What the Difference? - Pro vs DIY Hammer Drills - Testing Milwaukee, Ridgid and Ryobi
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As someone who is just now looking to get into some tools at 35, I'd probably go with Ridgid - at least this generation. It was consistently competitive with the Milwaukee, both leaving the Ryobi in the dust, but also without being top end expensive. Also orange is my favorite color, so I may be biased :D
Solid conclusion. Ridgid has a lot to offer as a brand, like the LSA which I forgot to mention in the video.
@@TinkerWithTools The LSA is a huge point. There's a Hammer Drill + Impact Drill + Hard case + 2 free tools deal at Home Depot that is calling me.
Consider DeWalt instead. You can get DeWalt cloned tools and batteries . DeWalt has multiple tiers within the brand and is sold everywhere
@Sparkrdom that is how I started with Ridgid was the Gen 5x bogo holiday promos. I have since moved on from most of those tools but they did serve me well.
@@donaldstepp4850 I have considered it. I truly do not need the performance or price tag, as I am not a tradesman or professional. They are awesome tools, but not in my scope. Cheers!
Great explanation of the differences and expectations that should be placed on each brand/tier. Each level has its place, and this is something more should understand!
Thanks. I agree that each brand has its place. Not all brands are meant for heavy duty use and abuse, but I think it can be surprising how much a Ryobi can do these days should you find yourself in a place where it's the only tool you have or can afford.
@TinkerWithTools For sure. My wife LOVES the Ryobi cleaning stuff so I actually picked up this hammer drill as my house drill. Does everything I've asked it too, usually more than I need for in the house. But the Ridgid and Milwaukee stuff is out in the shop and toolboxes for the real work
I used ryobi as a brand for the random tools that they make. Love their glue gun, fans, etc. they don’t need to be super duty necessarily
@TinkerWithTools Also a fine point!
Great review! I have the Gen 4 Milwaukee and it's an absolute beast of a tool. It would be interesting to see the same test with impact drivers.
I’ll add the impact drivers to my list of video ideas.
awesome, looking forward to it. @@TinkerWithTools
love the review . i am in the trades i have owned many brands for different reasons .i think color can draw me in though .i sure pine for the newest and fanciest on the market . in the end though it just needs to do the job at hand
Great way to look at it.
I'm a ridgid fan for my tools, but have a few ryobi and Milwaukie tools as well
I am almost 50 and barely use the tools but I love to own good stuff that will last me 20 years 😅😊
Nothing wrong with that.
I have all 3 of these lines. It all comes down to the type of work and frequency of that work. Maybe even the type of person you are. My kid went and bought the Warrior brand from HF and came over trying to justify his purchase, yes it was cheap, cheap in all aspects and wanted to compare it to my cheapest line which was Ryobi, even the One+ brushed was far superior but said he won't use it but a handful of times a year so it doesn't matter. That only reinforces my opinion on brands and models. You don't have to buy out of your capacity. I myself do all kinds of projects and prefer certain brands/ models for certain jobs. Milwaukee seems to be my most robust, but Dewalt isn't in its shadow by any means. Your analysis is the same as mine with these 3 brands. Rigid is my 2nd favorite out of them but usually gets used the least.
I have had a tendency in the past to say “if I am going to pay more money, I might as well buy the best” and that’s sometimes where prosumer level brands get left out sometimes. And I am not saying that just as a way of picking on Ridgid, but I think it goes for all that level of tools.
I hear what you're saying. Out of those 3 I like Ridgid the most, its not the best by any means in my opinion, I have an outdoor hobby that kind of correlates with my drill/impact preferences on grip. Each person is different, my preferences are no better than any others. @@TinkerWithTools
I think you are right. I'm a DIYer who is buying the minimum priced junk to actually do a job. For example, I picked up a Skil 12v circular saw. It's slow and it's dumb but it's small, convenient, and doesn't bog down. I don't care about the time it takes because I'm doing like one day of work with the thing per year at best.
I have a high quality Bosch drill (that's old as hell now so probably sucks) because for me, drilling is very very annoying, and I buy the Bosch bits. Even though I only use it once a month, it was very worth it.
I have Ryobi and Milwaukee ( I have the Ridgid boxes) the Ryobi stays home and Milwaukee and DeWalt are used at work
@@funkmonthe Skil 12v circular saw is actually a good tool and in my opinion the top 5 1/2 inch cordless circular saw out there right now. It’s better than the M12 Milwaukee and way cheaper
Love the channel good review and comparison for sure. One thing I’ve been wanting to see someone test is pro level 12v vs consumer level 18/20v. I’ve got Milwaukee M12 pro level stuff for work (HVAC) and feel it will outperform my consumer level Dewalt 20v even though around the same price.
