John Hay: The Most Important Person You Have Never Heard Of
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- John Hay was President Lincoln's personal secretary, a position that began nearly five decades of public service. A diplomat who served multiple Administrations from Lincoln to Roosevelt, he was a central figure in defining the U.S. foreign policy that would be the basis of the United States role on the world stage in the twentieth century.
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As many viewers have noticed, William McKinley was shot while at the Pan American exposition in Buffalo, NY, not in Chicago. I am sorry for the error.
I love your videos, we all make mistakes. Good onya mate.
very careless of you dearest history guy, its always been that way
We are human ....we all make mistakes.... Having the integrity to admit a mistake is a character not easy to find these days!!!!
Keep up the good work!
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered as a Buffalo History student it grated my nerves and i’m very pleased with the correction.
Great History I knew who Hay was but am amazed that I thought the !890’s Hay was the same person. Thankyou.
I enjoy your presentations and your gentle manner. And though some may call for the toppling of The History Guy statue for one small inadvertent error , I’ll happily guard it from removal. Just rededicate yourself to an adaptation of a phrase in my line of work: “measure twice (I do thrice), cut once.” I’m sure you do variegated yoeman’s work for these videos (research, writing, editing, filming, film editing, graphics, etc) so a small mistake is expected time to time.
At least you’re not making the BIG ideological misdirections like the late Howard Zinn. THAT’S where real errors have real effects.
John Hay was, "A man, a plan, a canal, Panama." Spelled backwards, that phrase reads "A man, a plan, a canal, Panama." This deserves to be remembered too.
It is called a palindrome. Another refers to Napoleon Bonaparte; Able was I ere I saw Elba.
Go hang a salami, I’m a lasagna hog.
No, it doesn't.
@@jasonbecker4049 yes, it does.
Was Lon Nol the only palindromic leader of a country in history?
The John Singer Sargent portrait of Hay is sublime. Hay truly was one of the most consequential figures of the latter half of the 19th century. Thank you for this episode.
“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.”
― Abraham Lincoln
"Don't all good stories involve pirates?"
-The History Guy
Actually, this is a paraphrase of a statement ABOUT A. Lincoln by Robert Ingersoll, which is commonly misattributed!
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Thanks for the clarification Mr. Gustafson. It's a great quote, and very appropriate considering the current administration and state of the Union.
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You keep on guzzling that ORANGE KOOLAID! The tap runs dry November 3rd! 👍🏻😆
As a lifelong resident of New Hampshire, The Fells on Lake Sunapee is one of our favorite places to visit. I knew a little of his life but, learned so much more watching your video. Thank you for that.
this piece reminds me of a saying... "it is often better to be lovingly forgotten than hatefully remembered" and so oft is the case with politicians
Damn Learnt Man Quite Well Said........
A preview for Don Trump
F a politician. We. Need intellect. Problem solvers. Not a smart sweet tasting bull shiiit mouthed. Sob.sienticcet
Duhh
AMEN !!
You are doing for my historical passions what my first band teacher did for my musical ones. Your writing and delivery bring these missives to life and I can't thank you enough for them. A real treasure!
I spent many, many hours at the John Hay Library at Brown University studying many dusty tomes in utter bliss. Thank you, Sir.
I've made two trips to Salem, Indiana, and researched in the John Hay Center there.
What's the color of horse manure?
Brown! Brown! Brown!
Sorry, my grandfather went to PC. 😂
Ronald McReynolds Well said sir
I have many books in my home, by many I mean thousands lol and I enjoy the tomes of history, philosophy and religion the most especially when all 3 are joined in one book. In this modern age of computers, smartphones, internet and streaming everything I find solace and serenity in the simple pleasure of consuming a real book next to a green shaded “bankers lamp” while sitting in my favourite over-stuffed leather chair and being warmed by the wood fire in the fireplace. Sometimes I add a glass of something tasty and a nice cigar to the mix lol. Of course watching the latest THG video is a close second in enjoyment lol. I am truly blessed in many ways with my many books being among them. The last few years I’ve been joined by my grandson and his love of me reading aloud to him. Life is good and I’m grateful for every minute of it.
Cheers to all
@Jeffrey Mill Small world indeed. I live in TTP in PP. Cheers.
You're right, I never heard of him. What a fascinating life he lived, and what a great part of history!
