START THE BIDDING! Legacy Pain's Reward Black Stompy. Exsanguinator Cavalry Bowmaster Sheoldred MTG

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  • čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
  • I play a Magic the Gathering Online Legacy league with Mono-Black Pain's Reward, a brew challenge from Patreon subscriber Ryan. I was tasked with building around the weird Saviors of Kamigawa rare that creates a life bidding war for the privilege of drawing 4 cards for 3 mana. That's a lot of cards for 3 mana! Then I had to figure out how to make sure I always win the bidding: Either have more life to bid with from cards like Exsanguinator Cavalry or make it bad for them to draw cards with Orcish Bowmasters and Sheoldred! Black stompy with major card advantage? Start the bidding! MTG
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    0:00 Intro
    0:37 Deck Tech
    4:40 Round 1
    14:03 Round 2
    32:02 Round 3
    53:59 Round 4
    1:07:25 Round 5
    1:26:03 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 107

  • @DarkX64
    @DarkX64 Před 5 měsíci +31

    It warms my heart to have seen Pain's Reward actually go off in a Legacy game

  • @music00soba
    @music00soba Před 5 měsíci +56

    god that 2 damage missed against lands was so brutal i was so sad

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +35

      Hey me too

    • @Darkstar-se6wc
      @Darkstar-se6wc Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bosh pack?

    • @85mcarnold
      @85mcarnold Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@BoshNRoll You live, you learn
      You love, you learn
      You cry, you learn
      You lose, you learn
      You bleed, you learn
      You scream, you learn

    • @music00soba
      @music00soba Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Darkstar-se6wc we be smoking

  • @ERGOPROXY.
    @ERGOPROXY. Před 5 měsíci +20

    Word soup stompy? I’m in!

    • @demiurge2501
      @demiurge2501 Před 5 měsíci

      Word soup would be such a good deck name

  • @GamiHQ
    @GamiHQ Před 5 měsíci +13

    I love that the game on the video is listed as "Bowmasters" lmao

  • @emerson685
    @emerson685 Před 5 měsíci +10

    This was one of my favorite decks you’ve played in a while! It made for really interactive games, despite having a bit off that ancient tomb/dark ritual/full send appearance on first glance! The lifegain really adds an typically unappreciated component to the deck, and the late game potential of agadeem’s awakening is really cool.
    It felt like all the games were competitive, and in another day could have easily pulled a positive record.
    Awesome deck! I’d be pumped to see it again!

  • @thebfunk5228
    @thebfunk5228 Před 5 měsíci +12

    That third game of the second match against lands when 1 missed bowmasters trigger costed you the game was a heartbreaker, great games

  • @Shuvinile
    @Shuvinile Před 5 měsíci +8

    og Kamigawa holds a special place in my heart.

  • @Fandwicksvhs
    @Fandwicksvhs Před 5 měsíci +3

    Man, I'm on semi-bed rest due to a minor foot injury right now. Had a bit of a rough day today, and my spouse said not to play magic as sometimes it's stressful for me when I lose. My mother told me to watch or listen to something calming, so I'm here listening to the most soothing and calming media I know. Thank you for your videos, they really provide an hour of Zen for me in this crazy world.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Happy to be of service 🫡

  • @lui2322
    @lui2322 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Steam vents is 0.8 TIX while volcanic island is +20 TIX

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oh good the world works.

  • @iyaoyascarson700
    @iyaoyascarson700 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Thanks for all the vids, keeping me sane during the work week!

  • @nicomillhouse
    @nicomillhouse Před 5 měsíci +2

    used to play pain's reward in modern burn before the canopy land cycle. love sub game cards

  • @TheBoatis
    @TheBoatis Před 5 měsíci +15

    I love Fate Unraveler, but Sheoldred has to be the worst thing to stand next to for comparison.

  • @gafdl6365
    @gafdl6365 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow! I used to play Pains Reward in Deaths Shadow shell! Never thought I’d see this! Thank you

  • @Crimmando
    @Crimmando Před 5 měsíci +2

    Wow, Brian this was seriously a riot. Thank you for embracing the challenge. I get that it’s jank, but man this feels a few tweaks away from being crazy fun with potential to actually win. All the best, always a pleasure.

  • @lava2istrue
    @lava2istrue Před 5 měsíci +4

    Heeeeeyyy! Dark Deal! I’ve been waiting for someone to shove that into a sheoldred black shell.

