How to Play the Ride Cymbal like Tony Williams - The 80/20 Drummer

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2015
  • the8020drummer.com/lessons/tony - get the transcriptions at this link!
    Intro music by Oli Bernatchez - / @olibernatchez
  • Hudba

Komentáře • 203

  • @drumroll420
    @drumroll420 Před 3 lety +54

    To play the ride cymbal like Tony, well this is what he showed me when I studied with him for a few brief months: you hold the stick with the back three fingers, you make every stroke from the wrist, and you pull back the stick not with your fingers, but the whole hand at the end of the spang a lang, like spang spang a LANG. Tony was like "you pull the stick back to where you almost hit yourself in the head with it." He stood behind me while I was on the kit doing the lesson, and he he grabbed my wrist and literally used my arm and my wrist with me holding the stick to play the ride. There really was hardly any fingers at all. Then he got behind the kit, played it a blazing tempo, and looked at me in a manner almost bored and said "I can do this all day". I wanted to kiss him that was just so full of awesome.

    • @antoinepaine8097
      @antoinepaine8097 Před 3 lety +1

      Wow 😫😫😫😫😫🔥

    • @leocomerford
      @leocomerford Před 2 lety

      Hmm. That's certainly not how Williams played the ride himself back in 1967 czcams.com/video/T5pT9200HPs/video.html . He didn't even consistently play the ride that way in 1985 czcams.com/video/rAw2f_n0-h0/video.html , though there are _some_ points where he seems to have switched to a rear-fingers grip.

    • @Adm_Guirk
      @Adm_Guirk Před 2 lety +1

      @@leocomerford In the first one it looked like a hybrid of what this guy said and then he switches his fulcrum to the front fingers. It's a rolling fulcrum through his fingers.

    • @simonkirchner6036
      @simonkirchner6036 Před 2 lety

      @@leocomerford Tony also says he uses it this way in a masterclass in the late 80s I think! There‘s a great drum history pocast for this kinda stuff

    • @lwlakksjd
      @lwlakksjd Před 3 měsíci

      Stop capping

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer  Před 4 lety +45

    I'm 98% sure this lesson is the reason I've never been invited on Drumeo

    • @jesseolsson1697
      @jesseolsson1697 Před 4 lety +1

      why do you say that?

    • @jesseolsson1697
      @jesseolsson1697 Před 4 lety +3

      ohhhhh because of the old “one handed roll” video you made fun of in the beginning

    • @haekalbadjeber988
      @haekalbadjeber988 Před 3 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @JeffRandallDrumming
    @JeffRandallDrumming Před 9 lety +10

    GREAT job man! I loved all the insight you gave between rebound and fast-twitch playing. This will definitely help me in my own playing.

  • @toby4517
    @toby4517 Před 6 lety

    I can't begin to tell you how much I love the intro about waiting in the Green Room...it's just fantastic imagery.

  • @flddoc2
    @flddoc2 Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks for your approach to this. When I heard Tony Williams description of, what I took away as hope vs. certainty, not relying on the uncertainty of bounce but control and hit each note I was struggling with Allman Brothers One Way Out. His thinking to me is sound and logical but in my case much easier said than put into practical application. It’s taken me many years work and frustration to almost be able to play fast, complex ride cymbal patterns with certainty and consistency. I’m a retired soldier of 26 years who had to mothball my kit for 15 years until I retired. Within the last 3 years I’ve realized I wanted to commit to playing drums professionally. I’m on the late side of 50 now physically worn from injuries and war wounds. Mentally fractured but finding therapy in music. I’m admittedly behind the power curve and things seem more difficult now. I refuse to believe or accept my ability is simply failing however this aspect of my playing is the most worrisome, troubling part of my playing that is mentally challenging and wears on my confidence. Hopefully these exercises will help. Also your muscle twitch/memory explanation has changed my approach to an easier way of thinking. You aren’t necessarily relying on what can be an inconsistent bounce if your muscle memory “plays” the bounce if that makes sense. Anyway, it makes sense to me and a I feel hopeful for good things. Thanks again.

