Classic 1970's & 80's SteamTrain Runs with original sound
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- Purchase Blu-Ray and DVD Discs of the complete program at www.greenfrog.com
-Super 8mm film with original Magnetic Striped Audio-
Join Green Frog Productions for a nostalgic look back during the zenith of the Southern Railway steam program in the late 1970's and early 80's in and around Chattanooga Tennessee.
Follow Filmographer, Tom Rock as he records Texas & Pacific No. 610, Chesapeake & Ohio No. 2716 and Southern Railway No. 4501 making their way in and out of Chattanooga from points north and south.
Also included is a short segment on the Cuyahoga Valley Line from Cleveland to Akron Ohio, featuring Grand Trunk Western No. 4070.
Loco's Included:
#610, #2716, #4501, #4070, #630, #611, & early Diesel action
Time Approx: 82 Minutes
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I honestly think that 610 was the largest single frame locomotive to operate in excursion service. Impressed it even could RUN on southern rails since it was so heavy!
That might have been why the Southern stopped using her, and started looking for other steam locomotives like the Royal Hudson and C&O 2716.
@@JCBro-yg8vd if I remember right it was because 610 was originally built to do freight so she was build with smaller diameter drivers and due to that she couldn’t get up to the high speeds the southern wanted for their excursion trains
@@flyaround5953 Yes. And they also had trouble finding wys to turn her around on (I assume she was too heavy or too wide for a turntable). So after 1978, the Southern began using her less and less. And in 1981 she was sold back to her original owner and was retired a year later by the UP (which now owned the tracks formerly belonging to the T&P).
2926: ok, my turn
Weight wasn’t the issue as much as it was her length.
I got to see #4070 at Cleveland this year. I can't wait to see it run again!
Erich Diebold that engine will never run again
@@plymouth-hl20ton37 Not true
Ohio Railfanning Corporation okay where are they going to get the money for this thing oh that's right same place they got the money for to repair the reading T1
They said the T1 should be done in April of this year but as long as they keep getting donations once the Reading is restored they should absolutely continue the restoration work on 4070.
@@ArturoRailProductions it still isn't completed
the 4070 actually went all the way to B&O yard in Akron to be turned and watered
It's fantastic to know that some of these engines are back in service today. 630, 4501 & 611. Best of all for me the Kentucky steam heritage corporation are leasing the C&O/ "Southern" 2716 from the KRM IF they get the funds raised for her restoration, shop, maintenance and equipment,etc. They say the engine is sound condition for another overhaul to service and hope to begin it next year 2017 and want to have her ready to go by the year 2020 running trips out of Lexington, KY.
Dylan Watson i hope the someday will paint her back to her southern colors
I wish 722 was still running and not in peices
She at least should be put back together and given a cosmetic makeover, maybe even donate her back to the TVRM for static display.
@@JCBro-yg8vd well GSMR has her in shops for operational restoration
@@GSMRFan incorrect 722s fate is unknown most likely gonna be a display piece
@@robintheslavewr1513 yep I found out recently my Info I was told was incorrect as I saw the 722 recently and she is in pieces however they have cleaned her boiler up a little bit
@@GSMRFan 722 deserves a nice restoration and keep it in that green and red paint
Imagine if BNSF ran a steam program? They’re the second largest railway in America so there would be A LOT of steam engines on display along their track. For example NP 2156.
BNSF has allowed steam locomotives until recently, due to an unfortunate situation at Amtrak (the policies of Amtrak President, CEO, and Chairman, Mr. Richard H. Anderson.) The steam locomotives that have run on the BNSF have included SP&S 4-8-4 # 700, SP 4-8-4 # 4449, UP 4-8-4 # 844, AT&SF 4-8-4 # 3751, MILW 4-8-4 # 261, and soon to be AT&SF 4-8-4 # 2926, among a few others over the years.
I know Saluda's still there in case needed but, it's a royal pain to actually run trains over it. I'll wager as long as NS has options they won't mess w/Saluda.
6:38 People should seriously take notes of these whistles. This one’s a Longbell 3 Chime.
A handcock?
Steam excursions will never be as good as this ever.
It's because of idiots claiming they pollute and idiots who don't give a damn about history that ended this great show of History and I hope that train lovers everywhere boycott their ideals and bring this back
@@RailPreserver2K I think it's all coming back slow and steady. All that crap about the pollution factor and the other stuff has been shown to be over-hyped and fabricated.
Modern insurance and safety policies, as well as boneheaded decisions from the Class 1 Railroads seem to be limiting options.
Absolutely! I live around Chattanooga, so the fact that the greatest steam train program was practically based IN Chattanooga makes me feel honored! My favorite engine in here is the 2716.
