Audiophiles still love iPods and so do I
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We love em because an aussie guy reminded us on how great these are
Person of culture, i see
UGH MY PKCELL
these dinguses do be really good
Damn that Aussie with his pet snake and his green iPad cover...Dragging us back to the stone ages 😅
5 bucks off from CASHIES
0:46 Seeing my Rockbox theme from 10 years ago on your iPod Classic (Googley-Classic-Storm) got me jumping out of my seat 😊 Glad you like it! I must confess, I haven't used my iPod classic in years.
P.S. Be careful with using the Classic with IEMs. If the latter have an impedance that is lower than 8 times the iPod's output impedance (which is about 5 ohms, IIRC) then the frequency response may be altered.
Wooa I Will ask the theme name! Using iPods again in Brazil!
Loved Rockbox. Thank you for being a part of the community
are there better alternatives or newer iPod Classics that you would recommend more?
@@alextechtai The very last model is the best model, as far as audio performance goes. For Rockbox, I don't know of a better option, especially if you modify the iPod or buy it already modified (e.g. with an SSD instead of a hard disk drive). Outside of Rockbox, I remember that the iPhone at the time (iPhone 5 or 5S) was slightly better. These days I mostly care about practicality and I just use my iPhone with bluetooth headphones.
@@alextechtaiiPhone 5/5S was a pretty good one. Still have my original 6G classic, but modded (big accu, SD card storage), love to rock that thing with my beyerdynamic 250 ohm DT990.
I still love my 160GB Classic. It is the jukebox in my old car.
That's what I want to use mine for, but there's a lot wrong with it and I don't really know exactly what. Tried to pry it open but I have the model that has like 50 clips around the edge which makes it nearly impossible to take apart, at least without damaging or scratching the exterior...
@@K9V1 Take it to an Apple store and get it looked at. I took in a broken one and they sold me a new (rebuilt one) for a good price, although that was in 2017.
can you please make video on how to install Rockbox OS.
Totally great idea, I give this a big thumbs up please DMS 👍
bro it's all out there on the rockbox official site
You download the rockbox utility, run it and follow the onscreen instructions.
Please
I love my iPods back then. Had a couple of "Classics" and a Nano. Those along with several early portable Fiio amps via the line out were golden for me then.
Many thanks, that was really good. I've got the last generation Classic and you have motivated me to use my IE600s on it as well. I love the design. I've got A&K SP3000 with HiRes music and a walk around SR35 but the Classic is a beautiful standalone.
I love my Classic because it's a musical snapshot for me from when I got my 3rd gen in 2003 my junior year at college to 2017, the last year I had loaded anything new on it.
I started really using it again last year after a couple year hiatus and it's still great even in stock form.
yes
I have 3 of them, but only use one -- in my alarm clock with the old-school iPod dock. Which was such a neat idea, i miss things like that.
But for personal carry, I converted my old phone into a DAP by removing and disabling everything but a single music app. Suddenly it had a surprising battery life left in it.
Shoutout to you for this, hadn't thought about using an old phone but it makes total sense.
@@anachronismic Apart from perhaps a better DAC, the insides are the same.
@@dragons_advocate Yeah, imma have to have a dongle dac in my case, but given I have both that and a phone sitting around it seems like it's easy to try out.
@@dragons_advocateas long as the dac has enough power to drive your headphones and no distortion it honestly makes no difference.
I did this with my old Galaxy S10E. Compact size, SD card slot and a headphone jack! Using a HiBy FC1 dongle for higher audio quality when I prefer it. I use Productivity Launcher for a minimal DAP-like experience and disable all other apps other than audio apps installed.
Honestly, I'm super happy with using Tidal or just shoving a load of my own files on my phone and playing stuff over a BTR5 - feels like the most convenient option for my use case really.
After digging out my old ipod touch a few weeks ago, I'm not sure I get why everyone is raving about using these old devices. If anything, the main enjoyment I've had out of digging out my old ipod has been listening to some old songs I had on there which I hadn't heard for the best part of a decade in some cases and definitely not on nicer gear. Between my desktop DAC and my little dongle
playing high res files and the stuff on my ipod played out of that, I much prefer the former so that's what I'll be sticking with.
My goal for the future is to build an offline library on a home server which I can either access online through something like Roon or by copying files across onto different devices. I suppose a dedicated music player could slot in somewhere in the future but it feels much easier just to spend a bit more on a phone with a tonne of storage for my music when I'm on the go.
This was a BRILLIANT video, please do more like this!