I love history...no thanks to any teacher I ever had in school. You are a remarkable teacher and educator. I thoroughly enjoy every episode of your program.
I had exactly one good history teacher in school. But he, sadly, had to spend most of our class time trying to control the mindless idiots of the class, which took away from those of us sincerely interested in the topics.
I was the obnoxious 6th grader raising his hand to correct the errors of the teacher. It was a revelation to me that I knew more than my teacher on a particular topic, when she only knew what the text book said. It was a bigger revelation that American school text books contained a lot of incorrect info. How she must have hated me! I remember in high school being sent to stand out in the hall for correcting my history teacher's pronunciation of the word Versailles. He called kept calling it "Ver-sails." It drove me insane.
I owe my love of American history to Mrs. Ann Phelps, my 8th-grade teacher at Lamar Junior High, Temple, Texas; the best teacher I ever had, bar none.
People that can, do. People that can't, teach.
@fred McMurray bro please use your native language. Google translate doesn't interpret broken English.
Great history that really deserves to be remembered. His name was immortalized for us here in the Philippines when Camp John Hay was established in October 25, 1903 by President Theodore Roosevelt. It is now a famous tourist destination and forest watershed reservation in cool, mountainous Baguio City situated in northern Luzon. Thank you, The History Guy, for the great presentation.
I’m from Panama. In school we are taught about the Herran-Hay Treaty that was rejected by Bogota. That rejection triggered Panama’s secession from Colombia. We are also taught about the Hay-Buneau Varilla Treaty that created the Panama Canal Zone, and formalized the legalities that allowed the construction of the Panama Canal. (That’s another piece of history that deserves to be remembered in one of your episodes)
Of course, I agree on all the points mentioned so far. That being said, That why Puerto Rico, is considered to be such an Important Strategic Spot. As it is, sort of speak, on the "Eastern" edge of an "Atlantic - Caribbean Funnel" towards the Panama Canal. Making It, an ideal Surveillance Position for an "early warning" system.
@@RoaroftheTiger I'd like to see some History Guy videos on Puerto Rico.
Very interesting perspective .
Thanks !
Yep. Though I'd expect that THG would need a "double-twist Bow Tie" for that particular episode! "there is a lot of 'splaining to do!". Best of luck to all.
@angela anderson Seriously. As a launch platform, Wiki if used judiciously, can be excellent. Then comes the fun of reading, including old stuff that doesn't really care about our "issues of the day (circa NOW)", but was written when it happened. Then written again 25-years after that something happened, and then is written about again, but now 110 years after this something. Perspective. This explains why the Bow Tie Guy is so cheerful! I am not sure that I like him for that. : /
It was a man like John Hay I was looking for.
A figure connecting multiple administrations, sitting behind the scenes, doing his job simply because he was good at it.
That's the kind of man we need in US politics.
Thank you for informing me about him. Now, I must go do much reading.
Were he around today, he'd be accused of being the Deep State.
@@gbeachy2010 Very true!
“Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?”
― Abraham Lincoln
"History that deserves to be remembered. "
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"I do not like that man, I must get to know him better." ~ Abraham Lincoln
Leader of a “Team of Rivals”.
"I never met a man I didn't like". Will Rodgers
@@goodun2974 Will Rodgers obviously never met Trump, Biden or any of the Clintons. Or any of the other Washington DC cretins in power today.
How awesome is it that this episode premiered on the anniversary of his death.
I have always wondered who John Hay was because I had spent summers in my youth at the grounds of Camp John Hay in the Philippines.
Thanks for this illuminating episode!
It's funny how Filipinos know John Hay more than Americans do, as a former Army base in Baguio is named after him.
Correct. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hay_Air_Station en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_John_Hay
It was turned into a Golf and Country Club commonly known as John Hay.
I was stationed on Clark in the 80s and played golf at Camp John Hay... great place. Never knew his history.
Nobody has to post but do an honest self assessment.
How many military bases do you actually know anything about who they were named for?
I came up with 4.
I would be sarcarstic if I said 5 and this is a family channel. So I wont.
@@shawnr771 Sarcasm is a family value in my family.
These are the times when I'm so embarrassed, thinking I know something about history and yet I've never heard of this great man.
Thank you for this Nugget.
Wow. When I consider how many people like that there are in American history, let a lone world history, you'll never run out of subjects!
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I had indeed heard of John Hay, but (as usual) you brought his story to life for me with detail I had not seen before. Thank you.
