“Consuming pornography does not lead to more sex, it leads to more porn. Much like eating McDonalds everyday will accustom you to food that (although enjoyable) is essentially not food, pornography conditions the consumer to being satisfied with an impression of extreme sex rather than the real.” ― Virginie Despentes
People not being repulsed by their action, that goes for everybody though, the people here as well and the people who say these phrases. People were quoting Einstein for years, never taking into consideration that they might be part of the group. People don't look into the mirror when it comes to ideologies, it has always been like that.
Get prayer. You need DELIVERANCE. It (p**n) will not allow you to go that easily. It takes more much much more than your mere will to give it up. You do not yet realize it but you are bound into it. Straight jacket bound up in it. Get help immediately. Deliverance ministry.
If you went 10/11 days without it, thats something to be celebrated and shows you the capability you have! So happy to hear men are trying to stay away from it! Keep trying and you WILL succeed. Each failure is just one way not to do something @codinginflow
"how far will it go? It depends on how many sins you continue harboring" Holy fuck... It's so true. This is a collective choice, and we matter. One hero can make ten thousand. Cheers bros.
JP sure is smart, but has lost his marbles by now. Too much hardship in his life probably. Seriously, WW3? And people are cyborgs because you can send their pictures around the world now? And he's talking like judgement day is around the corner. xD Just google top 10 failed doomsday predictions.... I think the Jehovas witnesses stopped predicting judgement day 50 years ago because it gave them a bad name since it never came true. xD Too many talk in this apocalyptic manner, just when I look at my yt recommendations, everythings breaking, the internet is breaking, the dating is breaking, society and population growth is breaking, gaming is breaking, film industry is breaking and a lot of content creators and channels are breaking as well. Too little talk about global warming though... JP essentially wants men to man up harder, work harder and compete harder. Essentially judging them by what they do for society. Ironically, like robots.
JP sure is smart, but has lost his marbles by now. Too much hardship in his life probably. Seriously, WW3? And people are cyborgs because you can send their pictures around the world now?
And he's talking like judgement day is around the corner. xD Just google top 10 failed doomsday predictions.... I think the Jehovas witnesses stopped predicting judgement day 50 years ago because it gave them a bad name since it never came true. xD
I disagree for many reasons. One of them is that this’s no new insight. Every civilization mono or polytheist in times of hardship, blamed being not true to (what ever god or gods) they worshipped. This’s a very human trait. “We’re gone off the righteous path “. Another reason is that god tears us apart. Christian God vs Jewish God vs Islam God … etc.
BIG WORDS MAKING ME FEEL STUPID!! Ambivalence, Licentiousness, pathologizes, succubi, ineffable, ect.. After looking up all that, I'd say it was worth it though.
@@vble2337 What parts did you find 'quite stupid?' Personally, I didn't hear much mumbo jumbo talk over nothing. Porn addiction is a real thing and affecting many young men. Also, the amount young attractive women doing OnlyFans is mind boggling.
@@MarsconqueredIt’s a mindset… start saying you want something and start acting towards it. Start focusing your mind elsewhere, start working out, learn new skills, cancel out anything that even brings your mind there. If you don’t think you can take 100% control of your life then that’s what you need to change first, your mindset.
@@deoravin9039you cant take Control of your life 100% . If so, we dont need another….. you could live by your own all the time because you control 100% of your life.
Dont say just do. Say it often. I am taking control of my life. Words have power. Thats how the few control the many. Use your words to shape your reality.
Women here, used to watch p nearly everyday when I was single for 5 years. It definitely gave me instant gratification and afterwards I didn’t feel the need the reach out or have a relationship with a man. It tricks the brain into thinking your satisfied, I think its the root cause of why people are so lonely and stay single. Happy to say I now am in a long term relationship with a active, loving and healthy sex life.
I understood exactly what he is saying. However, I think that all of this "what is he talking about?" are people who really don't want to hear this...for whatever reason.
I agree entirely, however, many are unfamiliar with the references Jordan is using and their deeper meaning, for instance the "whore riding on Babylon" or the Pinocchio themes. And then, they just don't care to think about it and understand.
Spiritual warfare By the way, elephants are being abuse around the world. They need help in southern India. In Kerala Do something meaningful for the world
@@poonyaTara Syria is a civil war. Global and regional powers do directly or indirectly support the parties, but this is nothing new. World War, by definition, should affect the world, or at least a significant portion of the world. None of the conflicts we have today are anywhere near that.
@@tolula9927 When one country gets permission from another country to bomb a third country in Syria, none of which countries is Syria, that isn't a civil war; that's a world war in a microtheater.
Man, I love this guy. He puts everything in such perspective. The truth hurts and then it’ll piss you off you go, Jordan Peterson. I love every word that comes out of your mouth.❤
It's interesting how the hot topic is OnlyFans and Porn. It's not complicated. Porn is not the answer to spiritual fulfillment. If you choose a life of hedonism and nihilism, then it works for you. If you choose a life of spiritual richness and inner peace, then porn is likely not the path. Peace ✌️
BS. I don't need some "spiritual" richness, sounds like you just declaring your ground as the moral highground, putting up a flag between your feet with the words "moral superiority" that you've painted yourself. I have a lot of inner peace even with porn, everything's fine. Or is butting in other people's lives what you mean with spiritual richness?