    • @user-jh8ov8pi3l
      @user-jh8ov8pi3l Před 12 dny +1

      Stay strong brother

    • @flddoc2
      @flddoc2 Před 11 dny +1

      @@user-jh8ov8pi3l Thank you my friend. I’m still playing with two extremely talented musicians in a very popular group. I’ve slowly gotten better with fast ride cymbal patterns and can almost play whatever I want now. Persistence pays off and works I suppose. My new challenge is learning double stroke rolls accented on the second note. Holy cow! That is insanely difficult for me. Unless I’m understanding it incorrectly it seems to apply the same concept of controlled double stroke rolls. That’s the insane part. I’ve always relied on bounce for double strokes but you simply cannot do that and accent the second bounce. At least I can’t get the technique. But man, that second note accent sounds sooooo sweet. Hopefully I’ll master it before I die 😉. Do you play? Any advice on this?

    • @user-jh8ov8pi3l
      @user-jh8ov8pi3l Před 11 dny +1

      @@flddoc2 I use a technique called “push pull” for doubles

  • @mossycave4023
    @mossycave4023 Před 7 lety +2

    This is the video i've been looking for. thank you for this

  • @christopherodonnell3586
    @christopherodonnell3586 Před 8 lety +42

    I think the A on your piano is a little broken lol

  • @stevenraparelli3396
    @stevenraparelli3396 Před 3 lety

    Great Lesson. I appreciate how you broke down the TW ride strokes.

  • @stevedegeorge
    @stevedegeorge Před 8 lety +9

    Great Job on this video Nate! I just wanted everyone to know here that I have seen Tony Williams in person at the Modern Drummer Festival in NJ. He opened up his clinic with the most incredible double stroke roll I have ever seen on the snare drum for a minimum of 5 minutes. It was at every dynamic level imaginable, just unbelievable. Tony went into great depth regarding his technique related to all the various surfaces that made up his drumkit. He told over 1000 people in the audience He DID NOT use rebound in his playing. He pushed and pulled every stroke! He did not rely on the instrument to rebound/bounce the stick back. This would explain his massive hands, arms and shoulders. The man was a physical specimen like no other i have ever seen play a drumkit, one of a kind.

    • @twelge15
      @twelge15 Před 6 lety +2

      stevedegeorge That old MD Drum Festival where Jo Jo Mayer debuts? When he did the super fast push pull technique on his ride?? That's the technique Tony used for the fast six note ride cymbal grouping, your right! But even guys who can execute it like Jo Jo can, can't get it to swing like Tony did with Miles.

  • @manuelgchapajr2000
    @manuelgchapajr2000 Před 5 lety +3

    COOL LESSON!
    LOVE my Tony Williams Yellow GRETSCH DRUMS now if I could only play like Tony!!!

  • @rcullen5897
    @rcullen5897 Před 8 lety +3

    very relaxed, good technique, and other than the pant material, nothing to criticize. And he is giving you advice from people he spoke to like Riley who every drummer has his book.

  • @robertbunker780
    @robertbunker780 Před 4 lety +4

    You're brilliant. You're also crazy. I am both. I would love to study what you know. Almost everything you said, I said it a couple seconds before you did. You are spot on. I graduated from Musicians Institute, with honor. Most important lesson I could teach someone is this... you are only as good as your last performance.,... thank you for sharing what you've shared here. I would love to contact you- I'm selling everything, and moving to Nashville.... chasing this dream I started 40 years ago

  • @autodidacticprofessor869
    @autodidacticprofessor869 Před 7 lety +126

    How to play the ride cymbal like Tony Williams.
    Step 1: Be Tony Williams.
    The end. ;)

    • @ofdrumsandchords
      @ofdrumsandchords Před 6 lety +1

      His ride was cracked, that's why he sounded so much like Tony Williams.

    • @virgilrw
      @virgilrw Před 5 lety +1

      Ian Ballard
      That's the same thing I was thinking...
      😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @virgilrw
      @virgilrw Před 5 lety +1

      Tony Williams was like the Bruce Lee of Drummers!
      My analysis...
      😎😎😎😎😎

