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  • čas přidán 5. 03. 2019
  • Hands down the BEST D'vorah player I've ever played!!!!
    #ninjakilla 212

Komentáře • 184

  • @Wazminator
    @Wazminator Před 5 lety +391

    GGs mate, one of the funnest sets I have ever played!
    Let's run that back soon :)

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +19

      That's what happens when you actually get in the lab and learn your character. GGs my friend you got an amazing D'Vorah

    • @Wazminator
      @Wazminator Před 5 lety +14

      Toxic Melody thanks so much man I appreciate that so much

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +7

      @@Wazminator
      You should for sure enter into Destroyer's qualifying tournament today, for the $2000 prize pool on the 27th if your circumstances allow it. I'll be rooting for you, you showed us a different lvl D'Vorah.

    • @SWT-hb9em
      @SWT-hb9em Před 5 lety +3

      Nazty Devorah, Let's catch a set ?? Str8_j4Cck3t

    • @Wazminator
      @Wazminator Před 5 lety +11

      @@SWT-hb9em Add me on PSN dude I'll definitely play you sometime!

  • @Kachizou
    @Kachizou Před rokem +24

    waz went from being one of the best if not the best D'vorah in the unknown scene to now being on of the most popular content creators for mk W tbh

    • @xMoreShots
      @xMoreShots Před rokem

      If thats not dedication to grinding idk what is. Big W for waz and ninja

  • @georgennajiofor3826
    @georgennajiofor3826 Před rokem +5

    It's 2023 and this is the first player,after maybe Bo Rai Cho, that I've seen make Ninjakilla sweat in MkX

  • @lutfysalim5998
    @lutfysalim5998 Před 5 lety +50

    Best damn Devorah i have ever seen. He brought the fight to Ninjakilla for sure.

  • @crazyhawyn3610
    @crazyhawyn3610 Před 5 lety +264

    When you realize honeybee isn’t the best devorah 🐑

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +42

      This man really got in the lab and learned the ins and outs of his character, instead of crying everything is broken. He proved D'Vorah can get the same type of damage off of 1 meter.

    • @Section8dc
      @Section8dc Před 5 lety +13

      @@toxicmelody6228 We were just commenting about this guy. I just saw this video. This guy is amazing, he knows D'vorah and the liu kang match up like a true master. Insane shit man, nothing but respect for these animals.

    • @natelozito8729
      @natelozito8729 Před 5 lety +32

      ​@@toxicmelody6228 see its not the same "type of damage" at all tho, with liu when you guess wrong 30% of the combo that you eat is unbreakable damage, not to mention the fact that his f44 rc b21 fbf4 ex builds the bar it costs and is safe, devorah has a terrible wake up, 1 hit of armor that literally gets shredded by liu just pressing b1 and isn't safe on block, whereas liu's has multiple hits of armor and is safe, i do think devorah is a very, very strong character. but is frankly just beat out by liu in almost every way, her d2 is better, she has plus rc's which is cool but liu's in my opion are better because the ghost cancel exists, and she has some really nice forward advancing mids which liu lacks but that's about all she has going for her, i also feel like its worth mentioning i know how to play both of the characters (not to this level just to be clear), oh and i forgot to mention that liu can just kill you in the corner if he has bar cause after the fbf4 ex he can do 4 instant airs plus 2 ex instant airs into a grab, completely unbreakable. Honeybee isn't "crying" he's right, most of liu's pressure and combos i severely doubt were intended to work in the way they are. something else id like to say is that devorah's mixups are TERRIBLE against liu, she gets full combo punished for her f34 although i give it to you that's its a 1 or 2 frame punish so its not exactly easy, and her b1 well i mean unless you are exactly on top of the opponent in my experience its not likely to connect and will also get you full combo punished, and i forgot to add that liu's b12 rc isn't actually real but its hard to realize and react to that mid game.
      keep in mind that this is all data and objective, i love honeybee, i love ninja and I've never heard of waz till now but imma check his youtube out for some devorah tips.
      edit: sorry for the bible

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +2

      @@natelozito8729
      But every character got a if you guess wrong move, if you guess wrong everybody can do a Overhead, if you guess wrong everyone can be caught pushing buttons. Sure some characters have good tools, however we're acting as if D'Vorah had no type of tools in her favor such as: reach, smaller hit box, the best down 2 and etc. I understand your point but we can't act as if everything Ninjakilla did was the easiest thing in the world and everybody that uses Lui Kang can do the same exact things. This is what makes these guys masters, going in the lab and figuring out what their character can and can't do. No one forced Waz to use D'Vorah and no one force Ninjakilla to use Lui, of course it's not the same type of damage because they're two different characters. However using their characters effectively they found out how to get the most consistent damage with their respective characters=same damage.

