The Mitfords: Communism Vs Fascism In The English Aristocracy | Tale Of Two Sisters | Timeline

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  • This documentary focuses on Jessica the Communist and Diana the Fascist. Separated by only a few years in age, but poles apart in ideology. They grew up in a divided Europe at the beginning of the 20th Century, a place and time full of great political tension. Old regimes were clinging on to power and new ones were eager to establish themselves. Many citizens of Europe were forced to decide which moral compass they wished to adopt, and both Jessica and Diana were quick to make that decision.
    Both fiercely competitive, each sister sought out her own distinct identity and clashed with the other siblings as a result. Like so many others of their era, their personal and political lives became so entwined that they ultimately shattered the once strong and loving bonds of sisterhood.
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  • @johnhart3480
    @johnhart3480 Před 2 lety +400

    It would seem to be good material for a TV series along the lines of "The Crown" or perhaps even "Game of Thrones" 😀 Truth is stranger than fiction.

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 Před 2 lety +18

      Yes, unfortunately times the add fake drama to make them more interesting which to me takes away . I never really watched the crown but I watched the Spanish princess. They put stuff in there that was so untrue. The real story was fantastic but they had stuff and they didn't need to do. Then you don't know what's true and what's not. At least I didn't..

    • @Seamonkey555
      @Seamonkey555 Před 2 lety +12

      @@merricat3025 they did that in The Crown as well so I couldn't finish it.

    • @heres1for2day
      @heres1for2day Před 2 lety +12

      Truth is not dramatic enough for Hollywood, but more to the truth, this is what I love about history. Truth isn't created, it's acted out and theater is the story of life written in history. Even if they aren't named, stories like this make me read and learn more than watch someone tell me the story, as I can see the way rather than have it implied.
      This is why I read history.

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 Před 2 lety +9

      Apparently I'm distantly related to these people. Very distantly.

    • @EDDIELANE
      @EDDIELANE Před 2 lety +4

      Downton Abbey almost. Totally!!

  • @judithmatthews8460
    @judithmatthews8460 Před rokem +21

    Gosh the upper class writer who thinks Diana was “made an example of” seems to miss the point that this woman took money from the Germans. Was so close to top Nazis that she was married in Goebells house! Her comments about the persecution of Jews were so loathsome I fail to see the “charm”. Jessica I can admire for her commitment.

    • @ChristopherWatkin-qr3xc
      @ChristopherWatkin-qr3xc Před 10 měsíci

      She never took money from the Germans or supported racial persecution of Jews.

    • @mikhailbabushkinum
      @mikhailbabushkinum Před 7 měsíci +1

      Diana was undeniably a charming and charismatic woman

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 25 dny +2

      @@mikhailbabushkinum not really. Nazis aren't.

  • @johnecoapollo7
    @johnecoapollo7 Před 2 lety +188

    Excellent documentary on a fashinating subject. I only wish the other four sisters Nancy, Unity, Deborah and Pamela were included. All six girls led interesting lives touched by the turmoil of the era.

    • @divasbraidz
      @divasbraidz Před 2 lety +5

      Nancy and unity were included

    • @johnohara197
      @johnohara197 Před 2 lety +9

      The title of this documentary is 'A tale of 2 sisters' that's why the focus is on Diana and Deborah , it's about family relationships , the above title is misleading to a point.
      Thank you

    • @takohamoolsen2432
      @takohamoolsen2432 Před 2 lety +2

      With the Mitfords, it could be a mixture of both.

    • @corryjookit7818
      @corryjookit7818 Před 2 lety +14

      They' were not as good looking as detailed here. Why do people from the upper classes often have such a low standard when it comes to looks and intelligence.

    • @supernova7848
      @supernova7848 Před 2 lety +11

      @@corryjookit7818 because they are following the Aryan standards of beauty. I didn’t find them particularly pretty. Their faces are just round and flat , bland looking to me

  • @christianfournier6862
    @christianfournier6862 Před 2 lety +55

    The book by Mary S. Lovell: “The Mitford Girls; The biography of an extraordinary family”, makes for a marvelously entertaining reading. Beats watching any TV series!

    • @MsJaytee1975
      @MsJaytee1975 Před 2 lety +1

      That book is one of my favourites, I highly recommend it.

    • @Schmoopy66
      @Schmoopy66 Před rokem

      Or hearing that awful voice from one of the commentators! Cringe.

  • @thelastsausage635
    @thelastsausage635 Před 2 lety +41

    Nancy Mitford’s books The Pursuit of Love and Love in a Cold Climate are semi autobiographical and describe their eccentric childhood really well, so funny and charming too🇬🇧

    • @Triple5live
      @Triple5live Před rokem +3

      Watching it on youtube at the moment. Fantastic.

  • @cuteincolour4289
    @cuteincolour4289 Před rokem +9

    I came here after watching Peaky Blinders. This is a great story of the sisters, there's a book/movie/TV show here. Great doco.