I have past videos where I have compared M12 fuel against the sub compact tools on 18v lineup. It does lose out on some performance or speed on tasks but it can do most of the same things. I like that you can get a pro level tool in that size of package. That’s possibly what’s most appealing to me.
And example of the video was I did the new Milwaukee compact (non fuel stuff) against the M12. But I’ll have to look for another opportunity to do it.
@@TinkerWithTools yes I loved those video’s comparing the compact m18 stuff with the m12. I find the top tier 12v stuff will keep up with if not exceed most consumer branded stuff hart/bauer/craftsman and give you much smaller form factor for the same price. Just don’t see anyone talking about it because most people on CZcams just want the biggest baddest new tool that came out lol
There's no such thing as pro level 12 volt.
@@MrMatt3046 hmm I’d have to disagree, m12 force logic press tool, Dewalt 12v max ratchet (outperforms there 20v), snap on 14.4 impact wrench are just some examples that were all designed and are used in professional use.
I have the Milwaukee Gen 4, and one of it's best features, apart from the performance, is the Autostop feature, it's also shorter. I And I'm not a pro, but the kit with the Impact gen 4 and this hammer drill, wins every time against any competition.
You are right. And while Ridgid has anti kickback it can’t be turned off like the Milwaukee.
This is why I subscribe to the thought process of having two brands. If you have the money, get your main/heavy use tools (drills, impact driver, etc.) in a higher tier prosumer/contractor brand (milwaukee, dewalt, flex, Metabo HPT, etc.) and get your limited use/specialty tools in a DIY brand (Ryobi, Craftsman, etc.). Use the DIY brand tools in your limited use/specialty category until they break, then replace it with a prosumer/contractor branded version.
Personally, I have Flex hammer drill/impact driver/circular saw/sander (just because I really like their sander design) and Ryobi for the multi-tool, one hand recip saw, inflators, etc. If the multi-tool dies on me I'll happily go buy the Flex one, but it is nice being able to run to Home Depot (or Lowes, or whatever) and pick up a Ryobi drill/driver/2 batteries + two free tools for the price of 1 dewalt/flex/milwaukee tool.
I want to like Rigid but 1) the variability of performance combined with 2) the very small price difference makes it a hard sell for me.
I didn’t a video where this was my conclusion/recommendation as well. I also like having a second brand simply so your aren’t locked into a garbage tool if that’s what your primary brand offers.
The gen 3 handle would occasionally break off under heavy pressure, so they redesigned the handle to wrap around the sides more
Thanks for including metric values, appreciated :) imho ryobi should be around 80-90 max, for 120 I can get mid sized xgt drill in the eu (for some very weird reason it is 199 in the us, just 40 less than the big boy xgt drill, while it is almost half the cost of it in the eu)
Ryobi goes on sale often enough that you can get it for cheaper ($99 right now for example). And yeah the Makita prices in the US are pretty high and they simply don’t go on sale all that often. I wish they did but unfortunately Makita just isn’t doing well in the US right now.
@@TinkerWithTools yeah pretty weird, idk why they would do that especially considering that usa is not their largest market (it is not like they will earn that much extra lol)
I am currently with Ridgid. My company partner has Milwaukee and Ridgid. In all levels of home construction there isn't realy any tool that i feel i am missing in the ridgid platform. We do little competitions with our tools and the new Ridgids dont seem really that far behind his Milwaukees if at all in some cases. Especially the new rear handle saws. I am a little conservative in my spending. So i would probably end up back with Ridgid if i started over. In reality i would have a mix. Like i do now. Great vid by the way.
Thanks. And a mix is a great solution as well.
I think TTI intentionally holds back the Rigid /AEG performance in order to fit in with their overall marketing scheme. A shame because I think some of those German designed tools were or are better if given the specs they wanted.
This would explain the see saw ride in their performance over the years, more in terms of design freedom and constraints.
Yeah I can understand the need to TTI to focus the brand on the level they intend it for.
Have the 3 AMP Octane battery and it's nice and LITE I'm SURE that RIDGID is coming out with a POUCH CELLS SOON just TTI has to make it SMALLER like a 4 AMP
It will be interesting to see how long until they roll it out to brands like Ryobi or Ridgid.
Milwaukee warranty is great!
True. Both Milwaukee and Ridgid has pretty good warranties.
