All around Central and North Pattaya and some parts of Nagua. There are massive empty plots of land. Just recently shops have been evicted to clear another plot. What is going on?
**Great video Boss!** I drove up 2nd road all the way up to Soi 20 on my way to The WongAmat Tower to check out some apartments that might be in my future. I was surprised about all the stuff in that area! And Yes... Me being the "Posh" guy I am... I do have the blue toilet tabs!
I came to Pattaya first time in 1985. Back then there were only two roads, beach road and second road - which was a gravel road😊. No bars on second road, only beach road had bars. Even the sois were quiet. And no walking street, just the extention of beach road. Im going back this fall, cant wait to see the changes since my last trip in - 1993 🙄.
So many memories in this video. The building around 13 minutes is the Peace Resort hotel where I stayed numerous times until it closed during COVID and has never reopened. Rumours were that it and all the land around is/was owned by the Best Supermarket owners (Chinese?) Drinking Street was my go to area for years until it changed its target audience, who then tended to dominate the place from midnight onwards. Having spent a lot of time at Centric Sea in the last year, the hotel in front has not been knocked down but has been gutted and extended, don’t think it will be part of Centric.
I remember very well all the Bars in the Drinking Street Complex. The Atmosphere was Great. I meet a lovely girl out there. We still keeping in touch after so many years. Pattaya is Developing very fast. Thanks Phil for the updates! Brings back lots of fun memories 😂
Interesting video Phil..... I did visit the Sawadee Soapy once, back in 2012 on my first trip to town, it was ok, nothing special though.... And i did use the Topps supermarket at the junction, i stay in a place along the Klang near Soi Buakhao, and it was convenient.......
I've got some great memories of that area going back to '97. Greg's kitchen opening opposite soi6, then moving to Drinking Street around '07. Possibly Nakluas only gogo bar, Pussy Cat agogo, just next to the new Akara, now 7/11. Jack's bar where Akara now is. 🥰
@LePubPattaya Greg used to manage the Sportsman in Soi Yodsak, now called soi 6. He opened his own restaurant, Gregs kitchen on 2nd road in mid 1997, then moved to Drinking street around 2007.
Reading between the lines, I see, don't book a hotel on 2nd road as your likely to be next to a building site. That's just how my brain works, also, when you said C word, casino was not the word that came to mind. Excellent job, different and interesting subject
Thanks Mr Egg. Great video , I stayed at the Montien Bangkok and Montien Pattaya many times, good memories always a fantastic view from almost any floor, fantastic pool and garden, Now I always stay in the Dolphin /Naklua area but I see that my go to ,old style hotel ,is under threat of redevelopment . Hope to see you for a coffee in a few weeks.
My guess. Bangkok, sinking into the river plain it was built on, prone to flooding from the north and storm surges to the south, is seeing developers look for opportunities in Pattaya. High speed rail planned and an upgraded airport
Hey Phil and excellent video thank you. Actually, the Montien Hotel was the hotel I stayed at on my very first trip to Pattaya back in 1984. It is sad to see it closed down now as I had some good memories of it... good restaurant, tennis, gardens, pool etc. That was also the trip I met my wife and we are still together today. We and only two weeks back in Aus from our last trip and we (Mrs, sister and I) had a fun time at Le Pub and you were a great host... thanks again Phil 🙂
Good morning mr egg , a great video about the past of pattaya ,I was a regular visitor to the bar beers in front of the pinewood hotel for about 10 years and stayed in both the pinewood and the capitol in its previous name , I remember the McDonald’s as breakfast on many occasions , fantastic times , I also stayed. In the grand sole a couple of times back in the day and also the Sabai resort for a couple of months , it’s such a shame what is happening to north pattaya , let’s hope that they decide what they want to with land very soon
Where you mention Sabai soapy etc was also the Weekender hotel (original name) which I stayed in just before Christmas 1992 when Flipper Lodge had been overbooked !
Curious, if you call a round about an island what name do you give for island on the road or are they all just islands? It seems kinda dumb to call it an island when you do you cant distinguish the difference between the other islands from the round about. Reminds me of Thai people calling a gate a door, i guess it's similar but not very exact.
