I'm English and I never heard if it until I stumbled on it just now. Interesting that foreigners are being taught English literature that they don't teach to English kids as much. Everyone at my school can list all the american books they got us to read.
@@jakemcnamee9417yeah it interesting, am from Zambia and in secondary school, I remember reading and analyzing ibsens play in literature class, I guess some commonwealth countries modeled their education based on the English model, it is also evident in grammar and spelling for instance I spell color as colour. It’s goes beyond education too, for instance Zambia laws are heavily influenced by English law. I guess such adoptions are expected from former colonies
I did this too back in high school. I feel this play tells a better story and I wish I saw it before the national exams but oh well. It's exciting to see it years later from a different perspective.
'Baikie' is actually the historic town of Kirkcudbright in Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland The opening scene of the Wickerman was also filmed here My parents live there so I recognise the landmarks
I wish the 1990 PBS-TV version (with John Glover and George Grizzard) would show up on YT. It was brilliant. I can still hear Glover's key line in my head.
always will be until we take power back from a few wealthy elites. they have their order to things and cant have anyone rocking the boat, they allow small changes to the law to loosen the reigns but the noose is always there ready to hang you, and it doesnt need much to cancel you from modern society, an arrest, bad credit.. those of us who fight for better laws are criminalised, while the real criminals are allowed to run free, the ones who will rob you with a smile on their face, they are the real threat but they demonise the people willing to speak up and be the nail that gets hammered down. Deru Kui Wa Uterero, is an old Japanese proverb the nail that sticks up gets hammered down, its meant to be a warning to stay in line or you might get your head whacked, we have had 2 world wars because one German (Ignaz Semmelweis) stood up against the natural order, the BMJ was newly formed and being embarrassed already, the ruling elites in the UK had to make an example out of Germany and we still feel the effects today, they want their laws and rules around the world, their history, but its all there buried just beneath the surface if you can read between some lines and take some assumptions based on how you would expect them to react. 99% of laws exist to control you so you aren't your politicians neighbour. We have blinders on that society craves its own controllers, but we would do perfectly fine without them telling us who to hate. They learn nothing from the past, constantly making the same mistakes, thinking a few more laws is all it takes and we will have the perfect human being coming out of society, all ready to work and be farmed for taxes, like all apex predators. Those who dont fall in line get drugged, those who the drugs dont work on get caged, but everyone who breaks from "society" and the cult is a threat to their natural order to thing where they have a nice cozy life of luxury, while the people rot in poverty, because the pyramid scheme that is the world bank needs to keep creating more poor people to feed the system. If we were all millionaires then it would be an economy like Russia when the soviet union collapsed, hyper inflation is what they would call it, not everyone being wealthy.. we just dont have enough nice things to all be able to enjoy them, so they keep it all to themselves.
An interesting programme just recently on The BBC "Free Thinking". It deals in the main with this play and 'The Master Builder'. One of the participants, Kåre Conradi makes the point: "If he was alive now he would have written about all the subjects we don't dare to talk about". He then later goes on to positively to reference Greta Thunberg. Two things about that. Is Greta Thunberg somebody who would have discovered with is noticed by the Chemist here? Is this (and other allusions in the programme) an example of what people don't dare to talk about? Now, I'm not going to say because Ms. Thunberg is not an expert and because the issue of climate crisis is actually far from being something we scared to talk about, that he and the others on the show are in agreement with Ms. Thunberg's stance, that they are wrong - indeed, they may well be right. But what we have in this show (which in many ways I found brilliant and helpful and well worth listening to) is a prime example of how some can use people we have deified from the past to back up their own beliefs. Much better, I believe, when discussing 'what we don't care to talk about' are for example: The Wuhan lab, Lock Downs Masks Vaccinations, Cholesterol and statins Whether 3 Professors from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford should be treated as 'fringe'. I'm not going to argue one way or the other regarding this list (though, of course, one can reasonably guess where I stand on most or all of them). But I do think it's simplistic to suggest that just because this is, as one other participant on the show states 'The first eco drama' that therefore the goodies will today be those on that side of the fence. One interesting fact. Graham Stringer MP, is a long standing member of the House's Science and Technology Committee. I believe he is the only member in his time to have been an actual scientist. He has a science degree and was a practitioner prior to going into politics. Regarding the issue of a climate crisis, he is a sceptic. Strangely, he is a chemist.
@@UserUser-zc6fx I think I see your point, but would you not agree that science is evidence-based, whereas philosophy is not? And that science is nuts and bolts, while philosophy is abstract? BTW, your comments have reminded me that when I took Logic 101 in college, I was surprised to learn that it was part of the Philosophy curriculum. Which I think aligns with part of the point you are making.