Extremely delighted to see Everything Everything as the artist being played on the iPod
Ditto what a pleasant surprise!
Rockbox? Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. Glad to see they’re still going ❤
I remember the sansa clip+ days
I just installed Rockbox on my sansa fuse+ they're sill going
Still run my 5.5 gen iPod with CF card conversion and custom housing. I keep 2 solid state converted models spare. They live in my cars lol. I also still keep my green iPod shuffle for bike riding.
I've been using a DAP of some form or other for around four years. Had I got an iPod classic back when they were still prevalent, it'd still be using it today.
I see they have a lot of merits, like repairability and recycling and price, something that is somewhat of a grey topic with modern DAPs, not many guides as of yet on the repair side due to the niche area.
Software wise, that all depends on what your library is mainly comprised of, rockbox is great if you can set it up right (personal experience hasn't been the best) to make it a stand alone device.
The main draw backs I've seen is the dated connection port and I can see people would like having bluetooth connection ability. There has been a project called Moonlit which has a new case back that circumvents both problems that I'm hoping to personally test at some point. If that proves to be a good deal, a modded iPod will become my travel DAP, better to lose something that can be kit bashed together than a modern device worth a few hundred more.
I got the FiiO KA13, their highest end USB dongle because I thought I needed that extra power. Later I didn't end up needing that much power and regretted my purchase an dwish I had the FiiO BTR 15 (wasn't a thing when I got the KA13) or a DAP. But since then I've been more and more satisfied with the KA13 and am happy with just that.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the iPod classic sixth gen because I still have mine with a laptop drive in it, and I’ve been thinking about either going towards the 5.5 general or just getting an SSD to install into this. Your video has helped sway my decision towards just getting an SSD for my current iPod.
Even for what it is, with just the bare bones mid tier JBL headphones I have from 2016, it still sounds so wonderful.
My favorite artists to listen to on it are the Beastie Boys, Bob Dylan, and The Aquabats! and mostly because the Beastie Boys have a song that is listed with sound testing in universities.
I always tell people if you can’t hear both the bumpin bass and the high keyboard note at the same time in Beastie Boys “Brass Monkey”, then your setup needs help .
Whilst I didn’t own an iPod classic in its heyday, I have a fondness for them due to how simple and easy it is to use and modify. I own a 5th Gen that got Frankensteined with a 7th gen front and hard-drive whilst getting a new screen and battery, but I haven’t touched it since iPods blew up again (thanks to the dankpocalypse (no shade, I was happy they got the recognition they deserved)) but seeing this video makes me want to dabble in the missing stuff again. Like putting flash storage in, or shove a Taptic Engine in for a little umph in my music choosing experience.
Loved the vid man! Thank you for showing off your cool iPod too 💪
I didn't know this was a thing. Some advice on what guide and hardware to use for modding an iPod would have been helpful.
For a good time, look up Dankpods for some of the hardware mods and repair.
There’s plenty of videos around for this :D the community has been great bringing iPods back to life 😊
You apparently don’t know google is a thing either
Fantastic! I dug out my old iPhone and it works perfectly. It has come back to life. Thanks!
I have a collection of ipods and other old music players that i've modded myself. I started because i wanted something to listen to while writing but without any possibility for distractions. And then i decided that one was not enough and that I should definitely have a bunch all with different types of music on them. Last one i got (and probably one of my favorites) is my Zune Halo edition. Either that one or my second gen iPod. Big bricks of music.
Recently picked up an early 2000 Sony MiniDisc Player. I love it. It forces you to be discerning with what music you'll take out.
People who listen to music on MD, DCC, MP3, Spotify and CZcams have hearing loss because they are incapable of detecting the loss of captured sound from these terrible formats.
I love minidisc bro! It's awesome!
@@manieartis2687 The minidisc is low quality just like the iPod, Spotify and CZcams. CDs and WAV files sound so much better because they capture all the sound.
@@judenihalOr people just enjoy physical media or free access to music
@@NolanEgbertthe Compact Disc is the way to go then
I have 3 ipods still in use! Including one in my car. Yes, Love them! They are still wonderful
I have loads of iPods, mainly Nanos, and 3 Classics (5th gen and 2 6th gen). Love them all and use them all.
My question still remains for DMS. You recommend DCA E3 for portable headphones. What pocket friendly DAP can you drive for DCA E3 for best sound quality?