I use Ryobi power tools for home use since at home I’m not abusing my tools versus work. For work purposes I use Dewalt and Milwaukee tools, but that’s mostly because I started out with dewalt and the company I work for is invested in mostly Milwaukee tools these days. Although we do enjoy using some rigid products such as the pancake air compressor and their framing nailers and brad nailers as well
Buy the power tools you can at that time for your needs and budget… most drills/impact drivers will get the job done but there’s some tasks that’s are best left to a rotary hammer drill, screw gun, right angle drill etc etc…
FYI: it doesn’t matter what size battery you have after 3.0Ah… For example, I have various batteries for my dewalt power tools ranging from the 1.7 power stack to the 9.0Ah flex volt battery & they all get the job done…. 4.0/5.0Ah is the sweet spot if your working in the trades… same goes for Milwaukee and Makita batteries…. It is nice to have batteries that output more power for the tool since you work less trying to get the job done but is it really worth it?
If you got the extra cash lying around then yes… otherwise no…. Despite my flex volt batteries costing me $200 for Two 9.0Ah car batteries… I could’ve bought Four 5.0Ah XR brick batteries for about $200 as well… which basically means less frequent charge runs
Love me some Makita but have you used for longevity. Bosh is hard to beat at least their older bush stuff has been for me. There batteries are some of the best on the market or again have been in my experience.
Bosch has some impressive tools (like their newest hammer drill or the flexiclicks) but they also have some duds and unfortunately a lot of the nicer tools aren’t as easy to come by in my market. Yes you can order online but in stores they are somewhat buried with a limited selection.
@@TinkerWithTools very true need more variety in stores.
I missed part of your video so I don't know if you mentioned this and it's something I did not know until yesterday, were you aware that you can actually disable the kickback function on the Milwaukee apparently you can put the drill in lockout mode and press the trigger five times and it will flash the light disabling the kickback feature
I didn’t mention it in this video but it was covered in the initial review of this drill last year.
I'd definitely prefer a pro model drill to have a secondary handle.
If it doesn't at least have a second handle It'll be that much more dangerous to use holesaws and annular cutters with.
It's why I talk down so harshly on the dewalt dcd800 despite it having a 900UW power rating.
Going a step further though. . At the absolute HIGH END: A _commercial_ grade drill should have an emergency shutoff as well which is why I love the Kobalt XTR hammer drill and the HILTI SF-6H. I have a decade old brushed makita (brushed LXPH03) that's powerful as the Hilti but doesn't have a shutoff. It looooves to attempt to smash peoples' skulls in when holesawing.
Yeah that drill with an optional handle would be awesome. It’s capable of a lot but gets a little sketchy on bigger stuff.
If shoppers look closely there is no need to be spending $200.00 on the M18. I purchased mine a few days ago for the ridiculous price of $91.00! And yes, it was in the original box, and the serial numbers match up between the label on the box and drill.
Yes you will be able to find better deals. But that will be true with each of the brands too.
The Amazon one. Im.kinda sketched to buy it because milwaukee doesn't sell on Amazon so I doubt they'd honor a warranty among other things like the sellers credibility.
@@durantplayz7111they are not the same they are different I seen someone buy a Amazon one and store bought and they look the same but weigh different
@@durantplayz7111 The warranty card is in the box. I think they would have to honor it. But frankly at that price I don’t care if it’s under warranty or not. I also watched a separate video of a comparison between that and HD, and there was no difference. Of course, YMMV
@louisd95714 I ended up buying it. Comes today. Well see how it goes.
Had to replace two Milwaukee hammer drill chucks. Never again. Gonna try out the new Hercules next time.
Never seen a dewalt chuck break other than some plastic piece of shit on that brushed drill that should be illegal to sell
Sucks that has happened. Were they able to be replaced under warranty or did you have to replace them yourself. I know that neither option is optimal but at least if you get them warrantied it's not money out of your pocket.
The Hercules is a pretty decent drill. Definitely a step up from their brushed stuff and power competitive. For me it lacks some of the refinement of some of the bigger brands but you don't pay the price of the bigger brands either.
Maybe try with makita if you want quality and longevity :)
Not a fan of their hammer drills! Chuck’s suck! Speed selector gets jammed and chuck constantly drops bits.
I have the Milwaukee 12V drill driver set use it often. However Milwaukee powertools doesn't stand out for me. For any given powertool either yellow, green, or blue has something noticeably better than red for what I look for
Thanks for sharing
Only one Ridgid octane battery had 21,700 cells That was the 3ah. All the rest of them had the 18650s
I appreciate the info!
