Understanding the Supreme Court ruling against affirmative action
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- The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled against the use of affirmative action in college admissions. CBS News had team coverage of the ruling with reactions from across the country and analysis of what exactly the decision means.
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Affirmative action died when asian Americans were no longer included as a minority. They were one of the most vocal groups when it came to this topic. In the example of service vehicles the guy gave, it would be like if the reserved spot was for all service vehicles except ambulances...ambulances alone cannot park there but all other service vehicles can
Horrible example. No college says No Asians Allowed. His example still stands.
horrible example
it’s as if there are 10 other ambulances in the service spots already
@@clintonoreofe there can be 300 ambulances. A service vehicle is still a service vehicle
giovan,
Asians are a Minority . It is not fair that many wealthy Asians come to American Universities to study, and they are included in the National results. It is well known that Asians need to study double time than whites, in order to obtain good grades, but that has nothing to do with Intelligence. Intelligence has a different meaning.
This is such a win for all Americans
No it's not. More rich kids will benefit not you.
@korreyfields8805 Asians will finally get the fair playing field we always wanted.
@@bikboto-zx6myctually they won’t. You will see less Asians being admitted and more rich privileged white children getting those spots at the top schools.
@@korreyfields8805 Imagine fighting to end systematic racism then systematic racism has ended and still complaining. >.>
@@korreyfields8805considering colleges were discriminating against poor white kids the most, your wrong. This isn’t a debate.. we literally have the data.
It’s common sense to recruit candidates based on their academic records
Except for legacy admissions, who are 90% white.
i dont see harvard advertising in hispanic communities,
So what ? but it is not worth to send your child to these “elite” schools for brainwashing these days 😂😂😂😂😂
we wouldn't have this problem if white europeans didn't make race an issue in america. Let's see killing natives taking land from mexico enslaving blacks jim crowe redlining drug integration soooo yeah america owes a lot of atonement.
@@bachrattler4771 don’t know why Harvard needs to advertise itself at all. Maybe you are referring to Trump University? 😂
Took 'em long enough. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Returning discrimination for discrimination was always a terrible idea.
When MLK said he didn't want people to be judged by their color, I didn't hear him saying "except for the Asians".
@@xdxdsheepme neither
Thomas Sowell's, the origins of Woke,1995. Black conservative's. The most hated group in Leftist political thought. Affirmative Action, another fine work of communism. And Today show, NBC, ABC, CBS empowered it further. Sad day at the office. Losing the campaign. All that work for nothing. Another losing effort is LGBTQA, just for kids. Sad day for WJ too. Good reason why the Democratic party didn't give the Left a platform in the 1960's. Would have thrown JFK under the bus. Imposter's, Democratic socialist's that borrow our name.
all they have to do is teach crt and take them statues down and pay reparations and we good.
@@xdxdsheepWhere did OP mention Asians?
Why do they keep referring to financial/poverty issues, there is no financial component to affirmative action. Poor schooling cannot be corrected with reverse racism.
Because these racists can't get it out of their head that being black or a POC doesn't mean your impoverished. Even Biden during his campaign kept slipping up on that.
And by "reverse racism," he means racism.
@@johnsmith7140 indeed. racism is just racism no matter which race it goes against.
Because many black communities are impoverished communities. Because of Systemic Racism. These communities are grossly underfunded and the students aren’t as supported as their counterparts
Everyone is equal. Schools should be based on merit, not skin color or heritage.
Heritage includes wealth. Legacy admissions and "Aunt Beckying" the way to the Uni are still around.
@@omarolive "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." --MLK
@@christinechen6322 🤣🤣 As if you people actually believe in that statement. Hello, AA was because you people couldn't stop being racist and the government had to step in and take action.
The law was created because black folks merit
Wan never being judged but our race was.
@@tipsandtricks6071 How am I being racist? People like you spreading hatred without merit is part of the problem in this country? Don't like what someone says? Call them a racist or bigot!
Merit based achievement is the only way one will achieve in life.