Really cool that you can dual boot to either the standard Apple OS or Rockbox. I see from previous comments below that Rockbox supports FLAC instead of only ALAC like the Apple system. Nice. And love that you can drag and drop files instead of having to go through iTunes which was always a pain. How hard is it to load Rockbox on an older iPod? Is there a link to how to do that you could provide? I'm pretty sure the DAC chip and implementation in an iPOD can't compare to a "real" DAP but for casual listening when out and about on IEMs or easy to drive headphones, they were always a nice, easy to carry device. Thanks. I might have to dig mine out of the drawer now.
iPods, umm have 2 of them. A 20G Gen3 B&W and a 60G Gen3 Colour. The 60G is still in the car glovebox and only recently stopped serving as CarPod duties, attached to a BMW OEM head unit, in an ‘03 Coupe. Since Roon ARC was released this has been my go-to source, running on a iPhone Mini 12, I have access to my entire local library in whatever format & version I have stored it in, plus all of Tidal, at either CD, MQA or now FLAC HiRes. Dongle is a Ztella Pro MQA and IEMs are MP145 for mobile listening, and the iPod integration in the car, gives upto 24/48.
Local library is circa 9Tbytes of music, 110k albums but over 63% in 24-bit. Don’t see the need for the older tech here, unless you want to be nostalgic.
I've purchased a couple of Ipod Classics ever since they were first launched in the early 2000's but sold them all except for one, they were neat for the time but there was no proper 10 band EQ setting, just the terrible built in EQ presets, I still have fond memories of me enjoying so many songs on one tiny device which for the time was cutting edge in the early 2000's, but now is pretty standard.
Great video, even better hoodie!
I still have two iPod Classic, both with battery and storage updated. Rockbox has some limits (the battery estimation you mentioned is very annoying), but it is well worth being iTunes independent.
You sold me on the DSP/EQ features in Rockbox.
I've had my mother's old iPod for years now, never used it, finally started and was loving it till the hard drive gave out. Didn't back up my music but i made sure to redownload everything again onto some usb drives and i have a modded iPod coming back to me in a few days, i can't wait to get back on it
"love" is in the title. That's how you know it isn't an Andrew video
Pffffhahahaha
Love my iPod, used it all the time (with my IEM,s)
Am I seriously about to dig out my old iPod classic from “that bin” and do this right now?
lol me too… same thoughts 😂
definitely worth it, give it a shot!
Did u? >.>
lol same
How did you get this iPod modded?
Oh man, iPods we're like a status symbol when I was in high school (back around 2004-2008). I had an iPod nano 2nd gen. After digging it out after so many years, I found the screen to be completely broken. However, my wife's iPod nano 4th gen still works like a charm and is almost in brand new condition, so I'm starting to use that. I hope this thing lasts me a life time lol.
Is there a stock style theme or a way to connect rockbox to your standard library? I want the oem experience without having to use itunes
I used to own a couple of apple DAPs - the 2nd gen, Nano and Classic, then there was a Creative Zen. Really convenient to have your music collection stored and ready to go. Since Fii0 started releasing their players I just fell in love with portable audio all over again.
I have fond memories of my nano 2. It eventually died in a washing machine.
Love the hoodie!
The only thing that's stopping me from using an iPod again is getting my Spotify library to an iPod
spotify down website lets you copy your playlist link and download an mp3 of all the songs
spotifydownloader - thank me later
trust me my guy, with a little time, you'll get all of your library to your iPod. Im not about to give out sauces but uk, if u want some, drop ur @
I thought that too but decided to go slowly building my iPod again (lost all my library when my old HD apparently died). Just on my car rides the sound is SO MUCH BETTER, even using Spotify on high quality, is not the same… so well worth the trouble
@@MA-xd9zl IFKR! On the stereo its king!! But just rmbr to slowly import ur files tho. Apparently and this happened to me as well if u import a bunch of songs all at once the songs can get corrupt like fake titles, bad album art. Etc
Love my iPod and 64Audio u12t combo.
Don't have one but ever since spotting the mods you can do to them, can't seem to forget them :)
love the see-through cases too!
Do you think the qustyle m15 adds anything to iems like the ie600 over the ipod or other dongles ?
I love my Questyle m15, what is the new dac called that questsyle is making?
I love it, back in the day, I owned a redwine modded iPod which the battery died, I would try this out.
Did you preorder a Tangara? I think it's a pretty cool project as it's all open. I've got a couple classics as well. One with microsd. Transfer could be quicker and I wish they had bluetooth transmission.
I wish you could provide more info on the mods. I’m trying to revive my old piece for 2 months now and I’m still completing the parts list so it’s a one time operation. What adapter/storage combo did you use? Do you have original battery or an upgraded capacity one?