Travel east (towards Sukhumvit Rd) on North Rd (IIRC just past Fairtex) or Central Rd and you'll see plenty of empty large areas/building for sale as well.
I recall going into what I thought was an abandoned tall building around there, with the intention of hanging a huge prank poster on the outside of the building. It was occupied and we had to pretend we were looking to rent when we got sprung - I was about to dangle off the top floor and attach my huge PVC sign.
Much of that vacant land is owned by developer AWC who are the property arm of Chang. They have approval to build 2 Marriott hotels, retail outlets, a convention centre, a zoo and a Legoland. Possible casino site IMO. Grand Sole was never demolished; the original building is being renovated by AWC. Many of those businesses near Dolphin Circus have moved up towards Naklua or nearby. There is a pretty strong bar scene further up the hill and on some side sois.
The huge plot south of Soi 6 will become Asiatique District Pattaya, has been in the plans for a few years. A mega shopping mall (yes, really), with multiple hotel and condo towers on top. Looking a bit like an urban jungle in the concept images and it will most likely be the biggest building in Pattaya when done. Pattaya and Jomtien will more and more turn into a Copacabana with many more high rise buildings and $$$, once the high speed rail is finished and eventually the monorail along 2nd road exists.
If you read some of the comments on here, you can see some very detailed replies about ownership of certain parts that I covered in the video. My community usually comes up with the answers. Thanks very much for tuning in and for your comment.
It was our tradition to always have a few beers @ Corner Bar, before diving down Soi 6 for short times! They always had lots of free sandwiches there, too!
The bar opposite Soi 6 was called Jimmy’s Place and up further where you were stood was Malee bar on the front and further up was Viking bar set up by Vic who went to the Victoria pub on Soi 6. End of 90’s I’m talking
I stayed at the Sabai resort about 10 years ago. I remember the rooms were old and dated back then. I used to drink in the beer bar complexes on Naklua road they’re gone now. I went for a walk and drink up there in February it’s changed so much. Barracuda bar is still there after all these years. Enjoyed this walk about Phil 👍
I met and fell in love with a girl from barracuda bar, you probably know her! Yes, it’s always sad to see bars getting knocked down and moving on, but I guess that’s progress. Thank you for your comments.
I spent an hour or so walking around that 'Space' building early last year. Managed to sneak into the top floor pool and gym, pretending I was staying there. It's super impressive.
Runway street food is the most disappointing landmark in Pattaya. The 747 just sits there, looking grotty. It's not integrated into it in any way and doesn't really add any value except making it very easy to find. As for the area being the "new place to be", time will tell. It'll be interesting to see what the cost will be of the new developments.
Hi Phil, I was at your bar in December and talked to you a few times. really liked your bar but only visited a couple of times because the girl Geordie wouldn't leave me alone. Because i bought her a few drink the first time i was in there she presumed she was my girlfriend. Hopefully we can sort it out this misunderstanding next time i am there in a couple of months.
Only flash motel stayed in was montien 2000 and 500 baht bringing girl back at night and every morning 5am someone knock on door so stayed up one morning waited soon knock open nothing there had me stuffed true story great pool 200 baht for a towel enjoyed walk to walking street baht bus home
Developers dream??? more looks like business have given up and are fleeing... Surprised to see all the business on Nakula rd gone after the recent "high" season, they've obviously also given up... Curious who's going to invest any money in all the empty lots... The current crop of "tourists" that TAT are soliciting bring no money in... Seen any Chinese or Russian malls? I havent...
I’ve seen plenty of Chinese and Russians spending BIG money over here. They aren’t all low spend tourist. Many shops didn’t want to leave. They were told their time was up. Sorry I can’t agree with your negative slant.
