The ORIGIN of the Lord of the Dead
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- In Proto Indo European myth Manu sacrifices Yemo to create the world and man, however what happens to Yemo in the afterlife? Well he becomes Lord of the Dead or King of the Underworld. And in this video we will discuss this. This is the god of death in Indo European folklore and mythology, known as Yemo, Yuma, Yama, Yima, amongst many other names.
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References:
Alongside my previous videos and their references, so please check them out, I would also recommend reading
Lincoln, Bruce. Death, War, and Sacrifice: Studies in Ideology & Practice. 2nd ed. edition. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1991.
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0:00 Introduction
2:46 Indic Yama
5:54 Celtic beliefs of Donn and Emon
12:52 Germanic Ymir
16:24 The Persian Yima - it's complicated
20:38 The Greek is even more complicated
25:05 What does it all mean for the us when we die?
So do you want to know more about death, or dogs, or another god next?
My vote is for janus or njord!:) your videos are always a treat!
i would like to hear about the mother earth or the idea of a consort godess in general
@@clibfilm now that I would love to do, maybe my next video, or the one after. The Mother Goddess is so misunderstood
First vote is for any puppers videos of course BUT it would be great if you could do one on any of the earliest female PIE deities - Dyews and Degom come to mind (sun and earth goddesses) but their had to be many more - I’m just imagining as the daughters would go off and marry men from far off villages likely they took their fav goddess with them and wonder who they may have been.
@@cataphractus9800 we're getting a few votes for goddess videos, so I'll try and do one in the next week or three!
Talking about Mahābhārata you forgot to mention about one of the Protagonists, Yudhiṣṭhira, King of the Pānḍavas, who later becomes the Emperor of India, he is the Son of Lord Yamarāja, and not surprisingly he has a very interesting legend about his 'last path'
Yudhishtra was son of Dharmaraja.
@@amitkumarsharma9511 Dharmaraj is one of the names of Yamaraja as Yama is also the keeper of Dharma .
Fascinating subject John. My own video on this subject is taking a long time. I will talk more about the tree.
I’m looking forward to watching yours, there is just so much to say on this subject.
@@Crecganford Yes, even by briefly touching on the many aspects the video will be huge. it needs a book!
@@Survivethejive I agree, so little information on this subject, especially in English. Hence why your work is important.
I see a lot similarities between Osiris (Ausaur and suth(set). It’s amazing how all the stories of man are the same with different names and slightly different things here and there but the moral is always the same. Traditional suten means king in medu meter and also sut-an (sut anubis) was a name for the Dog Star which was believed to be traditional first male “deity” in Egypt. The Dog Star Sirius is also Osiris (ausaur)who is the lord of the dead and the first dying god in the Egyptian pantheon
My next video will show another link between a god none would consider as similar to Osiris, and Osiris. I hope you watch it.
@@Crecganford please do one how indo Europeans trained for war
@@ajithsidhu7183 That is challenging, as it is a huge subject. But I’ve a few ideas
@@Crecganford awesome man I will thank you for your content ! Your awesome !
In Hinduism Dog Star Sirius is Lord Shiva, Lord of Destruction
Thank you for the video! I really liked it and it is massively informative!
I especially liked the part about Celtic beliefs (both Gaul and Irish) Because they're so often left out by people
Thanks for adapting my idea into a video! Another solid addition to your catalogue!
Thank you,Sir, for your most appreciated work. Me, wandering since decades through the spiritual world of our Indo-European ancestors I want to express my highest esteem for your thoughtful and instructive journey to our most precious roots so much and sadly forgotten in the so called modern world. Best regards from a companion in search.
Not forgotten in india💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I always enjoy your videos. They are packed full of information I dont think I'd ever come across on my own! Thank you for making them!
I always listen to your videos at least twice. Packed with information. I know alot of these subjects but I ALWAYS learn something new from you. Great work. Survive the Jive is the perfect complimentary channel to this one. You're equals in my eyes.
I do talk to Tom occasionally and send him notes, and he has shared videos of mine on his Telegram I believe. His next video on Death will probably include some of my research.
I loved this episode :D
Thanks a lot!!
3:38 - Yama is a devata and a god king is how one should call him. He is the god king of nether world's and regions..