  • @spikescafe3940
    @spikescafe3940 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This deck was really sick, nice build.

  • @SanchoNil
    @SanchoNil Před 5 měsíci +1

    This was truly entertaining

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was not expecting the curtains when I clicked on a Legacy video. Almost makes me want to build a discard tribal around Turoch

  • @ulavala3798
    @ulavala3798 Před 5 měsíci +1

    In Duel Commander us Sheoldred players have been playing Pain's Reward in addition to Infernal Contract and Cruel Bargain for years :p it is some hot tech

  • @daltonmekis
    @daltonmekis Před 5 měsíci +1

    58:40 a spell will fizzle if it is a spell that requires targets and zero of those targets are legal upon resolution. Baleful Mastery is worded slightly weirdly since it says “an opponent draws a card” but that is a weird way to say “pick a player as this is resolving without actually targeting any players”.
    Example 1: Player 1 casts Kolaghan’s Command on modes “Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand” and “Target player discards a card” targeting Player 2. Player 2 responds with Veil of Summer. The discard mode will become illegal due to hexproof from black, but the return a creature mode is still legal so that part of the spell will resolve.
    Example 2: Player 1 casts Cryptic Command choosing modes “Return target permanent to its owner’s hand” targeting Player 2’s Storm Crow and “Draw a card”. Player 2 responds with Veil of Summer. The bounce mode is the ONLY targeting mode of Cryptic Command in this scenario and it will fizzle due to hexproof from blue, so the whole spell will fizzle and Player 1 will NOT draw a card

  • @DeSaxofoonVanPeter
    @DeSaxofoonVanPeter Před 5 měsíci +5

    A good demonstration of the significance of _Ancient Tomb Mana_ ™

  • @nealcrabtree3647
    @nealcrabtree3647 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thx for the content 🙏

  • @misty6348
    @misty6348 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I'm confused on why you're running 6 fetchs, is it just for the 1 of fatal push in the board? If it's really only for that I would think an alternative would be better over push and just keeping the fetchs as swamps.

  • @ecpracticesquad4674
    @ecpracticesquad4674 Před 5 měsíci +3

    The way round 2 ends... You had the miss on Sheoldred and the extra bow ping that would have won it...

  • @user-lh5fp7bf2c
    @user-lh5fp7bf2c Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love dark deal in legacy. So many mono black builds now for this amazing uncommon.

  • @fernandobanda5734
    @fernandobanda5734 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Delver losing to lifelink is actually hilarious.

  • @mindlessfool42
    @mindlessfool42 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Even though they go negative, I always love these janky black decks. Pain’s Reward!!!

  • @lanychabot-laroche135
    @lanychabot-laroche135 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You got lot of fair matchups where all the mana acceleration was fairly bad.

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Wait a minute, this feels like black Death & Taxes in spirit
    A deck composed almost entirely of small annoying hatebears, but instead of taxing mana they tax life

  • @MaeseEidos
    @MaeseEidos Před 5 měsíci +1

    Well no, I was not expecting to see a legacy deck with a HAG today but I'm damn glad I was wrong.

  • @gewinner5379
    @gewinner5379 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why is youtube telling me the game played in the video is "Bowmasters" from 2016? I guess because that word is in the title :)

  • @calebmartin1054
    @calebmartin1054 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Round 2 was such a heartbreaker ;-;

  • @Syaska
    @Syaska Před 5 měsíci +3

    Throw in Kaerveks spite to just dome them out

  • @Reeyo711
    @Reeyo711 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I feel like Bump in the Night would fit well in here

  • @dashvash5440
    @dashvash5440 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Deck seems fairly promising, a couple tweaks, and some practice is imagine it goes even better.
    It'd be cool to revisit decks with a bit of promise.

  • @Rafael-qk9jv
    @Rafael-qk9jv Před 5 měsíci +1

    All those blood tokens had me thinking of Urza's saga.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It was in an early build but the black requirement is already tough with Ancient Tomb.

    • @Rafael-qk9jv
      @Rafael-qk9jv Před 5 měsíci

      @@BoshNRoll Makes sense. Someone smart once told me it’s not a free inclusion

  • @jeffbriem
    @jeffbriem Před 5 měsíci +1

    The deck seemed fine. The pilot seemed fine. Luck seemed suspect.

  • @callumvlex7059
    @callumvlex7059 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I always wonder why decks like this don't play Sign in Blood, it can be 6 damage with a Sheoldred, or draw you towards gas when you need it.

