Wave Windsurfing: Expectations vs. Reality (As a beginner)
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2023
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Nils this was awesome! There is a massive hole in windsurfing content when it comes any intermediate skills - you can find beginner content & you can find superstar elite content - but almost nothing in between. We look forward to seeing more!
Thanks, that's my thinking as well, why only share the stuff I'm already pretty good at (Speedsurfing), maybe it's cool for people to see something I have just started and take them along for the journey, so glad you liked it :)
Exactly. People tend to look to the pros for improvement, but the pros have ridiculous skills, muscles and equipment and have long forgotten the basic errors.
Agreed! For an intermediate windsurfer it's often much more entertaining and/or interesting to watch other intermediates instead of the pros, who do everything (nearly) perfect. So keep the vids on wave-sessions coming!
Trying to learn ws online if you are already in footstraps, doing 30kts+, gybing and waterstarting in any conditions ... is a very lonely place! I also agree that it will be more value if you show your wave progression as imperfect as it maybe might be at first 🙂
Dude don't worry so much about everything. Just have fun improving your skills.. Conditions are what the are.. That's life enjoy it...
Good on you Nils! I enjoyed the video mate! It's tricky on small waves because they move slow so you need to sometimes either hang in the top section of the wave until it gets steep enough and then do a sharp bottom turn to the lip or if its cross-off hang in the top half of the wave and then bear off when you see a section to get max speed to hit the lip. The more speed you have the easier it is to turn so you have to always think how you can maximise speed in the waves. The other strategy you can do in small waves is to plane at max speed from behind the swell and time it when it hits the bank so you go over the wave straight into a bottom turn however this can be tricky with timing.
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it, even if it's leagues behind the stuff you upload in terms of wavering skills! Thanks for the tips, I hope we get some more waves the next two weeks before I leave again ;)
@@WindsurfingNils Sweet Nils look forward to it!
That’s interesting. So the challenging thing is losing speed so you don’t outrun the wave?
@@tripp8833 small waves are harder than medium size waves in windsurfing. Have a look here Tripp for a visual on some good technique! Notice how he hangs in the top part of the wave before turning. czcams.com/video/KlsyD2shjSE/video.html
Ehrliches Video, bin auf die Fortschritte gespannt. Gerne mehr davon. Kein Grund zum "roasten"...
Danke für das Lob!
Nils .. the life of wave surfing - always windy on the outside, and much less wind in the impact zone. That why wave sailors have a lot of sail seizes - chosing the rigth seize for impact zone, and managing the outside is a skill to learn.
I'm a beginner on waves myself, so these comments are from the couch:
- you have your weight too much towards aft of the board, nose goes up in the air, the speed is gone
- wave sailing is all about accelerating and decelerating in quick succesion. so put your mast and body forward to acceleratie into speedy turns
- about going too fast for the wave: make your trajectory more parallel to the wave, not perpendicular. That way you can cross the wae full speed, if needed/wanted.
Looking forward to your next vids !
thanks, looking forward to try it on my next wavesession, i have to let go of the slalom stance a bit I think to do better in waves, need more than 1-2 wavesessions a year however to really make some progress...
Great video Nils..... Fantastic to see the journey of a very skilled windsurfer exploring the wave aspect of the sport. We took up windsurfing late and only dream of waveriding... Great content..
Thank you Nils! Soo great to see a "beginners" video about this subject. Any other wave video only show the highest jumps and never what happens when you are in the water!
I agree with your viewers, very interesting, helpful and always entertaining seeing windsurfing.
Thanks for this. Lived in my van for two years in and around Tarifa like 25 years ago. Memory lane ❤
Nils, thanks for this reality video. It is motivaiting for me also as a waveriding beginner. 🤙
Bolonia, not good at all for jumps 😂, and complexe for surfing (it closes very quickly). But the atmosphere is incredible. Love this place
Nice to see. I thought a good slalom and speed racer like you would feel much more confident on waves. Being myself a below average wave guy, I thought it d be easier for someone really confident in race and jibe. Anyway it was fun to see. Thanks a lot. Rooting for your improvement.
Nice video 🤙, insight is far more important.... seeing and following your progression will be fun 🤙🤙🤙
thanks Kurt, hopefully there will be some progression!
