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Shadowdark VS. Dragonbane - A Comparative Review from a Solo Gamer's Perspective
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- Welcome to the very first review on this channel where I compare Shadowdark with Dragonbane and give you my Solo Gamers verdict.
Core Mechanics: 03:35
Classes/Characters: 10:15
Advancement: 19:05
Combat: 24:15
Magic: 33:25
Encumberance: 38:00
Other Stuff: 40:30
Verdict: 47:13
#tabletopgaming #shadowdark #dragonbane #review
Hello Gamers, just a quick addition in the comment section: While it might sound strange that I didn't mention the Dragonbane solo rules in my review that was not an oversight. The reason is, that in my opinion the rules are generic enough to be used with every other system as well and every other solo engine could be used with Dragonbane also. The only Dragonbane specific part ist the part about the character modification. So, yes, it is great that they included solo rules but for me they don't make or break the game. And I also added a bonus point for value for money, so that includes the solo rules. Just wanted to get that out there, since I forgot to mention it in the video.
Both great systems and offer something different for plays to enjoy. Great video I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on them.
The random tables in shadowdark make it an easy win for solo, in my opinion.
Yeah, lots of good stuff in there
I guess this is comparison of Dragonbane and Shadowdark -- however if you want random tables Knave is another good option.
Kind of cool these are coming back they were so common back in the day from companies like Judge's Guild and Flying Buffalo.
Thanks for the review! I have both and I really like both but always nice to hear your views! Would love to hear your thoughts on why you tried both systems for running Star Wars. Was it because, at that point in time, you weren't sure which to use to design your Star Wars hack off of or some other reason(s)? Ultimately, why did you go with Shadowdark as the basis for it?
First, the only current official Star Wars RPG from FFG does not appeal to me. Tried it, didn't like it because of the fidfly narrative dice and I generally dislike games that require unique dice. And technically I use both for Star Wars. The difference is, that I took the time to write stuff down for Shadowdark but I can play SW with DB just as well. I did write the stuff for Shadowdark because the book and the elegant simplicity just spoke to me.
@@Solospelunking Same here with the current FFG Star Wars. No thankyou! Yeah, I liked how easy you adapted Dragonbane to it but I also picked up your Shadowdark hack today and looking forward to reading it. Top stuff though, enjoying the content and what you're doing here!
@@Rich_H_1972 Regarding Dragonbane I haven't tackled space combat and vehicle rules yet, but I do have some ideas for that. Will come back to it eventually.
Great review! The magic system in Shadowdark seems really good. I wonder if that could be applied to 5e..? Probably not, unfortunately, it's probably overpowered. But maybe I'll try it at some point. It would probably work for lower levels. I'm uploading a video using your Fantasy Solo Roleplaying Framework right now, it will be a while longer, but hopefully you'll like it :)
I am looking forward to it. Your videos are great👍.
Regarding the magic system: It might work. You would have to look at the math and probabilities I guess and find a balance between base DC to which would add the spell slot level to and compare that to average check results.
@@Solospelunking That is a really good idea, it would be interesting to look at the math there! :D
Magic system -- roll-to-cast was borrowed from Dungeon Crawl Classics. The Arcane Library has been really honest that she borrowed quite a few things from DCC.
Thank you for the great review and your thoughts on it. May I ask: how did you become aware of shadow dark initially? Have a great start into the new week.
Well, the usual, CZcams feeds by the algorithm matching my interests.
Hard to miss either of these two games if you follow CZcams. Basically, lots of publicity on games on CZcams that are considered D&D 5e alternatives which also includes games like MCDM (not released yet), Daggerheart (not released yet), DC20 (not released yet), Tales of the Valiant, and Pathfinder 2e.
I would lean toward a simpler system, like Shadowdark, for solo play. Maybe even go as far as Knave. I agree with the other comment about the various tables in Shadowdark also being of value. Seems like Dragonbane would be a good group system though.
I think when it comes to monsters a group is helpful because of the auto hits and often secondary effects. I remember my fight against vampire bats in Fool's Crossing I think it was and I came through by blind luck. A group in these situations is helpful.
Tunnels & Trolls. The original solo TTRPG.
I haven't played shadow dark but it sounds pretty OSR and I've done plenty of that. OSR appears simple because it's fairly rigid in application. I've played Dragonbane and it is a BRP derivative and I guess I've played more BRP and D00lite than anything else. Maybe it is more thoughtful in creation because it offers options, but Bragonbane is actually quite simple to play in reality. SD sounds pretty good. I can vouch that DB is simple and good.
They are both good and I would call Shadowdark a rules lite game and Dragonbane a rules medium game. But none of them is really complicated.
As a fellow solo gamer, I must sincerely applaud you pointing out that the real-time play of shadowdark is ridiculous.
It put me off the game for a long time. And now I love the game, but I threw that rule out completely. I never play that way.
It is a dumb gimmick.
Yes, the first time I read that I was like "whatever" and didn't give it a second thought.
Same here -- good game and I've played it a few times -- first thing I did was huck the torch mechanic out the window. I like a little more "social" kind of a game -- so just not a fan of that style of play.