  • @42sporks5
    @42sporks5 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This deck has phil written all over it lol

  • @andrewcvety
    @andrewcvety Před 5 měsíci +1

    last card karakas🤣🤣🤣 yup

  • @Fandwicksvhs
    @Fandwicksvhs Před 5 měsíci +1

    So, if we want to purchase modo premium, like the death and taxes opponent, where do we inquire?

  • @juanchetumare
    @juanchetumare Před 5 měsíci +1

    Maybe I missed it, but did you comment about cracking Dauthi for yorion in last game of round 4? What else was in the void?

  • @Th3R3dM4g3
    @Th3R3dM4g3 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love how legacy creatures are either gigantic monsters or kinda dinky so if you throw kind of a medium size chonker in there delver's like 4/5 lifelink?! What am I supposed to do about that?!?!

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi Před 5 měsíci +2

    Exsanguinator Cavalry is so dang sweet that it makes me wonder if you could slip in another knight or two. There has to be to be some other Knight that'd fit into a stompy shell, right?

    • @lugvantrug5967
      @lugvantrug5967 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I kinda wanna see it with Inti, Seneschal of the sun.
      He is a Knight, Turns the Blood into Card advantage and makes Cavalry more likely to hit

  • @rob3681
    @rob3681 Před 5 měsíci +1

    the lack of chains in this deck is depressing.

  • @michaeldyrud7077
    @michaeldyrud7077 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Game two of 8 mulch, I think you did miss a potential look at Baleful Mastery. Cavalry has menace, so you’d get to hit and get one more look off the blood token to still dig to mastery.

    • @Hyonam
      @Hyonam Před 5 měsíci

      was thinking the same he'd still had a draw step!

    • @AaronRotenberg
      @AaronRotenberg Před 5 měsíci +5

      Bosh wouldn't get to hit to get the Blood token, the opponent would just Maze the Cavalry before damage.

    • @michaeldyrud7077
      @michaeldyrud7077 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@AaronRotenbergthanks! That’s what I was missing

  • @elijahlyons8164
    @elijahlyons8164 Před 5 měsíci +1

    spicy 2B brew

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof Před 5 měsíci +1

    Trinisphere always hurts you no matter which side it's on.

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 Před 5 měsíci +1

    7:29 You mean, "As they say, THREE-ball"?

  • @Dracomandriuthus
    @Dracomandriuthus Před 5 měsíci +1

    No lie, if you had the option to play 5x pains reward, 5x pains reward would be really good here

  • @Waltinator72
    @Waltinator72 Před 5 měsíci

    You had the lands game win. You could have played a Sheoldred. He draws a card at beginning of the turn and takes 2 damage before he could attack. You had it.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci

      What’s your plan for the Karakas that had been bouncing Sheoldred in the upkeep to avoid taking damage for the entire game up to that point?

    • @Waltinator72
      @Waltinator72 Před 5 měsíci

      Ah, thanks I knew I missed something there.Thanks for the quick response, huge fan. I mean, hopefully he misses it on upkeep?@@BoshNRoll

  • @reves432
    @reves432 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Yeah I don't think playing all those fetches for just one fatal push in the board is really worth it. They are probably there from some previous build of the deck that splashed a color but have been forgotten?

  • @dalemackenzie4320
    @dalemackenzie4320 Před 5 měsíci +2

    31:30 did i miss something or do you not just kill with sheoldred draw trigger if you cast him?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci

      They have Karakas, they’ve been bouncing Sheoldred in their upkeep all game.

  • @user-fk3du7pb3n
    @user-fk3du7pb3n Před 5 měsíci

    Storm fetched in the second game cause of potential Opposition Agent

  • @MadAboutVideoGames
    @MadAboutVideoGames Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm confused by game one.
    After the will the opponent can petal petal ritual but if they beseech they don't have an artifact to sacrifice. Did I miss something?

  • @googleplusisterrible4837
    @googleplusisterrible4837 Před 5 měsíci +1

    3 ball half the deck costs 2. Legacy.

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk Před 5 měsíci +1

    You cast Pain's Reward a lot of times, and only once did you pay more than a trivial amount of life.

  • @TheForbiddenDance
    @TheForbiddenDance Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can you explain why tauroch is a bad sideboard choice vs lands please?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      They’re not a white deck, they don’t usually hold cards in their hand for a long game, they have life from the loam to get back things I would discard, and they have karakas and maze of ith to blank it in combat. Just doesn’t do anything useful.