    • @natelozito8729
      @natelozito8729 Před 5 lety +4

      Toxic Melody but is every characters guess wrong move safe and lead to pressure? I didn’t mention the execution for liu and Devorahs combos and that was my mistake, yes both of them are quite execution heavy, the point I’m making is while devorah especially swarm queen is a very strong character on account of the aforementioned qualities and the small hit box and d2 liu just has many more options in terms of pressure and hit staggers, hit confirms, damage, and zoning and the ghost cancel, I think liu just has more tools at his disposal, not an easy feat against devorah in particular, as she has quite a bit against most characters, also the different characters different type of damage isn’t the point I was making with that statement, I was referring to breakable/unbreakable damage, in which case quite a few characters have those combos, Cassie, kitana, liu, tremor, reptile. Just off the top of my head.
      Also liu’s f44 is a very easy hit confirm, at least for me, which means it’s definitely easy for ninja, which devorah does not have with her low, while liu lacks an overhead starter as you saw in the honeybee game the “don’t block overhead” doesn’t really work because of his b2 which I think at one point ninja did 5 in a row of.
      For the “not everyone can do what he does” I’m perfectly aware of this in fact I’d go as far as saying he is one of if not the best mkx player, I know quite a lot of people chalk up him beating the shit out of everyone to the “it’s a broken character he’s not good” and that’s simply not true, he plays all of his fundamentals impressively but from experience (took me 7 hours to land my first 50 w liu, I can barely do lius 50% to this day, I struggle with the instant airs quite a bit but when your at the top level, you expect to see every person playing their character well and if we imagine that everyone is playing their character to their full potential then I believe liu is most definitely S+ tier and would win most of the time
      The last line (not going to copy and paste)it is plainly not true I think what your thinking of is optimal vs non-optimal, in which case I very much agree. But that’s not what we are talking about, a single bar for half your health should not exist on a character like liu who has so many meter building tools. It might be acceptable if the meter system was different but like I said, liu builds meter off his pressure, and quite a lot of it, 1 bar is nothing to him.
      it’s worth mentioning that devorah CANNOT get the same damage off her mixs b1 exdf1 does not connect, f3 exdf1 does not connect (her low and overhead respectively) and connecting the exdf1 is exactly how you reach the same numbers ie her 45 off f11 exdf1 b jip f44 f44 f44 rc 21u3 dL1 relies on whiff punishing
      One thing I realize that not a lot of people talk about is that often times you end up playing the player instead of the game, conditioning mixing, etc. which ninjakilla does a very good job at doing as well as honeybee
      Last thing I promise, and again I forgot to say this, I don’t think honeybee preformed at his best in that ft13, and wazminator put up a much much better fight, maybe he wasn’t focused or maybe he just wanted to go watch the kombat kast idk but I have seen him preform to a higher standard than what I saw in that ft13
      Sorry for the Bible pt2

  • @toxicmelody6228
    @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +38

    Yeah most definitely the best D'Vorah, he was awesome. GGs to you both crazy set

  • @HCWzVenom
    @HCWzVenom Před 3 lety +10

    I love this set and still enjoy watching Ninjakilla all the time. Idk why but I die laughing when he says “I’m feeling the flow, the dragon just kicked in”😂😂 2:41

  • @vanlav7688
    @vanlav7688 Před 5 lety +39

    Wazminator you need to go to the competition and occupy the top places with such skill !!!!

    • @Wazminator
      @Wazminator Před 5 lety +22

      I will be travelling for MK11 for sure, I'll be at Combo Breaker man.