BS. I don't need some "spiritual" richness, sounds like you just declaring your ground as the moral highground. I have a lot of inner peace even with porn, everything's fine.
Jordan Peterson is a full blown Christian and Christianity in its practice to the fullness (meaning what is actually being taught not what imperfect people say or do) is totally real. Whether Jesus is God or not is beside the point. The point is, do you want to live in a world absent of Christian values or with them. Christianity is real. We can debate whether or not God exists but Christianity does.
I was agnostic once: the perfection of Catholic values is what lead me to believe. But what was eye openning about this internal debate is that I don't have to prove to people that God is real. I just need to show people that life is better not sinning than to sin.
When I get attacked with unbelief thoughts, I always default to what you just said... It's better trying not to sin.. and when you give an effort and wind up sinning anyway, ask for forgiveness and there's always some kind of mercy and forgiveness following it with enough punishment not to destroy you.
There is no downside to believing in God. But there is a downside to not believing in God if there be one. And there certainly is an upside to believing in God.
Christianity falls apart in many ways if there is no God (or no absolute statement by a Christian that God exists). There really is no point to argue one without the other. The apostle Paul points out how sad and pathetic Christians would be if Jesus was not God in flesh, come to save the adopted children of God from their bondage to sin.
@@memorandum740 Right and the asking for forgiveness makes you think about what you've done and what came about from your sin. This in turn will lead to a more successful life. Whether or not God is real. And the realness of having a better life based on the teachings of God is evidence of his realness.
I don't think I've ever seen Mr Peterson look so crestfallen and despairing, resigned even as he does here, talking about where this is all heading, that it's time already to decide which side you're on. We really are this far advanced.
Crime against women and angry young men congregate because they can’t attain real women in society for the same reason so many young women choose to have OF. Nothing happens in a vaccuum. It’s a vicious cycle
i love how Tom isn't trying to talk all the time to let Jordan speak, he doesn't have to insert his ego, he's realized that some wisdom is unfolding before him, his experience as a professional listener really shows
Very wise comment, if you don't mind my saying so. I completely agree. My communication style is a lot like Tom's and it can be a struggle sometimes. The words are out before the chance to fully absorb and reflect kicks in. So it's good to see him doing well with this! Keep it up Tom thanks for the great content.
@@StratMatt777dungeon is so accurate 😂😂😂. When I get on it it's Armageddon, but when I go out in the real world everybody's in the pursuit of happiness. It's actually fascinating.
I've watched a lot of JP over the years...He comes across as unusually frank and somber in his assessment of the state of the world's affairs in this video. I really enjoyed it.
Lust and Love are two poles of the same energy and Lust suffocates love. Love is divine. Love is your only true connection to God. If you develop a relationship from Lust your "Love" will be as shallow as a puddle because you are feeding the animal within you and not nurturing your connection with what is sacred and true.
The following MenTaL Box perspective on the below red pill mindset as it relates to woman and attraction since character development is hardly ever mentioned. Dignified Man vs Undignified Man/Red Pill Mindset: A Dignified man will make his money honestly not hurting anyone in the process, and will not bait outwardly beautiful women into his orbit that will not love him for his character. An Undignified man will make his fortune and power play even if it is unethical and hurts others in the process. He will also keep outwardly beautiful women in his life as trophies, not seeing their inner beauty. He will not see the depth of character in himself or anyone else for that matter.
Peterson being honest for a second about *his* God - what is useful. He should now be honest with people that when he says "god", he doesn't mean what they mean.
It’s a total misconception that the majority of traffic to P sites is from men. Nearly every girl I’ve ever talked to watches it and many are sexually attracted to the women in the videos.
Hey Tom - big fan of the channel Could you have a guest on who is prepared to discuss the entertainment media (such as Drake and Jay-Z) who is supported by government intelligence agencies and the justification of using a technology called v2k to on citizens ignoring all privacy and human rights laws whilst facilitating their profit and propogandising and weaponising their self-imposed authority?
Tom, please take this suggestion as one made in extreme admiration of your inquisitive and excellent mind, BUT... would you kindly remove the backward cap during your interviews? I'm so sorry to have to say this but any man ( in his 40's or older) that presents this image just automatically loses some intellectual credibility. It's so distractive, that it competes with your otherwise great interviews. Keep up the good work that you do, (without the cap PLEASE.)
You can see Tom doesn't want to agree with Jordan. And then goes on saying it's not about what is true it is about what is useful. So even if it is not right. SO the very laws of reality can be bend to your will as long as it is useful and it feels right.