Yeah make churches pay taxes
@@catwrangler7907 we are talking about systematic racism and you deflect with churches and taxes? well its obvious who you voted for, that you are up to date with all your boosters AND wear a mask alone in your car. XD
@@954pilot ok how about cutting off oil companies and farmers subsidies and make the rich pay tax on their capital gains also get rid of qualified immunity for rotten cops and legacy admissions for top Ivy League schools.
@@catwrangler7907 "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." --MLK
@@christinechen6322still a dream
7:13 I remember when SCOTUS decided 20 years ago that AA would be allowed to continue, but wrote that things were getting better and AA would have to end within 20-30 years. Today they kept their word.
I’m just stoked that Sandra day O’Connor said that. She had great hair.
They didn't fore see that the problem is now Orientals out score Whites and our best schools will be almost completely Oriental. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
AA should never end, and it should have only been for Blacks as payment for them building this country.
@@Bruss813 BAAAHAAA 🤣
@@Bruss813 If economic historians are to be believed, Chinese coolie labor built the transcontinental railroad that led to the westward growth of the US. If the sugar and pineapple industries to be believed, Filipino workers built the sugar cane and pineapple industries. Everybody built the US; whites, blacks, latinos, and, yes, even asians .
They say the schools are falling apart, and the test scores are abysmal, but the taxpayer burden per student at DC Public Schools is higher than the tuition to all but the most expensive area private schools.
What gives?
Same in Minnesota
Same in Baltimore, MD with 24% of high schoolers with a GPA
Same in many of the major cities. I remember when the Detroit teachers union striked. They were screaming about race and how people refused to fund detroit schools because of racism. Turns out they were getting enough money from State and Federal funding per student to send them all to the best K-12 private schools in the state! And detroit test scores were abysmal.
ONE STEP CLOSER TO EQUALITY FOR ALL! ALL RACES DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS! GREAT JOB SCOTUS!
Lmao it don't work like that boss.
@@StylezofGaming uhh... Yes it does kid
@@StylezofGamingyes it does employee
Reparation crap 💩 will get shot down as unconstitutional next
The hard work that needs to be done to increase the percentage of black and Hispanic students at the top schools can not be done by universities. Instead it must be done by parents and students.
I assure you, they very much are. The problem is that despite putting in the same amount of work, they aren't being given the same consideration as white students. This is what Affirmative Action is meant to correct.
@spongeintheshoe go to the library when it opens on Saturday morning in a black neighborhood. Not everyone is trying. Plenty are still beating up others for acting white. The upper and middle class kids are working, but many others are not.
How come there is no affirmative action for jail, but yet tons of B-l-a-c-k people are qualified?
Sports needs diverse players
@@davorod8509 so you're saying black people are for sports and nothing else? That's racist
Could someone make something clear: why did this issue arrive before the US Supreme Court in the first place? Was someone suing a school? I'm unable to find any clear and concise background information on this issue. What led up to this?
California Prop 209 replaced affirmative action in 1996. The measure eliminate state and local government affirmative action programs in the areas of public employment, public education, and public contracting to the extent these programs involve "preferential treatment" based on race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.
I applied for Cal back in 1991 and was denied because the university wanted more black and brown students. A few years later, the university had a class action lawsuit for discrimination. Hence Prop 209.
Thanks to Prop 209. Students are accepted to the University they applied to based on their achievements and merit. Universities have the highest Asian students enrollment.
32.2% Asian. 22.5% Hispanic/Latino. 22.2% White. 4.5% African American.
Affirmative action is an excuse for those who “can’t” and wants rewarded for “preferential treatment” based on their ethnicity and gender.
I am pleased the Supreme Court ruled against it.
It can benefit to indians and chinese. Guys crush academics.
It took this long to finally end racism. Preferential quota for whites or blacks is basically textbook racism.
Racism hasn't gone anywhere. Anti-black racism is gonna skyrocket after this ruling, qualified black people will be disqualified in favor of mediocre white people who will be admitted through legacy admission.
In all fairness the atmosphere and environment today is much different from the 1960’s.
Lower admission scores by any particular group, black, white or brown is more indicative of local cultural and political failures in educating our youth than anything to do with racism.
