @Cicton
    @Cicton Před 2 lety

    I have that shirt too. I think we got them as a gift along with a giant poster with our names making up the apple logo

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I picked mine up from eBay, so probably from someone who's name is on there!

  • @Pokemonscarlet18
    @Pokemonscarlet18 Před 2 lety

    #icaveanswers will we ever get a mind right green or midnight red MacBooks ever?? that alone would make me buy one

  • @buddypage11
    @buddypage11 Před 2 lety

    They sell anti-fingerprint cleansers and coatings for glass and other surfaces. Wonder if it is safe and effective on colored aluminum surfaces.

    • @sergeyd2199
      @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety +1

      Who want to clean it every 10 minutes? That's definitely not a solution.

    • @shinigami1925
      @shinigami1925 Před 2 lety

      Yes- Renaissance Wax is a great treatment for hard goods and prevents fingerprints from sticking to the surfaces. It works great on anodized items (particularly good on firearms bluing) and also provides a tiny bit of extra scuff protection (within reason)

    • @buddypage11
      @buddypage11 Před 2 lety

      @@sergeyd2199 Agreed. An anti-fingerprint cleanser that would remove and then prevent them would be best. Already similar products out there for other surfaces, so worth a try.

    • @sergeyd2199
      @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety +1

      @@buddypage11 Nah, they need to select better materials. I have a Logitech keyboard, and while it will become somewhat dirty if you don’t clean it for a week or two, you don’t need to clean it every 10 minutes. So they managed to find a proper material - why can’t Apple do the same?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      You mean plastic? Because Apple’s huge deal is not using any BPA and making everything recyclable and sustainable.

  • @blakesanchez376
    @blakesanchez376 Před 2 lety

    lol...most people who carry a firearm in the US do it with an inside the waistbelt holster (which requires a concealed carry permit easily obtained in most states). I seen some bumbag products developed for carrying but carrying a loaded weapon with out securing it seems like a bad idea. Not to say some people don't do it but the generally accepted practice is to carry in a holster or a bag specially designed to secure the firearm while also keeping it accessible for self protection.

    • @ProtectusCZ
      @ProtectusCZ Před 2 lety

      Wow I didn't know MacBook is related to gun.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I know I know, I was making a joke about what could scratch up your Mac.

  • @endeavour_the_scene
    @endeavour_the_scene Před 8 měsíci

    @icavedave How’s it looking now? In need of an update I’ve just ordered one and I’m worried!

  • @nakornleelahakunakorn7483

    What about clear skin? Would that help?

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Probably the best option if you must cover it up!

  • @Unmployable
    @Unmployable Před rokem +1

    Man the space gray is the absolute goat. It is timeless and gorgeous

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +2

      It’s number 2 to the Midnight for me.

    • @Unmployable
      @Unmployable Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave not even close

  • @BrianWechtenhiser
    @BrianWechtenhiser Před 2 lety +5

    You can buy USB-C port savers that you leave permanently attached to your MscBook. These reduce wear and tear on your ports and chassis.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Interesting, not heard of those!

    • @christineanderson3493
      @christineanderson3493 Před 2 lety

      Do you happen to have a link to any of these? I ordered the MacBook M2 in midnight which will be my first ever Mac computer, so these ports are new for me.

    • @NightVulin
      @NightVulin Před 2 lety

      @@christineanderson3493 just look up usb c port savers for Mac

    • @christineanderson3493
      @christineanderson3493 Před 2 lety

      @@NightVulin I did. I found little. It was just regular adapters that keep showing.

    • @BrianWechtenhiser
      @BrianWechtenhiser Před 2 lety +2

      @@christineanderson3493 Search for USB C extender adapters from Afterplug.

  • @brandonl9286
    @brandonl9286 Před 2 lety +1

    9:40 Why not buy a clear shell or clear case? They still show the awesome color but protect from wear. I use a clear case on me Sierra Blue phone. I can see the awesome color and your cheap hard case will take the wear. It might also help to ease the rounded edges as well. If I were to buy a new Air, i would buy the midnight color. Can we get that color on the MacBook Pro/Mac Studio?
    10:19 We Americans don’t all keep firearms in our backpack we wear usually hide them under our clothes somewhere.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Why not use a clear case? Because they also insulate and keep heat in, so they hurt performance. And also look terrible.