    • @oldboy9267
      @oldboy9267 Před 5 lety +1

      no, that would be how to play the ride as tony williams

  • @toddvanfleet8576
    @toddvanfleet8576 Před 4 lety +1

    VERY cool.
    Studying and Stick Fulcrum/Finger grips obsessively for a month now.
    This Tony Williams lesson fits right in .
    The 80/20 HH/Snr lesson you emailed me(thank you- I will send money).
    Clean concise rolks.Grooves relaxed on 8th and 16ths- Fills with Chick magnet speed. Now this .
    Ain't it great. .
    Hope it's cool to post the following:.
    A Late Great Tony Williams👏 experience. (I share this humbly )...
    Had the honor of playing his yellow kit (dots on the bottom!) for a year. My snare/cymbals His kit.
    His set up
    With Bill Spooner .The Tubes lead guitarist/songwriter . "WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE "..crazy performance fusion sh..t. Great live band
    The kit Tony donated.
    A band Concepts class 1997.
    Heavy.
    Quick tap to the heart, point to the heavens above every time before playing.
    Let's do this...
    Tony Williams spirit , juju vibe was unavoidable.
    I pulled s.. t off on that kit I had no business knowing at that time in my career.
    Tony had Returned to Forever.
    Spooner was a task master with a genius streak. Took me under his wing- Changed me as a player.
    Thanks Nate.
    And Tony Williams.⭐

  • @jaylotz5901
    @jaylotz5901 Před 9 lety

    Spent an hour looking this up just yesterday and there weren't any good videos. Thanks dude.

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 9 lety

      Jay Lotz Whaaaaaaaat. Hope I did a decent enough job! Hit me up at 8020drummer@gmail.com if you want to let me know how it goes:)

  • @jacobmendez655
    @jacobmendez655 Před 9 lety +3

    This is great Nate. I doubt you'll ever know the impact your having on new generations of drummers.. But these videos have helped me and friends. Cheers

  • @billbigler1366
    @billbigler1366 Před rokem

    Very nice lesson. Thanks very much.

  • @leomarland3471
    @leomarland3471 Před 5 lety +26

    Im a sax player why have I watched this whole thing

    • @Talkingdrum103
      @Talkingdrum103 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm a drummer and I'm asking myself the same question.

  • @micaofboca
    @micaofboca Před 9 lety +8

    You have a very nice ear and feel for the light strength behind Tony's unique sound thanks to his incredible ride cymbal clarity, speed and groove. His polyrhythms and Elvin's,too, rose to the sublime. I used to love to see Joe Chambers play with Andrew Hill back in the '60's at Slugs in New York. He's another monster, not to mention dozens of others. But Tony's style went beyond what everyone else was doing. When I saw him with Larry Young and John McLaughlin play at Slugs it opened new paths in electric music that used Jazz to create a whole new milieu. But is Blue Note work when he was all of 19 years old was just beyond belief. A Scott LaFaro of the drums.

    • @PatrickManzecchi
      @PatrickManzecchi Před 8 lety

      +Don Lackritz ....very nice comment!

    • @micaofboca
      @micaofboca Před 8 lety

      +Patrick Manzecchi Thanks Patrick

    • @lxxwj
      @lxxwj Před 6 lety

      holy shit you saw the tony williams trio? must have been an amazing experience

    • @Rono49
      @Rono49 Před 6 lety

      A "Scottish LazFaro" of the drums". I've never seen that comparison made before, and it's a perfect one. Tony was also a prodigy. He was studying privately with Alan Dawson while I was at Berklee in the early 60s, and Max Roach in NYC at the same time. There was a rumor that Tony was living with Max, too.
      ~ Ron

    • @Rono49
      @Rono49 Před 6 lety

      But

  • @clarkewi
    @clarkewi Před 7 lety +14

    I really like that guitar intro. Spacy.

  • @tylerblake3596
    @tylerblake3596 Před 8 lety +1

    I love that 5-stroke exercise. very reminiscent of Chris Dave type stuff when it's sped up a little

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Před 9 lety

    Ignore any thumbs down! This is an excellent lesson and believe you me I've looked a hundreds of them. Extremely interesting and fresh! Back after a week of working this up and it opened up an amazing place in my technique. It grows and can be applied many other way. The is a $100.00 Worth!

  • @octoberjones3533
    @octoberjones3533 Před 9 lety

    this is the best jazz lesson i have seen for me

  • @tomaszha
    @tomaszha Před 8 lety

    outstanding lesson. keep up!

  • @SteveCournane
    @SteveCournane Před 3 lety

    Great class. Thanks so much

  • @boblatzer
    @boblatzer Před 4 lety +4

    Tony Williams said in an interview that I saw he does not use finger technique or bounce. He said unless you hang on to the stick you have no control. He seemed to snap the stick holding it toward the end. It was at a drum clinic I watched on uTube. Those were not someone else’s words-they were his.