Yes, and for some reason blacks come out at the bottom every time
@@mr.horrorchild4094 "Poor kids are just as smart and bright as white kids" - Joe Biden 2020
That implies that members of that group all live in the same location.
About time! This was the last truly racist policy still on the books.
Indeed
Grandaddy's money can still get you into Harvard. Make Harvard tuition free. Entry based on grades, test scores, essays, life experience, and demonstrations of character and integrity in their everyday lives.
No
No, this makes too much sense.
How much money your give to a school.or have shouldn't be a factor either so you saying only apply of other ethnic groups but ya'll shouldn't have them. If you are going make it fair, then make an admission fair across the board
Good call.
There should only be one color that matters in the higher learning professions
Gray Matter
You mean Green - the color of money, this means they aren't concerned if you are intelligent, it means that if your family went to school there and donated money, their kid gets in and someone who does not have money or connections, are dumped to the side of the road.
Green matters more that's a fact.
@@korreyfields8805 You're just realizing that now, today?
Diversity isn’t as important as people who can pay up.
Obviously money talks.
The avg student graduates with around $30.000 in debt. It's expensive for even the middle class lol. Only ultra rich have no problem going to school.
Just like Dr. Dre "donating" $70 million to USC for a new wing/building and his daughter miraculously gets into USC few years later.....by her own hard work.
Oh yes it is military gives blacks 400 points on the asap
I hate the arguments and complaints about how schools don't either pay teachers enough, there aren't enough programs or learning materials. Look at the athletics department at those schools and I can show you where all that extra money is.
Overseas schools with a fraction of the resources of the poorest neighborhood in the u.s. manage to produce students who perform well enough to compete at the highest academic level in America. Makes me wonder what da fk we are doing here with education.
@@xdxdsheep I know right? You saw one example just overturned. School in the US is now about social justice rather than learning.
@@brianlevine249 I barely spoke English when I first came to the u.s.. I spent 2 year at an extremely small esl public high school before I went to college. Some of my classmates didn't even know how to write English letters, but we all had to graduate within 2-4 years due to our age. You would think our school would perform really bad compared to other schools in the neighborhood, but you would be wrong. We had some of the best graduation rate (over90%), college admission rate(it was 67%), gpa and average sat score in the neighborhood. Our results were comparable to some of the prestigious private schools nearby. It had nothing to do with the resources we had, we shared one small size campus with 2 other schools. It had everything to do with the fact that we all came from similar backgrounds and we all knew that if we don't work hard, we have no future. I have seen a lot of my classmates went from illiterate in english to admittable by college standard within 2-4 years, and to tell us that average American born students couldn't achieve greatness because of the lack of resources is an insult to all of us..
The first guest knew exactly what he was talking about
If you want to create policies to help poor students, consider social economic status, constitution doesn’t forbid that. You can not, however, use race. We fought a civil war for that.
"While I am painfully aware of the social and economic ravages which have befallen my race and all who suffer discrimination, I hold out enduring hope that this country will live up to its principles so clearly enunciated in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States: that all men are created equal, are equal citizens, and must be treated equally before the law," Thomas wrote.
It's in my Opinion; That these Supreme Court judges whom Pass anti-LGBTQ+ Law's that allow for discrimination, shouldn't be allowed to change any law's, when there going around breaking laws by accepting lavish gift's from right wing billionare's in return for favors! like these!
*We've had affirmative action for 50 years! Time to move on! Even the late justice Sandra Day O'Connor foresaw the day when it would no longer be justified or needed! Maybe now black students will take time to work and study harder knowing they won't have that crutch to lift them over more deserving people!*
Let us earn our place like anyone else.
I love that throughout this entire video the foundational assumption is that you must graduate from college to be successful. These assumptions are made by a generation where that thinking may have been true but in todays world it is not so cut and dry.
Yes I agree some career fields require higher education, Medicine, Engineering, Law….
But does someone really need to go to college to learn to manage a hotel? Does someone really need to go to college to be a journalist?
Or do we need to revert to an apprenticeship model and allow younger people to learn on the job?