As a US naval officer, I was able to spend some leave time at Camp John Hay just outside of Baguio City, Republic of the Philippines, in 1988. It was a beautiful retreat for US service personnel and provided a welcome relief from the tropical heat of Subic Bay!
There's a nice article about the former US base on Wikipedia.
So, yes, I have heard of John Hay and he definitely deserves to be remembered!
Thanks for your good work!
I was born and raised in Northeast MO. John Hay was very well known in the area known as the Home of Mark Twain. There are parks and historic sites dedicated to Mr. Hay. I am glad that you featured him and let everyone know about this very important player in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
When i was in high school in Panama one of our classes was called Relaciones de Panama y Estados Unidos, a class that everyone had to take and Mr. Hay was a very important part of that class. So Mr. HG in Panama this great man is not forgotten for he is part of our history. Many thanks Maestro
I want to say that this is the best episode yet. But, I say that about every one. Thank you for being the best channel on CZcams.
I dig this channel. Mark Felton has a great one too!!
I can tell you there's someone who certainly deserves to be remembered.
YOU.
All the fine work you do and do so splendidly.
I have come to count on you.
Your structure and delivery are outstanding.
You sir, are appreciated by so many.
Keep going.
I believe your impact is far greater than you may realize.
A hearty and warm...
THANK YOU!
Roland Henderson
Age 70
Huntington Beach Ca
You Sir, are a gentleman.
Your words, echo my sentiments, exactly.
Roland, I am 70 also and agree completely.
I know of John Hay from Gore Vidal’s excellent historical novels. He first appeared in Lincoln and the 1876 and in Empire. I learned more about him from this channel as I always do.
Here in the Philippines, Camp John Hay is famous as a vacation spot
The fact that he met Teddy Roosevelt as a child and ended up as his Secretary of State blows me away.
I can’t say too many times what a great story teller you are. You provide history with passion and are one of my favorite CZcams channels.
Clarity in communication, remains an important part of passing ideas to others through speech and writing. Thanks for the video.
I was aware of him being Lincoln's secretary, but not the rest. A very important person he was, Thank you.
Take you to him, I will
We have a John Hay High School here in Cleveland Ohio and thank you for this enlightening installment.
As soon as you mentioned the stone name Amasa Stone I knew who you were talking about. You should come to Cleveland sometime I could give you quite a tour. There is the gorgeous Amasa Stone Chapel on Case Western Reserve University campus.
It has more connection to John hay then you might know.
This is taken from page about the Chapel.
“AMASA STONE CHAPEL
The AMASA STONE CHAPEL on the CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIV. campus was erected by Mrs. John Hay and Mrs. Samuel Mather (see FLORA STONE MATHER) as a memorial to their father, AMASA STONE, in 1911. Amasa Stone ChapelIt was designed by Henry Vaughan of Boston, first architect of the Natl. Cathedral in Washington, DC, in the late Decorated Gothic style and was closely based on English models. It is constructed of Indiana limestone. A keystone bearing the carved head of Amasa Stone, taken from the old UNION DEPOT on the lakefront that Stone built in 1866, was placed over the east entrance. The plan of the chapel consists of a nave and choir, with narrow side aisles divided by slender stone shafts. The nave accommodates 545 persons and is lighted by clerestory windows and larger east and west windows. The tower is 121 ft. high to the top of the corner pinnacles. The chapel is used for various university events, such as convocations and commencement ceremonies. An apocryphal story dating from pre-federation days of WRU and Case Institute of Technology maintained that a west-facing gargoyle on the tower had its tongue sticking out toward Case Institute.”
The old money in Cleveland Ohio was huge and we probably should’ve been a larger city but things didn’t go that way. You should visit Lakeview cemetery if you ever get to come here especially for Garfield’s Tomb which just got a massive cleaning. The other memorials inside that cemetery would blow most peoples minds. Check their website out also.
And honestly, if you ever get to town look me up I know it better than most people and I show it quite a bit on my live stream driving around you can find me same name on Periscope.
While I knew of John Hay, I must admit that my knowledge was limited to his role as Lincoln's secretary. Thank You for shining a light on this man.
One of the things I really love about the history guy is that there is no music playing in the background. I enjoy being able to hear the narration clearly.