  • @mclarenscca
    @mclarenscca Před 2 lety +26

    My 53 yr old brain is always learning something new, and this channel is at the forefront of this! Thank you!

  • @zackkilgore528
    @zackkilgore528 Před 2 lety +64

    Fascinating how two Aristocrats wound up subscribing to Ideologies that loath them, wonder if it was self hatred or some sort of youth rebellion thing that drove them

    • @magicpyroninja
      @magicpyroninja Před 2 lety +16

      Kind of like how the rich kids are doing the same thing today.
      I went to all the top schools in my family's rich and I'm worth well over a million dollars but I'm going to wear a eat the rich dress because I want the peasants to think I'm with them

    • @clairepeace5783
      @clairepeace5783 Před 2 lety +3

      @@magicpyroninja wtf are you on ?? 🇬🇧 this has nothing to do with American rich or poor or American history ?? This is history and about aristocracy of which there is none in America lol 😆 oh I forgot you have The Kardashians 😂 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
      @oldishandwoke-ish1181 Před 2 lety

      Fascism doesn't loathe aristocrats and the wealthy, that the (in practice insincere) claim made by Communism.

    • @gavintuesday4959
      @gavintuesday4959 Před 2 lety

      @@magicpyroninja until of course, it’s time to marry . One must marry n breed well. You be chasing the rich man so all you got to do is lie on your back and dream of England

    • @gavintuesday4959
      @gavintuesday4959 Před 2 lety +4

      @@clairepeace5783 no one was talking about America

  • @katwalkable
    @katwalkable Před 2 lety +34

    This was very interesting thanks. Jessica Mitford wrote a book called the Fine Art of Muckraking. I know because my mother met her in San Jose, CA and did the artwork for the bookcover. This book wasnt mentioned but it was after the American Way of Death.

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler Před 2 lety +10

    Diana was understandably traumatized by her time in prison. Her husband, on the other hand, once told an interviewer, "After Winchester, prison was nothing."
    (Winchester was his childhood boarding school.)

  • @blauth
    @blauth Před 2 lety +42

    Absolutely brilliant documentary; I knew nothing of this family. Thank you for making this available.

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk Před 2 lety +25

    I had a friend, the celebrated Irish historian, Professor R B McDowell, who once went on a boat trip with Lady Mosley. McDowell was shivering because of the cold wind, complaining that he hadn't dressed warmly enough. Lady Mosley replied that it had been much colder in 'Brixton nick' during the war.

    • @acerrubrum5749
      @acerrubrum5749 Před rokem

      Diana and her husband received privileged treatment while in prison. Winston Churchill granted permission for the couple to live in a small house inside Holloway Prison. They were given a small garden where they could sunbathe and grow their own vegetables. They were even allowed to employ fellow prisoners as servants.

  • @gregoryh3270
    @gregoryh3270 Před 2 lety +19

    I enjoyed this! As a kid I remember my father talking about The American Way of Death over the dinner table. As an adult I enjoyed the revised edition, then learned that Jessica lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, as did we. Later I found the 'latest' book covering their amazing lives. (There are many.) So they'll always be "good copy"!

  • @steveweinstein3222
    @steveweinstein3222 Před 2 lety +25

    Had they lived in an earlier - or later - age, the Mitford Sisters would be known, if at all, as beautiful, intelligent, upper-class twits. But they came of age in an evil decade, and they passionately took sides, which has made them immortal. If there's one quote (among so many) that capture the family gestalt, it was the retired nanny who, on hearing that Jessica had run away to Spain, exclaimed, "But she hasn't the right CLOTHES to fit in."

    • @richardwyse7817
      @richardwyse7817 Před 2 lety +2

      Joyce opined,"we simply must dress the character".....

  • @einezcrespo2107
    @einezcrespo2107 Před 2 lety +87

    Thank you for posting. I love reading about this terribly dysfunctional family though honestly they all could've used some family counselling. What a family! While Jessica and Diana were the most notorious I think the biggest survivor was Deborah the youngest daughter who was a witness to all of the drama her older sisters wrought onto the family. To be honest that rivalry is what tore this family apart. Debo came out on top and mostly unscathed as The Duchess of Devonshire and was the driving force of Chatsworth. There's not much is written about Pamela the Rural Mitford apart from her love for cooking and being the reliable sister despite the ruthless teasing of Nancy and Diana.

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 Před rokem +5

      Agreed, and would add I cannot stand Diane. Even later in life, she excused Mosley and Hitler's fascism. Disgusting. Unity was no loss.

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 Před 2 lety +8

    I was not looking for this I just stumbled upon it and could not stop watching ! Very Addictive !!

  • @citizen1163
    @citizen1163 Před 2 lety +4

    The Mitfords ..endlessly fascinating.
    So many pics & footage I've never seen before. Marvellous!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @Smoker2110
    @Smoker2110 Před 2 lety +13

    The woman with the little girl voice is really annoying

  • @cq9882
    @cq9882 Před 2 lety +46

    Throughly enjoyed this documentary. Not a lot on the Mitfords in this way. Nancys adaptions from her books into TV or movies were excellent. Agree with other comments we need a series, not unlike The Crown. 👏

    • @billscannell93
      @billscannell93 Před 2 lety +8

      Definitely. The whole story would make a great series. There are so many strange and eccentric characters involved...