You kinda need a bachelors degree to be a journalist
Judging by the quality of news nowadays. Nah, one definitely does not need a degree to be a journalist.
Oh puleez. A degree, even if not in the field you ending up working, is proven to improve hiring chances and salary. That's a slimy argument supporting an egregious SCOTUS ruling, not unlike their gutting the Voters' Rights Act, and a push for crappy paying apprentice positions where thieving employers advocate for less than minimum wage pay scale.
Yeah I wanna be a pilot for the navy
Who cares what you think everybody knows where this Trump is a simple as that one thing is clear the supreme Court does not get the vote on people of color becoming the majority of the population in 20 years and if they want the majority of their population to be uneducated they will pay for that dearly the government will pay for that dearly because people that are educated make a lot more than people that are uneducated so these people are hurting themselves in the long run as the United States of America will generate a lot less money because there won't be able to tax uneducated people as much as educated people and that in turn will hurt America
Nine states in the United States have banned race-based affirmative action: California (1996), Washington (1998, rescinded 2022), Florida (1999), Michigan (2006), Nebraska (2008), Arizona (2010), New Hampshire (2012), Oklahoma (2012), and Idaho (2020).
Ketanji in cold sweats 😓 😳
Finally. REAL EQUALITY decision
How is this quality, have you seen the number of admission rates that have gone up because of affirmative action, it was because colleges couldn’t discriminate. I don’t know if you’re stupid
you guys just dont get it do ya? Affirmative actions help minority students who are behind in the first place because the system is already against the since the very beginning. These minority students would never have a chance to keep up simply the odds are stacked against them.
School conditions? horrible
Textbooks and other supplies? basically non existent because lacks of support and fund
Teachers' qualiity? even in the area where majority of white students attend, the quality is lower than average let alone in these predominantly black families reside.
Merit based? yes it's good if everyone has an equal playing field to begin with
You are 100% RACIST
Maybe do more homework than peaceful protest
This.
@@davorod8509 They've done more homework than you have.
@@spongeintheshoe sorry buddy wrong maybe more homework and less burning looting
REMOVE LEGACY
Get rid of legacy too then I’m down
Duh…🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Some people just don’t cut the mustard. Sorry. Blame your parents not successful people.
I grew up in a small Florida town and went to the exact same schools as the black community, with my elementary and middle schools directly in the black community. As in a number of black students could walk to school. We ALL then graduated to the same high school. And, I was raised in the definition of lower income household. We lived in a neighborhood of ALL mobile homes. So, for my specific life situation, I was considered a lower class student. I had to personally pay my own tuition and unfortunately never completed even an Associate of Arts degree. My point is “Why should students of color have gotten a different acceptance standard than me?” And “Why should students of color get greater financial assistance than me?”
We did homework every day and there weren't any laptop computers available to anyone!
As Thomas Sowell says affirmative action results in a systematic mismatch of students with schools. This results in increased failure rates (no degree), more downgrading of degree plans (chemistry to sociology to ethnic studies), greater failure rates in board exams.
“Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.”
- Martin Luther King Jr.
Like Roberts decided in 2013 that we don't need the voting rights established in 1965 anymore!!!
This is a fantastic ruling! Everyone is considered equal.
I wish that were true.
Well we're a set closer now with this decision. Bravo.
Unless your legacy!
@@umasailor8289 life is all about having the right connections, nothing wrong with that. Ask any successful actor or actress.
@@umasailor8289or ebt welfare section eight from the cradle to the grave
It's sad that instead of elevating public school standards and support, the bar is lowered at the University level. If this is the reason for affirmative action, then I am against it.
Oh the politicians that those districts support DESPERATELY need those public schools to perform poorly. Then they can scream -ism and rake in the votes.
Schools are funded with budget from that city and county.
So if you live in Beverly Hill, school can have pool, air conditioning, etc
If you live in Compton, school can't even fix broken window.
State must distribute all school funds EQUALLY to each school.
So all students have opportunity to apply to college.
This is a states issue. A locality issue even. Property taxes vary by city, county, etc. and to "pool" them all and equally distribute would be hard. It would require a lot of undoing of previous levies and enacting new taxes as well.