It wont be long and you'll be totally hooked on wave sailing!! Try not to be over critical and over-analyze everything you're doing. You have a lot of windsurfing expereince, all you need to do is to get out there and spend time on the water, it will come....
With the jumping, try not to round up into the wind so much, although the condidtions weren't great for launching, I noticed every time you wnet for a jump you pulled the front hand in and round up into the wind, you want to stay off the wind more, keep the speed up, pull that back foot up under your butt.......
Wave riding, well, I am no expert trust me, but I love it and really enjoy it, maybe you could have got more off the wind and "down the line" sharp bottom turn and back up the face....on those little waves the ride will be short, but I think they are great for learning on because they are less intimidating. Dont be afraid to really slash that board on the bottom to come back up the top and slash the lip......its so much fun!! Another couple of sessions and you'll be slaying those waves!!
Loved the video. Hope to see more of this. In time you might even slow down on slalom and just chase waves 😁 There is a lot to learn in waves. It took me so long to find out the smaller things that make big improvements. I'm sure you'll get good quite quickly. Timing however it just time on the waves. Hope to share some sessions with you in Cape Town one day 😎
Inspring video, its great you are sharing the experience.
As Paul said, it sounds counter intuitive but it is easier to learn on big swell, because unlike small waves, you don't need to be at the critical section, you can stay at the shoulder safely and still have wave power, bigger area to move around and no problems if you make timing mistakes. Olso wave face is generally less choppy when its big.
Nils das sieht schon viel besser aus als letztes jahr, einfach weitermachen
Bolonia ist eher nicht so der jumpspot mhr für riding
Jumps in valdevaqueros oder canos
ja, canos ist viel geiler, war leider bisher diesen Monat noch nicht genügend wind für mein 4,7er... kommt hoffentlich noch!
Nice video! Looks good!
Thanks Nils for showing the all too common real life experience of poor conditions/ wind & wave combinations. Another one is where you sail in good wind but rough water for over an hour waiting for good waves then the tide height brings the best wave conditions but then the good wind drops to a major lull. Laugh and curse at the same time, so typical.
Hallo, Du hast das grundsätzliche Problem wenn "passive" Slalomwindsurfer auf Wavematerial umsteigen und diesen passiven Stil weiter behalten. Zuerst beim Rausfahren NICHT Unterhand greifen, die Gabel NICHT im weiten Griff halten, die Trapeztampen LÄNGER einstellen. Die vordere Hand KURZ VOR die Trapeztampen posltionieren und den grösseren Teil des Segelzugs mit dem getstreckten vorderen Arm halten, so beschleunigst Du schneller und kannst besser Pumpen um schnell genug im Weisswasserbereich zu beschleinigen für Sprünge mit kurzem Anlaufweg. Generell gilt beim Rausfahren: Pumpen, Pumpem, Pumpen und das Rigg aufrecht mit engen gestreckten Armen halten um genug Zug im Segel zu haben. 4,7 bei 25 Knoten ist NICHT überpowert, sondern bei deinem Gewicht sogar fast schon unterpowered, ja beim Wavewindsurfen muss man KRAFT aufwenden und darf/kann sich nicht durch die Gegend ziehen/cruisen lassen wie beim Slalom. Beim Springen hast Du die Segelpower gekillt weil Du den vorderen Arm angewinkelt hast direkt beim Absprung, richtig wäre: Arme lang, abspringen und DANN in der Luft die Arme winkeln, wie ein Pumpen, auf keinen Fall einen Klimmzug machen und den Körper zum Segel bewegen, sondern das Segel zum Körper ziehen. Wenn Du reinfährst hälst Du das Rigg besser, einfach mal mit dem Wavematerial rausgehen OHNE WELLE und das AKTIVE kraftvolle Segeln üben. Bribgt dich auch im Slalom auf ein neues Niveau.
Danke Rasmus 👍🏼 für die super Erklärung.
Mir fiel auch gleich die Race-Haltung auf, die habe ich ja auch 😢
Deinen Hinweis werde ich dann ab Samstag in El Medano gerne ausprobieren 😊
Genau - wave surfing a very active sport, and mostly out of the harness.