    • @johnchalmers9234
      @johnchalmers9234 Před 2 lety +1

      ''

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 Před 2 lety +105

    These young ladies remind me of my grandmother Gusti Stridsberg, the Austrian heiress, journalist in Moscow, communist collaborator, nurse and journalist in the Spanish Civil War, Soviet agent in Stockholm and writer. Her best selling autobiography, 'Menschen, Mächte und ich' was translated into English as 'My Five Lives' and into Swedish as "Mina fem liv'. Her love life rivaled that of Dr. Zhviago, her adventures those of Indiana Jones. Like many of her generation she left a life of comfort and security to devote herself to the struggle for democracy.

    • @AradSP
      @AradSP Před 2 lety +4

      Was she really your grandmother?

    • @jiyushugi1085
      @jiyushugi1085 Před 2 lety +17

      @@AradSP She was indeed. She was my mother's mother. There's also some interesting recently revealed information about her activities in the book 'Mrs Petrova's Shoe', by Wilhelm Agrell, none of which she mentioned in her memoir....

    • @Seamonkey555
      @Seamonkey555 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh, looking for her book!

    • @johnecoapollo7
      @johnecoapollo7 Před 2 lety +21

      >devote herself to the struggle for democracy
      >Soviet agent in Stockholm
      Well kudos to her for going to the goddamned Spanish Civil War, that must have taken serious chops, I won't even try to dispute that but being a Soviet Agent wasn't fighting for Democracy in any way, shape or form.

    • @tylerbozinovski427
      @tylerbozinovski427 Před 2 lety +26

      Did you literally just describe a communist as fighting for democracy? 🤣🤡

  • @gingerbaker4390
    @gingerbaker4390 Před 2 lety +17

    As a avid historian, I remember reading bits and pieces about the Mitford sisters. I just gave up. They seemed to me, a mystery wrapped up in a enigma.

    • @finallythere100
      @finallythere100 Před 2 lety +2

      In the movie Shadowlands (CS Lewis and his wife Joy) , Joy reflected on the narrative of that (pre WW2) era as, you were either a fascist and destroying the world or a Communist and saving the world. But neither were based on biblical values or Democracy. Was this just the narrative of the intellectual elite, bc I don't recall, from my parents, grandparents, or any other source, that reflecting the mainstream citizens in the USA. Please feel free to share your perspective, Thanks!

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 2 lety +1

      what is mysterious about them? God knows they have written a lot about themselves.

    • @goldilox369
      @goldilox369 Před 2 lety +1

      @@finallythere100 loved that movie. And I'm fascinated by the prewar (WW2) period in all the nations. Nothing happens in a vacuum, so they say...

    • @finallythere100
      @finallythere100 Před 2 lety

      @@goldilox369 - For sure. One book that is not as interesting on a personal level as Shadowlands (except in the beginning) is Bella Dodd's book School of Darkness (and her testimony to Congress in 1953, a bit of it on CZcams.) All of the pre-WW2 dynamics are complicated, but the issue of the growing influence, and infiltration and spread off Communism in the early 20th century is really key. she goes into incredible detail as she documents how this all happened in the USA. ..... She reportedly also revealed that she was directly involved in the Communist infiltration of the US seminaries (happened in other countries as well, hence the 2 very short books Alta Vendetta and AA 1025 The latter includes the former, which is out of print...). All eye openers as to pre WW2 politics !

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 2 lety

      @@finallythere100 certainly in the 1930s, there was a rivalry between Communism and Fascism. Democracy and captialism seemed to have failed and more radicial solutions seemed to be necessary. Younger people beleived in socialisim or communism and it seemed like the only way of feeding the masses and creating a new world.

  • @CZA27
    @CZA27 Před 2 lety +28

    Oh I’ve been obsessed with tales of these ladies. Thank you for posting

  • @Adrian-zd4cs
    @Adrian-zd4cs Před 2 lety +9

    What an incredibly crazy, intriguing and sad story!
    Thanks for this upload!

  • @chuckabbate5924
    @chuckabbate5924 Před 2 lety +18

    These are wonderful documentaries, and stories that are dynamite

  • @ellie698
    @ellie698 Před 2 lety +3

    A fascinating documentary, thanks for uploading.

  • @poetcomic1
    @poetcomic1 Před 2 lety +19

    I love how the two sisters battled it out at the family estate one scratching swastikas on the window with her diamond ring, the other scratching hammer and sickle with her diamond.

    • @leedoss6905
      @leedoss6905 Před rokem +2

      No kidding, neither had a clue.