"Apparently Students For Fair Admissions v. Harvard doesn't apply to military academies.
I DON'T KNOW WHY." ["Supreme Court Takes Giant Step Toward Color-Blind America"
(The Dershow with Alan Dershowitz -- June 29, 2023, @16:04--16:06)] .
ANSWER:
It takes a special breed to keep America safe.
[S4E16 ("Slide by Wire") @31:18 (Jan. 17, 1999)].
Ever wonder how they get these stats. And how they get them so quick.
I think people have been studying up on things for a while now. They knew this ruling was coming for a long time.
Affirmative action lowered the standards for everybody, and now, nobody understands the trick that it is, not even the courts. "It is a policy that claims, by its own premise, that minorities are not as intelligent as white people", (which is racist in itself as a policy), and that is not true. Minorities should be insulted, but nobody sees this correctly. Those ideas come from the likes of margret sanger, hitler and communism as a whole. So this tool was used to lower the standards of everybody, (how is your math?). Neither the color of the skin, or the type of genitals, has anything to do with the thoughts of the mind. Your mind is like your body. The more we exercise it, the better it gets also, (I learned that myself after almost flunking HS and doing much better in college,---much much better). It is an evil trick, based on a false premise, that is designed to lower the thinking of the entire citizenry,---------------------------------------------and it worked!!!!!!!! Doug in Michigan
There should be no reason why they should get flack for this. This is the purest form of equality.
Spoken like some one whose never been colored or poor
@@josullivan5189🧂😭
@@josullivan5189 I apologize, I was raised and Havana Cuba I didn't have the luxuries of being American poor or American colored. But I did have the luxuries of having my power going out three to five times a day, not having AC, having to be given food rations, and my family living in a broken down communal building. I'm sorry you don't understand what real poverty is.
You haven't got a clue do you, they just said, if you have money, wealth, and privilege you get in, if not you are out of luck. If you think that means equality, you need an education.
@@rwhunt99 In the last 20 years I have never heard a single person claim that affirmative action was to protect from wealthy people sending their kids to school. The media's portraying it right now because they can't just blatantly call it for what it is.
Blacks and Hispanics (which I am) You no longer get preferential treatment. That's true equality.
She didn’t really give him a chance to talk, would this be a discrimination 😂
The parking lot analogy fails to consider the case where every school or majority of schools use affirmative action. That would correspond to not getting that one spot, then driving to another store and there is also a free but unavailable spot, and then another store, and another store…
What they also need a service engineer
Some people seem to have a high opinion of human intelligence by assuming it’s common sense to recruit students based on qualifications and not greed and reputation.
Common sense has nothing to do with how the world actually works. This is naive. Racism and slavery was common sense not so long ago and look where we are still.
Please study your history and learn more about how businesses work. Schools, even Ivy League schools, can be considered businesses with how they manage and use resources to build up their reputation.
Let’s not pretend these schools are truly great at educating but primarily just provide its students connections for guaranteeing high paying and influential jobs due to their reputation alone. That’s really what you pay and commit to get. CZcams videos of classes from those schools are enough to educated leisurely any decent student and it’s free.
This is similar to the tech industry with engineers that worked at Google and are often sought out as founders, for example. You can be an amazing Engineer self taught, minority, older and not educated in Silicon Valley and still be discriminated from high caliber opportunities because some of these business investors come from Ivy Leagues schools and think they are entitled to certain people that share their pedigree. It’s non sense not common sense.
Laws help provide a level of fairness that normally will be disregarded in favor of shortcuts for making a profit and increasing their quotas.try this simple exercise. Next time you see or listen to someone (business, politician, etc) consider where their went to school. If you think they’re intelligent or idiots then wonder if you could do better. Now look up just how much politics and non qualified requirements are really needed to get into these schools. If you or you family wanted to go there, and your not part of the top % you are not getting in. If you are a minority definitely not. Those that did got lucky or likely as part of this affirmative action process.