He is close to what I have come to believe. In my opinion, the saddest part of relationships is we have elevated sex to so “sacred” that we can’t communicate about it. It is like money, the thing itself is not an abomination, and worse we don’t learn about it because it’s too sacred. So in private all these physical desires are perceived as sinful and are ridden with guilt and shame. When they actually are the breath of creation. A sexual relationship between partners creates a union that is sacred and cannot exist without the other. For sure it can become something that is only physical and carnal but so can making money. Yet, it can also create a beautiful thing that is bigger than the sum of its parts. For sure, as with everything physical, we have to learn to rein it in, but sex is so hard to discuss that women don’t understand men and men don’t understand women because we are so afraid of becoming headends. Sex isn’t just about not succumbing to temptation and more than nutrition or sleep is. Yes…too much is bad for you, but not enough and, the wrong type will destroy you.
Agree with Dr. Peterson or not, his mind is incredibly interesting. Apparently there is no alternative to "life is suffering and whatever you do, you do to escape suffering". Apparently even if "you choose" to not participate STILL you're doing either you or someone else a disservice. I got incredibly lucky. I don't have to work, I don't interact with others unless is strictly necessary, I don't "actively pursue aquiring a thing or a skill", I am seriously not interested in "trying to figure out what I could become in the future (aka "your maximun potential"). I, for the life of me, cannot even being to be interested in "a future version of me" because it won't even show up in my mind, it doesn't to my mind is just not interesting. I seriously cannot be worried about these things. What I realize I can only do, is to live one day at a time (haven't found any other alternatives) and doing so is absolutely fine with me. STILL it seems that I am also doomed. That even my life looks and feels great it's like NO, I have to be pursuing a thing or a goal or a feeeling or status. Maybe and just maybe whenever this subject shows up in my feed, it's not directed at me? Maybe A LOT of people do actually struggle with these things?
The worst thing I see about porn is it's not even how real encounters are. It's all acted, I want to see real passion between two people not some play act where the women isn't even really into it. However young men don't realise this and many will never realise thinking "I'm bad in bed because I can't perform like they do in screen", or they try to mimic it. I would think that this kind of thing leads to abuse of women in the bedroom. There is a niche for real love making but it's few and far between.
@@santi7470 You do realise I am talking about watching video, not me sitting in a corner watching two people surely? I rarely watch porn but it would be a liar if I said I don't as would 99% of men! However when I do watch it I want to see something real rather than whatever most of the stuff available is.
@@MarkWalmsley yes, yes I do - It is the same thing- so its on film and thats different?? Its vile- again- even animals dont do that. I appreciate your honesty- but , I wonder who introduced you to it- and why.... its an addiction- and a form of abuse....and everyone who denies it- shows it really is an addiction because thats what addicts do Surely you see that if you cant tell your boss, your pastor, your neighbor about it- then its wrong..... "99% of men "-were abused by learned behavior. Sad, but true.
@@santi7470 well I was not abused and since 99% of men watch porn at some point in their life I can only imagine your prediction about the abused watching it is completely made up. You find it vile and while I can understand your sentiment, it's something many do.
Wow! Just wow! Shoulder your cross and walk uphill. "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?" Matthew 16:24-26
I am mindblown by this view on porn. There is an element of fearmongering but somehow it rings true. "mechanical hybrid being able to appear in many places at the same time" What a terrifying take. I am just thankful I conquered my porn and maturbation addiction just 2 months ago.
My recently had a medical procedure that required her to be exposed to 4 medical professionals at the same time. Her humiliation was severe. I realized that modesty is the natural impulse. What process does a girl go through to break that down to the point of doing porn? Scary and sad.
here me out: Jordan B. Peterson could be a rapper. ie "a woman doesn't appear in a million different places at the same time; whatever that is that isn't a woman" 🤯🤯 bars 🤯🤯
11:20 wish there were more people listening to Jordan Peterson so we become less cynical and lift ourselves to a degree that surpasses all expectations.
YOOOO the joy on JP'S face when he connects the bathwater thing back to the whore of babylon. when you connect things back to the Bible over and over and over again, it's like God is giving you a little low-key pat on the back - as if " u know". and we know. we know.
Neither Pinocchio nor Cinderella are Disneys. They just did an interpretation of them. Pinocchio is Carlo Collodi and Cinderella or the little glass slipper is told many times over by many authors including but not limited to the brothers Grimm and Charles Perrault.
My experience is completely anecdotal but most of the women I know myself included are not really into sex and could easily live without it. Sex is more of a means to an end. If you want a partner it’s an unavoidable must. That’s all. And based off the huge amounts of dead bedroom marriages out there I think that number of women who would happily live without sex is quite high.
I think that's why sexlessness amongst men is going to increase. As women gain more financial independence from men the need for them in women's lives diminishes. Sex is not something women persue from men it's resources. With men it's the opposite, they need sex. That's why we're in an era of mating miss match. Btw, ever notice why men shame women with degreed and their earning potential... this is why!