@@LePubPattaya I was not referring to tourists... I was referring to INVESTORS... Before COVID, there was a lot of Thai/Chinese money creating businesses targeting the Chinese tourists... but after COVID hit, and the Chinese tourists started drying up, they pulled out of Pattaya pretty quick... some of that investment has started coming back into Pattaya (hella lot of Chinese noodle places, and chinese conveyor belt hotpot places, but nowhere near the same variety as before... Same could be said of Russian investment (same same Russian clubs)... but haven't seen hardly any Russian businesses (plenty of Russian targeted signs though)... Alot of Indian Investments around town and WS though... Ditto other Western businesses... Again, show me the investment money coming in, all you showed were empty lots... lots and lots of empty lots...
@@LePubPattaya Yes true, 4 months on da piss with many Farang wanting to share beers with the boss, only to find out more about the girls hahaha, then 2 months of the shakes and a speedy flight home to sort out all of the shite I had run away from (just as you talked about in that Ozzy guys vlog) haha Good times yeah
Very similar to development sites in many parts of the world where Chinese developers have run out of money. In some cases, they continue to lease out the facilities (particularly where municipalities have forced them to) but very often the Chinese simply leave them vacant. Naklua has progressively become Chinese oriented so I suspect that is the focus with those vacant properties. As we have seen elsewhere, those properties may be available at below cost because the Chinese developers are actively liquidating anywhere they can. That whole country has been built on debt.
**Great video Boss!** I drove up 2nd road all the way up to Soi 20 on my way to The WongAmat Tower to check out some apartments that might be in my future. I was surprised about all the stuff in that area! And Yes... Me being the "Posh" guy I am... I do have the blue toilet tabs!
I knew it!
I came to Pattaya first time in 1985. Back then there were only two roads, beach road and second road - which was a gravel road😊. No bars on second road, only beach road had bars. Even the sois were quiet. And no walking street, just the extention of beach road. Im going back this fall, cant wait to see the changes since my last trip in - 1993 🙄.
There were bars on Second Road in the nineties. Obviously I’m a newbie compared to you 😀😀😀
So many memories in this video.
The building around 13 minutes is the Peace Resort hotel where I stayed numerous times until it closed during COVID and has never reopened. Rumours were that it and all the land around is/was owned by the Best Supermarket owners (Chinese?)
Drinking Street was my go to area for years until it changed its target audience, who then tended to dominate the place from midnight onwards.
Having spent a lot of time at Centric Sea in the last year, the hotel in front has not been knocked down but has been gutted and extended, don’t think it will be part of Centric.
Yes. I was wrong about Centric. It’s a separate project. I remember the Peace resort. .
I remember very well all the Bars in the Drinking Street Complex. The Atmosphere was Great. I meet a lovely girl out there. We still keeping in touch after so many years. Pattaya is Developing very fast. Thanks Phil for the updates! Brings back lots of fun memories 😂
Glad I brought back some happy memories for you. Drinking Street was OK until it started playing Arabic music which started to put me off really.
Inspiring stuff . I’ll be back next week . Blows Phuket away !
Phuket is a very nice island but not really for me
Interesting video Phil..... I did visit the Sawadee Soapy once, back in 2012 on my first trip to town, it was ok, nothing special though.... And i did use the Topps supermarket at the junction, i stay in a place along the Klang near Soi Buakhao, and it was convenient.......
Happy memories for you I’m sure, but obviously things move on now
It would be interesting to see what Develops!
Thanks, Mr.Egg
Cheers mate.
I've got some great memories of that area going back to '97.
Greg's kitchen opening opposite soi6, then moving to Drinking Street around '07.
Possibly Nakluas only gogo bar, Pussy Cat agogo, just next to the new Akara, now 7/11.
Jack's bar where Akara now is. 🥰
I don’t remember Gregg‘s kitchen being in that location but I do remember that gogo bar in Nagua. They relocated to 16 in walking Street.
@LePubPattaya Greg used to manage the Sportsman in Soi Yodsak, now called soi 6. He opened his own restaurant, Gregs kitchen on 2nd road in mid 1997, then moved to Drinking street around 2007.
Reading between the lines, I see, don't book a hotel on 2nd road as your likely to be next to a building site. That's just how my brain works, also, when you said C word, casino was not the word that came to mind. Excellent job, different and interesting subject
I always think about that too!