Then think about how that makes you and maybe your family feel. I am positive you could do better than most of these entitled morons running our country because they got “lucky” to get into these schools, and I question if they even actually learn even a third of the education taught but focused on parties and other events that encouraged networking because that’s obviously more important than actual education.
Think about it and share with others…
There is a difference between race based and considering race as a factor - I think repeatedly using the term race based Skews your perception
There were schools that were exclusive WM that via AA,. WW had to be admitted. Can we hear that explanation.
The thought that the one spot in a university by a minority is ridiculous due to the fact that the majority of the seats that are held by the majority of the applicates. It goes against the equal rights and cival rights act that were implemented in the nineteen sixties. It is despicable.
Children in the Detroit school system might very well be victims of an inadequate school system. But not due to funding. The school system there is funded at almost 50% higher than schools in Florida. This affect students in the Detroit area of all races. The subject should be looked into heavily on the basis of miss use of funds. Not properly allocating money to provide The best education should not only be a criminal act but is an issue of morality.
The "tolerate" left mad
huh?
When are they not?
The left always mad because they're hateful and raciss
@@jillionairess👈🤡😂
Can't tolerate intolerance.
The definition of Affirmative Action must be well defined, it is unconstitutional as decided by the SC. But there is a big hole to that.
It doesn't matter what color the state is, it matters what color the administrators.
Exactly
So we don’t need it but we have to help colleges “navigate the landscape”??? Shouldn’t they have already been bringing in students based solely off merit?? They weren’t and will continue not to if they need help accepting human beings solely on merit, not all of the other tactics used to bring people in. Are we going to stop allowing people to buy their way into school? Are we going to make sure that the student and faculty bodies stay diverse?? Because there’s still racist practices happening in pretty much all Ivy League colleges that aren’t HBCUs….I mean people still go to HBCUs because of discrimination. My brother attended both Harvard and Duke Med and he still faces discrimination to this day. He’s now moving on after being a chief resident and nothing has changed. I faced discrimination at my colleges as well. So what’s the real agenda here?? Because if people are still saying there’s racism and discrimination happening, shouldn’t we be taking that into consideration??
And these Supreme Court judges all have BEEN through school/college. My goodness how old are they to be making these decisions??? When are we going to vote on the retirement age from ALL JOBS, including government, being cut off at a certain point? Shouldn’t it be 65?? Clearly we’re not paying attention to how we’re functioning now as a society while being able to look historically back and to the future for our next generations. I just see a bunch of tearing down and not helping. We’re not thinking, just destroying….what is any of this helping??
Such an excited day for Asian!
Such an exciting day for ALL Americans. Things like affirmative action were keeping even the black community down.
@@brianlevine249 Pathetic reply...
10:21 yall are cherrypickn thr facts and you can hear it in his voice pitch change when he says black
I do not think it will make much difference, most colleges will still want to have a balance of students.
I know, they'll find ways to still be racist and judge people based on skin color not tested achievement.
Balance is good.
@@j4288 yep balance based on on merit and true equality.
@@robmichael8136 And cultural perspectives. Having different voices in the room makes for a richer education.
What is true equality? Are you saying the poor (bottom 1%) have the same educational outcomes as the top 1%? It's a capitalist society it has no 'true" equality.
Even public school districts are divided by the rich and poor and unfortunately blacks and Latinos are usually the poorest in society due to many factors. I guess we should just leave them all in the ghettos of America and never give them a helping hand other than food stamps?
@@j4288 Love the conversation, thank you. True equality will never exist. We can both agree on that. My wife lived in the worst neighborhood in Minneapolis growing up and her family was on full welfare. Capitalism isn't perfect, but it's better then the alternatives.
So do you think it's ok to discriminate against people based on their race so we can have more racial diversity on campus? Maybe we should mandate political diversity on campus as well so we don't have such over representation of progressive vs conservative professors, so that it's a more accurate and diverse representation of the country. Would you be ok with that too?
We need equality under the law, life isn't fair and everyone should understand that, and people shouldn't be denied based off being the wrong skin color over someone else that tests lower, simply because it's ok to pigeon-hole who someone is off of their skin color--Just for color representation sake.