I didn't see a thumbnail video in your collection about the white and black bovines, I vote for those. Great video very well researched.
You are a gifted story teller with a charming voice. I am reminded on listening of American Gods audiobook.
Thank you!
Wow loved this so detailed leaving no questions to be answered. fascinating!
Thank you, I appreciate that feedback, it means a lot.
Very good videos! So much to learn that I did not know was there already to learn freely!
Thank you, there is so much written in so many ancient texts it is a challenge to find and link them together. But when you do you can build up an interesting picture of how these ancient societies understood their cosmos.
You need to do a video on Katha Upanishad. It would throw more light on the character of Yama/Yemo.
I was a teenage proto Indo-European but enough about me.
In the creation myth of the Kuba people of Central Africa Mbombo creates many man vomiting them. One of these man was called Loko Yima. Once the creation was complete and peaceful, Mbombo delivered it to mankind and retreated into the heavens, leaving Loko Yima to serve as "god upon the earth". Could it be that after hundreds of years, Loko Yima (Yemo) was demoted and became thus the king of the (now existing) underworld?
I grew up in a Death Cult. My Cousin Edgar Cayce lied and claimed he became a mystic in the Mountains of Kentucky with no teachers. He had teachers and a culture and a tradition which he completed betrayed. I realized as a child it was the Horses. It started in the Steppe with a Shaman. Why did this idea consume the Planet? "Horses, steel, leather, muscle, bone, blood and mud this is where we are from..." It's an old poem from the Roman Legion. My Father's taught their sons and so we are the last. Devil Hatfield told reporters New York city he was descended from Roman Soldiers and this was the origin of our culture. The literally laughed at him. Now we have DNA and every male in the Hatfield Family is y Chromosome Ev13. A Paternal bloodline very rare in England but ubiquitous in the Roman legions. Religions - all of them that dominate were spread by Horses. Without Horses Shaman- to Agni- to Zoroastrianism/Abrahamic and Hinduism and Buddhism. It's all the same is a cult of warriors.
I think that Remus, the brother of Romulus, originated from the same myths as Yemo, Yima, Yama, and Ymir.
Yes, I have made a video about this, and how the name is cognate with Yemo :) The video is called Proto Indo European Twins of Creation… enjoy :)
This is one area where I feel we could have a good long discussion. It's really rare for me to see someone delving into the topic like this. Yes, the Lord of the Dead in Celtic mythology seems to be Boadach the eternal who dwells on the island across the sea. The term "Boadach" here essentially just means "the old man." Which is interesting, because in Eastern Europe, you can connect a very similar term with the Lord of the Dead. I have argued that the Dziad or Didukh (Old Man) of Slavic folk traditions is in many cases interchangeable with Veles- the God of the Dead.
Fascinating af.
You didn't mention that in Christianity, Christ is also a lord of the dead. When he dies, he takes the keys to death, hell, and the grave from the prior lord of death. He is also voluntarily sacrificed, and, like Yemo, is kind of part man part god in some sense. This act would also signify Christ overcoming all other lords of death. Scripture often does this, explaining how God or Christ fulfills pagan prophesies to show how the God of the Israelites has supplanted the other gods and validated his position as supreme deity. We even see the Catholics continue to engage in the act of re-purposing older mythology and integrating it into Christianity.
“Chaos is a friend of no one” I feel like if your a day worshipper. Wholeness is understanding chaos is as dear as order and for me it is more valuable the feminine which all things come from
I believe chaos to the PIE speaking peoples was the thing they tried to remove from their lives, rather than seek happiness. Which is why I felt it was an appropriate fit for this story.
Great video! You should also check out Imra also, who is considered modelled on Yama and has parallel with Yima and Ymir.
Same hai bhai, Kalash's version of Lord Yamarāja
@@topg2820 Similar toh hai bhai. But a comparison of motifs among Yima, Imra, Yama of Rig Veda, and Yama of Puranas would provide a greater understanding of how this individual's myth evolved in the Indo-Persian world and its co-relation or even causative effect on other related Indo-European myth.