Übung macht den Meister...:-)
Just give it go mate!
Nice video🤙🤙
Enjoy the support comments, great vid and very enjoyable for “normal” sailors 🤙🏻🤙🏻
thanks for your feedback! Glad it's entertaining
Hard place to learn as the waves are nearly non-existent and therefore only breaking close to shore. I expect that the wind is thermally generated, hence only wind locally and for a short time. This means that there is no fetch for them to build up to a reasonable head-height. If there is a steep drop-off in depth, you would need much bigger waves to move things farther out from the beach. Well done for giving it a ago.
The spot looks incredible. Also nice looking combo of sail and board. What harness mount did you use for the Insta360?
glad to see that you're a human as well :-)
Hey Folks, first you have to like than you can watch 👍🏼
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Oh Yes!!!
This looks like so much fun! Was planning on trying the wave by Hvide Sande this year, so I hope there will be more instructive videos like this one ☺ P.S. could you do more theory on ramp/shore break and the different kind of waves that are suitable (or not) for waving?
cool idea, don't know if I'm the right person to do such a tutorial (yet) as I pretty much get washed a couple times every wave session :D
Hi Nils, nice stuff! Can that wave sail be used for free ride also?
Hi Nils! Good video, what camera and what lenses do you use to film on the beach? thanks!
Nice video Nils! What harness camera mount do you use?
5 hours! guts man! I'm done in 2.
Hi Nils, could you please include some info (it could be even just in the description of the video) about the date when the session was filmed and also how many mm in your neoprene suit so that we can get an idea about the conditions where you go.
No way roasting you ❤
I remember this spot when was in Tarifa 25 years ago, as a difficult place because of the very gusty conditions at the shore while out on the sea it was really windy, even for my 4 meter sails. But we had a lot of fun nevertheless. I would like to go there once more...but driving 2400km keeps holding me back 🙂
This is an excellent video, your wave sailing has improved heaps since last year! There is a downwind current so you need to sail broader on the way out and pump, pick the best ramp and turn back on a reach as you go up the face, pull on the booms for some thrust but almost instantly unweight yourself and pull your feet under you bum to lift the windward rail to get the wind under the board. Most importantly, next winter... come to Western Australia, we wave-sail on the same tack and we have a heap of smooth speed sailing spots.
edit... I remember my first big jump, I had been sailing in the river for a year and could gybe and was getting good speed. I launched off a chest high wave at good speed, I went so high I thought I was going to die and threw the rig away. Then I was hooked!
Thanks for your comment Rob,
that advice sounds very logical, will try to implement it on my next sessions! WA would be a great destination to travel to at some point, would love to come by, let's see...
I'd suggest that you pick maybe 3 specific moves or objectives to work on each time you go out. That way you will push yourself to focus on individual skills without feeling too limited or constrained.
good idea, focusing on some key stuff for each session always helps!
Great video, agreeing with the other ones - nice to see content, without pro-content only. Did you ever try surfing (without a sail)? Because that might help with windsurf-wave skills.
Hi Nils,
was mir bei Dir immer extrem auffällt, ist, daß Du keine/ganz selten Wassertropfen auf der Kameralinse hast.
Wie machst Du das?
Try this with a hand held wing like kite for a sail ????????
to me it looks like you stand on your wave board like you'd stand on a freeride board.
way too much weight on the backfoot and too comitted to the harness on the wave.
I'm not a good wave sailor myself but i think you'd want to stand on it like a normal surfboard (more over the centre). Bend your legs and carve with the toes of both feet
where is this?
Fahr halt weiter raus, da ist genug Wind und Rampen zum Springen sind auch genug da...
Die Welle ist ja dort mehr Shorebreak!-))
Ansonsten muss man nicht versuchen "down the line" zu surfen sondern kurze, slashige Moves zu machen. Ist halt mehr freestyle in der Welle als Waveriding. ...
Ansonsten noch viel Spaß in Tarifa!-)
Iwie hab Ich nie eine Rampe gefunden zum springen weiter draußen, liegt wahrscheinlich aber an meinem Skill Level dass Ich bei flachen Wellen nicht höher als max. 1m komme ;)