What if we offer what we have the best of ourselves and we are rejected by everyone despite constant trying? What if we are like Abel not Cain but it is rejected Abel? What should we do in that situation to not become bitter and monstrous ? What if our offering was the best we could offer and it was not enough - in the eyes of family, society, authorities it was never enough. :( And then we ended lonely and rejected by some for being rejected by others ? We wanted to share, to create, to build, but no one wanted to do it with us together. What then? What should be the redemption of rejected Abel? Does Abel need redemption at all ? For what? For being misjudged, ridiculed, and rejected?
Obviously, Tom didn't listen to any of Jordan Pearson's advice because that last episode with his wife on contradicted everything Jordan is saying here.
this is absolute gold... great symbolism, reminds me why the Bible is the WORD of GOD and the greatest book ever!.. similar symbolism have been used in the series "American Gods" ...
Twice in the biblical gospels Jesus referred to the flood. Dr. Peterson is echoing his words here as Jesus pointed out the repeating of the cycles of destruction (flood). This is just scratching the surface of biblical wisdom. "For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." Matthew 24:37-39
“Consuming pornography does not lead to more sex, it leads to more porn. Much like eating McDonalds everyday will accustom you to food that (although enjoyable) is essentially not food, pornography conditions the consumer to being satisfied with an impression of extreme sex rather than the real.” ― Virginie Despentes
Porn is terrible for young men .. cooks brains 🧠
Real sex wasn't that great either. Comes attached with too much crazy.
@@MrBigbangbuzzCoke and porn
Some femoid eh
No stds, no ruined life. Porn is great, and there are far worse addictions.
Unfortunately we live in times of people having a seared conscious - nothing bothers people and they are not repulsed by their actions
Basically no shame nowadays
I think you meant "conscience" not "conscious".
People not being repulsed by their action, that goes for everybody though, the people here as well and the people who say these phrases.
People were quoting Einstein for years, never taking into consideration that they might be part of the group. People don't look into the mirror when it comes to ideologies, it has always been like that.
Tom has never been so continually perplexed on his podcast.😂
To be fair, this is a bit out of Tom's depth
Tom is far too smart, but he's run out of legitimate guests having con-artists like Peterson psychobabbluing dueling on his washed up self.
@@byronfoppola8676 both shit.
It was a mistake for Tom to get that dumb idiot into the show!
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"The death of the future." - that should scare the shit out of all of us.
Fear is how rightwing celebrities like JP make a living
So that you live in constant fear! That's gonna be great for your hippocampus...
nope. lol
When I saw this interview about a week ago, it actually convinced me to quit p04n
Me too! Are you still going?
@@bartniem9 I just relapses but I'm trying again
Get prayer. You need DELIVERANCE. It (p**n) will not allow you to go that easily. It takes more much much more than your mere will to give it up. You do not yet realize it but you are bound into it. Straight jacket bound up in it. Get help immediately. Deliverance ministry.
@Al19827 "just ___ what you like" is the path to misery
If you went 10/11 days without it, thats something to be celebrated and shows you the capability you have! So happy to hear men are trying to stay away from it! Keep trying and you WILL succeed. Each failure is just one way not to do something @codinginflow
"how far will it go? It depends on how many sins you continue harboring"
Holy fuck... It's so true. This is a collective choice, and we matter. One hero can make ten thousand. Cheers bros.
Some of the best material I've heard JP speak.
Pretty unique.
jazz mags are better material
JP sure is smart, but has lost his marbles by now. Too much hardship in his life probably. Seriously, WW3? And people are cyborgs because you can send their pictures around the world now?
And he's talking like judgement day is around the corner. xD Just google top 10 failed doomsday predictions.... I think the Jehovas witnesses stopped predicting judgement day 50 years ago because it gave them a bad name since it never came true. xD
Too many talk in this apocalyptic manner, just when I look at my yt recommendations, everythings breaking, the internet is breaking, the dating is breaking, society and population growth is breaking, gaming is breaking, film industry is breaking and a lot of content creators and channels are breaking as well. Too little talk about global warming though...
JP essentially wants men to man up harder, work harder and compete harder. Essentially judging them by what they do for society. Ironically, like robots.
JP sure is smart, but has lost his marbles by now. Too much hardship in his life probably. Seriously, WW3? And people are cyborgs because you can send their pictures around the world now?
And he's talking like judgement day is around the corner. xD Just google top 10 failed doomsday predictions.... I think the Jehovas witnesses stopped predicting judgement day 50 years ago because it gave them a bad name since it never came true. xD
It's worse than that - the sexual whim is no longer the paramount concern of the individual - it is now the paramount driver of the entire culture.
During the pandemic, a thought came to me that I still believe - “The further we get away from God, the further we get away from each other.”
praise Korean Jesus 🙏🏼🇰🇷✝️
Very insightful and resonates with my experience, thank you for sharing
Religion divides people.
Absolutely agree.