I think your position is very discriminatory.
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This was an excellent broadcast. Really. Packed with so much information and back story and extra nuggets of facts.
Thomas never used the word benefited and Sotomayor really shows that she had low scroes, everyday
teach crt pay reparations take them statues downnnnnnn.
Saint floyd first then move to merit over color of skin
They (6 judges) didn’t take public opinion, but they are the parts that make up that public opinion.
Please rephrase your comment for the sake of clarity.
It took long enough
I just would like to point out that in a few years, the group that got rid of this will need it. Who will be the minority in 10 to 20 years? This decision opens the door for jobs to decide to not hire because of skin color. Congratulations guys! Cheer now and cry with your grandchildren later.
Who do you think will be the majority?
By in fact, AA was racist. Every college or job should have nothing to do with the race of a person but the merit. There are those in every race that work their butts off to get to the better college or job that came from poor backgrounds. Race shouldn't be the qualifying quality that makes it where you get into college or a job. As far as jobs go no application should ever ask what race just job qualifications . You can't ask for equality in one breath while believing that you need special privileges to achieve.
@owllove992 We never care until it happens to us or someone that we love. Never forget this discussion. In a few years you will think about this discussion. The truth is that qualified AA have lost job opportunities because of their names on an application. When they decided to change their names, they receive multiple callbacks from jobs. Proof that jobs don't pick based on qualifications.
@@Happyisland1980 OK you keep saying this but leaving out the part that all the latest studies show that high performing minorities are getting a far higher number of jobs and promotions. While fringe or low performing are not given the chance. And the top reason cited is DEI initiatives. Employers are LESS willing to take a risk on minority candidates because they can't fire, discipline, or bring them on for a trial period the same as non minorities. So all this DEI has created a caste system for minorities.
@brianlevine249 I'm not going to deny that the system is not perfect and I love talking with people that have a different opinion, but I have to go. We can probably finish this discussion another time. I would just like to end today's discussion by saying that people think affirmative action is for black people only. It is for women too. How does this affect us?
Ending a Legacy policy will not change the diversity of colleges.
GOOD FOR WEALTHY STUDENTS ARE NOT BUMPED BY GOVERNMENT FINANCED FUNDING TO SCHOOL GETS CUT OFF
So if Brian Adams and Lee Zao application comes on my table.. with equal qualifications.. I’m definitely going with Brian’s application.🤣
How do you diversify your school without considering race? By double speaking your way to whitewashing it.
You like diversity over actual results.
We should apply your standard to the NBA.
@@robmichael8136 Oh no...don't mention stuff like that. Or diversify teachers. Require schools have 50% male teachers.
@@robmichael8136 You would think that's a great analogy. We're not talking about someone paying you for doing your job, althought that will be next, we're talking about educating a willing populous where recieving that education should not be based on race but had to be, results didn't matter, otherwise AA wouldn't have needed to be created in the first place. Let's not forget, there was a time when blacks were not allowed to learn at all, and that now we are headed back to that.
@@NorbyatManeuvers Nonsense. Some blacks flourish, some whites struggle.
It's actually disrespectful, (and I would argue racist) to tell black people that they aren't capable to flourish without AA. Asians are actually a smaller minority here then blacks and they seem to be getting on just fine.
AA and discrimination for and against others based on race and merit has long run its course.
Surprisingly thorough coverage. Kudos.
schools with minority dominate, more embezzlement of school monies, more violence, more social problems, . less community involvement,
Seems cut and dried. If you take taxpayer money, it's your legal obligation to be color-blind.
I am not a white American I am an American, I am not a color, I am a person with the same rights as any person no more no less. Judge me by the content of my character not the character of someone else, even if its my brother or sister ,mother or father or any great great great great great great great grand dad or grandma.don"t"blame me for what Adam did , God doesn't.
Affirmative action was never a good solution. Fixing public schools is the real challenge and its such complex problem but for sure, it starts in the homes.
Race has impact, so does health, wealth, intelligence, etc and we shouldn’t regulate all that.