@@Dr.AnkurS Because Persian were come from a vedic tribe called Parsua, Persia is a Greek pronunciation. Even the name of Persian kings are not actually what we heard like: Cyrus, Darius, Xerexes, Acchamenis these are all greek pronun actual term is Kurush, Darayus, Kshyarsha, Hakshamanish. Even Zoroaster the founder of Zoroastranism has its actual name which is Jarathustra. Zoroastranism is exact like Vedic rituals just they worshipped Asura ( Ahura ) and we worshipped Bhagavana.
@@topg2820 Are ha vai, yeh same hi hai, sab vedic gods ko pujte the aur abhi yeh log chipka rahe hai, vedas/Sanskrit bahar se aya hai agar bahar se aya hai toh tumhare jagah pe vedic culture ka continuation kyu nhi hai aur Vedas me first vedic people bahar se aake India me rehena start kiya hai aisa kahi pe v nhi likha hai. Balki yeh likha hai kuch vedic tribe india se bahar chale gye the like Parsua, Paktha, Bahlika, Kamboja, Tushara, Darada, ( far north- west/ Central Asia ) Andhra, Cholas, ( southern India ). Meditation is the core vedic culture , till today the extreme knowledge of ancient spirituality you can only found in Indian text neither any ancient european nor any Central asian region.
@@Dr.AnkurS it's not evolved but devolved in a way, it kept changing meaning as it went westwards, what you are talking op has already talked about in his video
0:36 *descendants :)
Thank you!
David Anthony book you recommend is very informative.
Yes, it's a great book
I'm note sure to follow you about Menelas. It seems to me that, in the Homeric text, he is just said to be one of the glorious dwellers of the Elysian Fields, not rule there. And although the remark about Eschyles stating that they were more or less twins is interesting, there are many twin figures in mythology, enough for us not to have to suppose that it is because Menelas took some characteristics of Kronos as a lord of death.
(Apart from that, I discover your channel, and it is both very useful and very interesting, keep up the good work!)
Thank you, and thank you for all your comments. I do try to read them all and reply.
Oh, I wouldn't have thought that you did! It's very cool of you. I always try to comment if you make me think about something I've read that could be useful for the other viewers (more than you, given the great science you show in your videos).
Again a great video Jon. Could you explain more the role of Hades, Odin and Veles as lords of the death and underworld? How do they fit in?
That's a good idea, I will add to the list. Thank you!
@@Crecganford please do genetic adaptations in north india like punjabis
@@ajithsidhu7183 I know little of this, but have friends at the Crick Institute and will see what they can offer :)
@@Crecganford thanks ,please on Punjabi genetic adaptations
Was gonna add I heard somewhere that Hades was actually a Hellenistic borrowing of the Canaanite god of the underworld/death
This may sound silly, but it just realized the movie Zardoz is a variety of these stories.
The gods have built paradise where they are not permitted to die. This turned out to be a mistake. A mortal hero with the help of one of the gods sneaks into paradise and returns death to restore the natural order.
I wonder if there is some link between the lord of the dead and the sun, which was believed to travel through the underworld each night, and whose path is to the south of those in the northern hemisphere.
Great channel..just wish I'd discovered it earlier.
With cattle bring part of the PIE creation myth, presumably this means that their religion developed when the had become pastoralists.
Yes, that influenced a significant piece of religious evolution, and I will cover this when I make a video on the Mother Goddess soon :)
This brought an thought to me. In Finnish God is Jumala, and in Mari (smaller fennougrian group in Volga region) they call these spirits and the high god in their native religion as Juma, (J is spelled like Y in English) so there could be something nice here to find.
I believe Jumala means god, where Yuma/Yemo/Yama infers twin, and so I think this is just a coincidence. But good to point out so we can check.
There are no specialists in IEM.
It is all special.
There goes my career and qualifications!
First? This is always drop everything and watch viewing!!
Thank you!
I always confuse with this line: Manu and Yemo were neither Gods nor men. So what were they? And how come they existed before Gods if they're not the Creator. As I know, Yama is considered as Deva now, while Manu as progenitor of mankind, father of the Rsis that in turn became the fathers of Devas, Asuras, and other races. It confuses me as if those are mixed stories added to each others, or they presumably have greater story line that I never to realise
You're right that they have different "properties" in different cultures, as other influences have taken hold. I'll make a video explaining Manu and Yemo specifically, and what they were and weren't. Thanks for watching and the great question.