Nice review again! If you have just a couple of tools at home or in the garage - why not they be Makita, Hikoki, Milwaukee or Dewalt - instead of some cheap brand? I mean - they don't cost a fortune anyways and it is a one time investment - and they will be used for many years, if not decades, this is not like smartphones. Apart from the sheer power - the ''professional'' ones are nicer to use, smoother, more precise and generally better build. And the best thing is that you don''t have to have to be a professioal or have a license to buy them :)
One thing which is quite important to me on those drills - is the so called ''chuck wobbel''. It is crucial if you use them to drill holes on a jig. And it is nice to have a close to 100% straight chuck generally, escepially for drilling, not so ofor screwing and fastening. Out of the many many tools that i have bought and used (german, japanese, american) - I can not find a pattern, showing that a certain brand have better consistancy on that (well - Hitachi / Hikoki seems to have the staightes ones actually, but only the top-tier model, the mid-range one chuck is pretty average and after a couple of years use the whole chuck just broke on mine). But generally - is always a hit or miss and it depends on the particular sample, not so much the brand itself.
Chuck wobble like you said is often variable on depending on the individual model you own versus the brand as a whole. For the most part I find that the tools I buy are good enough for the majority of the work I do.
Yes, especially on screwing - it pretty much does not matter. More in general in drilling and crucially on a jig.@@TinkerWithTools
Just curious what sorts of jigs are you making/using.
Kreg pocket holes@@TinkerWithTools
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You’re welcome!
Ridgid beats Milwaukee is some tools and Milwaukee beat most Ridgid and Ryobi tools. Ryobi has more of the special tools you can't find with either
That’s the thing with Ridgid, they have some tools that perform so well and then they have others that get clobbered by the likes of Milwaukee. I wish it were more consistent.
The answer is yes. Also 12 volt tools are not professional.
I guess we will disagree there. I think it comes down to application. I am not going to grab my M12 Hammer drill to go and drill a 3/8” hole on concrete but they have several tools and that I would definitely deem professional level tools depending on the application.
@TinkerWithTools they lack performance.
@@TinkerWithTools I just really don't like the grips on the Milwaukie 12 volt, and i had a set of Makita 12 voilt years ago that were trash. I still love Makita tho.
Yes they are worth it. Only "unless" is that they are overpowered and in the long run they will fail, where you wont be able to fix one part by ordering replacement, but needing to order whole inside as its one piece. Yeah, thats Milwaukee in a nutshell. DIY tool hiding under pro-consumer level.
I have had one drill go bad but it was replaced under warranty. But I have also had success getting parts for older tools at times. I get that it won’t be everything but so far i guess I have had good luck.
@@TinkerWithTools Keyword - replaced. So basically once it breaks, its scrap, since you need to replace whole insides which are 95% price of a new tool. Makita and Bosch parts can be bought and fixed for cheap, even after warranty. Hence companies like Milwaukee are often describe as DIY tools, but people still hold to the past tools which were made to last and not last one year and cant admit that quality of their tools and service is poor.
"whole insides which are 95% price of a new tool." "Hence companies like Milwaukee are often describe as DIY tools,.."
Do you have any evidence for these claims? Sounds like opinion to me.@@michaelfairchild
@@devonboyer626 I dont know why my previous reply wasnt posted, but here you go. Check videos of people repairing tools for a living (repairing and not restoration). They all will tell you that you cannot buy a single part, but you have to buy whole or almost whole inside. If your switch fails, you need to buy battery connectors, control board, switch and motor as it is sold by Milwaukee as a single part. Sometime it also include the gearbox, hence you have to buy everything apart from the plastic mold. Reason why Milwaukee replace the tools and not fix them. From newer videos of people repairing tools it seems DeWalt is also going the same route as Milwaukee. Disclaimer: Dont get me wrong - older tools are beasts, but modern now are expendible DIY tools using old fame.
Conclusion... buy Makita
Nothing wrong with Makita. Nice tools to use!
Used to love Makita but I think they have lowered standards recently, buy dewalt and Mafell now .
@@pincermovement72exactly. They are having company problems to boot. Also, i did work for a company that dropped DeWalt and went everything Makita. There were 2 glaring problems with them. One- if you dropped the tool they would just quit working, no matter what you did they were just dead. That has been seen all over you tube of people testing them. I have done that to about 3 tools. Drills, sanders, and impacts. Doesn't seem to matter. 2- the handles are pretty small. They dont fit my hands or a lot of other workers. Then there are tons of other little things like the rubber coming off, crappy battery selectio, impacts just freeze up and the forward and reverse switches not working so and so on.
No Dewalt?, boo!
As I mentioned in the video we did all the brand hierarchy, in this case TTI, in this video. You could substitute several brands for the place of that professional line.