    • @makeuplife0615
      @makeuplife0615 Před rokem

      I agree, if I’m gonna buy a laptop that’s almost $2,000 then I’m gonna buy a case 😂 it’ll prolong the looks of the laptop

  • @SilverWave64
    @SilverWave64 Před 2 lety +1

    Why do all dark colours from Apple always have a problem? I remember the dark iPhone 5, dark iPhone 7, etc. They all had problems with scratches, etc.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +2

      It’s nothing to do with Apple, it’s just that when a dark colour scratches and shows the silver beneath, it stands out. When you scratch a silver MacBook, it’s still silver.

    • @SilverWave64
      @SilverWave64 Před 2 lety

      @@iCaveDave I’m just wondering because my car is made of alu as well and doesn’t lose paint just because I smash the door when closing, etc.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      But apple devices aren’t painted, they’re anodised. It doesn’t lose a coating, the top layer of metal is chipped off. Also, your car is probably steel,

    • @SilverWave64
      @SilverWave64 Před 2 lety

      @@iCaveDave Nope, it has an aluminium frame.

  • @marcinkowalczyk647
    @marcinkowalczyk647 Před 2 lety

    james webb a LITTLE too distracting for home screen on the phone but LOCK SCREEN oh man the clouds - thats the ticket - also on desktop!

  • @jamesapple2
    @jamesapple2 Před 2 lety

    What are your thoughts with Apple Arcade games leaving the platform? #icaveaanswers

  • @Evan_Rodgers
    @Evan_Rodgers Před rokem

    Oy! #icaveanswers can you do a 12 month review of performance and durability of that midnight colorware?

  • @sergeyd2199
    @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety +3

    That's ridiculous! I had golden M1 air, and large part of a reason I sold it - it was a fingerprint magnet, especially keyboard. That's just gross. I don't really understand why Apple uses such idiotic approach. I've never seen worse laptops in terms of maintaining the clean and beautiful.

    • @sergeyd2199
      @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety

      Large, but not primary :) The main reason was Macos - window management is plain terrible.

    • @techinrl9869
      @techinrl9869 Před 2 lety

      I carried a jet black/piano black iPhone 7 for a year and it was still pristine after that year without a case (it’s criminal to hide that in a case). I traded it in for an iPhone X the next year, but that piano black was awesome. Sure it was a fingerprint and scratch magnet, but looking at mine, you needed a magnifying glass to see any micro scratches. Take care of your device and it’ll be fine.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Yep! I had the jet black 7 plus!

    • @sergeyd2199
      @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety +1

      @@techinrl9869 for a phone - it’s not that critical. All phones screens get fingerprinted anyways. But I don’t tolerate that for keyboards and laptops

  • @edendyson7407
    @edendyson7407 Před 2 lety +1

    i died at "and we all know that space grey is the boy colour" hahahaha

  • @mitchellhorner3316
    @mitchellhorner3316 Před 2 lety

    I appreciate your insight and information on how the midnight color can be kept looking crisp longer. 🤓

  • @TheProsirius
    @TheProsirius Před rokem

    clear and accurate.
    so i am here to like and subscribe and 4 the Algorithm.
    Thank you Dave

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      Thanks very much! I have to say having owned it since launch (almost 6 months) it's in incredibly good shape, no visible issues so I'm really happy!

    • @TheProsirius
      @TheProsirius Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave one of the strongest packs apple made as consumer Macbook.
      It catches near at a pro. and this stunning batterie time and how good the keys are, made me smile every time I use this beauty. (coming from 6 years butterfly keys, I did not like them)
      The older books get lovely keys as well, the new one feel like them, even better.
      Thank you Dave

  • @jamesapple2
    @jamesapple2 Před 2 lety +1

    If I want a space gray or silver then I buy a 14 inch MacBook Pro for the trouble

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      I mean yeah, but only if you need that performance and have the budget.

  • @Unmployable
    @Unmployable Před rokem +1

    No way I’m going without a case. Never. Ever. If you still want the color get a frosted case. They look sick and won’t piss you off when you drop it and ruin it forever. Cases are essential.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Weird that I managed without a case on my MacBook Air for a decade then if it’s essential.