@@CZcamsallowedmynametobestolen Real philosophy is more about understanding truths that generally speaking the intellect is not equipped to grasp, using deeper aspects of our mind and consciousness than science in its current form could ever hope to fathom.
This play is very much accurate in terms of what we now experience with the "green revolution", the shift to so called green energy, which will make the world a better place. In some ways the problem is now turned on it's head, as in the play the doctor wanted to save the people from pollution, but powerful forces in society denied him to stop the pollution. Now we have forces in society that want to create a communist economy, force a shift to use electricity instead of fossil fuels. Fair enough more electricity is good, but such a sudden and fast revolution will probably ruin our economies. Also to use enormous amount of rare metals in car batteries and other batteries to store wind and solar power is VERY damaging too. The best solution would have been to gradually build out nuclear energy to gradually reduce the use of gas and oil. But no, it's happening so fats it will ruin us. They blame the inflation on the war, totally ignoring that the majority of the problem is the green shift.
Use the search terms "An Enemy of the People trump" and make the correlation. In order to move forward, one must know the past. Here is the past speaking to the future. Remember the PFAS or "forever chemicals" ? How many people died? Who was responsible? What was the end result?
Here in Kenya we did this book in high school and it even came in the final exams,,,I am here for the memories
Me too
Set book. It was compulsory
I'm English and I never heard if it until I stumbled on it just now.
Interesting that foreigners are being taught English literature that they don't teach to English kids as much.
Everyone at my school can list all the american books they got us to read.
@@jakemcnamee9417yeah it interesting, am from Zambia and in secondary school, I remember reading and analyzing ibsens play in literature class, I guess some commonwealth countries modeled their education based on the English model, it is also evident in grammar and spelling for instance I spell color as colour. It’s goes beyond education too, for instance Zambia laws are heavily influenced by English law. I guess such adoptions are expected from former colonies
I did this too back in high school. I feel this play tells a better story and I wish I saw it before the national exams but oh well. It's exciting to see it years later from a different perspective.
'Baikie' is actually the historic town of Kirkcudbright in Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland
The opening scene of the Wickerman was also filmed here
My parents live there so I recognise the landmarks
Brilliant. I especially liked the young children with their hands over their ears in the crowd scene on the village green.
I wish the 1990 PBS-TV version (with John Glover and George Grizzard) would show up on YT. It was brilliant. I can still hear Glover's key line in my head.
I feel this feels very similar what we are going through right now
always will be until we take power back from a few wealthy elites. they have their order to things and cant have anyone rocking the boat, they allow small changes to the law to loosen the reigns but the noose is always there ready to hang you, and it doesnt need much to cancel you from modern society, an arrest, bad credit.. those of us who fight for better laws are criminalised, while the real criminals are allowed to run free, the ones who will rob you with a smile on their face, they are the real threat but they demonise the people willing to speak up and be the nail that gets hammered down.
Deru Kui Wa Uterero, is an old Japanese proverb the nail that sticks up gets hammered down, its meant to be a warning to stay in line or you might get your head whacked, we have had 2 world wars because one German (Ignaz Semmelweis) stood up against the natural order, the BMJ was newly formed and being embarrassed already, the ruling elites in the UK had to make an example out of Germany and we still feel the effects today, they want their laws and rules around the world, their history, but its all there buried just beneath the surface if you can read between some lines and take some assumptions based on how you would expect them to react.
99% of laws exist to control you so you aren't your politicians neighbour. We have blinders on that society craves its own controllers, but we would do perfectly fine without them telling us who to hate. They learn nothing from the past, constantly making the same mistakes, thinking a few more laws is all it takes and we will have the perfect human being coming out of society, all ready to work and be farmed for taxes, like all apex predators. Those who dont fall in line get drugged, those who the drugs dont work on get caged, but everyone who breaks from "society" and the cult is a threat to their natural order to thing where they have a nice cozy life of luxury, while the people rot in poverty, because the pyramid scheme that is the world bank needs to keep creating more poor people to feed the system. If we were all millionaires then it would be an economy like Russia when the soviet union collapsed, hyper inflation is what they would call it, not everyone being wealthy.. we just dont have enough nice things to all be able to enjoy them, so they keep it all to themselves.
thx so much for uploading this :)
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Greyfriars and St Mary's Church
My father is currently the Rector there
All times play ! Dedication,courtesy to the auther Henrik Ibsen ❤.