Race-based admissions is unfair and illegal. Asian children get hurt and so do white children. I am white and this is offensive. Legacy admission also seems unjust on the surface. But comparing it to other things DOES seem that it is allowable. FOR EXAMPLE: As a business owner, can I offer a discount to prior customers? Can I bump them to the front of the line for repairs? These things seem perfectly legal, though maybe not always wise in business. Not everyone is treated equally - there is a preference for prior customers. Is education a business?
Precedent is for suckers, and judges. The 6 ayatollahs don't worry about such things
And don't be fooled by all the noises they make asking questions in the trial. They made their decisions before they took the case
Finally
Probably a strong sign there won't be any debt relief, oh well, time to get crushed.
Ann Marie absolutely nails it at 14:50
She was so inarticulate, it was a chore trying to understand what she was saying.
Diversity program is different from race-considered admission. Stop mixing up concepts and criticizing people being racist.
Race issues ? when some community learns and accept how a civilised organise society work then and onley then racial issues will be considerate
What are you implying?
Honestly, I think it is time for it to end -- they need to just admit based on academic qualifications period === skin color should not enter into this.
Comparing AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to a parking lot!!! Jesus CHRIST I'M DONE!!! LOL LMAO LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Aren't they supposed to review Laws? Since when do they review society and Make Laws???
What law did they make?
What are you babbling about?
Since the beginning of the country, the concept of "judicial review" has allowed the Supreme Court and other courts to rule on whether or not laws passed by the legislature are constitutional. Specifically, the concept of judicial review was established in 1803 in the case Marbury v. Madison. This gives the court the power to approve or disapprove of certain laws. In this instance, the Supreme Court ruled that affirmative action was unconstitutional because it violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.
Thank god.
Clarence Thomas: "AA for me but not for thee!"
You're not very bright, are you.
and MILLIONS of other blacks who benefited from AA for the past 60 years and MILLIONS of Asians/middle east/Indias who were rejected for their race. Enough with this discrimination
Clarence Thomas went school 40 years ago. Apples and oranges
Clarence Thomas is a successful black man who's hated by raciss people for his skin color. Too much racism in the democrat party. Makes me sick
@@NoCreativeNameGirlwhite women gained the most from affirmative action
The only thing we need to know
Is a still very racist america now has legs right to deny black and brown students based upon our race regardless how good our grades are.
where in the world is there not some modicum of racism, Sicilans sometimes don't think much of Italians and vice-versa for example, and ditto with some areas of France; one must get over their imposed unrealistic concepts...
How quickly Trump's court reversed racial justice.
Trump's court hasn't reversed this ruling. Trump would have to get elected in 2024 then have a challenge to this ruling come up for the SCOTUS under him to reinstall affirmative action and reverse racial justice.
Derp
Great job everyone! The devil was in the details of the admission process. Basically one can score top on every metric but if not Hispanic / Black, and not get admitted. Why is that fair to everyone? I welcome this new era and I hope colleges listen to us and the court.
So untrue
Detroit is a dem run city you geniuses😂😂😂😂😂
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1:17 legacy students bring something very valuable to other better qualified students, superior connections.
Across the higher Ed student body and universities. What is the percentage
Where legacy is the factor for enrollment.
@kamman1374 at the Ivy League? Probably 100%
* Sorry, I misunderstood the question. I don't know what percentage of students are admitted as legacy students, especially how many are admitted with inferior qualifications. But just about 100% of them can be useful to their classmates.
@@joanhuffman2166 there are plenty of other colleges.
@kamman1374 No doubt, but legacy students bring the human connections that really help super high performers to get ahead. If there are not enough of them, the Ivy League school is just a bit less useful to the academic superstars.
Then, Thomas may change his skin if he feels bad about been given the chance to study due to his race. He seems to be very selfish, because he knows that his case of success is not the rule, but the exception.
I deserve things because of the color of my skin
He was not accepted due to AA silly. Do some research and stop being a sheeple. XD
He was nominated to replace thurshall marshall a BLACK supreme court justice. Yes he is. He even admitted to benefit from AA. Me personally opposed to AA.
This black anchor clearly got her job bc of AA