Learning vedic astrology helped me answer this and I now teach it, they are nakshatras ! Acausal vs causal states of being affects this as well
Lord Manurāja is not progenitor of Rishis, the Sapta-Rishis were on the Boat with him
John, I actually watched this in its entirety before, but didn't make the link between Yemo, and Yama, the Buddhist god of judgement and the underworld, who in Japan is called "Enma". DOH! I even visited the temple in Kamakura dedicated to him - "Enno-ji", to see the fearsome statue of him carved by Unkei, Japanese history's greatest sculptor.
I hadn’t made that link either, as my Japanese knowledge is very limited. I shall investigate. Thank you so much for sharing, very interesting.
@@Crecganford Yama is truly global. He made his way to East Asia via Buddhism & is the default "king of hell" & pretty much everyone knows his name {Yan-luo in Mandarin/ Yim-lo in Cantonese [from Yam-Ra(ja)] in Middle Chinese} & he's invoked to scare naughty children.
@@Jumpoable lol even children be like who is the mf is
Ymir might have slavic origin as MIR is popular among that culture, for example SlawoMIR, WladiMIR, GodziMIR, and MIRek or MIRoslaw
I think its possible that the Yemo, Manu, and Trito wound up mixed together as Minos, Rhadamanthus, and Aeacus in some capacity... or characters from those stories became wrapped up in them...
Aeacus sounds like he is Yemo, many other characters come from him including the legend of Europa so if we just exchange his physical body for his descendants he becomes the projenitor of Greece and Romen and Minoan civilization as well as all Europe.
Manu is some how Rhadamanthus I think. His story is of fleeing and setting down laws. Broadly speaking that is Manu's role, to set down laws to create order.
Trito I think is a weird, mixed up Trito. The story is clearly a raiding party story. Or maybe the hero that defeats the minotaur is Trito and Minos is Bull and Enemy? Minos's territory would have definitely been a reward for a hero. So wouldn't that mean that Greco-roman mythology has an enemy deciding the fates of the dead? That would also tie somewhat to the roll of El satan in the jewish myth to a degree. Interesting.
It is possible, as we see Manu and Yemo infused into Odin in Old Norse, so there is no reason why they couldn't have become part of ancient Greek mythology. Although Greek is so complex due to the amount of change and external influence, I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure.
Aecus could also be related to Ikshavaku. 🤔
20:10 Onwards You can see Tolkien's Númenórean from Lord of Rings were inspired by this Myth and Lore.
Regarding the myth of cutting body part to produce other thing, specifically the birth of aphrodite, can the hittite myth about kurmabi biting off anu genitals and then giving birth to teshub be associated with this?
Yes, much like the Greek myth, it has just evolved and been re-imagined.
well, sometimes youtube algoritme is useful. I'm so happy to have stumbled in this channel
Thank you for stumbling, and for watching my videos.
My son in Australia is Donovan. His name is connected with Donn. He lives in the south, and I live in the Philippines now (Mindanao) which is southeast of India. Maybe this is paradise!
It's the right part of the world
@@Crecganford It feels like paradise here, with the tropical climate, and lots of fruit!
I get the feeling that “south” was code for down, as in underworld. Like we see in Dante. Though the Irish did have four directional paradises.
The cow is the same cow that licked buri out of ice. Buri produced Borr, who sired Odin, who... well, you know...
Yes, it's the same cow, although it is a more agricultural rather than pastoral representation in the Old Norse stories
Is there any conception of death being a deterministic force...kind of like in the final destination movies? Like death being determinism
A great question! Certain cultures had this, the most well known is probably the Old Norse mythology of the Norns, who carved a persons destiny into the roots of their sacred tree. How you arrived there was up to you, but when you reached your fated moment then that was it.
@@Crecganford that's fascinating! Thank you
Does the PIE goddess Kolyo have a connection to the goddess Kali in the Indian context?
This is also similar to Osiris and Seth, it in a combat ritual, but the
I never realized Australia was paradise. :o)
Would Tasmania be even better than the mainland?
@@the_mowron Not for the aboriginal Tasmanians. Who decided to extinct themselves
In the KJV Bible, the king of hell is Abaddon/Apollyon. His Old Testament name was Baal. People worshipped Baal as a golden calf, although his appearance seems to be transformable into a Baphomet-like creature.
