Part 2 Ford Front Drum Brake Diagnosis and Repair Episode 170 Autorestomod
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2014
- Ford drum brakes when they work they are awesome, when they don't everybody bad mouths them no end. We show you some tips and parts from NPD to get your Ford Brakes up to spec and working fine.
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Tools:
Craftsman:
Craftsman Brake Spring Pliers 945494
Brake Adjustment Tool 45496
Brake Spring Washer Tool 47767
Parts:
National Parts Depot:
Mustang Wheel Cylinder Front Brake LH 2062-1
Mustang Wheel Cylinder Front Brake RH 2061-1
Mustang Hose Front Drum Brake 13 ¾ 2078-3A (2)
Mustang Shoe Set Drum Brake Front 2001-4
Mustang Combi-Kit Brake Hardware 2A094-17
Mustang Brake Shoe Adjusting Lever Kit LH 2A177-1
Mustang Brake Shoe Adjusting Lever Kit RH 2A176-1
Mustang Drum Front 10 X 2 ¼ 1102-2 (2)
Mustang Speed Bleeders, 3/8 Inch-24 X 1 Inch 932-59
Mustang Speed Bleeders, 1/4 Inch-28 X .94 Inch 932-54
Mustang Clip Kit Brake Hose Zinc Plated 2078-1K
Mustang Cover Brake Adjusting Hole Correct Original 2092-1 (2)
Mustang Link Brake Cylinder to shoe 2042-1A (4)
Mustang Brake Line Set Front Drum Stainless 2265-2S - Jak na to + styl
Missing the butterfly washer at the top. Should have been installed before the adjuster cable. Should have turned the drum to match the hub center. You can manually adjust the brakes but leave them just a bit loose. If the car pulls then adjust abit more to balance the pull. Car should seat the shoes evenly from there. Once they seated it may need another final adjustment. Great video for the basic tho. You guys are awsome!
This is a great show. Thanks for the info!
great video this really helped me with my 65 falcon thank you guys
Glad it helped!
Well done video! 👍
I was looking forward to the #2 video. Excellent.
Thanks!
Convertible top installation after a bang up brake job? I salute you gentlemen.
We'd salute back Sixty...but we're tired. LOL it was a busy few weeks, but we got it all done.
Great vid guys, coincidentally I'm doing my rear brakes as you post this vid; learned a lot. If possible id love to see a video on restoring a rear differential, or at least just the pinion seal and or axel seals, thanks again.
Good idea, we have a nine inch rear axle we are planning to use on our '64 Falcon, we can certainly cover that. The 9 inch seal is covered in the Ford nine inch build we did last year. Episode 30 Part 1 Ford 9inch build using Detroit Truetrac Autorestomod That is the first one.
Guys...I really really love your videos. You explain things really well and experience is evident. I WAS going to raz you about not showing the back brakes (aka you need to have 3 hands...lol) but looked over to the right...you have a video ! I am anxious to see what you did on the rear brake hose. I did all of my parts EXCEPT That because of that oddball one to two hardline contraption...was not feeling brave on the junction box ...but maybe...:-) ANYWAY...keep plugging..your videos are the best
Thanks for the kind words! We try and "do it like you would" at home with tools. We are looking into a lift, but only because I ain't getting any younger...LOL
Outstanding video, learned a lot. Going to use a special tool for my F100 front drums - a checkbook. The rear drums are a bit less hassle, not needing any hubs pressed, no? Think might tackle those OK. Good tip about the backing plates, will keep in mind. Thanks again.
OK, we laughed out loud at the check book comment. Sometimes that can happen!
Great video.
Good luck at school Cam. :-)
Well I had to check out the channel after I spot it in a certain comment section and damn, this is better than I thought! Now, I'm not that into cars, but I know my friends are gonna looove this. (but I'll sub and watch anyway)
Thanks Muffin!
So I got a 63 ford fairlane 260 500. Clean car. My left front spring broke that goes on the adjuster. I'm having a hard time finding a good kit. The kit I did get is part number h7045. The car does have the original shoes on it if there was changes I don't know. Just wandering if you came across this problem. Thanks
I noticed you switched out the hardware from what it had originally. Is that what needs to be done? I have a 61 Mercury Comet and I'm having trouble finding the hardware kit. I have a picture i can show because it looks like i might have to update my hardware but I'm not sure. Hopefully this made sense and you can help. Greatly appreciate it.
My 67 has that bar on the front, that you said was for the rear brakes right under the wheel cylinder. Should I take it off? And I had a really stiff brake pedal. The pedal hardly moves, and the car does stop, but takes a very long distance to stop. Suggestions where to start trouble shooting???
Putting the spindle on the drum 1st is the preferred way? I have been leaving the spindle on the car and sliding the drum over it. '67 Fairlane with 10" front drums.
At least I learned from your video that my yellow and green springs are reversed!
The way we are showing is just the way Jeff has always done his.
You didn't talk at all about how if you want to replace the drums on the front, you have to press the old drums off the hubs because no one sells the drum and hub assembly anymore. It is a total pain to do and I thought that once I got the old drums off the hubs that the new ones would slide on and off like the back but they do not. So if your going to change the front drums on your car it is best to source a machine shop or a shop that can press that for you ahead of time otherwise your going to be stuck on the hoist or in your driveway until you can get that part figured out. Can't wait to upgrade to disc brakes.