  • @NATAGUILARMUSIC
    @NATAGUILARMUSIC Před 8 lety

    Thanks for posting this!

  • @robertbush2068
    @robertbush2068 Před 8 lety

    Well done! Really well done!!!

  • @weeeBloom
    @weeeBloom Před rokem

    Great lesson!! Thanks a lot!

  • @MehtabKirtan
    @MehtabKirtan Před 4 lety

    Love this: Thank you.

  • @stevenkorenek389
    @stevenkorenek389 Před 7 lety

    keep up the good work! Thank you

  • @ThunderBren
    @ThunderBren Před 7 lety

    really enjoyed this, thanks. i always liked to try and get it equal with both hands and mess around the snare accent and then increase speed. until i felt like was 'pushing/washing' the ride. ahh, 3-4 hrs a day of groovin'! you're a great player!

  • @SimoneFolcarelli
    @SimoneFolcarelli Před 8 lety +1

    Hi man, how is call the song at the beginning??

  • @azraygun
    @azraygun Před 9 lety

    Thank you...wish 'you and 'CZcams were around 20 years ago...(I will get this because you are a good teacher).

  • @VouVouVou_music
    @VouVouVou_music Před 9 lety

    greeting from Aus mate, love your vids. Do you have any transcriptions?

  • @gerardogonzalez6117
    @gerardogonzalez6117 Před 4 lety

    Thanks man! Good job!

  • @Giuseppetiberi
    @Giuseppetiberi Před 8 lety

    Hi thank you for your video, can I ask you how you recorded the drum's sound?

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez Před 9 lety

    Nailed! Thanks.

  • @kylekatarn6056
    @kylekatarn6056 Před 3 lety

    Finally i can do it 🎉😜 thank you nate!

  • @stubowl1
    @stubowl1 Před 7 lety

    good teacher.

  • @Rad631
    @Rad631 Před 6 lety

    Awesome!

  • @TheJazzdr
    @TheJazzdr Před 5 lety

    love that wobbly cymbal

  • @threod820
    @threod820 Před 5 lety

    I love how you do advanced drumming lessons. It's like as a drummer I've found preggressively more difficult drum channels as my playing has improved. Still not at Yoni Madar level though :P

  • @Avedisdrummer09
    @Avedisdrummer09 Před 8 lety +36

    Is this intro a spoof on Jared Folk's goofy old "one handed roll" video?

  • @JB5D
    @JB5D Před 4 lety

    Great Stuff!

  • @tomasw6985
    @tomasw6985 Před rokem

    Your bass drum is tuned to the same note as my 14" rack tom. Yes, I grew up in the 80's. I like how Simmon Phillips never changed his kit since at least the 80's. Check him out with Hiromi. Killer piano player!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @Locrian1
    @Locrian1 Před 6 lety

    I've been playing for about two years now. Your videos have helped me so much. Thank you. Btw, what does 80/20 mean?

  • @skyreadersociety6183
    @skyreadersociety6183 Před 5 lety +1

    like the guitar in your intro track

  • @ThomasistheTwin
    @ThomasistheTwin Před 5 lety

    It's a combination of finger control, wrist flick, stick drop hight. Start with your arm and stick high. Drop, bounce, flick. Raise arm. Repeat. Your using your wrist to reach from a hight and bounce more as the impact coils and an accent sustain to reset.

  • @kingsweetfly7711
    @kingsweetfly7711 Před 6 lety +1

    this is some good shit ... the point in bounce ride cymbal playing is very similar to the single stroke roll ..at some point you start bouncing them

  • @Twist3dWizard
    @Twist3dWizard Před 7 lety

    What size ride cymbal is that? It looks like a mel lewis istanbul agop, but what size?

  • @1955davids
    @1955davids Před 8 lety +1

    It seems when I begin hating internet, hi-tech anything, and life in the 21st century in general, I find something like this and thank God in heaven for instant access to information. And, I thank you for taking the time to share this.

  • @MoonTea510
    @MoonTea510 Před 9 lety

    That track in the beginning!! Love the lesson!

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 8 lety

      +Emunti Herrera Track is by Oli Bernatchez, badass drummer and composer who puts me to shame. Search him!