I disagree for many reasons. One of them is that this’s no new insight. Every civilization mono or polytheist in times of hardship, blamed being not true to (what ever god or gods) they worshipped. This’s a very human trait. “We’re gone off the righteous path “. Another reason is that god tears us apart. Christian God vs Jewish God vs Islam God … etc.
BIG WORDS MAKING ME FEEL STUPID!! Ambivalence, Licentiousness, pathologizes, succubi, ineffable, ect.. After looking up all that, I'd say it was worth it though.
Yeah, these guys talking WAY over my head.
Great words to know for sure nice job looking them up.
Actually it's etc not ect😉
So much mumbo jumbo talk over nothing. Instead of sounding smart he sounds quite stupid at the same time.
@@vble2337 What parts did you find 'quite stupid?' Personally, I didn't hear much mumbo jumbo talk over nothing. Porn addiction is a real thing and affecting many young men. Also, the amount young attractive women doing OnlyFans is mind boggling.
I definitely need to take control of my life 100%
You'll say that forever... It's never going to change and you know it
@@MarsconqueredIt’s a mindset… start saying you want something and start acting towards it. Start focusing your mind elsewhere, start working out, learn new skills, cancel out anything that even brings your mind there. If you don’t think you can take 100% control of your life then that’s what you need to change first, your mindset.
@@deoravin9039you cant take Control of your life 100% . If so, we dont need another….. you could live by your own all the time because you control 100% of your life.
Do it!
Dont say just do. Say it often. I am taking control of my life. Words have power. Thats how the few control the many. Use your words to shape your reality.
Pornography and Only Fans has created a society of predators!
Agree
Women here, used to watch p nearly everyday when I was single for 5 years. It definitely gave me instant gratification and afterwards I didn’t feel the need the reach out or have a relationship with a man. It tricks the brain into thinking your satisfied, I think its the root cause of why people are so lonely and stay single. Happy to say I now am in a long term relationship with a active, loving and healthy sex life.
Jordan is a truly biblical dude. He should be standing on top of a mountain with a staff giving out commandments.
I understood exactly what he is saying. However, I think that all of this "what is he talking about?" are people who really don't want to hear this...for whatever reason.
I agree entirely, however, many are unfamiliar with the references Jordan is using and their deeper meaning, for instance the "whore riding on Babylon" or the Pinocchio themes. And then, they just don't care to think about it and understand.
They don’t want to hear it because of their porn addiction.
out of context it's pretty hilarious
People who love evil will absolutely hate Peterson.
what did you understand.. plz help me understand too.
"We're already in World War III." Thank you for saying it.
Spiritual warfare
By the way, elephants are being abuse around the world. They need help in southern India. In Kerala
Do something meaningful for the world
What WW III? The overwhelming majority of the world lives in relative peace.
@@tolula9927 What WW III? Syria
@@poonyaTara Syria is a civil war. Global and regional powers do directly or indirectly support the parties, but this is nothing new.
World War, by definition, should affect the world, or at least a significant portion of the world. None of the conflicts we have today are anywhere near that.
@@tolula9927 When one country gets permission from another country to bomb a third country in Syria, none of which countries is Syria, that isn't a civil war; that's a world war in a microtheater.
Man, I love this guy. He puts everything in such perspective. The truth hurts and then it’ll piss you off you go, Jordan Peterson. I love every word that comes out of your mouth.❤
It's interesting how the hot topic is OnlyFans and Porn.
It's not complicated. Porn is not the answer to spiritual fulfillment.
If you choose a life of hedonism and nihilism, then it works for you.
If you choose a life of spiritual richness and inner peace, then porn is likely not the path.
Peace ✌️
Porn is killing families. Marriages. It’s addictive.
"Likely"?? Dude, it shouldn't exist. Don't be beta.
BS. I don't need some "spiritual" richness, sounds like you just declaring your ground as the moral highground, putting up a flag between your feet with the words "moral superiority" that you've painted yourself.
I have a lot of inner peace even with porn, everything's fine. Or is butting in other people's lives what you mean with spiritual richness?
BS. I don't need some "spiritual" richness, sounds like you just declaring your ground as the moral highground. I have a lot of inner peace even with porn, everything's fine.
Maybe butting in other people's lives is what you mean with spiritual richness?
Jordan Peterson is a full blown Christian and Christianity in its practice to the fullness (meaning what is actually being taught not what imperfect people say or do) is totally real. Whether Jesus is God or not is beside the point. The point is, do you want to live in a world absent of Christian values or with them. Christianity is real. We can debate whether or not God exists but Christianity does.
I was agnostic once: the perfection of Catholic values is what lead me to believe. But what was eye openning about this internal debate is that I don't have to prove to people that God is real. I just need to show people that life is better not sinning than to sin.
When I get attacked with unbelief thoughts, I always default to what you just said... It's better trying not to sin.. and when you give an effort and wind up sinning anyway, ask for forgiveness and there's always some kind of mercy and forgiveness following it with enough punishment not to destroy you.
There is no downside to believing in God. But there is a downside to not believing in God if there be one.
And there certainly is an upside to believing in God.