That’s a good point BB although they are all just empty land at the moment.
Thanks Mr Egg. Great video , I stayed at the Montien Bangkok and Montien Pattaya many times, good memories always a fantastic view from almost any floor, fantastic pool and garden, Now I always stay in the Dolphin /Naklua area but I see that my go to ,old style hotel ,is under threat of redevelopment . Hope to see you for a coffee in a few weeks.
I’m I Peter. See you soon. I hope you get a nice hotel.
My guess. Bangkok, sinking into the river plain it was built on, prone to flooding from the north and storm surges to the south, is seeing developers look for opportunities in Pattaya. High speed rail planned and an upgraded airport
A very very good point Philip.
Hey Phil and excellent video thank you. Actually, the Montien Hotel was the hotel I stayed at on my very first trip to Pattaya back in 1984. It is sad to see it closed down now as I had some good memories of it... good restaurant, tennis, gardens, pool etc. That was also the trip I met my wife and we are still together today. We and only two weeks back in Aus from our last trip and we (Mrs, sister and I) had a fun time at Le Pub and you were a great host... thanks again Phil 🙂
Nice one. Say hi to the Mrs. The More notebooks has been closed a long long time now. Happy memories for you.
I always thought that the big land plot that go from second road to beach road belongs to the State, and I hope maybe in future they do a public park.
I’m not sure about that. That’s the first time I’ve heard that. It would be a nice idea.
@@LePubPattaya lets fingers crossed!
Sabai hotel and soapy resort - stayed there in 2018 was excellent, 3 pools, nice rooms, good prices!
Yes. A lot of people liked that place.
Good morning mr egg , a great video about the past of pattaya ,I was a regular visitor to the bar beers in front of the pinewood hotel for about 10 years and stayed in both the pinewood and the capitol in its previous name , I remember the McDonald’s as breakfast on many occasions , fantastic times , I also stayed. In the grand sole a couple of times back in the day and also the Sabai resort for a couple of months , it’s such a shame what is happening to north pattaya , let’s hope that they decide what they want to with land very soon
Lovely update thank you. I’m not sure that there’s a big project going on. Just a lot of landowners have decided as time to drop the hammer.
Where you mention Sabai soapy etc was also the Weekender hotel (original name) which I stayed in just before Christmas 1992 when Flipper Lodge had been overbooked !
Nice memories. Thanks for sharing.
Stayed at sabai resort 5 times before covid
Good layout,stayed at the back once a friend moaned it was a long way❤😢😂
To where? The room?
Curious, if you call a round about an island what name do you give for island on the road or are they all just islands? It seems kinda dumb to call it an island when you do you cant distinguish the difference between the other islands from the round about. Reminds me of Thai people calling a gate a door, i guess it's similar but not very exact.
It’s a Birmingham thing and we are all dumb.
Thanx on a great vid Mr. Egg!
My pleasure!
Those beer bars on Second road were still there in 2014, not so busy but i guess it was the point to go there for a quiet evening
I met some lovely ladies there.
@@LePubPattaya those were the times !
Travel east (towards Sukhumvit Rd) on North Rd (IIRC just past Fairtex) or Central Rd and you'll see plenty of empty large areas/building for sale as well.
Yes. On North Road
"Getting better" Really?
I moved out of town, and now almost never return due to traffic. It will only get worse.
You’re correct. The traffic is horrible at the moment. I suggest just more people on the roads in cars rather than bike
As a businessman im surprised you think they wouldnt put a casino where the money is ..Very interesting walk around , appreciated ..
Yes, I think in hindsight, I have to agree with you.
since or when are they letting u bet in thailand?
Good day ! Thank you
Good morning!
I recall going into what I thought was an abandoned tall building around there, with the intention of hanging a huge prank poster on the outside of the building. It was occupied and we had to pretend we were looking to rent when we got sprung - I was about to dangle off the top floor and attach my huge PVC sign.
Naughty bushman
Much of that vacant land is owned by developer AWC who are the property arm of Chang. They have approval to build 2 Marriott hotels, retail outlets, a convention centre, a zoo and a Legoland. Possible casino site IMO.