I first heard of John Hay in 1980. Sad, but I was never taught anything about him in High School. In 1980 I was in the Philippines and I visited the Baguio area and stayed at the Armed Forces Recreation Center, Camp John Hay.
John Reinburg Me too, 1986. Nice place. A lot of cute nurses.
@@michaelottesen6143 Not so nice anymore, terrible traffic and over population lots of pollution from the vehicles uncontrolled building on the mountain slopes for decades and deforestation.
@@PaulJohn01, I remember in the 80s, the Philippine government was allowing Chinese businesses to deforest miles of jungle around the Subic Bay Naval Complex. It seems that Filipinos are very shortsighted... more so than even us Americans!
They could have a gigantic tourist-friendly, tropical paradise to rival Hawaii, Okinawa, and Tahiti, if only they would protect the environment!
History Guy...this may be your finest quarter hour.
John Hay -- a trusted and surpassingly brilliant confidant, from Lincoln all the way to Teddy Roosevelt.
Hay's great, poetic and prodigious life is here illuminated.
Having spent time in Baguio City, Philippines (the home of Camp John Hay), I have wondered who he was. Now I know. Thank you very much.
Baguio City is the best
@@mikejones9961 Not so nice anymore, terrible traffic and over population lots of pollution from the vehicles uncontrolled building on the mountain slopes for decades and deforestation.
This story is of the most important man, I believe, you've ever highlighted. What a fascinating career he had, especially with all the treaties he penned. What he accomplished is absolutely amazing, and so are you. Thank you for resurrecting these critically important people and bringing them into the light in the 2020's.
McKinley was shot in Buffalo, NY at the Pan-American Exposition, not in Chicago. The Chicago world's fair happened in 1893.
That was an easy fact that should not have been missed. I love this channel but sometimes wonder how the History Guy sources his research.
Or did it? The Mandella effect?...
Yeah... a googled it and says Buffalo, NY... hmm, I know he has to process a lot of info for these videos
That sure cleared things up. Being a Buffalo native I was kind of amazed by this channel to goof up that bad. It's funny but there are two buildings from that exposition that are being used as museums.
Nah, he's testing us to see if we're paying attention :÷)
This is clearly one of the best places on CZcams. Thoughtful, entertaining ,and nonpartisan--at a time when our country is divided as only once before.
I'll never forget ol' what'shisname.....
Thanks THG.
What a great man. Who served with distintion, his country and his great friends in office.
John Hay, a marvel of a man, who worked his magic behind the scenes. Great episode! Thk u!
It is not just presidents that leave their mark but many of their staff members and especially ones like John Hay who had an outstanding government career and contributed so much to the country and to the Lincoln Administration and subsequent administrations. Am so proud of this man! Wish we had more government officials like him today!
Being born in 1951, we were still taught tidbits of history such as John Hays' contribution. I thought he was the Sec. of State only. He sure wore a lot of hats in his career.
Like you I didn't connect Lincoln's secretary with the treaty maker and Secretary of State.
Yes, an amazing man indeed. I have read many books on Abraham Lincoln and so am quite familiar with what Hay achieved at the side of that incredible President. I didn’t know what happened after that tumultuous time so this episode was very enlightening. Thank you
There is a Camp John Hay in Baguio City, Philippines. It was a summer R&R enclave of US soldiers when there were still US military bases in the Philippines. I was able to enter there once in the 1980s when I was little. Nowadays the area is full of commercial establishments, thus heavy traffic.
We used to go there on vacations when I was a kid both with the family and on Boy Scout trips.
You should do a history of aircrew callsigns. I'm a retired Air Force SNCO and have worked with aircrew my whole career. I've come across and worked crewmembers with some pretty wild and funny callsigns. While assigned to an F-16 squadron in Korea, we had an Operation Officer "DO" who had a given callsign of "Midol" ....you could say he had an outward grumpy personality. It is forbidden to give yourself a callsign and it is normally voted on by their peers. All aviation branches still have this tradition of giving their co-crewmembers a callsign. Some of the pilots and crew will have their "callsigns" stenciled by the canopy on an aircraft.
You have an awesome channel!
Who in God's little green earth could possibly give a thumbs down to this excellent presentation of an interesting man's life? If you don't enjoy history and learning about the lesser known events of the past, why are you even here?
This doesn't have to be an automatic political polarization, gentleman. I respect everyone's right to an opinion. But I honestly think there are people who make every effort possible to shit on the hard work of others. The thumbs downers are probably so miserable in their own pathetic existence that they have to be negative about everything else. Wish they would just quietly go fvck themselves instead.