I wonder whether " Manu " might be denoting simply " mind / meinung " . for in Iranian creation mythology the evil God was called " Angra -Mainu " = Bad thinking . ?
I like the idea, however it is better understood within the context of Yemo (twin), and Trito (Third), and if so, the meaning of first man is probably a better fit
I think the idea of heavon, hell, paradise, and the devil was taken out of context thousands of years ago. Angra mainyu, angry mind, was just bad thinking. Throughout the years, it was translated to "evil god, or evil spirit".
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@@pufsinc3337 I agree with you , likewise " Lucifer " originally meant " light bearer " or "Genius / Daemon" meant "the individual man's inner guardian deity ".
@@majidbineshgar7156 its amazing how great of an influence the iranic or aryan people, with proto indo European background, had on world civilizations, and how little we know about it, and how little they got credit for it.
The is religious scholar gold.
Thank you!
Hmmm....that picture of Yama has a African Cape Buffalo instead of a Asian Water Buffalo!
Ah, but the picture is representative of the environment 6,000 years ago, when there was a small herd of African Cape Buffalo, confused by a sudden but temporary blip in the Earth's magnetic poles, who ended up migrating to Persia. OR so it said in the now lost manuscripts of the Great Buffalo Controversy...
@@Crecganford You should label jokes on CZcams. It is otherwise impossible to distinguish from obscurity (-:
Interesting that in the Hindu Kush Yemo became the supreme god as Yama Raja or Imre.
The cow in the creation myths really bothers me. It doesn't seem to do anything. My guess is that it's a remnant of an earlier stage where it had more of an active role. Maybe it was originally the sacrifice?
The cow was used for sustenance of Manu and Yemo in the agricultural/European myths, and used for the creation of animals and plants in the Eastern/pastoral myths. It was there because the cow had to be a gift from the gods, as every piece of it was useful. And this premise led the PIE speaking people to raid other culture's cattle as all cows belonged to them (in their belief system).
Cattle is the most useful animal, it has immense importance
I wonder about the concept of Paradise in the myth (and I don't know the myth), but it seems that Paradise is "always a day away" - close, but you never quite get there. A lot like Nirvana - close but can we get there? Maybe I'm totally off.
There are so many similarities from Hindus mythology.. how did it happen?? According to our Indian researchers Aryans were native to India.. there are also a theory, a very popular one that there was a out of India migration ..your thoughts??
There were migrations into India, and out, each with differing levels of influence. There are a few people asking for more information on this, and so I will make a video about it as soon as I can. Thank you for watching and your comment :)
It's the Sanskrit word 'Arya' which was anglicised as Aryan by western scholars and misunderstood as a race. The term Arya do not denotes any race but religious adherence. The first meaning of the term Arya is son/children of God. He/she whoever follows the Vedas are called Arya.
The scriptures of Sanatan Dharma are Vedas and Vedas are strictly monotheistic. Vedas also prohibits idolatory and Veneration of any material object.
Arya also means noble, powerful, pious etc.
Vedic literatures are not bounded to any particular geographical location.
Quick tip to those who need it. keep video at 1.5x and go to bed. Sleep cometh
Wait. Are you telling us that Helen of Troy is a representation of the primordial cow? Somehow that's hilarious
Not directly, but princesses took the place of cows in dragon myths in Europe.
I don't think I understand the difference in function between the death goddess and the lord of the dead, except that the goddess is a personification of death and the lord is not.
I wonder if the story of Cain and Abel has some distant relation to these tales; two primordial brothers, one being the first ever death?
This is something I'm asked a lot, and whilst my gut feeling is that it doesn't fit, I will research this and make a video about it one day. Thank you for watching, and taking the time to comment. It makes a difference :)
@@Crecganford You're more than welcome. I'm a new subscriber. I've also thought about this a lot but can never nail anything down.
And the First Murderer being a forever cursed individual? Sorry, but I think that you are trying to shoehorn things a bit. Remember, myths follow dream logic, which means {one,two,three,too_many} are all the numbers most of us can manage. This means that most myths will share the same set of numbers/digits.
@@Egilhelmson Yes of course and they borrow from each other too, I am just curious not attempting to force a connection.
Algorithm comment cuz!
Was Rig Vedic society a patriarchal society or Matriarchal society?