    • @user-fq3fy2zh6h
      @user-fq3fy2zh6h Před rokem +1

      For the millionth time it was not swastika it was hakenkreuz.!! It is seriously offending as a hindu when you refer to the hakenkreuz as the swastika. They are two entirely different thing. When will the west learn, smh. 🤦‍♂️

    • @poetcomic1
      @poetcomic1 Před rokem +1

      @@user-fq3fy2zh6h Another victim of microaggrression! Call an ambulance! Call a grief counselor!

    • @user-fq3fy2zh6h
      @user-fq3fy2zh6h Před rokem

      @@poetcomic1 Continue with your stigmatised propoganda.. i wouldn't want to indulge with you here on 💁‍♂️

    • @poetcomic1
      @poetcomic1 Před rokem +2

      @@user-fq3fy2zh6h Do Hindus want to join the ranks of the 'aggrieved'? I am so disappointed to think so.

  • @stephenmcpadden3770
    @stephenmcpadden3770 Před rokem +3

    Diana’s son Desmond Guinness lived where I grew up, Leixlip castle, outside Dublin. A true gent in every way. He passed away in 2020. It was a huge loss to the community. He had many interesting guests at the castle, from the stones and Marianne Faithful to Jerry Hall.

  • @Meeckle
    @Meeckle Před 2 lety +6

    Great documentary. Learned a lot, thank you very much.

  • @jonasirw1
    @jonasirw1 Před 2 lety +6

    That woman Hope (journalist/ commentator) has the most jarring little girl voice

  • @radiofreeamerica1864
    @radiofreeamerica1864 Před 2 lety +3

    The lisping commentary lends an otherworldly sense i cannot fully express. One can only athumme that they dethperately needed the employ.

    • @SuperStella1111
      @SuperStella1111 Před rokem

      As it happens the Mitfords lisped. Couldn’t pronounce their “r”s. And had reedy, thin voices, in received pronunciations.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Timeline ,
    Dan Snow , U know nowt !
    🐺

  • @ytsm
    @ytsm Před rokem +3

    Excellent documentary! Although, I am surprised this story has not been made into a movie.

  • @larrydugan1441
    @larrydugan1441 Před 2 lety +32

    Very interesting. Interesting how gullible yet otherwise intelligent people get caught up in totalitarian horrors.
    Are we on the cusp of similar political polarization?

    • @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762
      @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762 Před 2 lety +3

      Seems we've entered a new political era, as we see here in the United States are watching the slow implosion of the Demacrat party. What will rise from it's ashes is the new socialist Democrat party, which will play a key role in a basic income etc. A parallel economy is coming to fruition based off of cryptocurrency, and free market capitalism, which offers the incentives for innovation in new technologies products and production process's. As for the republican party it's being reshaped into the national populist republican party. Trump 2024!!! Seems the prolitariat revolution has been subverted by the tech revolution. I just hope the virtual reality utopia doesn't become a real life distopia. Definitely an interesting time to say the least.

    • @lizroberts1569
      @lizroberts1569 Před 2 lety +4

      That’s what populism and monetary crash bring about, or in our case Brexit & COVID

    • @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762
      @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762 Před 2 lety +3

      @@lizroberts1569 seems as of covid has led to a great realization seems planner. Have you read about event 201, agenda 2021 and agenda 2030? Its very interesting to say the least. Yuri Bezmenov has a great lecture on today's political scenario. Also Steve Turley has a podcast he's is the most accurately in my opinion, you should check him channel out.

    • @geanettepartington691
      @geanettepartington691 Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, we are.

    • @Nonameforyoudangit
      @Nonameforyoudangit Před 4 měsíci

      Not the cusp - the great polarization is here.

  • @71ibanez
    @71ibanez Před 2 lety +12

    Has there ever been a tv drama series about the Mitfords?….if there hasn’t there should be,imagine how good that could be?

    • @torontoson6954
      @torontoson6954 Před rokem +1

      Diana was a character featured in the Netflix series peaky blinders along with Mosley

    • @ChristopherWatkin-qr3xc
      @ChristopherWatkin-qr3xc Před rokem +1

      ​@@torontoson6954 that was complete fiction.

    • @mrsentencename7334
      @mrsentencename7334 Před 6 měsíci

      @@torontoson6954 They did them so wrong in that show. Unfairly used the names i think.

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 Před 2 lety +10

    Why do these sisters not have a feature film or BBC miniseries yet?

  • @wendybusby9415
    @wendybusby9415 Před 2 lety +2

    I am glad you are using the real names, I have read two books about this family, and it was confusing using all their nicknames and secret language.

  • @neilmoore7194
    @neilmoore7194 Před 2 lety +20

    V. interesting, I knew Decca quite well the last 10 years of her life. It was more complicated than this film show. Overall, a good documentary

  • @gus3247365
    @gus3247365 Před 2 lety +18

    The Mitfords, what an interesting family. I've never heard of them until now .. why were they never talked about in the other historical material that I've watched over the years?

    • @jennifer60515
      @jennifer60515 Před rokem

      Same here, I love history and I had never even heard of them until today. Now I want to learn everything that I possibly can about them.