Auto response application used by political activist to disparage any channel ie: American history, in their cultural revolution. This app is activated by recommendation lists and automatically dislikes according to their choice.
As in most of his videos, The History Guy has some facts wrong or omitted.
I went to John Hay elementary school in Seattle. Now I know who John Hay was. Thank you.
America's first overseas military base was named for John Hay. Camp John Hay, Baguio, Philippines served as a U.S. Army and later U.S. Air Force Base from 1903 until 1993, when it was turned over to the Republic of the Philippines. Perhaps the base and it's history could be a follow on episode? Thank you.
I have been there....It is a beautiful place.
@bojo perez you are probably referring to the Baguio Country Club, the club was built next to Camp John Hay, it was a go to place for US soldiers and and wealthy americans.
Still a very nice place
You stold my Camp John Hay in Baguio Philippines comment here but yes. Absolutely. I never bothered to see who John Hay was. Now I know. Baguio is about 6 hour drive North of Manila about a mile high up. Great little town and nice weather cooler climate. Camp John Hay sported a mile high bowling alley. Nice to put a face on the name I've heard about in 1995 when I was in Baguio. The summer capital of the Philippines. Great video.
@@comm2531 I envy you, getting to see the world. I had an eye injury at 12 years old being stupid & playing "army" with my friends, BB guns and WristWrockets ( a sling shot) that kept me from the military. Thank 'you' for serving, for me and US!
Every time I click on one of these videos, I am hesitant.
But without fail, I am rewarded for having done so.
Thank you for what you do!
He is an example of someone who did a lot to get America into what it is today and yet, he is ignored by history.
I will surely not forget who he was, as well as yourself, that's how history is remembered the facts, the truth is so diluted by personal experiences and beliefs.
I knew about his importance to Roosevelt's administration, but had no clue that was only the end of his career.
Thank you!
I love these kinds of stories. They make me want to find out more about the person and what they did in their lives.
Thank You very much for your channel, Jeff
I was today years old when I realized that this man is the namesake of one of my favorite fishing lakes just north of Salem, IN. I spent the day there fishing just yesterday!
Love the history guy, I always learn so much.
I like that saying: "He was an arrow that ran through both."
I had never heard of John Hay until now. Thank you.
John Hay was indeed a remarkable man! Thank you for this show!💙💚💚💛
Suggestion: the Haymarket affair. Everyone outside the U.S. knows about the martyrs of Chicago and Labour Day, e.i. May Day, except ironically, most U.S. born citizens. P.S.: big fan
It has become a slow and steady addiction to which I must satisfy the _craving_ at least once a day for *_"The History Guy."_* I do not expect recovery from this malady!
While serving in the USAF in 1976, I had the opportunity of visiting a US out post in Baguio called Camp John Hay. At the time oblivious to whom the Camp was named after. Now I am a little more richer
Thanks.
Thank you, sincerely, for you service to our country.
THG thank you for highlighting John Hay. A crucial moment and actor in US history
I am so glad you have this channel. We learn more in ten minutes about some of the most important parts of history. Thank you, Sir!
What’s a nice pick. Such a pivotal character that saw history in the making, for best or for worst.
Mostly for the worse
Well, once again your insight and knowledge have illuminated my life. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I am from Salem Indiana! We have a museum center named after him and at least when I was in school, he was taught to us.
I’m an avid reader and a history buff. Love all kind of history since my youth. A super fan of THG (“The Best”). There’s no episode in which I haven’t learned something new. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
Outstanding! Before watching this, I only knew the name John Hay because of Camp John Hay in the city of Baguio in the Philippines, where I stayed for a time as a child with my family in the 1960's. Now I know something about the man, too.
John Hay is remembered in the Philippines, where the American enclave, known as Camp John Hay, in the City of Baguio, the summer Capital of the Philippines, is named in his honor.
They remember the occupatian by the US?
Why?