    • @MoonTea510
      @MoonTea510 Před 8 lety

      +The 80/20 Drummer thank you!!

    • @JustusVidyo
      @JustusVidyo Před 7 lety +2

      cant seem to find the track. i ended up listening to all his uploads and bought both cds off his bandcamp tho. mb anyone can help me out finding the song

  • @brinkwerks
    @brinkwerks Před 10 měsíci

    hey, appreciate the lesson - sidebar question- love the intro music, followed the link to Oli’s channel, dig his older session vids, but didn’t find the intro music you used. is it available as a standalone track?

  • @mickberry164
    @mickberry164 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm not following this. Are you in 4/4, 3/4, some kind of polyrhythm over 4/4. I appreciate what you're showing, and thanks for the effort. But I'm writing it down as well as I can, and I can't understand exactly what you're doing. Is it played in 4/4? Or in 6 quarter notes? Thanks

  • @oktnodez
    @oktnodez Před 9 lety +1

    Those exercises you present are genius! Thanks for the inspiration nate :-)

    • @ns81
      @ns81 Před 9 lety

      Wow thanks so much dude!

  • @rcullen5897
    @rcullen5897 Před 8 lety

    Lol why do people give this guy thumbs down. The things he gets criticized for are things you should be doing, the other video where people say ahh great but you need to hit harder and like tense up. Lol

  • @ivanbrito9017
    @ivanbrito9017 Před 2 lety

    which hihat are you using?

  • @yannlyiii1028
    @yannlyiii1028 Před 9 lety

    Thx!

  • @dikbeats2720
    @dikbeats2720 Před 4 lety +2

    Hey man, great lesson. On an upside to this shit we're all in, it's inspiring lessons like these that keep a lot of us going and not much else to do at the moment apart from learn more and play/practice. Sort of takes the edge of things.. As does mezcal! Stay well, nate. - dik beats south coast england

    • @westleedrums
      @westleedrums Před 2 lety

      August 2021 I was able to practice acoustic drums again since 2003. Has helped keep my head up

  • @popeye5432
    @popeye5432 Před 7 lety +1

    Not drums, but I am old enough to remember "Play Guitar Like The Ventures" on the back of comic books.
    For another instructional video, see: "Variations on the Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression".

  • @JoeyvanLeeuwen
    @JoeyvanLeeuwen Před 9 lety

    Dig man...One question though...Do you alternate thumb on top with other grips? I had the fortune to receive some guidance from Stanton Moore who recommended switching grips on longer gigs, which I paid little mind until the end of my first 6-hour show when I noticed an intense pain in the tendon on top of my thumb. Since then I've been focusing on getting the same motion with the hand rotated to more of a German grip. Have you noticed any pain with this grip in longer playing situations?

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 9 lety +1

      No, but that doesn't mean you're doing it wrong. Hmmm - maybe it's finally time for a Hands video;)

  • @dr8627
    @dr8627 Před 8 lety +2

    gretsch drums rule, i play gretsch brooklyn but would love to own a stop sign kit as well, i do however have a 70s slingerland as well!

  • @user-jh8ov8pi3l
    @user-jh8ov8pi3l Před 12 dny

    What time signature? Is it a polyrhythm over 4/4?

  • @Guds777
    @Guds777 Před 5 lety

    What is the ride you are using.

  • @DavidMcmenemy
    @DavidMcmenemy Před 9 lety +1

    Great lesson, mate. What is the song you're playing along to at the 0:35 mark?

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 8 lety

      +David Mcmenemy Oli Bernatchez' original track:)

  • @bojangles6444
    @bojangles6444 Před 2 lety

    I’m a drummer named Nate too. Must be a lot of us. I always noticed the jazz guys who play really fast usually make smaller motions- not Tony!!

  • @eduardodonascimentojunior8247

    awesome microphone! :D

  • @dukeraul76
    @dukeraul76 Před 5 lety

    Bro what's up with that crate amp?

  • @raymondkarlsson9794
    @raymondkarlsson9794 Před 7 lety +2

    Great ideas and ways to achieve progress. Sad with all the idiots trying to comment, though.