    • @1234cheerful
      @1234cheerful Před rokem

      because 2 of them might have been considered traitors by some? They are kind of a case unto themselves, I think.

  • @wandajames6234
    @wandajames6234 Před 2 lety +24

    They were basically spoiled hothouse flowers who had a sort of inbred education broad in subject but narrow in variety of human interaction.... in their formative years no one ever ran up against them in debate other than each other or their extremely narrow circle. It gave them a sense of over self-importance. It made them bizarre.

    • @lr5450
      @lr5450 Před 2 lety +2

      Certainly not Jessica.

    • @SuperStella1111
      @SuperStella1111 Před rokem +3

      Yes, but not Jessica. She turned out beautifully. Humane and clever. Well-educated and kind.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 25 dny

      @@SuperStella1111 hmmm

  • @christinalogan311
    @christinalogan311 Před rokem +4

    Excellent documentary. I find the Mitford sisters fascinating.

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 Před 2 lety +7

    An interesting side line of study would be; children who grow up in relative isolation and their propensity to live an adult life of slight eccentricity.

  • @salomemalherbe677
    @salomemalherbe677 Před 2 lety +16

    But when I listen to the affectatious language mannerisms of this video I fear for the worst ... simply too much NARCISSISM

  • @phillylifer
    @phillylifer Před 2 lety +14

    Her calling her aunt a snake shows just how poisoned the family still is. Too much privilege.

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 Před 2 lety +18

    When Hope started talking I had to quit watching

    • @haroldofcardboard
      @haroldofcardboard Před 2 lety

      ek torombo rikkidoon vild sopitam~sopitam, zik orst achamba!

    • @PLuMUK54
      @PLuMUK54 Před 2 lety +3

      I struggled, being partly deaf I understood about half what she said, and even that was so inane that I don't know why she was included.

    • @CrazyCatLady84
      @CrazyCatLady84 Před 2 lety +1

      Same,even though the story seems to be a very interesting one

    • @geoffmorris1769
      @geoffmorris1769 Před 2 měsíci

      Dire voice. Not her fault but still dire.

  • @TheEhreilly
    @TheEhreilly Před 2 lety +19

    I thought that lady's voice was annoying enough, but then to describe the Republicans in the Spanish Civil war as 'revolutionaries' tipped it over the edge. How can you be expected to take anything she says seriously?!

    • @Russophile30
      @Russophile30 Před 2 lety

      Democrats are more revolutionary than Republicans.

  • @grybnyx
    @grybnyx Před 2 lety +3

    I guess the background music never stops.

  • @gillraven-pipes4930
    @gillraven-pipes4930 Před 2 lety +7

    Thank you, a very interesting documentary, I had heard of the Mitford sisters, but only knew about Nancy. I am amazed they are not well known historical figures.

    • @1234cheerful
      @1234cheerful Před rokem

      I knew there were at least 3 who were noteworthy, didn't know there were actually 6 of them.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 16 dny

      They are well known

  • @saragarratt4397
    @saragarratt4397 Před 2 lety +7

    Absolutely fascinating family - all characters in their own right, parents too.

    • @ellebelle8515
      @ellebelle8515 Před rokem

      Yes, from the biography I am presently reading, the parents had extremely interesting lives and personalities- as much so as any of their children.

  • @anthonysmith8556
    @anthonysmith8556 Před 2 lety +6

    Great story but I'm pleased Hope Whitmore didn't do all the talking, I'm not sure if that voice is put on, I hope so!

    • @fabulousnewt770
      @fabulousnewt770 Před 2 lety +3

      Couldn't hear a word she said.. tried with headphones and realised she wasn't saying anything of worth anyway.

  • @darger3
    @darger3 Před 2 lety +9

    Incredible. What a bizarre and fascinating story.

  • @rosaliegolding5549
    @rosaliegolding5549 Před rokem +2

    Have always been fascinated with the Mitford sisters , great Documentary 👏👏👍

  • @tinachandler3091
    @tinachandler3091 Před 2 lety +46

    This was very interesting. I'm glad to see a documentary on them

  • @wb6004
    @wb6004 Před 2 lety +10

    It doesn't rate such dramatic music.

  • @spencerdodds2207
    @spencerdodds2207 Před 2 lety +8

    I wish these documentaries would loose the demented dramatic bloody music.

  • @davegadge1
    @davegadge1 Před 2 lety +3

    What an amazing channel.........wow

  • @lb8781
    @lb8781 Před 2 lety +41

    "Froth and darkness" it is. Ultimately the arrogance of self-esteem and hubris inculcated by their childhood privilege and neither one can overcome the fascination by the dictatorship of the state... on either extreme. The great equalizer in these women is their craving for attention and importance in competition with each other. Rather dismal, stunted and unbending characters.