    • @TheForbiddenDance
      @TheForbiddenDance Před 5 měsíci

      @@BoshNRoll thank you. I was curious if the random discard was useful to disrupt their play patterns. I've never played legacy, just watch your stuff so I wasn't sure

  • @IeuroI
    @IeuroI Před 5 měsíci +1

    is there any disadvantage to have 7 swamp 1 urborg instead of the 8 swamp?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Wasteland, Blood Moon, Back to Basics etc. Might still be worth 1 to take the pain out of ancient tomb sometimes.

    • @IeuroI
      @IeuroI Před 5 měsíci

      @@BoshNRoll, i was thinkin that too. plus, the land effects while debilitating, would hit your other lands anyway & urborg becoming a mountain or untapable is a mild inconvenience comparee to the convenience it would provide freeing up your mana for black sources.
      i still agree with you that fate unraveller is still better underworld due to the 3 coloursless one black, but an urborg makes things a little more convenient.
      also, if the opponent is willing to blow their own lands up to get your urborg, the set back sets them bqck more than you - urborg almost feels like a decoy land for them to attack

  • @mrhjorgensen
    @mrhjorgensen Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why Powder Keg over Racket Bomb?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Powder Keg hits artifact lands

  • @music00soba
    @music00soba Před 5 měsíci +2

    bosh pack smoke em if you got em

  • @bradleytinney6969
    @bradleytinney6969 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brian, are you going to Magic Fest Chicago?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yup! I have a creator booth Friday morning and a meet and greet with 3 for 1 Saturday morning.

    • @bradleytinney6969
      @bradleytinney6969 Před 5 měsíci

      @BoshNRoll Are you playing in the legacy event Saturday?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yup! @@bradleytinney6969

  • @aronshimada7327
    @aronshimada7327 Před 5 měsíci +1

    No Urborg?

  • @XboxTheBeatboxer
    @XboxTheBeatboxer Před 5 měsíci +1

    re: the deck tech - This is also how you make cards like Browbeat or Vexing Devil "good". If you play Vexing Devil, then your opponent gets the choice, and your four-of unique card can be played around. But Vexing Devil + 4x Noxious Revival in an aggressive shell pressures the opponent. From experience, the opponent takes the first two Vexing Devil hits. But once they get to 12 life there's a psychology shift. They let it live and try to remove it on board. So if you Vines of Vastwood or Noxious Revival it back over and over in addition to Lightning Bolt, etc. there are not more "good for the opponent" decisions to be made. In other words, put it in a RUG tempo shell.

  • @adamm4942
    @adamm4942 Před 5 měsíci +1

    hey brian I know legacy is bowmaster and bowmaster is legacy to some degree, but I believe the game you are playing is not bowmasters.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah CZcams has decided otherwise I guess

  • @Mirrim9999
    @Mirrim9999 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Round 2, last game, Couldn't you cast Sheoldred then Pain's Reward and lose the bidding to win?

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Před 5 měsíci

      You start the bid and your opponent has to top it first. They can always choose to never draw.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +4

      I don't think you can lose the bidding. I start at 0, opp realizes they're dead to Sheoldred and just doesn't bid 1.

    • @Mirrim9999
      @Mirrim9999 Před 5 měsíci

      @@BoshNRoll makes sense

  • @Tyrisalthan
    @Tyrisalthan Před 5 měsíci +2

    Why this deck uses fetches? All they could get is swamps but they cost you life, in a deck where you having more life means you win bets. Wouldn't just swamps be stricktly better in this? Or there should be something besides swamps that those fetches could get to give them a reason to be in the deck.
    I think there was at least couple of games where it was up to a life point or two who wins that game. So the fetches literally lost those games for you.

  • @edde2429
    @edde2429 Před 5 měsíci +2

    How dare you insult Kamigawa 😭

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Fun flavor, good draft format, Saviors is still one of the worst sets of all time. Is what it is.

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This deck is just silly

  • @Ulubai
    @Ulubai Před 5 měsíci +3

    Not sure ive ever heard you that salty. But that d&t guy thrives on salt so its warrented.

  • @robertbrinker1769
    @robertbrinker1769 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'm not posting a copypasta in someone else's chat but you can all post it here

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Idk why mono black decks have just given up on controlling the opps mana and just get owned by kraxk , hash tag bring back stripping