Southern 2716 sound like almost like Frisco 1522 1988 whistle
The good ole days. I was on a lot of those Southern trips. My first trip was when I was 5 years old.
The headlight and the front on the 4070 looks like the 630 a little bit to me.
611's whistle sounds a bit different from the whistle she usually had at the time.
JCBro2014 it sounded higher
Blame poor microphones on cameras distorting the sound
That was from a different engine offscreen.
Those are some thick whitewalls on 4070.
The 1970's and 80's Steam Passenger Excursion.
the man that filmed the first locomotive is one of the board directors at mrtm which i volunteer at.
4501 grand old lady of the south
in a video of the 2716 they said that the 610 could pull a lot of cars but not “fast” but in this shot it’s going about 60-70 MPH 0:01
Try about 50... it has only 63" drivers. They are really goin for an engine meant to drag a freight slowly up a hill.
@@PereMarquette1223 It does have a disc main driver though, so that could have helped it go faster
@@blackbirdgaming8147 it would help with balancing for sure, but I still don’t think it was going 70.
Southern 630 was on The TVRM
Btw you can buy The Double Header at TVRM in 1984 dvd with 630 and 722 you seen here at the TVRM gift shop
Looks like 630 wore a Hancock Longbell 3 chime. But I don't know if 722 used a CoG or L&N 6-chime.
Wait. 4501 had a 3 chime whistle?!
They borrowed 1401's whistle for a bit...
Central Of Georgia 6 chime whistle also
The good days where we could hear and smell the engine....not anymore
@@Dan_isreal.08 "boomer" that's disrespectful, he meant that when steam was common and diesel was less. Next time use the thing in your head called the "brain". Trust me, it will help you out.
@@Dan_isreal.08 it's alright i just saw the post date.
I want to see Reading 2101 restored to operating condition and brought out of the museum.
I feel the same but it's been over 40 years since that fire and I doubt she'll ever run again becuase of it
That would require so many things to align just right. They never even determined if the fire had irrepairably damaged 2101, which is why they decided to accept Cheesie's offer for a swap.
2102 and 2100 at the same time:
*2101 got burnt in a roundhouse fire! it's only good for a cosmetic restoration, plus both of us are coming back soon*
From Steams Camelot: S&A 750 could sprint at 60 with 7 or 8 cars on level track
630 and 722 could wrestle 10 cars at 40
4501 could handle 10 and 12 cars at 45 for extended periods
The 4449 when operated by the Southern in 1976 had the 20 car 1425 ton train running at 79 which was max speed for the Southern's passenger trains
The Texas 610 could handle a 19 or 20 car 1400 ton train up to 55
The Beer Can, ex Canadian Pacific 2839 could handle about 800 tons and still run up to 80
And from my personal memory ex C&O 2716 could handle 19 cars at 55
Is there a link to purchase this program?
The last steam locomotives were replaced in the mid 50s.
Ah on the mention of saluta, if its ever brought back into service, they ought to restore on of the allegany class and give it 30 cars or so and let her have at it, or bring over 4014 and let her have at it once she is restored, the nasty grade gave even the biggest engines a fight, in fact in raw power it would take at least two modern diesles to equal one of the biggest of the late steam period engines at just over 4300 hp per unit from ge, though two would be more then the power of a bigboy I bet she could still give two alone a run for the money in raw power once she comes back to life at 2019 as planned, just saying. would be nice to see, and its neat to see some footage of the N&W 611 which they are also trying to restore but fundraising right now for facillities to do so.
i mean 4501
Grand Trunk Western 2-8-2 Mikado 4070.
I’ve been to the Roundhouse in Cleveland and I saw the engine with my own eyes 👀 I even donated money 💴 towards the restoration of the engine 🚂
What is the name of this movie
When will 722 be restored
Who knows maybe if another railroad buys it
@@TrainFan119 let’s pray it has a better home sooner than later. Even SERM or even three rivers rambler
Please tell me what whistle that is on 2716 and where it is now. I think it's a 3 chime.
Southern PS-4 Hancock 3 chime. She is at the Kentucky Railway Museum in New Haven getting ready to be restored.
Actually 2716 carried for most of it's trips a Illinois Central 3 chime that belonged to Bill Purdie. Supposedly he liked it's slightly deeper sound.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE SOO LINE THAT WENT THRU WISCONSIN??? WOULD LIKE ANYTHING ON THAT LINE...LIKE THE 2719 OR ANY OTHER ENGINES.....THANKS.. COMMENT TO MY CHANNEL...PLEASE
Thanks for watching - sorry but we do not have any further info on this, maybe someone will chime in with info!