    • @jonathanwarrenberg9260
      @jonathanwarrenberg9260 Před 2 lety +10

      How were they on opposite extremes? Both believed in socialism, one National Socialism of the Nazis, the other International Socialism or Communism. Both on the far left of politics, both murderous authoritarian regimes, both financed by American banks.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel Před 2 lety +6

      @@jonathanwarrenberg9260 The irony is that the "far Left" socialist ideologies always end with a small, hereditary, rich, entitled socialist elite and everyone else treated as peasants. It's no wonder they're so appealing to children of the elite.

    • @jonathanwarrenberg9260
      @jonathanwarrenberg9260 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DrCruel Indeed.

    • @gavanwhatever8196
      @gavanwhatever8196 Před 2 lety +9

      @@jonathanwarrenberg9260 That's an interesting dance, stepping the Nazis all the way from far right to far left.

    • @MrTaxiRob
      @MrTaxiRob Před 2 lety +8

      @@gavanwhatever8196 right wingers never acknowledge their own trash, unless they can themselves get on TV while storming the Capitol (look Ma, no brains!) And even then they blame cosplaying antifa for it, because they are cowards.

  • @IKEMENOsakaman
    @IKEMENOsakaman Před 2 lety +4

    Wow! This puts light on things that I've never thought about today!

  • @peterbaxter2913
    @peterbaxter2913 Před 2 lety +12

    I am certain that Hope Whitmore is quite a delighful young lady - but the pitch of her voice needs dropping by a fifth - at the least.

  • @jacksonreilly3441
    @jacksonreilly3441 Před rokem +1

    For Unity's story, the best book I've read is HITLER'S VALKYRIE by David Litchfield.

  • @facelessqueenie8873
    @facelessqueenie8873 Před 2 lety +4

    Cool documentary 👌, just can't concentrate with tinkerbel chipping in. Lol no offense to her.

  • @californiadreamin8423
    @californiadreamin8423 Před 2 lety +37

    Interesting in a sickly sort of way. It’s difficult to believe that they had an education and in that respect they were failed by their parents. Born into wealth and privilege , without a real education, is perhaps the explanation for their differing lives.

    • @banks3388
      @banks3388 Před 2 lety +25

      A ton of college students go Commie and that's primarily because of the education they receive on college campuses...

    • @pwx13
      @pwx13 Před 2 lety +26

      That's illogical, home schooled kids today have a massive advantage vs the state schools. I would never send my kids to a public school, as I don't want them Lgbtq indoctrinated

    • @johnschunk3412
      @johnschunk3412 Před 2 lety +24

      @@poolofstuff Big difference between rights and forced indoctrination

    • @Jinka1950
      @Jinka1950 Před 2 lety +5

      This naive wealthy gals….searching for a purpose. Theses gals were the precursor to Hanoi Jane Fonda…..not sure what they accomplished.

    • @poolofstuff
      @poolofstuff Před 2 lety +8

      @@johnschunk3412 what exactly is being indoctrinated?

  • @haruhisuzumiya6650
    @haruhisuzumiya6650 Před 2 lety

    I love how the tone changed when she became Entranced with sir Oswald Moseley

  • @artistinbeziers7916
    @artistinbeziers7916 Před 2 lety +3

    The clip of film at 44' is NOT the wedding in question; it is film of a wedding in the 1950s. Could be said to be more than a little misleading.

  • @capt.molyneaux7037
    @capt.molyneaux7037 Před 2 lety +7

    Excellent docu. (You might have mentioned the one brother, killed in W2, was also a fascist.)

  • @iain5615
    @iain5615 Před rokem +3

    Both communism and fascism share some core idealistic ideals and so are not poles apart. Yet the differences make them hate each other - a bit like Protestantism and Catholicism 500 years ago.
    They both are deeply wedded to the belief that the state is all important and that all assets under the regime must work solely for the benefit of the state.
    Morality itself is subject to the needs and objectives of the state and any transgression is not forgiven and the death of citizens is completely acceptable to achieving those needs.
    They share the belief that people are the products of nurture and not nature. That all beliefs and thoughts are purely reached based on their environment and not by any innate understanding or psychological predispositions. As such they believe education and reeducation centres can train people to conform to the state's demands. In reality the state achieves this by oppression and people hiding their beliefs to pass the state requirements.
    There are other similarities, but there are distinct differences. Communism believes all assets must be owned by the state and directed solely by the state. Fascism doesn't care about the details of how the assets work, only that they meet the objectives set by the state.
    In addition, in fascism the state works for the betterment of the country and works solely for the country. It cares nothing for mutual win win solutions with other nations, only that its own nation succeeds even if it treads on others. Communism on the other hand looks to unite the proletariat of all nations under one regime.
    Communists and fascists of the 1930s hated each other because one looked solely to the betterment of their own nation above all else, while the other would happily throw the needs of their nation away for the betterment of the proletariat as directed by Moscow (the centre of the communist regime). Those fundamental beliefs were chalk and cheese and it is from this that the hatred arose. They saw everything that they hated upheld by the other side despite having nearly the same ideals on how to achieve their objectives.