    • @Unmployable
      @Unmployable Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave I’d like to see it

    • @tgr5588
      @tgr5588 Před rokem

      I treat my MacBook how I treat tools. If it scratches no big deal, I use it for work and media, it’s a working laptop. It’s already got plenty of scratches on the outside, one corner is a bit dented and one side has a piece chipped off. Ports are scratched from cables being plugged in and out. And I like it this way. But that’s a personal preference of course

  • @peanut_butter_falcon
    @peanut_butter_falcon Před rokem

    Stupid question of the day... Will this Midnight laptop match my midnight iphone 13 mini?

  • @joemahma3457
    @joemahma3457 Před 2 lety +1

    #IcaveAnswers Who are your top 3 favorite dart players?!? Past or Present 😎🎯

  • @Panslapper
    @Panslapper Před 11 měsíci

    I wouldn’t rule out Barbie pink either…just ordered the midnight blue and looking forward to getting over it….scratches, meh.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 11 měsíci

      I WISH Apple would make some bolder colours...

    • @Panslapper
      @Panslapper Před 11 měsíci

      @@iCaveDave Yes Dave, I have never really been a fan of pastilles in or on anything. I have the Midnight Blue arriving in a day or so. The clear version of the Tech 21 Evo case looked like a worthy purchase but I could never really settle with a case on my previous Macbooks. This Air is what it is and I am happy to just to work with it as it is. I might buy a nice soft sleeve though…

  • @prscheownr
    @prscheownr Před rokem +2

    I'll wait until Apple fixes the cheap coating on their new laptops. I usually replace them every 2-3 years, but not now. Just like the lack of a cheap gasket to prevent water damage when exposed to water, Apple has found it best to cheapen the finish on its computers to allow for scratches which inevitably encourages its buyers to buy new products every few months to a year. I noticed scratches on ALL of the store models of the "new" MacBook Air. Hard to believe just a week or so after the latest introduction, but that's where Tim Cook has taken it. Steve Jobs would not have approved.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      Laptops with IO, keyboards and speaker holes are almost impossible to waterproof, let alone those with cooling fans. Difficult to have airflow without allowing water in. And all aluminium laptops will scratch and wear, they always have. The difference is when the anodised surface is anything but natural aluminium covered, scratches are more noticeable. If you don’t want to see them, buy the standard silver!

    • @danielrice5474
      @danielrice5474 Před 8 měsíci

      @@iCaveDaveI agree on ones with fans. But the M2 Air has no fans. I personally think it can be water proof and would be awesome if they do it.

  • @marcinkowalczyk647
    @marcinkowalczyk647 Před 2 lety

    @icavedave nice touch with the james webb wallpaper ! me likes !

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks - you can download them in the right sizes at iCaveDave.com

  • @Panslapper
    @Panslapper Před 11 měsíci

    I think the one of the worse places to live is not Rotherham UK (but its close) but in the angst of trying to maintain perishable goods! It’s a vanity.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I'm fine with marks, this thing is a tool for me, not a fashion accessory.

    • @Panslapper
      @Panslapper Před 11 měsíci

      @@iCaveDaveI dont care too much either but I still have to be careful where my need for purity might be directed towards, certainly should not be man made products, those kind of desires usually end in war or at least tears. Informative video, thankyou.

  • @jeffshaw3595
    @jeffshaw3595 Před 2 lety +1

    Midnight is the "colour" that I ordered.

  • @petegraham4969
    @petegraham4969 Před rokem +1

    Midnight it is then!

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      Several months on I'm still seeing zero scratches, so the quality of the finish has been very durable.

  • @micahgrauel8770
    @micahgrauel8770 Před rokem +1

    So, I came home after eating dinner a couple nights ago and walked into my room. I had my laptop on my bed with my iPod touch plugged into it. My leg got caught on the cable that was plugged in and yanked it out. That was enough to scratch the first USBC port on the machine. I am taking it into the Apple store later today. They had better be able to fix it. the weak design of the ports on the M2 is not acceptable at all. An almost $2000 laptop should never be scratched that easily. If Apple products were made here in America? we would not be having these problems. Tim Cook needs to be forced out of apple now before the company completely collapses. I’m back from the future. It turns out the port is not scratched, but when I pulled the cable out, it warped the metal outside of it. Cables can still plug into it, but I’m going to get it fixed, even though it means replacing the whole top case.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem

      That's (a) a pretty extreme reaction, (b) why were you USB charging instead of using MagSafe which is designed to come away easily if you snag or trip on the cable. Scratches are wear and tear, so I doubt you're covered. Also Tim is a genius in business terms, he's never getting forced out.