Christianity falls apart in many ways if there is no God (or no absolute statement by a Christian that God exists). There really is no point to argue one without the other. The apostle Paul points out how sad and pathetic Christians would be if Jesus was not God in flesh, come to save the adopted children of God from their bondage to sin.
@@memorandum740 Right and the asking for forgiveness makes you think about what you've done and what came about from your sin. This in turn will lead to a more successful life. Whether or not God is real. And the realness of having a better life based on the teachings of God is evidence of his realness.
I don't think I've ever seen Mr Peterson look so crestfallen and despairing, resigned even as he does here, talking about where this is all heading, that it's time already to decide which side you're on. We really are this far advanced.
Crime against women and angry young men congregate because they can’t attain real women in society for the same reason so many young women choose to have OF. Nothing happens in a vaccuum. It’s a vicious cycle
Most honest thing I have ever heard anywhere at anytime!
Amen 🙏
I like humble and careful Dr. Peterson, but sometimes I also like careless and sinister Dr. Peterson. 😂😂
I laughed out loud! I too love it when he’s occasionally “on one.” Lmao
It's the infamous Peter Jordanson he's becoming.
Like in the Fight Club
That’s what makes him so interesting
me too. lets be in awe ov such an intelect. im thankful that he has chosen to help mankind ( so far as i cantell)
@@ProxyAuthenticationRequired Let's band together and buy him an evil villain's cat so that he has a companion on these interviews.
I so appreciate you digging deep, Tom!!
i love how Tom isn't trying to talk all the time to let Jordan speak,
he doesn't have to insert his ego,
he's realized that some wisdom is unfolding before him,
his experience as a professional listener really shows
This is a nice comment to see because he often struggles to do that and it's really annoying lol. glad he's getting better!
Something George Janko needs to learn.
The fact that inserting ego is relevant to this poster is a major problem with humanity
Very wise comment, if you don't mind my saying so. I completely agree. My communication style is a lot like Tom's and it can be a struggle sometimes. The words are out before the chance to fully absorb and reflect kicks in. So it's good to see him doing well with this! Keep it up Tom thanks for the great content.
Tom is really mediocre though. Deer in the headlights look most of the time
That was freaking awesome!! .. going for the whole interview.
Did you go?
Is social media the tower of babble?
Social media is the dungeon where you go and attach your own ball and chain... because you think that you like it.
@@StratMatt777dungeon is so accurate 😂😂😂. When I get on it it's Armageddon, but when I go out in the real world everybody's in the pursuit of happiness. It's actually fascinating.
@@StratMatt777and I hardly go on it I might add, unless you count CZcams as social media
@@memorandum740 Which one is it MOU with Russian asylum
No, the Tower of Babbel is Globalism. The Global State by whose creation all nation-states are dissolved. Klaus Schwabb, pods, bugs.
Jordan spitting truth in the last two mins. Holy shit.
glad to hear that you're exploring spirituality!
"we all bear the world on our shoulders" yet another poetic remark from him. it'll be in my head for a week.
I've watched a lot of JP over the years...He comes across as unusually frank and somber in his assessment of the state of the world's affairs in this video. I really enjoyed it.
JP in full apocalyptic mode.
9:08 Jordon Peterson is a breath of fresh air amidst the stank.
10:20 Redemption is a matter of individual determination.
I love this man.
What wise words, unbelievable.
What a great clip!
Lust and Love are two poles of the same energy and Lust suffocates love. Love is divine. Love is your only true connection to God. If you develop a relationship from Lust your "Love" will be as shallow as a puddle because you are feeding the animal within you and not nurturing your connection with what is sacred and true.
The host is very gracious…great questions and great patience with a great guest. The synergism works well
Very interesting conversation!
The following MenTaL Box perspective on the below red pill mindset as it relates to woman and attraction since character development is hardly ever mentioned.
Dignified Man vs Undignified Man/Red Pill Mindset:
A Dignified man will make his money honestly not hurting anyone in the process, and will not bait outwardly beautiful women into his orbit that will not love him for his character.
An Undignified man will make his fortune and power play even if it is unethical and hurts others in the process. He will also keep outwardly beautiful women in his life as trophies, not seeing their inner beauty. He will not see the depth of character in himself or anyone else for that matter.
Love listening to such wisdom. Great job 👏 with the commentary Tom.
This is incredible
Loving this!!
10:56 "we all bear the world on our shoulders" man that one hit hard
Peterson being honest for a second about *his* God - what is useful.
He should now be honest with people that when he says "god", he doesn't mean what they mean.
Just when I thought I'd heard enough JBP to last a long time, another banger!
Jordan really knows how to express the truth right I my/our face.
That’s a fact I opened a new fb account yesterday the amount of porn that has friend requested me is ridiculous.. like omg..
It’s a total misconception that the majority of traffic to P sites is from men. Nearly every girl I’ve ever talked to watches it and many are sexually attracted to the women in the videos.