@@jacquelinevanderkooij4301 When The U.S. defeated Spain in the Spanish-American war of 1898, America came into possession of the Philippines from Spain. America was not a Colonialist nation but could not leave the Philippines because the German Fleet was waiting in nearby China to take over the Philippines expecting America to leave. This was deemed not to be good for the world's balance of power and thus America instead sent 500 volunteer American teachers, who were named the "Thomasites" after the ship "U.S.S. Thomas" which ferried them from San Francisco to Manila. The goal was to establish a public educational system so that the Filipinos could govern themselves along Western traditions which therefore would be respected by the Western Nations. This came with a promise of Independence upon the installation of a government structure. In the interim, they established a Commonwealth, a system wherein the final authority rested upon the People. That being so, America was never an "Occupier", as you asked. Noteworthy is that In 1933, through the efforts of the "Thomasites", the Philippines earned the distinction of becoming the most literate nation in the world. WWII delayed the Indpendence of the Philippines until 1946.
I am very proud of my ancestors. My family has done many great things from France to Scotland to America. I could not imagine the trials and tribulations they had to endure. Their willingness to take arms, their poetical minds, and patriotism for their homes has made a difference in the past, and continues to do so in the present. My only disappointment is that I could not be there to see it all happen. I have studied intensively and hope to learn more about the history of my ancestors. Thank you for the information. It is greatly appreciated.
I met John Hay “Jock” Whitney at Saratoga back in the early 1980s. He was quite old and infirm at the time but still had one of the strongest stables in thoroughbred racing. He also owned Greentree Farm in Kentucky, where he bred top class thoroughbreds. John Hay was his grandfather.
...and Joan Whitney Payson was Jock Whitney's sister and co-owner of Greentree Farm, they won the Kentucky Derby twice, the Preakness once and the Belmont four times. She was the first majority owner of the NY Mets, and first woman to buy a major league sports team.
I was associated with many fine stables & farms in the Lexington, Ky. area during the 80s as an exercise rider. But wow, I was totally unaware of this nugget of history regarding Greentree Farm's ownership. I was of course familiar with both the Whitney and Payson names in the thoroughbred business, but had no idea of the John Hays connection. Thank you for both for sharing this information!🙂
THANK YOU! I've been waiting 37 years for this! While I was living at San Miguel Naval Base in the Philippines in the mid-80s there was a US military base called Camp John Hay, which was near the mountain city of Baguio. For so many years I wondered who that was. Nobody would tell me and there was no Internet then to look it up. While I rarely thought about it over the years, once in a while I would think to myself "Who was this guy who the base was named after?" The base closed when all US military bases left the Philippines when Mount Pinatubo erupted in 1991, but it still exists as a resort. At least in this part of the Philippines, John Hay's name lives on!
Won't forget him now ! Great Story 🇺🇸
He is one of my favorite people in American History. I used to work right next to his home, and went there all the time! (it’s the Cleveland Historical society).
The right man in the right place at the right time. That pretty much sums up the life and times of John Hay.
This made me homesick. My Dad was born and raised in Warsaw. My family knew him and Lincoln.
I was already smiling but when you used "arrow" to describe him, my smile got bigger!! Fantastic wordage my friend!! 😉
I spent many holidays as a boy visiting Camp John Hay in Baguio, in the Philippines. Today I finally learned who Mr. Hay was.
Thank you so much.
I graduated for John Hay Elementary School In Chicago, Illinois in 1972. The school was built and named after John Milton Hay in 1921.
i graduated there in 71
John Hay, a man of character and loyalty.
This episode was, even more than the others I've watched, poetry. Beautifully written, masterfully orated, this is probably the most profound, poignant historical video I've ever seen.
Here in the Philippines, particularly in Baguio City, there is a camp there called Camp John Hay.
I'm reminded of it while watching this video!
Thank you for sharing this to us! Cheers & mabuhay from tropical Philippines!
You're right! I have never heard of John Hay before. You told his story perfectly. Another great video.
It's time for History Guy to start going by his real name. Someone said he's the modern Paul Harvey, which is a pretty good simile. It's history well told, so I really think this work will endure and be appreciated later on, too. His history will also deserve to be remembered.
No, he shouldn't change his name.
"The History Guy" implies that the most important thing is the history itself.
Not the man who remembers it.
America already has a celebrity complex.
Being remembered for your work instead of your name has a certain quality that few people realize.
@@MrNicoJacYou're right, there are too many celebrities out there, and a lot of talentless hacks among them. It's easy for one, exceptional person to become lost and forgotten. I think that's another reason we value history and this channel's contribution. But ultimately, this channel won't endure the test of time. It's work should, though, and knowing who the author is improves it's chances down the road.