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins5552 Před 5 lety

    Can you plày that style on hihat where it is more obvious that stick bounce is not driving the swing rhythm? Nice Istanbul ride is it 21 or 22? I have an old hihat UFIP but a newish paiste heavy alpha ride as I play more jazz/pop/rock style, thanks. Ignore utube haters, they always bitch about everything because they lack ability in the real World. P.s have you done an Elvin Jones or Joe Morello style video, that would be helpful too?

  • @Psycho9263
    @Psycho9263 Před 6 lety

    The cymbal bounce is actually "The Moeller Technique". The control is also in the fingers as well. You also want that continuity in the beat. Btw, when are you going to fix that old Piano? Some players have problems with 5/4 because they are so accustomed to 4/4. A great book to get would be "Rhythmic Training" by Robert Starer. It will help with odd or unfamiliar time signatures and how to approach those time signatures. As you said; "5/4 can be played as 2 against 3 or 3 against 2. 7/4 is like that. 4-3 or 3-4.

  • @user-jt3py8lv7h
    @user-jt3py8lv7h Před 8 lety +3

    thanks for sharing this, Thanks!!

  • @buddyrich4968
    @buddyrich4968 Před 8 lety

    80/20 Drummer, where did you get that exact version(non-lyric same tempo) of intro music. The Oli Bernatchez link doesn't have that same exact segment or a more complete version for that matter. Thanks for help in advance.

    • @ns81
      @ns81 Před 8 lety +1

      Oli wrote it for me:)

    • @buddyrich4968
      @buddyrich4968 Před 8 lety

      And Kendrick Lamar wrote "Swimming Pools" for Oli no doubt? So is it top secret then? :)

  • @wataday2day
    @wataday2day Před 9 lety

    OK, I am working on my up tempo ride since a bit now. I don't really see the point of practicing odd times rhythms when you just want to increase your comfort while playing fast swing. I get you when you speak of bounce vs control and I agree on that. But my issue today is that I can't get passed that 290bpm and I don't see how what you show here can help me with that. (Maybe I didn't get the purpose of the video, it may be). You do a great job and I appreciate your commitment. Oh, and I'm new again to the drums after a 15 years swing by the bass side.

    • @ns81
      @ns81 Před 9 lety +2

      Two reasons - 1) by playing in 6 instead of 8, you're "zooming in" on only the most difficult part, and hitting it 30% more frequently. 2) for the 5, I found that letting less time elapse between the isolated stroke and the skipped notes made it feel more continuous to my hand. Both devices are sort of like Dumbbells or training wheels - ie devices to get you there faster, but understand if they're not for everybody:)

  • @TheBrewster13
    @TheBrewster13 Před 8 lety +2

    Which Oli Bernatchez tune is that? Cool vid btw :)

    • @brinkwerks
      @brinkwerks Před 10 měsíci

      my question too - followed the link to his channel, love the old session vids, but didn’t find this intro music. (gonna post this as its own comment too.)

  • @RecycleBin0
    @RecycleBin0 Před 5 lety +3

    what's a drums?

  • @idiazmusic
    @idiazmusic Před 8 lety +1

    what ride is that ??? :O

  • @graftontanner6363
    @graftontanner6363 Před 9 lety

    Hey man, what kind of Istanbul do you have there?

    • @RazeTheWeak
      @RazeTheWeak Před 9 lety

      Grafton Tanner looks like a Mel Lewis.

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 8 lety

      +Grafton Tanner RazeTheWeak called it;)

  • @Creeuser87
    @Creeuser87 Před 9 lety

    Great lesson man. But I gotta tell you, the transcription download doesn't work for me. It seems like the file is a picture of you instead of a PDF by accident.

    • @ns81
      @ns81 Před 9 lety

      How do you know that's an accident? ;);) JK I'll have a look right away!

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  Před 9 lety +1

      ***** This is fixed. Apologies for any inconvenience.

    • @Creeuser87
      @Creeuser87 Před 9 lety

      The 80/20 Drummer Thanks for your quick response and fixing it.

  • @ralphhumphrey445
    @ralphhumphrey445 Před 6 lety +5

    At 6:23 you use the word Moeller in conjunction with Gordy Knudsen's down-up method. I know Moeller as something different than what you are doing. Can you explain? Thanks.

    • @mnkrck
      @mnkrck Před 6 lety +3

      Gordy Knudsen has a series about his technique on his own channel here on youtube. He also talks about how to combine the moeller whiplash with the down-up motion a bit.