Sorry, I didn’t see this comment when you posted it. They would have been more patriarchal based.
Patriarchal hai bhai, you don't even have to ask, you yourself is carrying the surname of your male lineage
I thought Deus Pater came before Manu and Yemo
Manu and Yemo were considered primordial beings, and so before the gods in the original mythology. Gods existed because they existed.
while studying for my degrees in Anthropology, I learned that the names Manu/mantu/man or Banu/Bantu/Ban or some close variation tends to be the name of either the creater or the destroyer in over one third of ancient cultures. Nobody has had an explanation. Mine has been either a long forgotten lost culture that was so influential others used the name in their folklore or more likely it was a now forgotten constellation.
I do talk about the spread of the creation myth amongst IE cultures in my comparative mythology video which adds some evidence to why
It's really odd I found this video.
I was contemplating reincarnation the other day.
And while there is evidence for it( subjective on of you find it acceptable evidence)
Then it's important to find out the nature of it and how the other world relates to this one.
I came up with the idea that the other side needs to be settled to some extent.
So the settelment there can have correspondence with this side.
A d then we can find out more about what it's about
This is the story of cane and able taken out of ancient Babylon and Moses took it out of Egypt, cane and able were twins,able death was the first death.
This story is not seen as being linked to the story of Cane and Abel, and there is much academic literature supporting that view, even if some motifs seem similar. It is also much older than the story of Cane and Abel, so perhaps Cane and Abel developed from this story?
Yma is Noah? What about that idea. Flood of old world, progenitor of all new men after that.
Old man of the sea.
I think Yma was before Genesis, more of a Tiamat figure, the deep from the first couple of lines of Genesis.
i gave this one a double take
I hope because you liked it?
Sorry, I am going to disagree with you here. Vehemently so. The furies and/or the chthonic deities the Dis (´ai Des) are the proto-Indo-European afterlife originals.
The lack of twin figure among the Satem languages is easily explained: the proto-I-E never had that twin.
But the earliest farming communities, who spread agriculture in the Middle-East and Anatolia and the Southern Balkans: they had those twins. They also had a relatively unified culture, which permeated into both the Semitic cultures and the Centum-language cultures that came into contact with it. That is why the twins are found in Anatolian myths as much as Pre-Yawehdic myths. That is why the Etruscans imported them into Italy (they are originally from around Phrygia). The Germans and Celts probably inherited them from the ancestors that they shared with the Italians, when these came into contact with the Rhaetans (Alpine kin of the Etruscans).
If Neolithic Farmers influenced PIE, which they did, and they had twins, then how can you say PIE didn’t?
@@Crecganford I would agree with proto-Centum, but not with proto-Satem. Therefore no PIE. Add my point about the Dis/Des, and add the geographical limits of the cultural items related to the other neolithic farmers´ beliefs: the female/violin figures for the Mother Goddess, the bull god depictions: all are limited between Thrace and the fertile Crescent. To claim that the twins would excede that area before 4000 BCE (i.e. before PIE starts splitting up) requires special pleading.
PIE is prehistoric. How can you claim to know PIE beliefs with such certainty? Are you actually describing the beliefs of significantly more recent civilizations? The blending of beliefs of civilizations, eg Vedic and Celtic is obviously very problematic
In this video I'm showing texts, and so what I'm talking about here is not prehistoric. Where I do talk about people who speak PIE, as it's a language not a culture, I do often try to explain any inferences referencing sources of information to make such inferences. I certainly am very much aware of the changing landscape of cultures, religion, and population as history carves itself into our past.
@@Crecganford If PIE is a language, not a culture, why can conversion to it be seen in Scandinavia (except among the Finns, who kept a pre-Indo-European culture, techno-pack, and language because it wasn’t usable in the Finnish marshes) archeology? There was supposedly a wave of shifting from cairns to cremation that one could use to track the wave.
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European was populated by japhet the son on Noah,the tribe of Dan also came into Europe.all these myths and stories are of the original black hebrews/Mesopotamia, akkada,sumer,ethiopia,Europe does not had no civilization stories these are all from Ancient Babylon.
DNA and etymological analysis show that these stories come from the Black Sea area of Ukraine and Russia from around 8,000 years ago.
Your comment is entirely wrong, RasAsh1stNation.