I suspect they are behind the "step bro/step sis" category now dominating every site
I love to hear " the wrong with pure intentions to set up free to the right " Amen to that. We need people like him.🙏🙏🙏
Hey Tom - big fan of the channel
Could you have a guest on who is prepared to discuss the entertainment media (such as Drake and Jay-Z) who is supported by government intelligence agencies and the justification of using a technology called v2k to on citizens ignoring all privacy and human rights laws whilst facilitating their profit and propogandising and weaponising their self-imposed authority?
Wow but reality
Tom, please take this suggestion as one made in extreme admiration of your inquisitive and excellent mind, BUT... would you kindly remove the backward cap during your interviews? I'm so sorry to have to say this but any man ( in his 40's or older) that presents this image just automatically loses some intellectual credibility. It's so distractive, that it competes with your otherwise great interviews. Keep up the good work that you do, (without the cap PLEASE.)
Thought that was a do-rag 😂
haha you're focusing on the wrong things
DEEP
You can see Tom doesn't want to agree with Jordan. And then goes on saying it's not about what is true it is about what is useful. So even if it is not right. SO the very laws of reality can be bend to your will as long as it is useful and it feels right.
Wheres the full interview?
link in the description ;)
Fascinating
There's a passage in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" about "Quality" that speaks to me of God.
Such a great book. I did a Quality course as part of my manufacturing engineering degree and it was the best class I ever took.
A good 'fictional' book!
Why is this guy Tom being pushed so hard on youtube? Seriously never heard of this guy and yet constantly gets recommended.
He is close to what I have come to believe. In my opinion, the saddest part of relationships is we have elevated sex to so “sacred” that we can’t communicate about it. It is like money, the thing itself is not an abomination, and worse we don’t learn about it because it’s too sacred. So in private all these physical desires are perceived as sinful and are ridden with guilt and shame. When they actually are the breath of creation. A sexual relationship between partners creates a union that is sacred and cannot exist without the other. For sure it can become something that is only physical and carnal but so can making money. Yet, it can also create a beautiful thing that is bigger than the sum of its parts. For sure, as with everything physical, we have to learn to rein it in, but sex is so hard to discuss that women don’t understand men and men don’t understand women because we are so afraid of becoming headends. Sex isn’t just about not succumbing to temptation and more than nutrition or sleep is. Yes…too much is bad for you, but not enough and, the wrong type will destroy you.
My observations from socializing back in the 80s with internationals is that we as Americans have a lot of hangups / problems with sex
This was great Jordan 😂
'check out the full powerful episode here' (left side flashes) then there's nothing clickable.
why?
Pop quiz: which is a public health crisis: a) porn b) stupidity
Point falls under stupidity so both lol
the dark side can be so tempting. What makes you a man is acknowledging that but doing what is right and what scares you the most.
Agree with Dr. Peterson or not, his mind is incredibly interesting. Apparently there is no alternative to "life is suffering and whatever you do, you do to escape suffering". Apparently even if "you choose" to not participate STILL you're doing either you or someone else a disservice. I got incredibly lucky. I don't have to work, I don't interact with others unless is strictly necessary, I don't "actively pursue aquiring a thing or a skill", I am seriously not interested in "trying to figure out what I could become in the future (aka "your maximun potential"). I, for the life of me, cannot even being to be interested in "a future version of me" because it won't even show up in my mind, it doesn't to my mind is just not interesting. I seriously cannot be worried about these things. What I realize I can only do, is to live one day at a time (haven't found any other alternatives) and doing so is absolutely fine with me. STILL it seems that I am also doomed. That even my life looks and feels great it's like NO, I have to be pursuing a thing or a goal or a feeeling or status. Maybe and just maybe whenever this subject shows up in my feed, it's not directed at me? Maybe A LOT of people do actually struggle with these things?
Wonderful.
Love Jordan
The worst thing I see about porn is it's not even how real encounters are. It's all acted, I want to see real passion between two people not some play act where the women isn't even really into it.
However young men don't realise this and many will never realise thinking "I'm bad in bed because I can't perform like they do in screen", or they try to mimic it. I would think that this kind of thing leads to abuse of women in the bedroom.
There is a niche for real love making but it's few and far between.
why do you want to watch people? Even animals dont watch. Passion? HAVE passion with a person- watching is still an addiction.
@@santi7470 You do realise I am talking about watching video, not me sitting in a corner watching two people surely? I rarely watch porn but it would be a liar if I said I don't as would 99% of men! However when I do watch it I want to see something real rather than whatever most of the stuff available is.
@@MarkWalmsley yes, yes I do - It is the same thing- so its on film and thats different?? Its vile- again- even animals dont do that. I appreciate your honesty- but , I wonder who introduced you to it- and why.... its an addiction- and a form of abuse....and everyone who denies it- shows it really is an addiction because thats what addicts do Surely you see that if you cant tell your boss, your pastor, your neighbor about it- then its wrong..... "99% of men "-were abused by learned behavior. Sad, but true.