    • @vanlav7688
      @vanlav7688 Před 5 lety +6

      You're very good at controlling the game. It feels potential. You would definitely take about 3 of his places in the ongoing tournaments

  • @Vilizio
    @Vilizio Před 5 lety +72

    This dude is a beast. No hate towards HB but this guy’s Devorah stood a way better chance. GG’s to both

  • @pierslecompte2951
    @pierslecompte2951 Před 5 lety +16

    Much love to Waz for putting Australia on the map for Mortal Kombat

  • @Freepour_3
    @Freepour_3 Před 5 lety +13

    Shout out to Waz, making the Australia scene not irrelevant

  • @Gauzzly
    @Gauzzly Před 5 lety +39

    He actually got 10 games on your liu good shit to waz I’ve never seen him before but damn he’s strong

    • @Wazminator
      @Wazminator Před 5 lety +9

      Gaussly ❤

    • @Gauzzly
      @Gauzzly Před 5 lety +5

      Waz keep it up mate never knew you existed I’m quite unknown too lol I’m on Xbox so I don’t really get to much publicity but aye man keep it up your sick

    • @traciegreen4920
      @traciegreen4920 Před 2 lety

      The hate is real🥱

    • @SantiagoOXfir
      @SantiagoOXfir Před 2 lety +1

      @@Wazminator it’s funny Hbee deleted the video of you mopping him off his Chanel lol

  • @daniel29646
    @daniel29646 Před 3 lety +4

    the dragon said "ninjaaaaaaaaa"

  • @majorpum95x26
    @majorpum95x26 Před 5 lety +5

    After that 1st round Ninja must have been like : oh hell no

  • @destroyersleftnut58
    @destroyersleftnut58 Před 5 lety +9

    Waz hands down best Dvorah imo!! One of the best matches I've ever seen! And he definitely gave Ninja a run for his money!! Ggs

  • @BLACKNATION0RAGE
    @BLACKNATION0RAGE Před 5 lety +7

    as high level as it gets, even though Ninja was messin around near the end :P GGS was good to watch.

  • @lolll33
    @lolll33 Před rokem +1

    its insane ninja still responds to these days comments never ever saw a humble guy as much as him

  • @yeeteryeeter3964
    @yeeteryeeter3964 Před 5 lety +6

    Best Dvorah in mk x vs best Liu Kang just amazing

  • @crfractures3395
    @crfractures3395 Před 5 lety +5

    Two gods in their prime

  • @nuklezdws
    @nuklezdws Před 5 lety +4

    Shot ow waz you the man bro djinneataa from nz

  • @darrenrobbert5761
    @darrenrobbert5761 Před 5 lety +3

    This is the best D’vorah game play ever seen .

  • @beckforsgren9346
    @beckforsgren9346 Před 4 lety +10

    I think Wazminator has the potential to be one of the best FGC players, if he is able to take games off of NinjaKilla in MKX that says something. In my opinion NinjaKilla is the best MK player there is, I do think he is better than SonicFox in MKX and MK11, but I mean Waz was able to take more games off of NinjaKilla than Sonic was able to, even after Sonic practiced and played MKX again for their rematch

    • @Wollvzz
      @Wollvzz Před 4 lety +6

      @Gun fighter have you seen their matches in mk11? They go toe to toe, its dumb ash for you to say ninja ain't on sonics lvl

    • @Mr.Rabot6688
      @Mr.Rabot6688 Před 3 lety

      Ninja is currently better than sonic

    • @charredftw5588
      @charredftw5588 Před 3 lety

      @@Mr.Rabot6688 ninja ain't better than sonic. Online doesnt mean shit in mkx or mk11 sonic is the king of offline

    • @prxhcision1597
      @prxhcision1597 Před 2 lety

      @@Wollvzz on par and better are two completely different things.

  • @hyfrovoxojuice
    @hyfrovoxojuice Před 5 lety +5

    Waz is very good you can tell he spent more time in mk than bee who goes back and forth between mk and injustice

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety

      Even when HB was playing MK at its peek he wasn't playing D'Vorah like this

    • @hyfrovoxojuice
      @hyfrovoxojuice Před 5 lety

      Toxic Melody bee layed out the meta for how you play dvorah but when he stopped the playstyle kept changing with people who kept going

    • @hyfrovoxojuice
      @hyfrovoxojuice Před 5 lety

      Toxic Melody bee layed out the meta for how you play dvorah but when he stopped the playstyle kept changing with people who kept going

    • @JBSCORNERL8
      @JBSCORNERL8 Před 5 lety

      Mkx came out in 2015. This game is old as dirt. Stop praising these dudes that mastered a game thst no one plays competitively anymore. I wanna see these same dudes crack heads on the offline scene.