    • @micahgrauel8770
      @micahgrauel8770 Před rokem

      @@iCaveDave as I stated, the cable that I was charging my iPod with got pulled out of the computer. The connector then brushed up against the port, and scratched it.

    • @micahgrauel8770
      @micahgrauel8770 Před rokem

      here's an update. My laptop is now fixed. I payed $100 for Apple to replace the top case of the laptop. I am very happy I have Apple care.

  • @quixomega
    @quixomega Před 2 lety

    You can always stick a skin on it in 5 years if it gets scratched up.

  • @jamesfiegel9675
    @jamesfiegel9675 Před rokem

    Cases on iPones make more sense u drop ur phone all the time😜

  • @AbdulMananCh
    @AbdulMananCh Před 10 měsíci

    Not even the outside, even the screen is easily scratched

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 10 měsíci

      I have zero scratches on my screen. You cleaning it with a Brillo pad?

    • @AbdulMananCh
      @AbdulMananCh Před 10 měsíci

      Hahah
      No, I cleaned it with a regular paper towel and hairline scratches are visible for the 15" M2.
      which is weird because my MacBook Pro from 2017 never had that issue.
      Anyways I did ordered the Apple's polish cloth, maybe that will be good for the sensitive screen of 15'' M2 @@iCaveDave

    • @AbdulMananCh
      @AbdulMananCh Před 10 měsíci

      It is arriving tomorrow, I'll upload a video.

  • @andresolis8335
    @andresolis8335 Před 2 lety

    And i just purchased the midnight

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Well done, its the best colour :)

  • @cupofkona
    @cupofkona Před 2 lety +3

    Apple is seriously ignoring people SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY for their products. And giving them sub par memory ram storage heat issues, piss ant upgrades, and now cheating COLOR CRAP! PLEASE, do better. SIGH! Nice attitude! This keeps up and all of a sudden the company is going to ask..."WHAT HAPPENED?"

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety +1

      I’m sorry what? Cheating colour?

    • @cupofkona
      @cupofkona Před 2 lety +1

      @@iCaveDave spell check...cheaping out on the color process.

    • @cupofkona
      @cupofkona Před 2 lety

      LOL
      ...spell check is still a work in progress for computers. I do not always bother to fix.

    • @sergeyd2199
      @sergeyd2199 Před 2 lety

      @@cupofkona not just a coloring process! Their keyboard is definitely the worst in history in regards to finger “juice” resistance.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      It’s really not a cheap out issue, it’s that dark colours will always show marks more than light ones because of the colour difference.

  • @Maybaby1959
    @Maybaby1959 Před 3 měsíci

    Just get a case.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 3 měsíci

      Dear god no, then it would look like a crappy windows laptop.

  • @lesalamb
    @lesalamb Před 2 lety +1

    I laughed at your comment about Americans ... and what they keep in their rucksack! Yes, lots of Americans keep those very things in their bags ...

  • @bmc868
    @bmc868 Před 7 měsíci

    light color no finger print and no scratch.....

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 7 měsíci

      If that's what's important to you, go for it. Just remember the silver ones are just as gross as the dark colour ones even if you can't see it if you don't clean them regularly!

  • @ArminDressler
    @ArminDressler Před 2 lety +2

    This makes Starlight an even better choice. Shorter delivery times and more durability.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před 2 lety

      Not more durable, but damage will be less pronounced and noticeable.

  • @jamesapple2
    @jamesapple2 Před 2 lety

    Will we ever get a black MacBook Pro? #icaveanswers

  • @humolovesjessie185
    @humolovesjessie185 Před 2 lety

    “Your Firearms” 😅 #usa 🧨

  • @daram.9565
    @daram.9565 Před rokem +1

    All of the MacBook Air are made of the same metal regardless of the color.

    • @iCaveDave
      @iCaveDave  Před rokem +1

      Yes, aluminium, which has its surface anodised into different colours.