Grand Sole was never demolished; the original building is being renovated by AWC.
Many of those businesses near Dolphin Circus have moved up towards Naklua or nearby. There is a pretty strong bar scene further up the hill and on some side sois.
Thank you so much for this detailed reply and I have hearted it so hopefully many of the people that watch the video can see your comments.
You're looking nice and slim Phil. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
The huge plot south of Soi 6 will become Asiatique District Pattaya, has been in the plans for a few years. A mega shopping mall (yes, really), with multiple hotel and condo towers on top. Looking a bit like an urban jungle in the concept images and it will most likely be the biggest building in Pattaya when done. Pattaya and Jomtien will more and more turn into a Copacabana with many more high rise buildings and $$$, once the high speed rail is finished and eventually the monorail along 2nd road exists.
Thanks for the update. Much appreciated.
Yes I stayed at Sabai Resort a couple of times, very sad to see it demolished, and drinking street. Who owns all these big blocks of land ??
If you read some of the comments on here, you can see some very detailed replies about ownership of certain parts that I covered in the video. My community usually comes up with the answers. Thanks very much for tuning in and for your comment.
It was our tradition to always have a few beers @ Corner Bar, before diving down Soi 6 for short times! They always had lots of free sandwiches there, too!
Can’t beat a free sandwich
The bar opposite Soi 6 was called Jimmy’s Place and up further where you were stood was Malee bar on the front and further up was Viking bar set up by Vic who went to the Victoria pub on Soi 6. End of 90’s I’m talking
Malee bar. Yes
what was the bar area next to sabai massage, back in 93 was brilliant but long gone.
Not sure about that one. There were lots of bars in that area.
was a great little bar corner bar
Yes.
Yes remember sabah Lodge also the bars where siam hotel is. Also nakula had 1 go go and lot of bar areas all gone now oh I miss those days .
Was it called Kitten?
Akara Hotel £54 a night, looks nice.
That’s cheap. I wonder if it sells booze.
@@LePubPattaya of course
Phil , I have told you before that I live in rugby ,I will visit you le pub in a couple of months buddy
See you soon, buddy
I stayed at the Sabai resort about 10 years ago. I remember the rooms were old and dated back then. I used to drink in the beer bar complexes on Naklua road they’re gone now. I went for a walk and drink up there in February it’s changed so much. Barracuda bar is still there after all these years. Enjoyed this walk about Phil 👍
I met and fell in love with a girl from barracuda bar, you probably know her! Yes, it’s always sad to see bars getting knocked down and moving on, but I guess that’s progress. Thank you for your comments.
😮 drinking street many good memories along with best friends and siren beer bars 👍 👍 👍
Siren was on walking Street.
@LePubPattaya all roads leads to fun in pattaya 😁
I remember Sabai Resort when it was called Weekender hotel.
Second mention for the Weekender.
Phil - You should wear a Safari Suit , when doing these vids . I always enjoy watching your vids
I’ll look for a new
I thought one of the plots of land, goes from beach to 2nd Rd, was going to be a hotel and waterpark by marriot
That’s the first I’ve heard of that. But you might be right, I’ll keep my ears open.
I nicked one of your beer mats😂
You are very naughty.
Is the Sabai resort gone?
Yes
I spent an hour or so walking around that 'Space' building early last year. Managed to sneak into the top floor pool and gym, pretending I was staying there. It's super impressive.
That is awesome!
Yes she wanted taxi next time 😂
don't understand Bradders
22 CM. I'm proud to have such size.
Many thanks for your self promotion.
Runway street food is the most disappointing landmark in Pattaya. The 747 just sits there, looking grotty. It's not integrated into it in any way and doesn't really add any value except making it very easy to find. As for the area being the "new place to be", time will tell. It'll be interesting to see what the cost will be of the new developments.
Couldn’t agree more. It screams if a project that ran out of money. Looks awful
U too coyote bar was a favourite along second road
Yes, on the left then relocated to Drinking. Now in Buakow area I believe .