  • @a-bovea-ve-rage
    @a-bovea-ve-rage Před 5 lety +5

    This Waz cat is the first dude I've seen give NK a headache sonicfox didn't even accomplish that,big respect..

  • @Umbra00001
    @Umbra00001 Před 5 lety

    “ the dragon just kicked in “ “ oh yeah oh yeah “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fucking lawl

  • @user-gn8fq5pn7u
    @user-gn8fq5pn7u Před rokem +1

    ❤ best d'vorah ever🎉

  • @SantiagoOXfir
    @SantiagoOXfir Před 3 lety +2

    Honeybee really deleted the video of him losing to Waz I can’t find it lol

  • @rodrik2184
    @rodrik2184 Před 5 lety +1

    The shade towards Honeybee😂

  • @traditionalsunni629
    @traditionalsunni629 Před 4 lety +2

    47:13 now i am gonna do something thats called a PRO GAMER MOVE BEATCH

  • @edwinguillaume7260
    @edwinguillaume7260 Před 5 lety

    This the first player i ever seen go back to back against Ninjakilla and they both outstanding

  • @romsmcstone4420
    @romsmcstone4420 Před 5 lety +1

    Just wanna say that ur gonna rock in mk11! Your character's so insane in that game! Excellent liu kang player

  • @ruimteschipYT
    @ruimteschipYT Před 5 lety +6

    Ninjakilla is the best Lui kang player in the world :) greets from netherland

  • @Section8dc
    @Section8dc Před 5 lety +2

    I love honeybee but this dude is a fucking animal, ninja had to play him again after the other day lol. Both of these men are Elder Gods of this game lol.

  • @mkmaudsley8381
    @mkmaudsley8381 Před 5 lety +1

    Wow Wazminator has one serious D'Vorah. I'm Sure i remember him from a tourney a while back against happypow! GG's guy's 👍🔥

  • @mikerickflame5175
    @mikerickflame5175 Před 2 lety

    This is the frist i have ever seen ninja break so many time

  • @jordanswiper3006
    @jordanswiper3006 Před 5 lety +4

    Bro ninja I hope u keep doing good in mk11 I love your videos u a GOD🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥🔥

  • @fazebonilla7931
    @fazebonilla7931 Před 5 lety +3

    You are my hero

  • @jaedenkhalid
    @jaedenkhalid Před 2 lety

    OMG Ninja vs. Waz why am I just now seeing this

  • @ieorzack
    @ieorzack Před 5 lety

    My nigga said "if honeybee plays like that i got a long way to go" lmao little did he know 😂

  • @JupiterSRC
    @JupiterSRC Před 5 lety +4

    best D'vorah

  • @traditionalsunni629
    @traditionalsunni629 Před 4 lety +1

    45:18 omg he got the whope fkin round this guy is just like ninjakilla

  • @hugoruda9049
    @hugoruda9049 Před 5 lety +1

    Those dvorah cancels are so dirty

  • @tigerbiterhater
    @tigerbiterhater Před 5 lety

    Cant wait to see you with Mk11 Kang

  • @xxsethxo
    @xxsethxo Před 5 lety +3

    Do you think this guy’s D’vorah is better than Honeybee’s? Because you uploaded this set right after the honeybee one. lol

    • @SantiagoOXfir
      @SantiagoOXfir Před 5 lety +3

      Yes it is lol did we watch the same video..?

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +1

      Waz was just on another level, it goes to show if you get in the lab and actual learn your character instead of copying everyone; you can be OP asf too.