@@santi7470 well I was not abused and since 99% of men watch porn at some point in their life I can only imagine your prediction about the abused watching it is completely made up. You find it vile and while I can understand your sentiment, it's something many do.
I completely understand what you're saying but nobody would watch that. It's too personal
Wow! Just wow! Shoulder your cross and walk uphill.
"Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?" Matthew 16:24-26
"look at me!"
*"no."*
I am mindblown by this view on porn. There is an element of fearmongering but somehow it rings true. "mechanical hybrid being able to appear in many places at the same time" What a terrifying take. I am just thankful I conquered my porn and maturbation addiction just 2 months ago.
My recently had a medical procedure that required her to be exposed to 4 medical professionals at the same time. Her humiliation was severe. I realized that modesty is the natural impulse. What process does a girl go through to break that down to the point of doing porn? Scary and sad.
I agree!
Why not ask what process men go through that makes them watch porn? There would be no porn without the demand for it.
Wise man.
That was pretty damn good.
I am my own worst enemy. Blessed be the Peacemakers.
Right out of Proverbs 7 and the last 7 verses in Ecclesiastes 7, portrayed perfectly in the movie THE HOUSE OF GUCCI
here me out: Jordan B. Peterson could be a rapper. ie "a woman doesn't appear in a million different places at the same time; whatever that is that isn't a woman" 🤯🤯 bars 🤯🤯
It's funny, I couldn't understand what they are saying but I do understand them 100%
8:55 trust this words please, he ain't kidding.
"tell me exactly what that means when you break it down"......in other words, "I have no idea what you're talking about right now"
2:31 "A woman doesn't appear in a million places at the same time."
In how many places, in his opinion, does HE appear at the same time?
We are not experiencing him as a sexual being.
That is reserved for his wife alone.
@@ginarenee1625 speak for yourself
wondering why Tom do not have whole episode on his side.
11:20 wish there were more people listening to Jordan Peterson so we become less cynical and lift ourselves to a degree that surpasses all expectations.
Incredible.
I'm not watching porn darling..." I'm looking at it through a research lens "...😂
WTF? Ol’ Jordan was in full crazy rant mode. Talk about a word salad
YOOOO the joy on JP'S face when he connects the bathwater thing back to the whore of babylon. when you connect things back to the Bible over and over and over again, it's like God is giving you a little low-key pat on the back - as if " u know".
and we know.
we know.
This guy goes from good insight, to absolute quackery in seconds.
That's why I can't fully commit to his messages tbh
Ever read the book WILD AT HEART by John Eldredge
I love when Jordan Peterson aggressively compares things to Disney movies lol.
"THIS IS THE WALE IN PINOCCHIO!"
"THIS IS THE PRINCESS IN CINDERALLA!"
Neither Pinocchio nor Cinderella are Disneys. They just did an interpretation of them. Pinocchio is Carlo Collodi and Cinderella or the little glass slipper is told many times over by many authors including but not limited to the brothers Grimm and Charles Perrault.
I would have thought higher then 35% women are more secretive.
My experience is completely anecdotal but most of the women I know myself included are not really into sex and could easily live without it. Sex is more of a means to an end. If you want a partner it’s an unavoidable must. That’s all. And based off the huge amounts of dead bedroom marriages out there I think that number of women who would happily live without sex is quite high.
I think that's why sexlessness amongst men is going to increase. As women gain more financial independence from men the need for them in women's lives diminishes. Sex is not something women persue from men it's resources. With men it's the opposite, they need sex. That's why we're in an era of mating miss match. Btw, ever notice why men shame women with degreed and their earning potential... this is why!
In the dating game, as soon as we leave, memories slowly fade, and new flirtations arise.
The time is of essesnce, my dear co comentater
Thank you.
Is that paint or colored tape?
Dr J.P snapping here!!!! DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if we offer what we have the best of ourselves and we are rejected by everyone despite constant trying? What if we are like Abel not Cain but it is rejected Abel? What should we do in that situation to not become bitter and monstrous ? What if our offering was the best we could offer and it was not enough - in the eyes of family, society, authorities it was never enough. :( And then we ended lonely and rejected by some for being rejected by others ? We wanted to share, to create, to build, but no one wanted to do it with us together. What then? What should be the redemption of rejected Abel? Does Abel need redemption at all ? For what? For being misjudged, ridiculed, and rejected?
When they talked about values I realised that values are that what gives life sense and sense is that what produces values :)
Obviously, Tom didn't listen to any of Jordan Pearson's advice because that last episode with his wife on contradicted everything Jordan is saying here.
Thank you
this is absolute gold... great symbolism, reminds me why the Bible is the WORD of GOD and the greatest book ever!..
similar symbolism have been used in the series "American Gods" ...
Twice in the biblical gospels Jesus referred to the flood. Dr. Peterson is echoing his words here as Jesus pointed out the repeating of the cycles of destruction (flood). This is just scratching the surface of biblical wisdom. "For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." Matthew 24:37-39