Two of my iPods are newer iPod Touch models. There is a photo adapter (dongle) that lets you connect to a USB cable and bypass the headphone jack. I connect the USB to an external dac and then to a headphone amp. It sounds great using high-end headphones. I'm not sure if the internal dac is bypassed (I think it is).
what are those pads on your 7506? they look nice
Love this video! I've a 5.5Gen ipod Classic with the memory upgrade to take 4 micro sd cards. Sounds great with IEMs. Are there any other mods apart from battery? Think there were other upgrades which ended up with diodes hanging out of the iPod which I'm not interested in. Will have to research....
these diodes do bot have to hang out of the 5.5 😂
@@buckethead420 Yeah I see that now, last time I looked at this was many years ago, I think one of the earliest mods did have that. Doesn’t look like there’s any other options to upgrade the sound been developed in the intervening years though….
I KNOW it's NOT small, but... For a while I used an LG phone (I bought 2nd hand cheaply) that has the Quad DAC. I then installed 'PowerAmp' - my favourite music player (it IS a powerful app for listening to music with), and then loaded all my music (100Gb) onto it, and it was a great setup (WAY better sounding than my Motorola phone!!) 😏👌
😎🇬🇧
My iriver H120 was flash with rockbox , man the memory , it's cool to see that because the hardware on the apple is pretty good , the OS was the biggest no go.
I used Rockbox on my iriver H10. Man those where the days !
Interesting review. I have one with a more robust battery, but the unit itself was now way too light for me. Felt like a feather. So the tech guy added lead to give it a more satisfying weight.
Who’s your tech guy? I’ve broken the battery connector off the board and would love to get it repaired.
I still use two ipod classics with wadia170 transport..only changes the batteries works great, very convenient
I have an ipod 5.5 video. The H/P out D/A converter isn't very good, and the built in EQ presets were terrible except for "Latin" & "Rock" (which were both close to what I like). Any modern music, mastered loud, would digitally clip with the EQ presets. I had to make copy of all my audio files, and gain them down 4-6db, so I could use the EQ presets. However, I loved the Sony MP3 Walkman's that came out in the late 2000's. I then got a Fiio X3 which was nice, but pain to use, and then finally just started using my smartphones.
Love so much to watch DMS's videos
The way this guy talk about audio nerd stuff with so much passion is awesome
I have collected a 4th gen mono and photo, a 5th gen, a 3rd gen nano, and I already had a 4th gen nano. I have spent a decent chunk of change trying to get good audio out of my phone over the years. I find the BTR3 is pretty good for me, but the iPod classic 4 and 5 especially sound better still.
Nice hoodie and vid!
I stil use my gen 5 imo its the best sounding ipod I run rockbox and i changed the chrome back for a gold one I love it no internet connection needed
I got a 7th gen and modded it to hold 2TB and a 3000mAh battery, as well as swapping out body and face colors. I still use stock iPod OS, and it works great for me. I'm not an audiophile, but I absolutely hate having to charge everything these days so I insist on having wired earbuds and headphones and there are too many ads with streaming.
everything everything thumbnail LETS GOOOOOO
lets go indeed
Hell yeah
I have an iTouch 7th Gen. I have a lot of my own customized music on there that you can't find on streaming sites, so it works very well for me.
Where do you get your music, do you use FLAC or waves
Can you let me know the model of the headphones you were using with your ipod. I recently upgraded a few of my old ipods. So im looking to match them up with good quality headphones / ear pods
Sennheiser IE 600. I have the 100's and love them.
I have rockbox on mine... haven't switched out the hardware or anything, but it works well. I just wish Apple would bring back the Classic in a 1TB variant with no bluetooth nonsense. And I wish it can support 24/48 and higher as well. I have some really hi-res files that I've been purchasing from HDTracks and stuff, and call me crazy, but I do hear a slight difference from CDQ.
I ❤ my ipod classic 5.5 gen too
I've been needing to fix my ipod classic or maybe try to get it upgraded.
I have an ipod classic 7th gen, 1 of the 2 that my best buy store had left in stock. Last year it randomly stopped working, I think the hard drive is broken. It will power on but just wont work, tried resetting and restoring but, no luck.
Even though it's easy to stream on my phone, I really like having a separate device just for music. Specially when traveling, I don't worry about using up all my phone's battery. It's also nice to disconnect for a while yet, still continue to listen to music.
I think I've got the same problem as you. My iPod is stuck on the resetting loop where you can't get it out of it.