  • @playboykyo
    @playboykyo Před 5 lety +1

    YOOO How u feeling about that story trailer tho😷😤😤😂

  • @SERENGETI-t2g
    @SERENGETI-t2g Před 4 lety +2

    This Devorah liiiiit

  • @JavierRodriguez-wh5mi
    @JavierRodriguez-wh5mi Před 5 lety +5

    Mierda. Jugas re bien

  • @ssg723
    @ssg723 Před 3 lety +3

    Midnight club best racing game🤬

  • @AshishKumar-es5xe
    @AshishKumar-es5xe Před 2 lety

    You set it NK. Peak of mkx.

  • @merzhoykin
    @merzhoykin Před 5 lety

    Another up keeper with ninja killa? How did I miss that? I have to say that these match ups are a step up from any that I've seen. Damaja seems to be the closest comparison.

  • @bryanalcantara1326
    @bryanalcantara1326 Před 5 lety

    This is a good set. Well don’t to both players. After watching this I wanna learn D’vorah now lol.

  • @TheMalikelliott
    @TheMalikelliott Před 5 lety +1

    Why does waz duck so fast
    Its almost like he's teleporting

  • @mosesgamingcenter3241
    @mosesgamingcenter3241 Před 3 lety +1

    Damn guys niceeee game ninjakilla but that devora was OD

  • @kolbe1177
    @kolbe1177 Před 5 lety +1

    Goodnight 😴

  • @VinylSkillz
    @VinylSkillz Před 5 lety

    Not bad at all. D'vorah is doin her thang!!

  • @duaterhtyes6250
    @duaterhtyes6250 Před 5 lety

    Ninjakilla you need to use that mic more, your commentary is funny af.

  • @skulllbosss3972
    @skulllbosss3972 Před 5 lety +1

    NINJA_KILLA YOUR D BEST KEEP PRACTICING MANNNNN YOUR MY BEST IN MKX REMEMBER........SKULLBOSS SAY DAT

  • @octaviorueda818
    @octaviorueda818 Před 3 lety

    Full mastery of an S tier character

  • @Frieza96
    @Frieza96 Před 5 lety +1

    Wished I could compete in those tournaments... I’m from Israel 2 far

  • @ELG_Keez
    @ELG_Keez Před 2 lety

    I didn’t know waz was this nice. The only other player I seen give ninja some type of fight back lol

  • @imashd2629
    @imashd2629 Před 4 lety

    I come back to this video some times and everytime I laugh because at @1:01:50 you did b12 4 fucking times in his face and had that man scared to even press a button. Lmfao I was crying.

  • @SonnyZia
    @SonnyZia Před 5 lety +1

    Wazminator vs. HoneyBee please

  • @wesleyspeed
    @wesleyspeed Před 5 lety +2

    Much better than honeybee

  • @charliekc5267
    @charliekc5267 Před 5 lety +3

    What was the final score? I can't watch it all im going to sleep

  • @vipset87
    @vipset87 Před 5 lety

    big ups to ninja for reppin liu kang at an age where hes not as popular anymore and no1 does. as long as he reps liu, ill keep supporting. big ups to waz for being nasty with dvorah, again a character that not everyone picks

  • @stone65037
    @stone65037 Před 4 lety

    Does wazinator use a gaming stick? It looks like it’s not a controller. Or mouse clicks for the dpad

    • @TheODLawson23
      @TheODLawson23 Před 4 lety

      Wazinator used a controller. Check his channel.

  • @kelevrata4887
    @kelevrata4887 Před 5 lety +3

    what about honeybee? 😬😬😬😬

  • @ukspeedy1048
    @ukspeedy1048 Před 5 lety

    Ninja your sick at mkx right now and your gameplay is gr8 m8 but why on earth do you do bicycle kicks on hit then do instant air fireball in their face. Its literally the only thing you do where im like wtf are you doing giving up all those plus frames.

  • @TheFemboyConnoisseur
    @TheFemboyConnoisseur Před 3 lety

    13:50 YEA THATS RIGHT GET IN THEY FUCKIN FACE! TALK YO SHIT!

  • @bryanalcantara1326
    @bryanalcantara1326 Před 5 lety

    I’m trying to practice her but her moves don’t come out when I’m pressing the inputs. She’s a little difficult to play. Any D’vorah players out there... if someone can teach me to play her it would be much appreciated. She’s hard to master lol.