His name is Lance Geiger. He's a former insurance agent and park ranger and mostly a self-taught historian.
"It's time for History Guy to start going by his real name. " That *is* his real name.
... isn't it?
Today I will bale some hay with a whole new perspective and will remember some well deserved history.
Ah! Working in the hot summer sun putting up winter feed for the cattle. You are taking me back over fifty years in history to a small southeastern Iowa farm. Need someone to "set the forks"?
👍 Here's to no breakdowns or rain! Ours is done, sort of a thin year, hoping for a decent second cutting! We'll see.....
I did not bale it but used to get paid to pick it out of the fields and toss it on a trailer for another person to stack.
@@shawnr771 That's a while back! Getting all that grass out of the waistband of heavy old jeans was a lasting impression! 🤣👍
That was 30-40 years ago for me. And my poor back still aches.
I read about John Hay while reading a book about Teddy Roosevelt's diplomacy in Asia. The book mostly dealt with Roosevelt's daughter and her "history that needs to be remembered", with several mentions of Hay's role in formulating the treaty that ended the war between Russia and Japan and gaining favorable trade status with various Pacific countries. Roosevelt was the first president to take an active international role and set a precedent modern presidents follow today.
The only good argument for human cloning would be to have one "History Guy" in every high school. We'll have to settle for this excellent CZcams channel.
I recall both Hay and Nicolay as loyal Secretaries of Lincoln.
Thanks for featuring him to gather more knowledge of him.
I read Gore Vidal's "Lincoln". Mr Hay was a prominent character in the book. One of the better fictional history books I have ever read.
Vidal's book is why I knew about Hay too. I was hoping this presentation would tell me whether Hay's fondness for bordellos and experiments with hashish at Brown were true or Vidal embroideries.
@@timjohns2751 Well if its embroideries, its of the highest quality. I've read a couple other of his works and seen some documentaries on him. He was a unique character in history.
A had a very good friend who was curator of the John Hay centre in Salem,IN.
I own that 10 volume Lincoln biography. I started reading it when it was gifted to me but ended up mostly skimming it. I will make the effort to read it completely Mr History Guy. I'll let you know when I complete it and reference any Pirate stories. "Because don't all good stories........"
Wow! There are some great stories in those volumes, I am sure! I Used to have an old biography book of Lincoln by Sandberg, and it had many little known historical facts that I really liked. Unfortunately, I lent it to a person that died before they gave it back. And... I didn't feel right about asking the kin for it back, sinceI didn't know them.
You are very lucky that someone gave you such a wonderful gift! Make sure you DO read them again!
I'm happy that you own that volume! Now, may I borrow it? 😂
It's surely a fun to read it! Cheers & mabuhay from tropical Philippines!
What a life Mr. Hay lived !!! I recently started some family ancestry and turns out my paternal side "The Hoover's" helped settle Pike County Milton and The Pittsfield Illinois area. I dare wonder if any of my ancestors rubbed shoulder's with the Great John Hay !! Just the thought of it adds a lil pep to my step!:-)
John Hay: I won't be remembered
THG: Hold my bow tie
I’m definitely going to remember that John Hay worked with three US Predidents and all three were assassinated. What are the odds? Thanks to THG.
John Hay is famous here
he is known as the namesake of a former US military camp here and is now a tourist site
"Camp John Hay"
Excellent video. Quite fascinating.
Hay's story is undoubtedly important and worth remembering, he lived a remarkable life, but I still have to admit to feeling a personal despisal for him as yet another powerful man who, upon attaining obscene wealth, seems to have utterly lost touch with any sense of empathy for anyone who had not.
John Hay was one of the great men who shaped America . Thanks.
I know the name but not the history. You, sir, inspire me to take my 13 year old daughter to Salem, Indiana! I have driven past the John Hay museum many times, but never bothered to go in. That oversight will be corrected soon. Thank you for the much needed lessons that you give freely.
Have lunch at Maguey’s on the square too!
@@PissedoffAmerican1159 Did they still do the lunch buffet before covid? It's awesome!
I had never even heard of this man. How interesting. Thankyou...
How could we not enjoy this episode of THG? You make it interesting and enjoyable. Sadly, as you predicted, I don't recall ever hearing of him. Thanks for bringing them to life HG!
I've come across the name John Hay many times and never put much thought to it. This one man was so steeped in US policy and yet...
Great video, thank you!