    • @aborigenas1
      @aborigenas1 Před 5 lety

      It’s very similar. My teacher call this a “down-up” technique, or “up and down”

  • @LovelyDiscipline
    @LovelyDiscipline Před 7 lety +4

    Someone PLEASE tell me the name of the song at 0:32?

    • @LovelyDiscipline
      @LovelyDiscipline Před 7 lety

      +The 80/20 Drummer I will pay you for this song man, please send it to me? I want to practice it in full

    • @babaroro5942
      @babaroro5942 Před 7 lety +1

      It was made by Oli Bernatchez, a greeaat French drummer. Go check what he did ! I think youbcan buy this music on his bandcamp :)

  • @rusamene
    @rusamene Před 8 lety +1

    some fast twitch Tony Williams shit:)

  • @javiergc431
    @javiergc431 Před 7 lety

    Nice video!!
    but, how about Gilmore's technique? looks really close to Tony i think...

  • @EloyTrujilloDUILawSF
    @EloyTrujilloDUILawSF Před 7 lety

    Nice 💩! Huge fan of these videos.

  • @jimramirez2670
    @jimramirez2670 Před 4 lety

    That intro was hot as fuck.

  • @jimbarx7088
    @jimbarx7088 Před 4 lety

    This is creepy,literally asked about it on a current video.Thanks!

  • @sunnibird
    @sunnibird Před 3 lety

    As a newer drummer I find this difficult to follow. No counting during the playing of the exercises, or only briefly, and the transcription only has 8th note snare hits written on the sheet. Unless you already understand what's being played you're not going to have an easy time figuring it out.

  • @josafatsong3342
    @josafatsong3342 Před 6 lety

    I think i found my bean playing drums!!!!!

  • @benslooking4coolstuff
    @benslooking4coolstuff Před 8 lety

    Maximum Synergyyyy!!!!!!!!!

  • @georgelumsden4484
    @georgelumsden4484 Před 4 lety +1

    10:18 thats what he's doing on freedom jazz dance (miles smiles) thats cool stuff thanks man!

  • @ipguyman108
    @ipguyman108 Před 5 lety

    cool, thanks mister..!

  • @Psycho9263
    @Psycho9263 Před 8 lety +3

    I'd like to see the way he does "Fred".

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai Před 2 lety

    🌸💙🌱😃

  • @dikbeats2720
    @dikbeats2720 Před 4 lety

    Nice ride cymbal.. Almost prefer it to my zildjian dark. Only 20'' tho

  • @bojangles6444
    @bojangles6444 Před 2 lety

    I dunno why but every stupid drum teacher I had as kid made me slam the hi hat. Louder than the ride. Now I know why i sounded bad and always got slowed down. Imagine being stuck in a small town with shitty drummers pre internet.

  • @idiazmusic
    @idiazmusic Před 8 lety

    what ride is that ??? 😱😱😱

  • @ratofacat
    @ratofacat Před 7 lety +17

    Been playing bop for fifty years (from slow lethargic tempos to blazingly fast) and I've never tried to over intellectualize it. I just play. And I urge all of you prospective boppers to do the same. Feel it, make the music better, and put your soul into it. We're all different. That's what makes great players. I promise.

    • @alexandrecolas-jeffery722
      @alexandrecolas-jeffery722 Před 7 lety +9

      I don't know man, what I see is that the greats did intellecualise, too. If Trane never understood and analysed what Bird did, he never would have been able to play his soul out like he did... What do you think? Just trying to have a nice discussion about learing methods, here!

    • @ratofacat
      @ratofacat Před 7 lety +1

      Maybe, maybe not. Think and do as you please. Most of the greats I've performed with did most of their intellectualizing in their sleep.

    • @midinerd
      @midinerd Před 7 lety +3

      "Less talking more drumming." It's an instructional video :)

    • @shiritzhaki5333
      @shiritzhaki5333 Před 7 lety +1

      ratofacat it's all about playing loud eventually. trust me. tony was very provocative and loud, as was Elvin,as was Bonham, as is vinnie... have control but be confident to get the sound out of the drums

    • @kingsweetfly7711
      @kingsweetfly7711 Před 6 lety +1

      If this were Tony himself instead of 80/20 drummer would you say the same thing ?

  • @dmguk9931
    @dmguk9931 Před 6 lety

    oh thats almost afrobeat!!..👍