  • @Takeda_
    @Takeda_ Před rokem

    7:08 wat happened there

  • @alexthompson1156
    @alexthompson1156 Před 4 lety +1

    the nastiest dvorah in mkx hands down

  • @utroranee3311
    @utroranee3311 Před 5 lety +1

    Look at mistakes when you playing with ninja. Please analyze it. He waits for your jump every time when you jump and does what he does.

  • @traditionalsunni629
    @traditionalsunni629 Před 4 lety

    Didnt know a dvorah like this existed. He is the best in mk x dvorah no doubt in the world.

  • @Ermac888
    @Ermac888 Před 5 lety

    U still gona play xl when 11 is out ?

  • @nexxgengaming
    @nexxgengaming Před rokem

    I hate it When NK DROPS A COMBO❤

  • @SaucyCheeseburgerwithRanch

    How do you make a 27 min ft13, but an HOUR and 11 mins for just 7 extra games.....

    • @toxicmelody6228
      @toxicmelody6228 Před 5 lety +5

      Because a back and forth game is always going to be slower than a one sided match up....that's just common sense

  • @IAmLif3ofdreads
    @IAmLif3ofdreads Před 5 lety

    Good video bro formerly known as lif3withplaystation

  • @traciegreen4920
    @traciegreen4920 Před 2 lety

    I know y'all ain't low-key hating on High level NK😊

  • @mkchannel6091
    @mkchannel6091 Před 3 lety

    GGs to U both

  • @trewillz7425
    @trewillz7425 Před 5 lety +2

    Anyone else notice the low fireball disappear? 6:05

  • @gabiturbinca9102
    @gabiturbinca9102 Před 5 lety

    With this players, it's all or nothing

  • @romsmcstone4420
    @romsmcstone4420 Před 5 lety

    Killa you Are The BEST!!!! OMG

  • @bachxl4804
    @bachxl4804 Před 5 lety

    You've call yoselsf Liu Kang not Ninjakilla

  • @TimezUp23
    @TimezUp23 Před 5 lety

    Ninjakilla or whoever, step to bustyknockerz. You will not shut me out.
    But question, how is it being the greatest at MKX?

  • @nnajioforonyedikachi1782
    @nnajioforonyedikachi1782 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wazminator molested Ninja to a Brutality.... this one sweet me 45:06

  • @Buck_brz
    @Buck_brz Před 5 lety

    Who was he talking to about Mileena?, does anyone knows?

  • @NiskiEvaristo
    @NiskiEvaristo Před rokem

    best dvora ever

  • @713shyne
    @713shyne Před 5 lety

    Ninjakilla run that set vs Shynedatruth
    Do it for the Culture lol

  • @blueberry_200
    @blueberry_200 Před rokem

    Devorah ❤❤❤👍

  • @XxTheBluePillxX
    @XxTheBluePillxX Před 5 lety

    Best d’vora I’ve e ever seen but still NK is gonna do NK things lol

  • @isackmesquita2571
    @isackmesquita2571 Před 3 lety

    10:36😱😱😎🐝🐛

  • @joshuapeppars6985
    @joshuapeppars6985 Před 5 lety

    Ninjakilla is a cheezer..
    Getting people in the corner and constantly grabbing them=CHEEZING

    • @TaybeenTrill248
      @TaybeenTrill248 Před 4 lety

      Joshua Peppars you clearly not seeing the combos and setups he doin

  • @mohammedmo9723
    @mohammedmo9723 Před 5 lety

    Wtf bro u r monster

  • @TheFemboyConnoisseur
    @TheFemboyConnoisseur Před 2 lety

    He did way better than sonicfox that’s for sure lmaoo

  • @Deoxys243
    @Deoxys243 Před 5 lety

    you gotta compete in mk11

  • @raymondocool694
    @raymondocool694 Před 5 lety +1

    My mans wazminator the best Dvorah free. Soz not Soz honeybee

  • @user-ds3km9yl4n
    @user-ds3km9yl4n Před 26 dny

    Wazminator is the best divora

  • @Mhm504
    @Mhm504 Před 5 lety

    Any1 who knows his twitter or twitch account?

  • @sevensin7112
    @sevensin7112 Před 5 lety

    Wow? Wazminator is no fucking joke! I thought Honneybee was best dvorah?