Good point!
Just did new cylinder and shoes on my 64 ford custom and now the front won't spin forward. Will spin backwards a bit. Adjusters all the way in. Nee shoes did have slight variations in pad placement. Any ideas?
My 67 mustang has one other spring which goes between the two shoes under the wheel cylinder, but good video!
Always consult your application prior to starting work. Shop manuals are your friends.
All 65-70 Mustangs with front drum brakes have that spring underneath the wheel cylinder. Where did the one go on this car? It isn't reproduced.
I had no idea how to use brake spring pliers until I watched your video. You can imagine being clueless and trying to mount brake springs, right. You can put your freakin' eye out! (my mother used to say that a lot.) So hey, thanks. Well shot. You can see everything, which is helpful. One thing--some new drums I've received have clearance in the stud holes, so they won't need pressing on. You can just slip them right over the studs. Is that safe? Correct part. Checked twice. NAPA supplier.
splortz yea i just changed mine today mostly by hand outside of w of the springs i used a needle nose for. The locking pins killed my fingers lol i didnt wanna get the tool set for it.
is that wheel cylinder welded to the plate?
Wish you guys would of shown the steps on how to bleed this car with all new brakeparts installed. Im in the middle of this project and Im not sure what to do it correctly.
Go to the furthest wheel from the master cylinder and bleed that, then to the wheel across from it. Move to the furthest front wheel from the master and bleed that then the closest to the master cylinder.
I’m getting ready to do the brakes on my 67 mustang. I’ve pulled the hubs and looked. There are no self adjusters on it. Do some just not have self adjusters or did someone do it wrong along the line
Send me some photos at jford@autorestomod.com and I'll help you sus it out.
Any Video on Rear drum brakes?
czcams.com/video/szRE95pmAZ8/video.html
Thanks for this well informed video on how to do drums brake. I have a question every time I hit the brakes on my 69 mustang the driver rear drum shoe pops out of place what do u think might cause it. I have a video of it on my page if u have time to check it out.
Sorry, we have not been getting all of our request! We just found yours. It looks like you are missing the spring that goes from the adjuster to the shoe. Watch the episode and the spring we apply with the locking pliers is the one you are missing. This has allowed the adjuster wheel to slip to the bottom of the shoe, out of the slot where it is supposed to sit.
hey i have a problem with my 1966 mustang i bought new wheels for it, styled steel wheels, and now i think the wheel studs are to short. When i put the wheel on i only have 0,4 inch left on the stud. is that enough for the wheel nuts or do i have to buy new wheel studs?
If your old wheels fit, the new styled steel wheels should fit too. You might want to check for interference between the disc brakes (if so equipped) and the wheel. Youcan contact Jeff directly at: jford@autorestomod.com
my 65 fairlane also has another spring that goes across to both shoes under the wheel cylinder, what's the deal?
Those are the 10 inch drums. We were doing the 9 inch drums. The spring is therre to aid in return of the drum to its rest position.
4:55 it doesn't magically go you have to push it bro before you twist
Im having a problem with my new wheel cylinders lining up on my 66 f100 what,should i do to fix that
Pretty sure they are side specific. Check that first.
I ended up having to grind them down
I test drove a 67 cougar the other day, being a first time buyer/driver of a old muscle car i didnt know what to expect for the braking. The seller told me he worked on the brakes him self, he had discs on the front and drums on the backs. But i felt as if the car was not stopping well at all and is a big problem. Is there a fix to this problem or is this common with 67 cougars?
If the car is not boosted, you may be dealing with that. Most every modern car is now power assisted. A lot of folks will add the discs but not the booster and so it may feel hard on braking.
thank you for the info, greatly appreciated.
Older car braking was not as good as cars now days. I suggest you drive a few older cars to familiarize yourself with old school braking and steering.
hi why does my 65 front drum mustang pull left when i brake
+Paul Kassabian Usually it is a problem with the adjustment of the front brakes. You might try the backing up routine. But we'd look at the internals first to make sure that the stuff inside the drum is all where it needs to be.
You forgot to explain that there is a left and a right adjuster....
bummer...but hey, I am getting better at assembly/disassembly/reassembly
Sorry about that.
So what would this cost me ?? frank in So. Oregon
+Frank Clark Would entirely depend on where you bought the parts and how much needed replacing.
I know that--I am asking how much it cost for the parts you showed on the table--I figured they were from NPD?
Yeah, the parts were from NPD. We'd have to go back and figure than been a while.
cool video but those drum brakes are not really all that. My '62 peugeot actually has twin leading shoe drum brakes which are better then this setup with one leading and 1 trailing shoe.
Interesting. We'd like to see that! send a pic to: jford@autorestomod.com. This system is what it was. Ford was actually late to the hydraulic game even; didn't adopt that until, we believe, 1955.
@@AutoRestoMod Hi, I have a 1953 ford Delevery van. It has hydraulic brakes. What im going to do is put on self adjusters which it don't have. I will let you no how it comes out. Love your videos.