    • @alexelric7020
      @alexelric7020 Před 23 dny

      This may be late for a reply, but no, in the nature vs nurture debate Fascists tend to side with nature while communists side with nurture. The basis of fascism is that there are groups of people who are superior, and others who are inferior by birthright. Nurture and environmental factors is the realm of socialist thought.

  • @Playsinvain
    @Playsinvain Před 2 lety

    Wow, this story just spins deeper and deeper

  • @elizabethannegrey6285
    @elizabethannegrey6285 Před 2 lety +9

    Wherever did you find the young lady narrator with blonde hair and that voice?

    • @jockiron
      @jockiron Před 2 lety +3

      Voice of a baby girl!

    • @Buster_Piles
      @Buster_Piles Před 2 lety +2

      At the bottom of the garden with the other fairies.

  • @termztzu5208
    @termztzu5208 Před 2 lety +20

    Hopes voice made this unwatchable what in the name of cebeebies was her voice about

    • @haroldofcardboard
      @haroldofcardboard Před 2 lety

      ek torombo rikkidoon vild sopitam~sopitam, zik orst achamba!

    • @Buster_Piles
      @Buster_Piles Před 2 lety +1

      I agree. She'd be suited to voice a care bear but nothing more serious.

    • @moniquem783
      @moniquem783 Před 2 lety +5

      Isn’t it awful! There was a girl at my school whose voice never matured. She still sounded like a little girl when she was 18. I would think it’s probably a medical issue, perhaps a hormone imbalance of some sort.
      The chief health officer in Queensland can’t say her r’s properly. They come out as w’s. Evewy twavellew must have a test priow to awwiving in Queensland. Ugh. I can’t listen to it. So glad I don’t live in Queensland!
      I also struggle with a lot of American women’s voices. They’re so harsh and screechy. This baby voice is probably worse though.

  • @philsooty61
    @philsooty61 Před 2 lety +8

    A totally weird family with none of the worries of the working class people they supposedly aligned themselves with, if they where true believers in what they preached then they would have given away their wealth but they didn't, it was all just a game to them, I have no time for any of them except Deborah who I met when I was a child on a school trip to Chatsworth House, she was a very nice Lady!

  • @cheyenneasiafoxe292
    @cheyenneasiafoxe292 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonderful woman's documentary

  • @discod
    @discod Před 2 lety +2

    Isn’t this just part of a longer documentary? I swear I saw all of these interviews before.

  • @jelena7604
    @jelena7604 Před rokem +4

    Hope Whitmore does not possess the voice quality to be a commentator. Her voice is incredibly distracting.

  • @thiest1205
    @thiest1205 Před 2 lety +4

    Strange how all of this is only coming to light now, Dan, you could do a whole series on this Subject, just needs someone to put it all together, Unity and Diana Mitford, Prince George Duke of Kent, Edward and Wallis, their flirtations with fascism

    • @joejohnson6763
      @joejohnson6763 Před 2 lety +5

      Oh this has been known about for years and years. There have been quite a few books and documentaries over the years.

  • @xr7t7
    @xr7t7 Před 2 lety +9

    Supermodel Stella Tennant (R.I.P.) was the granddaughter of Deborah Mitford & Andrew Cavendish the 11th Lord of Devonshire.

    • @chicnoir29
      @chicnoir29 Před rokem +2

      So sad what happened to Stella. She left behind four children.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 25 dny

      duke of Devonshire.

  • @mattburns8839
    @mattburns8839 Před 2 lety +3

    I have often wondered if the Mitford sisters weren't at least part of the inspiration for House Tyrell in Game of Thrones. Well, except in real life Margaery ended up marrying Joffrey after all!

  • @madnatty
    @madnatty Před 2 lety +24

    I’ve just read a fiction book, The Mitford Sisters, and I had no idea it was based on a real family!

    • @beckyenglish4783
      @beckyenglish4783 Před 2 lety +9

      It’s non-fiction.

    • @lisadellaratta495
      @lisadellaratta495 Před 2 lety +2

      @@beckyenglish4783 that's what I was just about to say, lol

    • @eddiesroom1868
      @eddiesroom1868 Před 2 lety

      How stinking cute 🦒 Mr Giraffe

    • @madnatty
      @madnatty Před 2 lety +3

      @@beckyenglish4783 No, the one I read was “the Mitford murders’ by Jessica Fellowes, which is a fiction series featuring them all. I got the title wrong.

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 Před 2 lety

      I'm distantly related to these people... I've got the Mitford/Medford 3 black moles on silver coat of arms hanging in my dining room in fact.

  • @garethrogers8460
    @garethrogers8460 Před 2 lety +5

    Such a fascinating family.

  • @antoniomaruge8218
    @antoniomaruge8218 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams7440 Před rokem +1

    How silky of those girls to cling to their disagreements after the war There is nothing more important than the Family

  • @s.v.2796
    @s.v.2796 Před 2 lety +11

    A.N. Wilson is a brilliant author, much too underappreciated nowadays.