The twilight of the guildsman in Scandinavian tradition. I find it fascinating.
Could be adapted todays covid pandemy..
I am studying the dialogue to understand how can approach the aspect of interaction of Europeans over business and bureaucy matters
I wonder where this was filmed?
Kirkcudbright, Dumfries and Galloway. My parents live there and I recognise some landmarks
Credits at 1:20:10
Yeah. I know about his East Coast / West Coast war with Strinberg. Ibsen was a better playwright. By far.
Brilliant. Timeless, tho god forbid.
An interesting programme just recently on The BBC "Free Thinking". It deals in the main with this play and 'The Master Builder'. One of the participants, Kåre Conradi makes the point:
"If he was alive now he would have written about all the subjects we don't dare to talk about".
He then later goes on to positively to reference Greta Thunberg. Two things about that. Is Greta Thunberg somebody who would have discovered with is noticed by the Chemist here? Is this (and other allusions in the programme) an example of what people don't dare to talk about?
Now, I'm not going to say because Ms. Thunberg is not an expert and because the issue of climate crisis is actually far from being something we scared to talk about, that he and the others on the show are in agreement with Ms. Thunberg's stance, that they are wrong - indeed, they may well be right.
But what we have in this show (which in many ways I found brilliant and helpful and well worth listening to) is a prime example of how some can use people we have deified from the past to back up their own beliefs.
Much better, I believe, when discussing 'what we don't care to talk about' are for example:
The Wuhan lab,
Lock Downs
Masks
Vaccinations,
Cholesterol and statins
Whether 3 Professors from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford should be treated as 'fringe'.
I'm not going to argue one way or the other regarding this list (though, of course, one can reasonably guess where I stand on most or all of them). But I do think it's simplistic to suggest that just because this is, as one other participant on the show states 'The first eco drama' that therefore the goodies will today be those on that side of the fence.
One interesting fact. Graham Stringer MP, is a long standing member of the House's Science and Technology Committee. I believe he is the only member in his time to have been an actual scientist. He has a science degree and was a practitioner prior to going into politics.
Regarding the issue of a climate crisis, he is a sceptic.
Strangely, he is a chemist.
Yeah. I read Ibsen. Ghosts. Hedda Gabler. The Master Builder.
Master Builder. Because of the conflict of the protagonist and his aging and his desperate hold of the craft he journeyman for years.
The mistake he made in his big speech was getting philosophical. He should've just stuck to the facts, the scientific facts.
Ok boomer.
@@souryasengupta8121 OK Zoomer
@@UserUser-zc6fx Yes, I do realize that.
I also realize that philosophy and science are now very different.
@@UserUser-zc6fx I think I see your point, but would you not agree that science is evidence-based, whereas philosophy is not? And that science is nuts and bolts, while philosophy is abstract?
BTW, your comments have reminded me that when I took Logic 101 in college, I was surprised to learn that it was part of the Philosophy curriculum. Which I think aligns with part of the point you are making.
@@CZcamsallowedmynametobestolen Real philosophy is more about understanding truths that generally speaking the intellect is not equipped to grasp, using deeper aspects of our mind and consciousness than science in its current form could ever hope to fathom.
For the international
This play is very much accurate in terms of what we now experience with the "green revolution", the shift to so called green energy, which will make the world a better place. In some ways the problem is now turned on it's head, as in the play the doctor wanted to save the people from pollution, but powerful forces in society denied him to stop the pollution. Now we have forces in society that want to create a communist economy, force a shift to use electricity instead of fossil fuels. Fair enough more electricity is good, but such a sudden and fast revolution will probably ruin our economies. Also to use enormous amount of rare metals in car batteries and other batteries to store wind and solar power is VERY damaging too. The best solution would have been to gradually build out nuclear energy to gradually reduce the use of gas and oil. But no, it's happening so fats it will ruin us. They blame the inflation on the war, totally ignoring that the majority of the problem is the green shift.
"fossil fuels"
that's funny.
@@crisp6383 What is funny about fossil fuels?
Okay. Mary. How about I not draw you naked and I just sketch the family. You, Ewen and the kids. How about that?
I think I am good for it.
Use the search terms "An Enemy of the People trump" and make the correlation.
In order to move forward, one must know the past.
Here is the past speaking to the future. Remember the PFAS or "forever chemicals" ?
How many people died? Who was responsible? What was the end result?
Catherine 😂
I think. I think Arthur Miller did a revival. I heard it was better.
Five hundred dollars
Dreadful , amateurish production as one would expect from BBC Scotland.
Abba? No thanks.
such a boring take on the book