👍
Hi Phil, I was at your bar in December and talked to you a few times. really liked your bar but only visited a couple of times because the girl Geordie wouldn't leave me alone. Because i bought her a few drink the first time i was in there she presumed she was my girlfriend. Hopefully we can sort it out this misunderstanding next time i am there in a couple of months.
Ok. Thanks for the info. I don’t have a girl called Geordie. Not sure who it could be.
@@LePubPattaya sorry I must have heard her name wrong. I will verify her name on the next Thai girls play pool. Thanks.
Are your bags packed? I heard Texas makes the best Traditional Full English Breakfast served all day. Inquire at the nearest IHOP or Denny’s.
Hope there’s baked beans.
Not sure how many more 5 star hotels or condominiums Pattaya needs? No body is in the ones already built.
My friend, who is a manager of a five star hotel would beg to differ. It’s usually pretty full.
Maybe the price of land is increasing.
Well, it certainly not going down! You’re right. Thanks for your comment.
I am confused, what you call 2nd road is called sai song road, am i right ?
Sai song means second line of road in Thai language
Pattaya ever changing, europeans, russians, indians chinese, problem is they forget too quickly where the genuine foreign money came from
Do you think they care?
Only flash motel stayed in was montien 2000 and 500 baht bringing girl back at night and every morning 5am someone knock on door so stayed up one morning waited soon knock open nothing there had me stuffed true story great pool 200 baht for a towel enjoyed walk to walking street baht bus home
Yes, I remember a travel agents in Bangkok wouldn’t book that hotel because they said there was a joiners fee
@@LePubPattaya 500 baht a night....back then
Developers dream??? more looks like business have given up and are fleeing... Surprised to see all the business on Nakula rd gone after the recent "high" season, they've obviously also given up... Curious who's going to invest any money in all the empty lots... The current crop of "tourists" that TAT are soliciting bring no money in... Seen any Chinese or Russian malls? I havent...
I’ve seen plenty of Chinese and Russians spending BIG money over here. They aren’t all low spend tourist. Many shops didn’t want to leave. They were told their time was up.
Sorry I can’t agree with your negative slant.
@@LePubPattaya I was not referring to tourists... I was referring to INVESTORS... Before COVID, there was a lot of Thai/Chinese money creating businesses targeting the Chinese tourists... but after COVID hit, and the Chinese tourists started drying up, they pulled out of Pattaya pretty quick... some of that investment has started coming back into Pattaya (hella lot of Chinese noodle places, and chinese conveyor belt hotpot places, but nowhere near the same variety as before... Same could be said of Russian investment (same same Russian clubs)... but haven't seen hardly any Russian businesses (plenty of Russian targeted signs though)... Alot of Indian Investments around town and WS though... Ditto other Western businesses... Again, show me the investment money coming in, all you showed were empty lots... lots and lots of empty lots...
many many moons ago I had a bar on Drinking Street......... Yes, I did not heed the wise words of others and bought a bar only to regret it hahahahaha
Andy, it was good for a while.
@@LePubPattaya Yes true, 4 months on da piss with many Farang wanting to share beers with the boss, only to find out more about the girls hahaha, then 2 months of the shakes and a speedy flight home to sort out all of the shite I had run away from (just as you talked about in that Ozzy guys vlog) haha Good times yeah
Very similar to development sites in many parts of the world where Chinese developers have run out of money. In some cases, they continue to lease out the facilities (particularly where municipalities have forced them to) but very often the Chinese simply leave them vacant. Naklua has progressively become Chinese oriented so I suspect that is the focus with those vacant properties. As we have seen elsewhere, those properties may be available at below cost because the Chinese developers are actively liquidating anywhere they can. That whole country has been built on debt.
Nakglua is, in my opinion, more Russian oriented and the big hotel developments are all Arab.
All this "development" will ruin Pattaya it will get expensive and boring.
Some people would want it to get a bit more exclusive.
Phl how do way black over there pal surely its hot enough 😂
It’s a shirt I wear at night but good point.
Yes. In 5 years it will be a very nice area.
I hope so!