    • @Raydensheraj
      @Raydensheraj Před 2 lety +1

      His book on Darwin was so incredibly bad in every way that after reading it I wouldn't recommend his ideological, hyperpartisan and incredibly bad researched writing...

    • @shariwelch8760
      @shariwelch8760 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Hartley_Hare You sound like an idiot in love with himself in your comment, so.

  • @Palletknifepaint
    @Palletknifepaint Před 2 lety +5

    Snobs talking about snobs

  • @supernova7848
    @supernova7848 Před 2 lety +1

    Here after watching Episode 2 ,S6 of Peaky Blinders!

  • @havolei
    @havolei Před 2 lety +2

    The "background" music is very annoying , and not at all needed for the story to flow.

  • @somyod2u
    @somyod2u Před 2 lety +5

    On one hand the father had ' money problems ' but on the other, managed to finance the building, and furnishing, of a large house.

    • @zackkilgore528
      @zackkilgore528 Před 2 lety +3

      How do you think he got himself into money problems?

  • @johnvaleanbaily246
    @johnvaleanbaily246 Před 2 lety +13

    A good argument for the demise of the British aristocracy !

  • @MrConan89
    @MrConan89 Před 2 lety +2

    A pal of mine who is a member of the Guinness family tells me they were his great Aunts. A cousin of his father was Tara Brown, killed in a Lotus Elan in London - subject of the song lines 'he blew his mind out in a car' in the Lennon-McCartney song "A day in the life'. This chap is a 'remittance man' who never worked a day in his life. Unfortunately he was born out of wedlock so the remittence is quite small, ha ha.

  • @stephenheath8465
    @stephenheath8465 Před 2 lety +2

    1930's was a dangerous Decade with the Great Depression and the Spanish Civil War which was an Ideological Petri Dish.Crazy Times which look like we are heading

  • @cheyenneasiafoxe292
    @cheyenneasiafoxe292 Před 2 lety +5

    The one female historian with the baby voice is so affected...please no one talks like that...

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Před 25 dny

      Nobody talks like thet!! (Some Like it HOt)

  • @-themarwickshow6247
    @-themarwickshow6247 Před 2 lety +16

    A very good documentary. But why does the journalist a grownup woman talk like child...ridiculous.

  • @marshhen
    @marshhen Před 2 lety +2

    Where is the crown-like series on this family? This division so relevant to today's politics.

  • @patrickhicks9880
    @patrickhicks9880 Před 2 lety +1

    Nancy Mitford wrote a fantastic book about George Sand

  • @normalizedinsanity4873
    @normalizedinsanity4873 Před 2 lety +5

    “The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, and said "this is mine," and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows, “Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.”
    Jean Jacques Rousseau, The origins of inequality 1754
    "As for the virtuous poor, one can pity them, of course, but one cannot possibly admire them. They have made private terms with the enemy and sold their birthright for very bad pottage. They must also be extraordinarily stupid. I can quite understand a man accepting laws that protect private property and admitting to its accumulation, as long as he himself is able under those conditions to realize some form of beautiful and intellectual life. But it is almost incredible to me how a man whose life is marred and made hideous by such laws can possibly acquiesce in their continuance."
    Oscar Wilde 1898

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Před rokem +1

      Maybe the one guy got tired of his cow wandering off, or his neighbors tired of it trampling his garden. Or wanted to keep animals out. You think property started just when man said this plot is mine? What about wholectribes drivingboff other trines because the land was theirs or they wanted it under their control? People today are narrow minded and cant see their nose for their face. Its preposterous to think there was ever a time people didn't claim land as their own.

  • @DavidMacDowellBlue
    @DavidMacDowellBlue Před 2 lety +4

    04:20 Isn't everyone who ever lived born before, during or after the first world war? Quite literally everyone?

  • @angeliqueillstopprocrastin479

    Some reason why none of your videos have CC?

  • @beachrose88
    @beachrose88 Před 2 lety

    Def a series about Mitford

  • @thomasthomas2418
    @thomasthomas2418 Před 2 lety +24

    "The Mitfords: Stupid Girls Making Stupid Choices".
    Full stop.

    • @fabulousnewt770
      @fabulousnewt770 Před 2 lety

      They seem tedious and dull I dont understand the fuss about them.
      Am I missing something?
      Sound like a bunch of ego maniacs who simply loathed being ignored.

  • @celestialteapot309
    @celestialteapot309 Před 2 lety +6

    feeding a dog is symbolic of wanting something more earthy? Goodness madam control yourself.

  • @antoniomaruge8218
    @antoniomaruge8218 Před 2 lety

    Superb comentador 🙏🏼

  • @lowesonia8551
    @lowesonia8551 Před rokem +4

    I remember seeing an interview in France Of Diana at 80. Incredibly impressionable. Beautiful with fasciating voice, aristocratic consonance. I was completely fascinated.

  • @cdow9032
    @cdow9032 Před 2 lety +6

    Enjoying this story, but having great difficulty listening to the small blond girl with the lisp. If the story wasnt so fascinating, I'd have yo turn it off.