Another good option for a cheap dap is a old LG G8. Runs Android 11. Has a quad DAC . 3.5mm jack. Takes micro sd cards. 1440p screeen. Flagship at the time Snapdragon 855 processor.
Thanks for the info. Ill see what i can do with my classic. I also noticed you have an AGM glory pro. I had one too. The 5G wasnt working, i sent it in on warranty but it couldn't be repaired so they send me my $ back. Thanks again for audio info.
What back is that you have on your ipod? looks aftermarket. I like it.
Are you guys going to review the Bose QuiteComfort Ultra headphones?
Cool you mentioned it briefly, but what IS the best sounding IPOD ?
I never owned any of the iPod classics growing up and I love the one I put together. It’s a 5th Gen with custom front and back plates, 512GB storage.
The only prebuilt and Modded iPod I would be a Bluetooth 7th Gen with USB-C, and 1 or 2TB of storage.
I have a 1.5 TB Rockboxed iPod and I love it. Very good player. I’ll never ever use all that memory either.
I think phone manufacturers should include the 3.5mm jack in their phone designs
4.4mm balanced is way better than 3.5mm but is too large to ever justify using on a phone. It's better to move on from 3.5mm altogether and to use something like the M15/CMA18P to sidestep the issue
@@MrJester831what about 2.5mm balanced?
@@buckethead420 it would be too easy to snap while the phone is in your pocket. The same problem also exists for the 3.5mm and it's also unbalanced. 4.4mm is the best option as it's considerably stronger and balanced without being outrageously large like 6.5mm. Back when phones commonly had 3.5mm jacks it was a constant issue with jacks getting damaged accidentally
It’s not an iPod, but I use my Sony WM1Z all the time. It works great with my ADX -5000 headphones and my 64Audio N8 custom IEMs as well. I love having an all in one device that works anywhere
I love my A306!
Still rock my WM1A 😎👍
Sonys are SO MUCH better!
Peace you too my friend !
If you've done a battery mod I think rockbox lets you set the amount of mah it has, might help with the estimation
Modfing 3 at momrnt one for my mother one for my dad in his camper van and one for my psrtner to use in car .
I have a 7th and 5.5 at home the 300+ docks are now stupidly cheap to buy now so great sound for much lower cost too
pretty off-topic question but does anyone know what microphone he's using? I was looking for a new one and I really love the tone and vibe of the one used here :))
Still have a ipod classic😍👏🇧🇻
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I still use my Zune sometimes...ANDROID 4 LIFE 😂 !
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What's the difference between something like the Questyle M15 and the Fiio BTR5? I'm just curious bc coming from someone who owns a BTR5 it just seems more expensive for something with less features (that being Bluetooth) which if it's something portable that should be mandatory. I use both the USB input on my computer and the Bluetooth in my car.
sick hoodie!
I was just listening to my iPod while walking through the neighborhood, sixth gen too. Very interested in this Rockbox OS, can't stand iTunes syncing. Hope hope to see a video about getting this modification.
what keyboard is that
I just have a question where can I get the music it’s not like before like the old ways now is no places to download music do you know some website ? Thanks
Question please......if I load alac music files to i tunes and attach my ipod classic. Will I get hi res sound by simply listening with my iems? ...newbie question 😊
have you tried the new walkmans?
Where did you buy the new housing? And the other parts you used to mod it?
@dms how would you run the new m15 if its usb c to the old ipod.
I know a lot of people are getting into iPod. I myself, along with a few others, are Zune users. Zune isn't actually half bad. I wish there were hardware mods like there are for the iPod, but I'm still glad to be listening to music on my Zune.
where did you get the hi res offline song?
I noticed on my iPod, classic, if I turn the volume down to like 15% I can still hear it. If I did at all my phone, I couldn’t hear anything.
Some people say the Sony Walkman is pretty good.
Would like to see you guys try it.
I know I might be crazy but I was thinking about using a Dap more often but found my self looking into streaming services more when new music comes out. I wish I could use my iPod more but I tend to use my phone more and more as I find it harder to just get music on the Dap....
Great for places where no phone signal etc for streaming! Still have my classic 180gb rammed full of goodies 😊
Lover the iPod! Would really be super happy to be able to have one where you can have all of your CDs loaded on but non-compressed and listen in the best possible way. I still have many of my iPods in various drawers around the house. Apple just doesnt' support them so they end up in the drawer unfortunately. I have thousands of CDs and prefer listening to my own music - not a stream service guy
Yes DAP i had iPod long ago with 128gb hard drive
The first gen Shuffle is still really good. Only problem is that the storage goes up to a measly 1GB.